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Minstrel’s Waypoint [Cmaj], the biggest music guild on EU, is inviting you all to celebrate our second anniversary! Mark the date! We’ll be celebrating tonight (the 14th of August) at 20:00 CEST (or 19:00 BST) at Horncall Waypoint in Wayfarer Foothills.
What is Minstrel’s Waypoint?
Minstrel’s Waypoint [Cmaj] is a musical guild dedicated to playing music manually, as in we do not use macros, also known as autohotkey scripts. Other than that we have no real rules (so come and join us ), and are generally a very relaxed guild. Our main activity is of course to play music – generally in Divinity’s Reach – where we play both songs together, and by ourselves. Other than playing in Divinity’s Reach the guild has performed at numerous Aurora Glade community events, and we have hosted two events of our own! Soon three!
Our Youtube Channel:
What will the event be about?
As we’re sure you can guess, we’ll be playing music! Lots of it! We’ll also play lots of games such as a best Fun ‘o Box petrify pose contest!
All games will have prizes of different kinds! They range from ectos to gem store items like instruments! And last but not least we will have a precursor giveaway during our big raffle! The signup of which will take place during the event, so make sure to be there!
Last but not least we’ll have a look out for the prettiest male and female characters attending the event! At the end of the event they will be awarded special prizes, so make sure to dress well!
Where will it be?
As stated at the top of the post, we’ll be hosting the event on the 14th of August at 20:00 CEST (19:00 BST). We will begin gathering 30 minutes before the start of the event at Horncall Waypoint in Wayfarer Foothills, but nothing event related will start before the previously stated time.
If you do not manage to enter the right flow we’ll have a squad (or several) that you can join to taxi in. To join the squad type (without the quotation marks): /squadjoin Piieuw
We hope to see you at the event! Chiaoooooooooooooo~
Minstrel’s Waypoint [Cmaj], the non-macro musicians guild on EU is here to celebrate our anniversary! To do so we have decided to host a party at 20:00 CEST on Sunday the 26th of July in Lion’s Arch, all are welcome!
For those of you who do not know of us, Minstrel’s Waypoint is the biggest musical guild on the EU servers, and our main goal is to have fun while playing music ourselves, not with macro’s. We’ve been at it for a year and during that year we have not only had a lot of fun, but we’ve also improved a lot! On the EU Servers we’ve been requested to play at numerous events, including Aurora Glade’s huge community events that you may have heard of. We’ve finally decided to try to host our own event, and they were lovely enough to donate us something special to give away.
Here are a few videos of songs we’ve produced, and an event we played at.
Zelda Medley by Silverdisc and Nestrae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24fK8ri-mkE
Cmaj performing at Southsun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ptEnkfOqBw
What’s going to happen during the party?
[Cmaj] is a music guild above all else and therefore, there will of course be a musical concert performed by the guild. There will be many different songs, from Yann Tiersen’s Comptine d’Un Autre Eté
to Darude’s Sandstorm. However, it is still a party! There will be a few fun games we’ve come up with (with prizes for the winners of course) and a raffle to win a Mini Llama and other prizes.
Over the last few months we have spent planning this event, our guild has raised a lot of gold between us for giveaways. As stated before there will be a raffle, this raffle will have three prizes which are;
For third place: A Musical Harp (or a Musical Instrument of your choice) from the Gem Store.
For second place: Another Musical Harp, and a Mini Rock.
Finally, for first place: Not only a third Musical Harp, but an extremely rare Mini Llama, only obtainable by visiting the ArenaNet booth at Gamescom, or through certain community events, which were graciously provided with Llamas by ArenaNet themselves.
We have also planned a Costume Contest with the theme “Pokémon”. Get creative!
Where and when?
At 19:45 CEST Sunday the 26th of July we will assemble in the newly recreated Lions Arch by the North Entrance, here the guild will play random songs until 8:00 when we will all run to the Vigil Keep, playing songs as we go. To ensure you are in the correct flow for the event you should whisper some of the members of our guild;
Any of these members will be happy to invite you to a party so you may join our flow, but please leave the party afterwards to ensure we can get everyone together.
We hope to have a great time with you all!
(edited by Silverdisc.1305)
Wowa, this has nothing to do with my self-esteem :o .
I certainly get where macro users are coming from and I respect your opinion. I personally love listening to electronic music, and I’ve had the “electronic music is not real music”-argument thousands of times with friends. If you can entertain people with macro-music, that’s great. I do not dislike macro-users. But I do think this game would be a lot more fun if everyone who played was playing themselves.
If you want to hear a song, you could just open YouTube. Now, if those songs you hear are actually played by real people, live, that’s something special! And I think that would be more fun in the long run. At least for me and many others. There’s a lot of fun that macro-users are missing. But then again, that’s just my opinion. Yours may differ!
