Elite skills suffer from a different set of problems. The majority of them do not synergize with or enhance your “goal” in what you do. 4 professions have 2 out of 3 elite skills that change your skill bar entirely. Elite skills that add utility in this way are definately cool, but this is way, way overdone. Most of the time it feels as though you’ve built your character for some specific purpose plotting out your stats/gear/skill combos, and then your biggest baddest move has very little to do with it. It almost feels like getting inside of a vehicle in WoW. PS: Why no elite skill capping/more elite skills? Exploring the world and pushing progression to snag that next elite skill to play around with was super ultra mega fun.
You are playing Guild Wars 2 expecting it to be Guild Wars 1.
In GW1, elite skills were usually the core of a build. The rest of the build would be built around the elite, if not directly linked to it at least taking it in consideration. In GW2, this has been changed so the weapon skills are the core of a build. It’s as expected, then, that the elite skills would become significantly less important, and lose most of their synergism with the rest of the skill bar.
In the context of GW2, this isn’t a bad thing. Elite skills have become more like unique resources to be used sporadically and less the powerful, almost always available skills they were in GW1, so it’s only to be expected that they would be seem as less important in the game.
“I think that players are starting to mature past the point of wanting to be on that
treadmill, of being in that obvious pattern of every time I catch up you are going to
put another carrot in front of me” – Mike O’Brien right before Ascended weapons
On another note, none of them feel special via story. I don’t feel like a Guardian. I just feel like a common soldier. My class has no depth. Where is my super cool Guardian’s Guild of Guardians who practice the Guardian ways? Like the Paladin order in WoW? I feel like just another person with abilities that feel different. I don’t feel apart of anything..
Well what did WoW paladin differ from a common soldier? Also how is Guardian like a common soldier last time i looked a soldier ideally would not use any type of magic and would just use its weapons to preform the job of a soldier.
You want to feel different from other classes or do you want to feel different from other ppl playing the same class? If the 1st it is very different then other classes in GW2 Guardian is one of the more uniquest classes in the game its nearly a specialized class. If the 2ed that just the truth of playing a video game there is no different from other ppl playing the game.
I don’t disagree with the gist of what you’re saying. But GW1’s PvP actually was at a sort of E-Sport level. Especially early on in the games life when they had a lot of tournaments going on, and GvG remained pretty E-sporty throughout the games life. PvP just died down a lot as the game got older and what we were left with was a whole bunch of people playing RA.
The thing is E-sport where there when GW1 was out and the best that came from pvp in GW1 during the time where in house torments. Even smash brother N64 (cant for the life of me remember the full name) had a major game for ppl to play vs each other and to this day ppl still play it as that level of competition. Its truth for other e-sport level games at that time that still hold out to this day. That was the problem with GW1 pvp it was fun in the moment but it had no true staying power. GW2 is Anet try at making a true e-sport level game.
Main : Jski Imaginary ELE (Necromancer)
Guild : OBEY (The Legacy) I call it Obay , TLC (WvW) , UNIV (other)
Server : FA
I havent heard of that, but it would not suprise me. If they did that it could end up becoming like a real Lions Arch military academy too.
I imagine the charr living outside legion territory mostly raise their kids themselves, but teach them a more worldly view than the fahrars do. They teach them of their native culture, about the legions, charr history, charr culture... basically all the stuff they would learn in the fahrar. But it gets mixed in with a bit of education and values from other cultures. Enough charr knowledge to not make them look incredibly out of place if they found themselves in black citadel one day, but with more knowledge of the ways of life outside of charr land than traditional fahrar cubs.
Kind of like immigrants into the U.S. or some other country. A child born in America to Korean parents for example probably knows a hell of a lot more about Korea than the average American child from their parents alone, but they also know what they need to know to live in America.
I don’t think it’s a contradiction, but I do wonder if it’s ever difficult for charr outside Ascalon. Some of them seem to be glad to be away from the Legions and probably don’t want their kids to go into a fahrar, but I can imagine others feeling torn between staying where they are with the life they’ve established and moving ‘back home’ so their kids can have a traditional upbringing.
Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).
I don’t see any contradiction between given lore and the in-game encounters we have… in any culture, not every individual/family fits into the cultural norms & trends.
