Guild Wars 2

Irenio talked the talk but didn’t walk the walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2ZHhJQn0B8#t=2356).

Lazy doesn’t even cover the incompetence and disdain that Anet shows for the Ranger class. Maybe they will finally see the light when the playercount is tanking so hard that they have to fear for their paycheck. What a shambles.

Just no, giving them more money with all these flaws and broken promises (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2ZHhJQn0B8#t=2356) is about the worst thing I could do.

I think I feel much more robbed in the way that other Elites had multiple beta weekends for testing while the Druid elite is still imo at the Anet throws kitten at the wall and sees what sticks phase. It also doesn’t help that virtually nothing was fixed with the Rangers core abilities.

TL:DR I do’t feel robbed in the sense that we got Druid, it’s more in the way how they did it, kitten.

bloodpyrope.8630:

Frankly, Anet did no more or less than exactly what they promised. They promised to look into changing shouts during the druid release and they did exactly just that. And only that.

The last official word we had from them regarding changes were “In the future, we’ll continue to explore ways to improve on the ranger’s ties to both their pets and nature. We’re still looking at the druid’s viability in group scenarios and will continue to monitor its overall effectiveness, making changes where necessary.”

Anet is still dropping the ball when it comes to ranger with this glacial speed, we are still far away from being fixed and the prospect that “hey, we couldn’t fix it, maybe better luck in 3 months” is absolutely baffeling. That is a very far cry of what has been said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2ZHhJQn0B8#t=2356) and basically it is not good enough.

I heard these promises before from Irenio and I simply do not believe that Anet has the will to do the class justice. With their plate so full of issues to fix the ususal suspects will fall of the board to be ignored, like it has been years ago.

Simply put, stick those promises where the sun doesn’t shine because I am very much done with all words and no action.

No, for several reasons:

-Arenanet has plenty on its plate to fix already and has a history to not give a crap about rangers.
-All the promises Irenio made in the Druid reveal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2ZHhJQn0B8#t=2356) have been worse then hollow, they simply are not exsistent. The chance of Rangers getting a new designer that like the Chrono and Reaper designer is willing to go the extra mile is non existant.
-Arenanet has no idea/concept what to do with the ranger/druid as evidenced with all the nerfs (throw kitten against the wall and see what sticks is a horrible way of designing a spec).

Simply said the game is for me on life support with only logging in for the daily chest. And I am not even sure why I do that since seeing the big picture of how many things were screwed up in HOT…

Have to hand it to Arenanet tho, I haven’t felt this fooling for a very very long time in placing my trust into something and seeing it going kittens up so bad and hard.

Swagger.1459:

I’m fully aware of all things.

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

I am at a loss for words that we have to wait till end of Januari to finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. Incoming exodus.

Props to the art team etc (HoT looks really great) but man did you kitten up almost everything else. Shambles.

The class is as healthy as the effort put in by Anet to fix it, so yea it’s 6 feet under.

Thanks again Irenio!

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

The ranger class is in better spot now than what it ever was since the beginning of the game 3 years ago. MUCH better.

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I am pretty sure this will get deleted, but enough is enough. After the bullkitten Irenio spewed at the Twitch Druid reveal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2ZHhJQn0B8#t=2356 to refresh your memory) and seeing things only get worse and worse up till the point that using healing gear on a Druid to heal is counter productive (https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3tjhj7/the_druid_change_is_ridiculous_and/) and too many words are already spilled in lamentation of the Ranger spec.

Don’t talk the talk if you cannot walk the walk, and actions speak louder then words, and I think noone can disagree with the notion that Irenio does not give a toss about the Ranger/Druid profession, only ready to apply kneejerk nerfs to problems that could get a way more elegant fix that would not again make the Ranger/Druid worse. I am most likely not the only one that whenever ‘a new build is available’ is wondering what is screwed up now.

The solution is clear imo, stop throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks and get someone on board that really want `to bring rangers/druids more in line with the other professions’ to use an Irenio quote. A fresh objective look is needed, and tbh it needs to happen sooner then later since we are about to throw in the towel and say kitten it.

Already talking about the next elite spec when the Druid one is basically broken and the basic Ranger profession is so flawed it is the laughing stock of GW2? A tad too soon methinks /s

Also talking about the next elite spec with Irenio in charge is ludicrous. I have to hand it to Irenio, never before has someone made me regret buying a game, I would love to get my money back.

