Guild Wars 2

Well, once I figured out to ignore worms and found the ramp I STILL couldn’t kill him. Once he puts his shields up I’m stuck. And no mysterious “sun crystal” ever shows up. Help!

Thanks for all of the additional info… and thanks to Crimson… Yes, now that you’ve explained it. Yes they deserve to die horribly.

It’s funny that the person that answered my “why hate PVE” question outlined all of the things I don’t like about the WvW experience. For me (but again, I only have a few days in, and that only for map clear, so it is possible I could change my mind), it is WvW that is super predictable and limited. Run run run…kill kill kill yawwwwwn.

And the landscaping is SO boring compared to the PVE landscaping. I did go to the beginning of the JP, but didn’t have time to do it. It looks (at least from the first part) as if it’s one even I can do. I am glad that they’re opening up some new maps though, now that I’ve completed almost everything new stuff will be welcome.

Oh and Crimson. I bumped it. I couldn’t find another thread that as closely matched my comments/complaints.

In most online forums a month old thread is a fairly new, and depending on the subject matter can last for months (for example political/social debate subjects). Ergo, not “old”. Unless of course one is still measuring one’s own age in a very small number of years I guess.

Have a “map clear” boost (so to speak). Where people just trying to complete the world map are impervious to opposing player attack, and can get their dadblasted POIs and Vistas done without spending weeks doing it (waiting for color changes and such).

By the same token they do still have to watch out for the regular foes, but they do NOT get to reap WvW APs like events and such.

Trust me, we “noobs” don’t like being in your world annoying you anymore than you like us to be there, so it would be nice to have the ability to get the map clear done and get out of Dodge.

Thanks! Someone had mentioned it in another forum (not the official one), and they weren’t very clear. So I wasn’t sure if they meant the former repair costs or if enemies (they specifically mentioned thieves) could actually steal items or coins.

I hate WvW, but apparently it’s a necessary evil if one is to finish world map completion. I kinda knew that, but having never been to WvW prior to this, I didn’t realize what a PITA it would be.

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Skye Terrier.3805:

But I’m confused. Whenever I’m in WvW (as little as possible), there’s no way to talk to the “enemy”. How did you invite him? If there were only a way to say “PLEASE! Just let me get to this Vista and this POI and then you can smash me to your hearts’ content”! I’d be ever so grateful.

Typically I block them to get their name/account name, type it out in /whisper, and then unblock them.

I had a situation with an uplevel thief during the tourney that was desperately trying to get the yak kills achievement done in the last few hours (this was, of course, before people realized you could still do the achievements for days after the tourney ended). I had repeatedly killed her at SE camp trying to kill yaks, until she stood at the top in the invul zone and whispered if she could just kill 6 yaks coming out of SE camp to get it and she’d be on her way. Our towers were fully supplied, our hills were T3, so I said sure. I told people in map chat not to worry about the disappearing yaks from SE camp and kept an eye on her to make sure she was only killing yaks — forgive me for being a bit distrustful, but a tactic like that could allow her to call her buddies to let them know SE camp was free for the taking or some such and it was a tourney after all. She got her achievement, thanked me, and left.

Honestly, while I’m typically of a “red is dead” mindset, stuff like that makes me feel good.

Oh thanks so much for the tip. I didn’t know there was a way to communicate with the “enemy” at all.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

I don’t know why this has been bumped, but most groups will not hesitate to chase and down a solo roamer in many cases, so I don’t care if anyone else adds in to make it a fair fight, even when they get zerged down; sometimes it’s their just deserts.

..

“…sometimes it’s their just [SIC] deserts….”.

Just out of curiosity, what did a person do to deserve that just because they happen to be alone? As I explained, a lot of us are merely trying to do map clear and we swear to you, by all that’s holy, you’ll get rid of us a lot FASTER if you’d just let us finish that.

As I also said, it’s usually quite obvious when another player IS trying to do map clear as they’re generally heading toward a POI or Vista.

Why do they need to have “just desserts” for that?

As I also explained, usually we steer clear and give other loners (of the opposing team) a wide birth. It’s pretty obvious when two opposing players pass each other and are giving each other that courtesy.

Yesterday, I was about 3 steps from getting up to get a vista and someone just HAD to come over and kill me. They just couldn’t wait until I got the darned thing, that’s being a very poor sport. CLEARLY I have no ranking and am helpless so they could have waited 2 seconds for me to get the stupid vista to kill me if they HAD to. But these guys were on the road (presumably going to a battle I could see going on a bit further north on the map), but they veered off their group to come over.

