I have had the exact same experience over the last two days. I was 1663 and ive dropped almost a hundred points due to being matched with low rank players. I have to win two for ever loss.
The loss and gain of rating solely based on your personal rating vs the Average rating of the opposing team.
if it is true, you are teamed with low rating people and your team gets dominated because overall out skilled and yet you are still losing more then 15 points each match, seems wrong to me
I don’t disagree with the idea of taking the entire team’s average into account when determining how many points are gained or lost. But I can’t say I know how they do it one way or another.
I will say one thing though, be careful just assuming your losses are due to being matched with lower ranked players. Yes, some might be. But why assume its only your team? Who is to say your wins haven’t been against teams with lower ranked players? Whose to say your losses where you have a low skill player the enemy team doesn’t also and they just did a better job hiding that fact?
Arrogant to assume your successes are due to your own prowess but your losses are due to something outside your control.
My success is due to working with team who know what to do vs losing with team with no sense of how to win or work together.
Suggestion: If your team doesn’t know what tactics to do to handle the match maybe try to explain using reasonable language. Be a leader. And early in the match when there is still a chance to turn things around.
And maybe your success is due to your enemy being a team with no sense of how to win or work together and your losses are due to an enemy team that know what to do. That’s my point. Always assuming your wins are entirely due to your efforts or your teams is arrogant. Just as often as you are getting garbage teammates your opponents are likely as well.
Lord knows when I see the enemy trickling into mid one at a time vs 3 of us I don’t think my win is because I am superman.
All your doing is discrediting my ability as a player. I know what good players look like and bad players. No amount of direction help if your team doesnt know how to rotate or what points to ignore, or simply not looking at their map
Not trying to discredit your play itself. Although I do get tired of the mentality that anything good is because you did good and anything bad is because somehow the world has it out for you. Do you not see how that’s a little egotistical?
But you are wrong about giving direction not helping. If you can do it in a constructive way it should help more often than not. No, it won’t make that thief suddenly start winning his 1v1s or that squishy guard stop exploding at mid. But it might help if you suggest the thief runs away when he sees someone bunkering on the point. He might think he is helping by occupying the enemy (I’ve seen people say this) when he is actually just feeding them.
I am not saying that trying to give direction will suddenly start winning every match. But 90% of the matches I play the most communication you see is “thief home rest mid” at the beginning of a match and then flame and toxicity if the game goes poorly. In 150+ matches this season I cannot think of a single time where someone has suggested something without having to add something insulting to it. Most of the time its just silence.
I know how to play the game, I know its a team game, I know if we are losing its more likely due to 1 or 2 players no doing their part vs Im the only good one. I dont have time to teach players how to play in the middle of the game. I can ping the map, and type simple instruction, but it wont turn bad players good. Its not fair for me to have to lose due to their inexperience with the game, and when I do win to get only half the points. So that even if I were to maintain a positive winning ratio I would still be losing points. Do you see why this is wrong? And on the flip side its not fair for a low rank team to match with higher players and get stomped, its not fun. This is due to the lack of higher level players. I shouldn’t tank 150 points in a row because the game doesn’t have enough players my rank to match me with. If I am the high rank player on my team I jack up the average on my team, meaning the rest has to be lower to compensate. And if we are paired against a team with players relatively the same rank that are higher than whats on my team, we are at a disadvantage. Any high rank player in this position can only influence where they are on the map, can only give so much direction mid fight. You have to put your faith in your team to know what to do, thats why its a team game. And when they dont know what to do, or are not listening, or simply have not learned to read their map youll lose.
This makes playing ranked pointless. Twice this season I have had huge drops in rank. 1622-1465 and 1672-1512. This should not happen if matching for both teams is relatively even. Especially if I have maintained a positive win rate, which I still have even though im at the bottom of another tank.
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