I don’t think the fiction perfectly lines up with what’s presented in game. In particular the fiction seems to imply that cubs have little contact with their parents, but that doesn’t always seem to be the case.
Well, as far as I know the fiction doesn’t say that it’s ALWAYS the case. There could be exceptions, and if someone lives outside of Charr lands then even if he wanted to rise his cub in a fahrar there just could be none around.
Not to mention that (as others said) if a Charr leaves his homelands he probably doesn’t want to follow the Charr family lifestyle anyway.
The cubs raised the traditional way don’t have much contact with their parents from what I’ve seen.
I’ve actually found the amount of contact “traditionally raised cubs” that is suppose to go on between cub and parent a bit confusing, in particular given the cub spends more time with their mother than father, I find it strange that the personal story for the charr is so heavily focused on their sire. I’m not even sure the character’s mother is brought up at all.
My impression is that even though cubs aren’t raised by their parents who they are is still important because they’re expected to take after them to some extent. So when they’re growing up in the fahrar they’re told about their parents and told they have to either live up to their standards or prove they’re not the same (depending on who their parents are).
In the case of our characters I assume it’s just that the father is more exceptional than the mother so he is the one who stood out as an example to either follow or avoid. Or the one who’s exploits happen to have an impact during the chunk of their life we see.
My norn and human characters haven’t had their parents mentioned either (I picked the dead sister option on my human) so I think we’re supposed to assume it just doesn’t come up during the course of the game rather than anyone deliberately not talking about it. (Sylvari obviously only have one parent – the Pale Tree – who does play a big part in their story, and I haven’t played an asura much yet.)
Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).
Thanks for your input guys. I suspect that the case is that Charr who live in Lion’s Arch, but more generally just outside of the legion controlled areas, have the choice to raise their kids differently and more often then not, do. There might be ways for these “outside” Charrs to join a legion at some point in time but that is assuming they even want to. I imagine the cubs of the, for example, the Charr commander of Claw Island (assuming he had cubs) would be more keen to join the Lion Guard then the Legions. Who knows!
Although, from what I have seen, Charr cubs growing-up outside of Fahrar still seem to have the concept of a “warband/Fahrar” but happy to have it made-up of their friends regardless of what race their friends are. So maybe Leyha will grow-up to form a warband with her human best friend. I would like to see that!
My brain is shagging under the weight of changes… having six characters was not a good idea!
Also, probably after hearing tales of the old ways and of fahrar, they might form one fo their own with other Lion’s Arch cubs, essentially a street gang.
Give it a generation or so and Lion’s Arch will see gangster Charr prowling it’s streets.
I’m thinking that if some charr live outside of Black Citadel (or even outside Ascalon and the lands ruled by the charr) then they tend to give up some of their “traditions”. I guess living in LA is just different – remember that it’s a city of pirates, marauders, anarchists and so on. Stands to reason the charr there wouldn’t care for the traditional “grooming” of their children.
I need something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
I am suffering from a bit of confusion regarding Charr cubs. Supposedly, and I am quoting from the wiki here, “As soon a cub is weaned (at around one year of age) they enter a fahrar of one of their parents’ legion. The fahrar is the cubs’ first warband and they are trained as a military unit under supervision of an adult and are considered an adult when the warband no longer needs supervision.”
If you are in the Black Citadel, you see this clearly. Cubs are with Fahrar and doing stuff with their Fahrar. However, Lion’s Arch seems to have atleast two cubs, one who teams-up with a Asura child and a human child to give you the background on Destiny’s Edge and another Princess Leyha (behind bank) who are clearly old enough to be in Fahrar but are not. Leyha also talks about her “parents” – indicating that she lives with her parent. There is also the Charr orphan in the Shiverpeaks but we don’t know exactly how young he was when his parents and those of his Norn friend got killed and he made his way to the Shiverpeaks with his friend and joined the orphan homestead run by a Sylvari.
Now I am perfectly happy to assume that Charr in Lion’s Arch don’t send their kids away and live very differently then Charr in the Black Citadel but Leyha also talks about joining the Ash Legion. So what’s the deal? Do the Legions even take older Charr from outside the Charr areas who didn’t grow-up in Fahrars etc? Or is Leyha just dreaming about that as well and she has about as much chance of joining the Ash Legion as her human friend?