Since I was THIS CLOSE to the vista, and obviously not part of the enemy going to, or holding down the fort at the attack site, there was no real strategic need to kill me, other than out of sheer vindictiveness.

I think a lot of people forget that there are actual, you know PEOPLE on the other side of the monitor and not some imagined jerk that they have to “get”.

Why did “isn’t” repost as “kitten”?

Otaur.9268:

Skye Terrier.3805:

In answer to a question upthread.

Some of us solo roam because Anet forced us to, if we want to do map completion. I applaud the class and sportsmanship of those who (especially when it’s SUPER obvious a player is headed for a POI or Vista) just leave us the heck alone. I wish we were allowed to message other players (the opposing ones) in the game, I swear I’d give them a big thank you and “well done sir”.

And a huge boo on the poor sportsmanship of those who stomp the single player with 5-15 player groups. Wow, what a massive accomplishment that is. So much skill and effort required there (there aren’t enough rollie eyes).

If you just leave us the heck alone, we’ll map clear as quick as we can and never darken your HardCore WvW points game again.

I had an enemy uplevel in WvW just trying to get from his side of the map to our side to get a Juvenile Salamander Drake. My party mate killed him thinking it was funny, so I left the party, re-invited the enemy, and escorted him all the way to my spawn for the Drake. Even politely asked several server mates that got him into downed state not to stomp so he could get the pet. All-in-all, I got him all the way there and even saved him from the monsters before he WP’d out. I just finished mapping on 1 char, and it was tedious… Don’t think I will be doing it on my other 7. Also, I hate PvE.

You are one of the gentlemen then! I have had one of you help me in Edge of the Mists (Xmas version for Wintersday IIRC).

But I’m confused. Whenever I’m in WvW (as little as possible), there’s no way to talk to the “enemy”. How did you invite him? If there were only a way to say “PLEASE! Just let me get to this Vista and this POI and then you can smash me to your hearts’ content”! I’d be ever so grateful.

Not that you’re wrong, but why don’t you like PvE? The colors, locations, detail, content, everything has so much MORE to it.

I mean WvW is basically glorified “Capture the Flag” and kind of a one trick pony, isn’kitten Whomever has the biggest population wins. To be fair, I’ve only been in it for a few days, after playing “regular” PVE for almost 2 years.

If I had known that it was such a pain, and part of map completion requirements, I would have started it long ago! As it is, it took me probably 6 months to even get to know the game well enough to figure out achievements and so on.

When you get killed in WvW, do the players that killed you get to “steal” from you?

BTW, I did a search, and found no other threads on this. So I either didn’t word it right, or it’s not been asked yet. Thanks

On review of forum. A month is “old”? Wow, do we have the patience and attention span of 2 year olds?

In answer to a question upthread.

Some of us solo roam because Anet forced us to, if we want to do map completion. I applaud the class and sportsmanship of those who (especially when it’s SUPER obvious a player is headed for a POI or Vista) just leave us the heck alone. I wish we were allowed to message other players (the opposing ones) in the game, I swear I’d give them a big thank you and “well done sir”.

And a huge boo on the poor sportsmanship of those who stomp the single player with 5-15 player groups. Wow, what a massive accomplishment that is. So much skill and effort required there (there aren’t enough rollie eyes).

If you just leave us the heck alone, we’ll map clear as quick as we can and never darken your HardCore WvW points game again.

This is an annoying game. The “instructions” given at the beginning of the game are poorly written and very sparse. What exactly are you supposed to do except run around like a chicken with your head cut off, just hoping to stumble upon something you need?

Broken Angel.4956:

1) Let me google that for you (Hint: try the youtube option of google)
2) A level lower or higher. Find stairs

I actually found this link through googling. And I googled it to a fare thee well, at that. None of the links show how to get there, they only have non-helpful maps of it, or descriptions of it. I went down the stairs, nothing but water ad a bridge abutment in the way…

I don’t see a door to go through, or stairs to provide access to a higher level, only the ones that go down to the “river”. Are you supposed to travel away from the main Bane gates? If so, which direction, how far, etc? As someone said further up thread, big pain in the behind, and does not have the same detail as other city maps.