Guild Wars 2

Having a lot of fun tonight defending Cataboat™ from the groups who try to take it out. It’s victories are allowing it to grow in strength.

azizul.8469:

lol.. lost garrison and the rest… our NA coverage must be very bad….

NA coverage? That garrison fight lasted from about 2:00 am until ~5:00 am EST. Pretty late for PST too. It was one hell of a fight though. My favorite part was us at west inner with all you guys across the bridge then BAM, omega golem is between us. It surprised a good amount of our group; I’d assume it did your’s as well.

I’m also proud to say that I only went down twice during that and actually died once. That was only because I was trying to destroy whites and greys because my bags were full >.<

Drigan.7382:

iCryptik.1496:

Yarrr! A bunch o’ ye lasses need ‘ta check ye pants. Ye panties be ’n o’ mighty great knot.

I can’t ever read a single thing you write

And that’s why we love Al!

Seriously though, I’d suggest you get some pirates of your own over there on FA! We have a lot of fun holding down the fishing boats in Bay.

nibbles.2408:

Sir William PD.9615:

I’d like to thank TC and KN for not even trying to hide the fact they aren’t interested in fighting each other in FABL. I am usually the first person to poo poo the conspiracy 2v1 theories but omfg this is silly.

This past Thursday I was defending FABL and got into a fight with a KN invader, got him down to 10% when a TC thief came up and backstabbed/heartseeker kitten me to death. The KN guy stomped me, TC bowed to him, and they both went their separate ways. And keep in mind this was when TC and KN were within 1, 000 points of each other.

Some people just have grudges against FA. Personally, you guys are one of my least favorite servers, but you put up one hell of a fight, so I enjoy fighting you. If it makes you feel better, I saw two KN hit an FA guy tonight in KNBL, I decided to help the FA guy (despite my personal thoughts on FA) and we finished one of the KN before we were overwhelmed by a few others who showed up. This was right before we passed FA in points tonight, too, if that matters at all.

Mattjavelin.5164:

Good duels today in Fa bl behind the windmill with TC and a couple of kain, Good fights this week lets keep this awesomeness up on the next week most especially in reset day. Prepare for massive long queues

Every time I check there no one’s dueling. If anything there’s maybe ~4 people. I hope more show up this coming week! I really need to practice duels on my new Ele.

I hope someone gets a video or two up of this last hour of TC pushing KN’s garrison. So much fun and thanks to everyone (both TC and KN) who participated in it. Great job defending for so long, KN! We literally got a “jump” on you when we jumped out from behind the wall and off the cliff right into you guys. Thanks for all the loot bags, and you’re welcome for mine.

Raffie.7865:

That Grub has ruined more battle plans by distracting players then anything in WvW.
Like the saying goes “Rub-A-Dub-Dub, Thanks for the Grub”

Oh I can believe that. I was at Durios (that doesn’t look like I spelled it right, but oh well) and had pointed out that a medium sized FA group had the wall very low, so our group was coming to help. We just realized it was too late and noticed golems, so why not join the fun?

After we got wiped I kept trying to poke it to ensure I got gold, but FA kept shooing me away.

Stumbled upon FA’s EB group hitting the grub with a few golems, so we wanted to join in. Kain decided to come too.

Rothwilder.2071:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

SpitFire.4690:

Is it true that GODS and RET’s leaders quit and transferred server?? Cause someone PMd me from FA that both guild is having major internal issues

We had 2/5 guild leaders in RET decided they wanted to try something new. We hope they’ll be back but there’s no drama about it. RET continues to collect bags like it always has

I haven’t heard anything about GODS

I dont know 100%, but I have heard that GODS has been having some problems recently as well. After seeing the group of them after the update though, I’d say they still have a decent WvW scene… nothing compared to what I remember from T3 though.

GODS is just fine. We aren’t leaving FA and never would.

If I recall correctly, when TC last faced FA (before these last few weeks), [GODS] apparently had some sort of split where, I heard, a good portion of their guild came to TC. I even saw multiple members and spoke with a few. I think they ultimately made [BLNT] who stayed around for a couple weeks before leaving.

Glad to know, though. I use to be annoyed by your guild’s actions in WvW, which led me personally to want to target [GODS] more than some others. These past couple weeks have been a lot better. I guess you guys dropped your bad apples!

Chaba.5410:

Shazbot.8906:

So this is happening right now in FABL Garrison. Culling changes showing actual numbers scares me.

OMG I can’t wait! That’s so awesome. Hope I don’t need to nerf it…

Both of my settings are set to “low” so you shouldn’t have a problem. Lowest on quality just makes everyone (friendly and enemy) the low texture models. It’s like playing army soldiers!

So this is happening right now in FABL Garrison. Culling changes showing actual numbers scares me.