I do not want a ridiculous elitist best-in-show kitten contest (although kittens are awesome!). To stick to the analogy: I just want a kitten show without a winner, where every kitten is real and not some kitten doll you can buy on the internet.
And yes, it is a less fun to practice something yourself when some other person just presses one button. That’s why some people are quitting now, and why I am writing these posts. I will not stop doing what I do because of it, but I would prefer if Guild Wars 2 was entirely macro free, because I’d have more fun playing.
Hey there, this is Silverdisc, I’m one of the founders of [Cmaj]. We’re a macro-free musician guild on the EU servers. You might know us from our performances at the Aurora Glade Harvest Festival, The King And Queens Horrorween 2014 and some YouTube videos (including the Ocarina of Time Medley).
I personally don’t agree with this decision at all. Let me explain:
Many of us play Guild Wars 2, only because we enjoy making music together. We help each other get better, write tabs, perform at events and make videos. We do it because we enjoy it: it’s unique to be able to play music together with someone miles away, and it’s a lot of fun. I made a lot of friends playing music in Guild Wars 2.
We’re always trying to improve. We practice a lot, try to play with more and more players, and try to make our tabs sound better. And the fun thing is, you don’t need to be a gifted musician in real life to have fun playing in Guild Wars 2. I barely played piano before picking up the harp in GW2: it actually got me more motivated to learn playing piano.
The reason we dislike macro’s, is because when someone uses macro’s, it destroys our motivation to get better. It makes us feel bad, because all those hours we spent practicing start to feel like they were in vain. A macro users will always be able to play more complicated stuff then someone playing themselves (that’s because of the way octave switching works and because of the slight delay when playing a note). No matter how hard we try, we can’t reach their level.
Imagine this: you worked on a song for quite some time. You decide to publish the tabs on the internet for other people to enjoy. You’re in Divinity’s Reach and you play it. Someone tells you they really enjoyed it, and it makes you feel happy. That’s one of the reasons we play music: we don’t only enjoy it ourselves, other people enjoy it too.
Then, someone with a macro shows up, and plays your exact song, but with 100% perfect timing, and a bunch of chords added that are almost impossible to play by hand. Even though I know that the other person uses a macro, it still makes me feel.. I don’t know, disappointed? I worked really hard to play that song, and that other person pressed one button. Yet he is playing better than me, and people are enjoying his music more.
This happens almost daily. We actually had to lock our Google Doc with tabs, because, even though we asked people not to macro our songs, it kept happening. You publish a nice tab you’ve worked on for a long time? I guarantee you that it will be macro’ed within a couple of days. You do the work; other people steal the show. It doesn’t matter how much we practice: we will never be able to reach the level of macro players. And that makes you want to stop trying.
Now, some people have argued this: “Playing music is about having fun yourself! It’s not about impressing people!” Well, the thing is, it kind of is about impressing people, yeah. It’s fun to be able to play something, sure. But a large part of the fun is that people will enjoy hearing what you play. That’s a part of what music is about.
When macro’s are allowed, a large part of the fun is lost. The part where you go to DR, play what you have practiced for hours, and the part where people tell you they like it. And that’s one of the most fun parts: both for us, and for many people listening.
I once asked some musicians what they thought about macro’s. I recall that a member of the Traveling Bobo’s told me: “If everyone uses macro’s, then what is the point? Nobody will stop to listen.”
And that is exactly why we dislike macro’s. If everyone else in the world got a free Twilight, would you still grind for one? Many people wouldn’t. The process of getting Twilight might be fun, but it doesn’t feel like you accomplished something. Everyone else has it anyway. That’s how we feel when macro users play songs.
Another musician I know had just finished a duet tab. She had to record two takes: one of her playing the lower notes, and one of her playing the upper notes. Then she put them together and it sounded amazing. She worked on it for quite a while and put it on YouTube. Not very long after, someone had turned it into a one-player macro, and she ran into loads of people who played the entire thing simultaneously, solo. She has since quit playing music in GW2.
Macro’s were a daily annoyance to us before this post. I, honestly, would’ve preferred ArenaNet to remain silent on this subject. This post will create an enormous amount of macro players, which will, and has already, made people quit, including many of my friends. I am not planning to quit, and I’ll keep having fun playing myself, but it will not be the same.
On behalf of many members of [Cmaj], I ask you to reconsider.
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To me, it seems backwards to say that macros would be okay for music, because music is not a game-related situation. To some players, including myself, music is some of the most enjoyable gameplay in all of GW2.
I know that we should not let macro users interfere with our enjoyment, but that’s not an easy thing to do. It is extremely frustrating to practice something for weeks on end, and then have someone show up next to you and play your song way better than a human ever could, without any effort.
To us, being able to play certain songs has the same value as having items like a legendary. It’s something you work for, and something you’re happy about when you’ve finally got it. It’s a goal. Macro users are frustrating to musicians in the same way as “free legendaries” would be frustrating to players.
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