These so called fixes really scream out the fact that Anet/Irenio have no idea what to do with druid. Shelving my druid untill we actually see positive changes instead of knee jerk nerfing and empty promises made by Irenio… just effing delete the class if you really cannot be bothered.

Tragic Positive.9356:

Can you prove it otherwise?
I’m afraid you couldn’t.

I can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2ZHhJQn0B8#t=2356

From the devs themselves.

Incredible how people can claim Druid/ranger is fine, the mind boggles. Even the devs said that there were alot of work to do. Slamming down the “learn to play” card is simply kittened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2ZHhJQn0B8#t=2356

TheydonBois.9208:

Nothing? Not one mention of either class, its getting just a little too much to handle at the moment..

It is quite clear they do not have one single clue what to do with Druid (with GW not having a hard trinity and extreme clunky mechanics as bonus) and well, the previous 3 years they had no urge to do fix anything with Ranger, so I would stop hoping and do something else. Hoping for Anet to wake up and do something finally is futile. All we get is lies from Irenio that he is on the ball…

neville.3420:

As the title states, the druid is two BWE’s behind in terms of polish and balance.

The coming time may be turbulent and yes the nerfs have really sucked, but we need to be patient. Being demanding and condescending to the developers, especially Irenio, does nothing but make us as a community look bad.

Give it a few weeks.

Calm down.

Sorry, nothing personal but we have been waiting for 3 years and all this time we have been the laughing stock of this game. I bought HoT on the prospect that Ranger would actually get some quality time with fixes for the crap that has been lingering for so long but guess who got suckered in with empty promises from Irenio.
Waiting for Irenio to screw up Ranger/Druid even more is not an option for me anymore, if a game cannot provide me fun but is aggrevating like GW2 is now, it is time to throw the towel into the ring and give this whole mess a big middle finger and do something more entertaining.

Again, nothing personal to the OP, but kitten waiting. Enough is enough.

The harshness of this nerf borders on the idiotic, and that is saying it nice.

edit, screw this. Its kittened. Good job Irenio!

Knighthonor.4061:

I dont really care anymore at this rate.

the way the developers gated Ranger pets was stupid. and then the nerf to Staff was also stupid, and then the OOC issue was stupid.

I dont even feel like continuing but you get the point.

Pretty much the same here. I had a feeling that only one BWE weekend would bite us in the kitten classwise but I never imagined it would be such an effing mess, not even counting in the Ranger pile ‘o’ problems we had for such a long time. It just makes me kittened to recount the Twitch stream where they promised to fix and balance while all that is happening is making things even worse.

I really feel like I need a break from all this bullkitten, so yea well done devs, this must set a new record for me to be totally turned off this shenanigans so fast. 7 days, GG.

Magnificient is the last word I would use to classify HoT thanks to all the `care` Anet has poured into the Ranger/Druid class. More like utterly disappointing. I cannot remember any expansion of an MMO turning me off so fast. Might want to take a peek at the ranger forum to sober up a bit.

No.

Pvp is not to blame, lack of care/knowledge/balls is what has put the ranger class in this mess. All those promises, what a load of bullkitten.

I have to fight the urge to slap some well deserved curses here since this is getting utterly stupid with all the effing nerfs. Congrats devs, due to all this ‘care’ you took in the class I so stupidly main and have put alot of gold and cash into it I feel just utterly betrayed and sick. What an effing idiot I am for actually believing that the whole Druid reveal scam was actually the start of Anet fixing ranger problems and make druid viable. And what an idiot I was for actually buying HoT. No more, I am done.

We are very friggin far from a fixed Ranger so please bottle the misplaced enthousiasm untill we see the Ranger class as something else then a joke. Where are the fixes for rangers that were mentioned in the same stream where druid was unveiled?

Rhapsedy.1569:

But I think HOT is my breaking point. We are still sub par damage dealers and now we are sub par healers.

Quoted for truth and sadly very similar to how I feel about the current situation with Druids. Sad part is that I don’t see it being improved either even after promises.

I can honestly say that my optimism about Ranger hass sunk to an all-time low now. It is depressing to not only have the huge list of problems with Rangers in general that barely has been touched (although was promised on the stream) but now also the problems with Druid, wich is by itself already a niche. How they will be able to make Druid wanted for content when the healing is so clunky. Also with fractal 100 being cleared without dedicated healer the last hope is raids. All this just makes me depressed and stop with GW2 because if (and that is a big if) Anet is finally bothered to do something about it it still will take many many months.