Had a lot of fun last night in KNBL. First big WvW night on my Ele and I loved being able to actually survive in zerg fights compared to being on my Thief. Totally different fighting experience.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

Score update please!

Maybe you should be online!

Can we have more duels at south camps’ windmills this week? It’s always fun to end a long day of WvW fighting with them.

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

Scores! I need a minute by minute narration of what’s going on in there

Oh man, looking at ~5k difference, will FA make a final comeback before reset? I know TC usually starts to pull ahead in PPT a bit later than that.

Pervin.5036:

skinnyb.5920:

Battle of the Dreaming Bay Boat.

We will never forget.

3/14/13 – 3/14/13

I was the necro in yak blood dyed clothes whose staff kept sending you kisses from the dock ;-)

We were curious what you were doing in the boat fully clothed

I kept QQing about your range with those dirty hands.

Teamkiller.4315:

Look, after today’s GvG, both RISE and RET (we’re wearing HG tags but we’re RET) did a synchronized line bow.

I want to find the Griffith Whitehawke guy and kill him. Something, something Highlander; there can be only one.

Or if Anet brings /hug to the in-game emotes, we can /hug it out and he can keep his two F’s because I hate spelling my name like that. I loath these two H’s though, so, so much.

Jayne.9251:

Shazbot.8906:

Pervin.5036:

Urrid.4593:

Can’t we just get along here?

Can’t we just kill each other in game?

To anyone chest thumping over the past couple pages, I hope to see you online!

Group hug on the quaggan node tonight? I promise not to wear my newly dolyak blood dyed gear if you guys promise not to wear FA tear colored clothing.

Let’s petition Anet for a /hug emote. I use to do that all the time in WoW when I beat someone in a 1v1, now I have to /salute and make it seem all professional.

I would love this! I would follow the FA Zerg around emoting this, even after death, to hug the cranky out. God knows I do it enough with our own players

I had a habit of doing it months ago close to release, only to be greeted by the “Unknown Command” text. ;_;

Pervin.5036:

Urrid.4593:

Can’t we just get along here?

Can’t we just kill each other in game?

To anyone chest thumping over the past couple pages, I hope to see you online!

Group hug on the quaggan node tonight? I promise not to wear my newly dolyak blood dyed gear if you guys promise not to wear FA tear colored clothing.

Let’s petition Anet for a /hug emote. I use to do that all the time in WoW when I beat someone in a 1v1, now I have to /salute and make it seem all professional.

Expunge.4926:

Shazbot.8906:

Fun night against BT in KNBL! I know you guys love Hills and all, but how could you not get bored of just standing there for so long?

This is a picture of BT gathered around a merchant vendoring

I apologize if I sounded rude, then. After they all ported out to snipe Bay from the KN/TC fight, I assumed they were all just watching and waiting on that.

Fun night against BT in KNBL! I know you guys love Hills and all, but how could you not get bored of just standing there for so long?

Here we have the CataTree’s evolved cousin, the CataBoat.

I bring you, the CataTree. It’s the last known of it’s species.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

TheFug.5278:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

JaironKalach.4938:

capuchinseven.8395:

Seriously dude if you think 25 players beating on your garrison door is a zerg you should see (or rather sort of culling see and not see) 30+ outside your door and another 15 beating on your water gate while 15 more take your Bay.

You are putting the weirdest words in my mouth. I’m not talking about the 25. I’m talking about the 50 with golems that show up after we beat the 25 back, or kick the 25 out of somewhere. I don’t know why you continue to presume that you know what my experience has been, ignore my descriptions of it, and then assume I don’t know what I’m talking about. You would do much better to ask questions then continue to be condescending. I’ve done my best to describe the differences between playing against TC vs. playing against FA, and describe why it was less fun, and suggest that Mags has work to do to be able handle it. My hope is that when we next TC (although I doubt we will for a while), we are better prepared for how your server plays.

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Convince people to show up for WvW when we aren’t in the lead. TC does nothing better than us other than bring numbers.

Tc does something better than you – we don’t stop fighting when we lose. We don’t sit in LA or at the world dragon’s while trolling everyone on the forums. Instead we go out and fight.

That’s not what one of your server mates says happens on TC.

Also, itt people from your server have said new faces are showing up in this tier.

Personally, one of the reasons I (and others I know) came to TC was because they kept fighting the entire week. I think DB does that pretty well, just not enough as a whole server.

Halo.8976:

Shazbot.8906:

Going out on a limb here, are you the Necro in [HELL] that kept fighting a thief destroying siege at the south gate/walls? If so, that was me and I wanted to say it was a fun stalemate!

