Guild Wars 2

I completely agree with ReaperJr, this is my biggest problem with the league-system right now. Not only does it allow exploits (mmr-tanking), it basically forces you to use them. I had such high hopes for the new system, but so far it has failed to deliver it’s most important feature: MEANINGFUL pvp-achievements. The best way to get the Primordial Legend title (unless you queue with a full pro-team) is to exploit and grind. Really quite sad, please try to change this. If you lack ideas, I’d be happy to give you some, it really wouldn’t be that hard to do this better.

Narkodx.1472:

This will be my last post to you

It isn’t “your” build – you think you are the first person to come up with a venom share build!?

Are you even aware of what top players use in PvP? How long have you been playing this game?

It is a KNOWN fact that Stealth and Venom focused builds are terrible – When you are not surrounded by your teammates you are USELESS

Not much more to say really – I am glad you want to be “creative” and think that your build is “special” the reality is we have all tried it before and it sucks when you go up against top level competition

I mean you have NO STUNBREAKERS – that alone makes it a complete joke

at least now you’re giving some reasons. since your “last post” includes questions, here’s the reply:
1) i call it “my” build, because it differs from what i have seen in venom share builds on sites like metabattle. of course i’m not the first one to run something like this.
2) i’ve been playing since the beta, though i was never very interested in competitive play. i’ve only been trying around with pvp recently, but i don’t see how that decreases the worth of what i have to say, since our discussion was simply about “does this build work or not”.
3) it might be “known” that venom-share sucks, but it’s not a fact, at least not after the changes that came with the last few patches.
4) i don’t know about “top level competition”, but that was never the topic. i’m talking normal ranked pvp. and yes, “my” build doesn’t include stunbreakers, which is an issue, but not a large one. i have enough toughness to survive most initial bursts and the blind+invisibility from blinding powder help me get away after that (IF i get hit). also, you forget “withdraw”, which i can use every 15 seconds.

another edit:
first you don’t wanna duel me because i use shadow arts, then you tell me i’m useless if not surrounded by teammates? that’s some great reasoning.

Narkodx.1472:

Shinigami.2398:

Narkodx.1472:

Dual Daggers + 30 Shadow Arts + Venoms in Ranked Arena and claims to do well….

face+palm

your disbelief hurts me :o
…not really, but if you want proof, just fight me
ingame name: Xían

Yea because I am really interested in fighting a full shadow arts thief 1v1
Best part is you actually think that a duel proves that your build is useful and that you aren’t a waste of time in a CONQUEST 5v5 game mode – the key word here is CONQUEST – where stealth is a liability

yeah, i guess dropping everyone on a point in a few seconds through shared damage really is quite the liability… also, the fact that it’s a venom SHARE build should already tell you that it’s not 1v1 focused (and not really stealth focused either), but if you just want to downtalk my build without making an effort to understand it, let’s just end this discussion cuz it’s no fun.
Edit: also i didn’t write anything about wanting to duel you. i wrote “fight” which could mean showing you my build in a ranked match as well.

Narkodx.1472:

Dual Daggers + 30 Shadow Arts + Venoms in Ranked Arena and claims to do well….

face+palm

your disbelief hurts me :o
…not really, but if you want proof, just fight me
ingame name: Xían

Shanks.2907:

If you’re taking d/d over p/d, why not put an intelligence sigil on dagger to take advantage of all the power from the carrion amulet instead of sigil of force? Would be pretty handy to swap > cloak and dagger > backstab.

Still, I see p/d as far more effective in a venom share build in pvp. Much more consistent bleed stacks than spamming death blossom.

didn’t put much thought into the sigils, thx for the tip i’ll try intelligence out. as for p/d, i just don’t like it as much. d/d suits my playstyle better… also, death blossoms worth lies not only in bleed stacks but rather in the evasion it provides.

NinjaEd.3946:

If anet listened to venom feedback and took it more seriously venoms probably would of been fixed into a more known build but I rarely see anyone run it. Once they realize how sub-par it is to an actual support build its only there for fun really.

you are right, venoms aren’t the greatest “support” choice. however, that doesn’t mean they need to be fixed… if used the right way, they can still be very strong for a damage/support hybrid build.

this for example works pretty well for me in ranked pvp:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c33V;1VwkZ0Y5FPFd0;9;4T-T-937B;138B;12;0aNV0U;1cV19cV191D

@mPascoal “cancer”?
you’re by no means “stuck with meta”, my build is nowhere to be found on metabattle and i do very well with it in ranked matches.

since i can’t send you a pm for some reason (spam control??), here the link for my pvp build:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c33V;1VwkZ0Y5FPFd0;9;4T-T-937B;138B;12;0aNV0U;1cV19cV191D

stop whining, i think the patch improved things and i’m not the only one. as to some builds not being fun anymore… so what? make a new one! every build gets boring after some time, just try something new.

Demon from the mists

people often laugh at me for using this in pvp… but they never laugh long

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c33V;1VwkZ0Y5FPFd0;9;4T-T-937B;138B;12;0aNV0U;1cV19cV191D

first of all, for a build to be “decent” you gotta learn how to play it. also, each game mode favors different playstyles. i guess you’re looking for a pve/dungeon build?
for casual solo pve, i would recommend something stealth-focused (i can give more details if you are interested), for dungeons i am personally using a venom share build (and a slightly different version for pvp), which works really well with “stacking” tactics and generally provides a lot of damage support.