Meh.

Long live google cache:

From TTH:

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Persistent Worlds: Where is the Profession Developer Engagement?
In this daily outlet, Lewis chooses one topic for discussion from Guild Wars 2. Today’s: There’s so little engagement between the profession developers at ArenaNet and the community that I often wonder if they even care about the bugs and mountain of poor skills. What are your thoughts?

There’s a brilliant satirical thread over on the official Guild Wars 2 forums that details one players “impressions” of the druid, when he is in fact referring to all the flaws in the ranger. Although the post was locked by ArenaNet (without any acknowledgement) there’s continued discussion about it over on Reddit.

What really caught my eye, however, was a comment made by Kitamu. In it he links all the interaction rangers have had with ArenaNet over the past year. None of the interactions talk about broken skills or skills that are outright terrible, and none of them really discuss the direction of the ranger or where ArenaNet want the base profession to be.

I know that a lot of time has been spent by the developers creating the druid, but I don’t really find that an acceptable excuse at this moment in time. If we take one small thing, such as pet names being wiped when you swap them, it’s a bug that has been in the game from when I first played in 2011. How, four years on, has it still not been fixed? How are Spirits still absolutely garbage when a warrior has brilliant Banners? How are the majority of Shouts still terrible? (has anyone ever used Search and Rescue?) and why is there no animation on Lick Wounds?

The problem is that much of these issues aren’t even subjective: they’re huge problems and so obvious that I’m often amazed that A) ArenaNet have never acknowledged them (not to my knowledge) and Haven’t in the space of 3 years even made any attempt to rectify them. For a team of hundreds, how can it be that they do not have the capacity to sit down and say “Hey, you know what, let’s fixed the name bug on ranger pets this week.” or “Oh god, spirits are absolutely garbage. Their active is useless, they’re static and also die super easy in Fractal’s. Shall we spend some time fixing them for the next patch and perhaps we could bring them in line with warrior banners?” Better yet, “I am sick to death of my pet dying in every single boss encounter. Can we address this at last?”

I appreciate changes have to go through testing but let’s not pretend it takes a long time to chat to players on a forum. Just popping in to say hello, acknowledge issues or even join a discussion should be part of every designers job. Leaving players in the dark is not only unfair, but it’s frustrating and results in thread after thread of issues being raised. If a developer took the time to regularly engage with the community, outside of POI, threads would naturally be more positive (players would know they’re being listened to) and might actually result in some worthwhile suggestions.

Although I’ve mentioned the ranger a lot here, this ‘issue’ isn’t even unique to them. Outside of the elite specializations, developer engagement with players is absolutely terrible and at times, inexcusable. As one example, when the last appearance of an ArenaNet developer is on page 20 and they aren’t even addressing a specific issue, something is seriously wrong with communication.

Several months ago I actually reached out to ArenaNet to setup a “Profession Health Check”. Every month I intended to email them a list of questions for each profession that were the main concerns, as chosen by the community. The idea being that it would improve discussion, pinpoint specific issues and allow a controlled dialogue between players and developers. The response? A great idea but no thank you – we’re too busy with Heart of Thorns. That’s absolutely fine because I fully understand that they are, but the problem is, when is any developer ever ‘not too busy’? Putting time aside to engage with your player base should be a priority much more than it currently is. "

Source:http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5UE_TlnfUfcJ:www.tentonhammer.com/columns/persistent-worlds/persistent-worlds-where-profession-developer-engagement+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

I can honestly say the TTH article nails it. That it was removed really gives me the feeling that not buying HOT yet wasn’t such a bad idea.

The ‘no grind’ mantra is in the same garbage can where Anet tossed in the Ranger class. How the hell can Anet screw up so much lately is a mystery to me.

Well my hope for a functional Ranger class is disappearing in an alarming fast rate now. Maybe it is time for a break.

Sorry to say but this is one of the worst events I have ever experienced in any MMO. Anet is dropping the ball an awfull lot lately.

natsos.3692:

And come on, be serious, reseting the achievments is fair, banning people for “cheating” a mini game that will not even cause a significant impact on the game is pretty unfair.

Banning for exploiting an unintended mechanic and degrading/ruining other users their experience is not only fair, but the only solution.

I sincerely hope there will be consequences for all those exploiters… What should be a fun event (wich it is without those who have to resort to regen food) is being totally ruined at this moment and to be frank I am not pleased to say the least.