Yep. Was trying to get our people to actually start hunting you down, but it was too late before all the siege was gone. Oh, but I got some asura thief =P

Haha, yeah, a few more thieves showed up after I had already taken out most of the stuff at the south gate >.<. I got dropped when I tunnel visioned the treb in the courtyard, though. It was fun playing hide and seek with you to say the least!

Vi Au.8341:

ppl stop saying it is worst in t1 or t2
that t1 and t2 is but a zerg fest that is how WvW should be played.
Many of us transfered to a non t1 or t2 server because we didnt want that style of play
Also who claimed that WvW had to be a zergfest.

so please stop saying that it is worst in the higher tiers cuze it is irrelevant. many of us enjoy t3-t4 playstyle and have no intention of moving up

Pretty much this. Higher tiers are played like that, and the people who like that style of play went to those servers. While lower tiers are played a lot differently. It seems like two entirely different games (figuratively speaking) going from mid tier level WvW to high tier level WvW. Having been on both CD and TC, along with a bunch of people I play with, we’ve experienced both levels and have seen both sides of the arguments. These two servers, along with others, have been all around T2-T4.

I think it’s best to just realize that the match up was bad for the reason that between T2 and T3 is like a split between two different styles of play. If you enjoy smaller fights that rely more on skill than numbers, stick to being in a lower tier server. If you enjoy high numbered zergs (still involving skill) then stick to a higher tier server. It’s as simple as that.

Lenador.1436:

Fun Fight Club tonight in Db Bl gonna miss mag for a change and TC, who am i gonna fight next week T.T during my break time? Btw Assuming when you get back mag ,<.< less eles and less guardians, you too TC

Tonight was an awesome dueling night. Out of the few times I’ve been this week, this was definitely the biggest turnout I’ve seen. Hope you guys enjoyed the Quaggan provided fireworks, too!

Halo.8976:

TC Borderlands, east keep, summarizing the battle http://youtu.be/FAelujG461o
That was fun. We should do this more.

Going out on a limb here, are you the Necro in [HELL] that kept fighting a thief destroying siege at the south gate/walls? If so, that was me and I wanted to say it was a fun stalemate!

OdinBudd.5298:

YES! Maguuma, thank you for this, made my day

You are a quirky bunch, I like you!

Taking those out as I’m typing this.

Amazing fight those Mag who just held out at TCBL Hills! Sooo many ballistas and arrow carts, and that omega! Had fun trying to stay hidden and whittle away at your siege. Good job defending, definitely one of my favorite fights of the week.

Halo.8976:

Ah, finally we’re just like the good, old Maguuma. So happy.

I don’t mean to sound mean or anything, but I nominate this for the overall score update as well as a summery for the match this week.

TC with a large group, all huddled together (with some stepping over their boundaries); DB with a medium sized guild group, also huddled together; then Mag, spread out and low in numbers, doing what they can to stay in this.

It’s been a great week with great fights though, guys! Despite the fact that the scores can be demoralizing, I respect those who kept trying their best and didn’t give up, and I hope you guys still has a much fun as I did.

saiyr.3071:

Jayne.9251:

dreztina.4820:

Jayne.9251:

I wanted to say Mag’s LL guild thieves. We hate you. We really do. You’re too darn good at your class. Any time there’s a roaming thief on the map, the question is “Is it LL?”

There’s a big groan if the answer is yes.

You mean iLL?

Could be .. they kill me so fast I never have time but to note a few letters lol. All I see is the LL … and then poof off in a puff of smoke and me lying there shaking my fist.

iLL is the only guild I know of that fit those letters and they’re a pretty big guild. Entirely possible there’s an LL guild we just don’t know of, though…

I encountered two full-zerker iLL thieves on reset night, one wasn’t nice. They’d both just open with their elite (Basilisk Venom) and double backstab me for a “one-shot”, then /laugh at me.

It was fun switching to my zerker build and taking them both out, though.

Vi Au.8341:

come on… i just beat this TC in a fair duel 1v1 and keeps trash talking me after i using thieves guild… have some class

Sorry that some TC players are like that. Just don’t give him your cookies for being that way!

nalenb.1425:

It was fun trying to defend Woodhaven tonight. Until my arrow cart inside at the bottom of the ramp, far from the gate was destroyed. I’m pretty sure this arrow cart can’t hit that far inside the tower or can it? Can it hit pretty much the entire ground area inside the tower?

That entire fight was fun, even us trying to hit the Garrison from Woodhaven and you guys finally wiping us.

Zynthetic.2954:

Whoever was on it would just aim through the gate. If whoever was using it was standing where that [DIS] player is, they’d easily be able to see inside and hit whatever is on the ground in the tower. Seeing as it’s so far from the gate and out of LoS, I’m not sure your AC would have been able to shoot back at it.