My brain is shagging under the weight of changes… having six characters was not a good idea!
There is a very serious problem with Lion’s Arch, and that problem is that there are no Cubs in the city(I am aware of the one that appears with the personal story quest around level 30 that brags about Rytlock brimstone.) Being a pro Cub person I feel that this is a big deal. Cubs improve the area overall so adding some cubs to Lion’s Arch is something that needs to be done.
You know I have always thought this and just have to say it. Well done Anet. This is my 3rd MMO after Warhammer and SWTOR – and as a non-subscription based MMO the WvW and sPvP (I don’t PvE in MMOs really) as well as the regular updates and seasonal themes are outstanding in comparison to these other big MMOs I played. I don’t know how you do it Anet however keep doing it. How the sub based mmo’s I played (I love WAR btw because I loved the books – although now it just looks clunky and kinda lowbrow seeing as Class balance and gear was always outta whack) managed to not provide viable WvW and great and relatively balanced PvP from the get go like you, I don’t know. Well I do but that doesn’t matter. Great work.
Crying/shedding tears is an emotional response, that, according to some articles, is a way to show others that we’re in a need of help and support. But there’s also the biological aspect of being able to shed tears, which humans obviously have, but cats don’t. And even though I agree with you, Dustfinger, that they’re ‘cat-like’ and not ‘giant cats’, they still have a feline head.
With actual tears, I’ve no idea. So far as I know we’re not even sure why humans do it, if there’s any reason at all. Given the fur though I doubt it would be so obvious with charr, rather than streaks of tears down their faces they might look like they’d some sort of eye infection or allergy…
My thief originally choose snow leopard for his independence and stealthyness but after visiting owl abattoir in snowden drifts she decided to follow owl.
“To hear Bear or Wolf is to know fear, for their enemies cannot overcome them. To hear Owl is to know peace, for her enemies will never hear her coming.”
With all the right reasons. It’s just me, I assure you. I have strange things running through my mind…
Don’t worry, I’m still quite normal.
) I’m not worried) I like my character’s name, but still think about change surname)
maybe on Torgersen or Løkken, or…. may be Einarr. I do not know what it be… yet))))
thank you for your opinion))
I realize that many people have a emotional investment into a game that they purchased and intended to possibly play for many years to come, it is just sad to see what happens at times when people have differing opinions (which they are entitled to) but fail to be able to discuss things in a rational manner. The dev response from Chris Whiteside largely did not address I don’t think many players concerns but it is at least a response with some information in regards to the “future” of where they are heading with the game (from the post it seems it will be addressed in more detail after the holiday in the states). For my part I simply still enjoy the game, even though I am a bit on the fence about how some of these changes have been implemented, I am disheartened however when I log on and see so much negativity expressed with out there being much substance to it. This is not to say of course that people should not express their opinions, just be mindful in how it is done. Thanks for the response and have a great day and a happy holiday if you are in the states.
I am not sure how many of you have noticed the reason given for the closure of most of the threads has been because they have devolved into the forum version of a sibling fight without offering any real insight or constructive feedback. I urge users of these forums to please try and respond responsibly and with details and supporting evidence, not just conjecture and assumption. The “nuh uh you’re wrong and I am right” mentality simply does little to convey anything useful or help. Just my two cents, do with them what you will but please do so like a adult heh.
6/10 I would of game you more if you didn’t get the name by fluke =P
I have 3 humans currently
Guardian – Dragon Warrior Kai (main) he represents what I like dragons, fire and a warrior with a lot of courage. He attacks like a dragon with fire and slices like a warrior with a sword.
Warrior – Dragon Empress Sora Her name means sky in japanese, she is the queen of the dragons.
Necromancer – Soul Reaper Rika, she sucks out her enemies souls and uses them as her own life force. (currently leveling her)
My ranger’s spirit is snow leopard, it both suits her demeanor and preferred approach to challenges, strategy over brute force. Snow leopard is also deeply tied to the backstory I thought up for her, as a result she pays more reverence to the spirits than many norn.
My warrior’s spirit is bear, because great might makes for great legends.