AC’s are the best way to counter enemy AC’s on the inside of the gate. It’s also why you build your gate hitting defensive AC’s on the ground out of LoS of the gap in the gate. #themoreyouknow

I’m fairly sure this was what was happening. I actually am that player and I was using the area above the gate to check inside to see numbers when I would run by. I wasn’t on the arrow cart, though, so I can’t give info on what all it actually can hit effectively.

I had no clue that was what the change was for. I’ve always noticed it doing this, but I use a build that didn’t take the ability, so it never concerned me. It just seems wrong for that to happen, in my opinion. Normally the only way to get the debuff (as far as I knew) was to attack, and this ability acting the way it does seemed wrong.

Thanks for clearing it up, though, I appreciate it. I guess I’ll just have to put up with it.

Pinko.2076:

Could use more DB/TC at DB south south for some duels~

If you were one of the Mesmers I dueled, just wanted to say it was fun! Mesmers are one of my weak points but this new way I approach the fight seems to be working pretty well.

I was the [DIS] Thief who came up with the air elemental tonic on, and I’ll definitely be coming to hang out tomorrow to do some more.

Normally when a Thief (or anyone, I assume) attacks a target while stealthed, they receive the debuff that makes it impossible for them to stealth for a few seconds. However, when using Shadow Refuge, if you leave the ability’s area before the time is complete, you get the debuff. No attacks are even made and this happens.

I’m reporting it because time after time it has caused me issues in WvW (primarily) and some PvE content. If I try to hide using the ability, a Mesmer can just pull or push me out and I have ~3-4 seconds before I can use another ability to allow myself to be safe. The same thing goes for any other profession that can displace your character in some way. Normally these abilities would not even break stealth, even if inside Shadow Refuge’s area, but if you’re knocked out of it then it does so and provides the debuff as if you (the Thief) attacked.

I’m sure others do the same as me and use stealth utilities as a “panic button” to save themselves. This issue causes an inconvenience when this particular ability is used in the given situation, and ones similar to it.

The first image shows me inside the area of effect with the stealth debuff; the second image shows me outside of the area (slightly forward and left of the initial position), this time with the debuff.

Images: http://imgur.com/a/O5Nnl#0
I apologize for my timing on the shots since the buff and debuff were flashing, they are about 50% visible, but you can see tell what the icons are.

Cranberry Snapple.3175:

Dear diary, today I went to WvW. It was a merry time with Dragonbrand, but I got a few broken ribs and some stitches. I took a picture of TC guys visiting our Bay Keep. I was so jealous of how many friends you have! We tried to run in for some hugs but it hurt! Oh there are some lonely times roaming in DB…
But I must thank you all Dragonbranders who bravely stood by and tried to hold the lord’s room with all your might, even knowing we were faced certain death!

You guys put up a great fight! It was a fun back and forth struggle to claim it. Especially the fight by the Worm event and the few in the Keep Lord’s room. Hope to have more this week

I play on Crystal Desert, and anyone who is matched against us right now knows that for the majority of the week, we have been dominating WvW. Doing this really takes a lot of fun out of WvW for me, the enemies get demoralized and just stop trying most of the time, and so the winning team continues to gain their lead. I have a suggestion to give teams who are getting beat that bad a chance to come back and give a challenge.

First off, I suggest that points are dumped daily. The total for each team is unseen by players in order to not discourage people from trying by looking at the score screen. At the end of the match-up the team with the most points total would be the victor, as in any case.

I also propose exchanging the Orbs of Power with another objective based item (something that may give a smaller/different buff). These allow the winning team to just snowball. The original buff (or a stronger/new buff) could be given to the teams that are losing each day. This will keep a team from dominating for an excessive period of time.

For example: On Day 1 of the match-up, let’s say that the score ends with Green>Blue>Red, with Green being the top for the day. For Day 2, Green will be a constant, meaning they get no extra buff besides the Orbs (or new buff given in place) they have. Blue would get a slight buff that is similar to having one Orb (or something similar), if my initial idea of replacing the Orb buff was in place. Red would get the benefit of two Orbs with the same system. These buffs would last for that day. On Day 3, say the score for the day ended with Blue>Red>Green (not implying that the buff would be that powerful alone). Blue’s buff would be wiped clean, Red’s current buff would stack with that of second place for the day, and Green would get the last place bonus.

There are ways to use a strategy with this by intentionally losing multiple days in order to have a huge buff (which could be set by a cap), but this would be a high risk since other teams may have their keeps upgraded too much. It’s a high risk/high reward type strategy. That is the only way I can think of (at the moment) that people may call an “exploit.”

This is far from a polished idea, just something I came up with when talk of my server’s enemies for the week being demoralized, as well as other match-ups being completely dominated. I’m open to suggestions and critiquing on the idea, and I would also like Arena Net to possibly give it some thought.