Guild Wars 2

Myst.9182:

Missing out on an event sucks, but missing out on a chance for a precursor is unfair.

The prize is too good to not let everyone have a chance.

Either give everyone a chance at it or don’t give away precursors.

Sadly in either case Anet could have done this is a much much better.

This guy / girl gets it. That’s the whole spirit of my post / thread. If your offering something so valuable, something that has the possibility of changing your entire game with the gold is can go for, or shave a huge amount of time from grinding and farming it’s gold value, you need to give everyone a chance at it. And, you need to do it in a better way instead of handing these things out. Yes, people say that A-net is trying too increase the availability of precursors in game, but you do not simply hand them out at the end of a 3 hours zergfest.

LordYz.8941:

@xEtherx Please read the post properly. The op is whining about ppl getting a virtual weapon which to him worth $250 green paper. . I know it is hard to swallow for ppl whose aim and direction in game is to make a legendary. Hey look on the bright side! Anet is gonna make it easier so sooner or later u will get yours!.

P.S I do not own a precursor too. And I did not exploit the event with alt chars. I only played it once.

Actually I was not whining at all My post was well thought out, articulated for a wide audience, and had many examples and also how I arrived at my conclusion. It also had issues that were of a legitimate concern to players, and honestly A-net itself.
Oh, and I already covered that no, you cannot go out and sell this weapon for $250 physical real American dollars, but it does have a $250 in game currency.

LordYz.8941:

A post for whiners. Nuff said. Have fun.

Post – a single entry into a thread on a forum.
Thread – a collection of posts on a forum that form a conversation

So yea, this is a post for a whiner. Nuff said. Have fun

rtommaso.3120:

I can understand if you complai about the stupid lag, the dy 2 event being canceled (and not a word about it – at least I didnt see), the final event being boring as hell, about the quests bugged, all of this makes sense to me. But complaining because you didnt get a drop from a chest and someone else did, well, this is just childish in my opinion. BTW, I didnt get no precursor and the highest value item ive got was worth less than 5g, but I wont be crying for this.

I agree that if you looted the chest and didn’t get anything good, that sucks. Everyone is allowed to be mad about that. But, this post is about not everyone getting a fair chance at actually participating in the event and looting the chest. And when you offer something so valuable from an event, and don’t allow maximum participation, that is inherently unfair and poorly planned.

Joukehainen.5148:

Wow. Good point, OP, I didn’t think of it this way. That is how games with stores work, though. :P

I’m still peeved bc the Euro rate is 20% more expensive than the USD rate bc the conversions in the store don’t take rates into consideration (10USD is NOT 10 Euros :P)

I first thought of in game stores with Eve Online, and how they could assign a dollar amount to ships that got blown up (remember that $1300 ship? kitten) based on the PLEX you could buy (in game play time) with real money and thought… you could do that with GW2 because gems have dollar amounts! It’s not exactly cost efficient to buy gold this way, kinda expensive really.
The exchange rate in GW2 for Euros and Dollars is the same? That’s insane! Bring the guy kittenes masks my friend, we going to Arena Net HQ.
Really mods…. Guy kittenes is kittenized? For shame…

@ Polantaris.9513
You said the well dude. The posts are bring our my sarcastic side, and its late here in Korea. I don’t think I can put as much thought into these post tonight. Well said again.

Pochibella.8394:

I really don’t understand. People complained because the Halloween event didn’t drop good enough loot. They complained because the one time Halloween event was “just” a cut scene.

Guess what? Anet apparently listened. They gave us a 3 hour long event AND decent rewards. Yet this STILL isn’t good enough!

I have seen posts where people were online and didn’t go to the event because they thought it was going to be lame and then they are griping because they would have gone if they knew the loot would be good. Sheesh!

I was there for the three hours, the lag, the disconnects, the deaths to invisible things because of culling issues. I didn’t get a precursor. I am still having to farm. Big deal! It’s a game.

It is like complaining that your neighbor won the lottery and you didn’t when you didn’t even buy a ticket! You shouldn’t get free stuff if you weren’t there. Sorry you weren’t there. If you think that an item in game is worth $250 but you had to go to work and miss the event, then I guess you should have skipped work unless you get paid more than $250 a day.

Anet can’t win! No, it wasn’t a perfectly implemented event. But they did seem to take in feedback from the Halloween event. Some people are just never happy and wouldn’t be even if Anet sent them a free precursor in the mail. Then it would be “I didn’t get the one I wanted. I got the one that is flowers and rainbows but I wanted the other one.”

Oh, I love posts like these. They are all over the place and go from one extreme to the next, it’s awesome to see the thought process at work. Let me use your own techniques against you, padawan.
You see, the Halloween event was like, you know a flower. It was nice, and people were like, ooOOoo this is cool. But this Lost Shores event.. its like “New Scenarios Featuring Chuck Norris Roundhouse Kicking Dragons In The Face And Precursors Are Flying Everywhere Brother And The Devs Are Leveling Everyone To Insta-80!!” Omg Omg to much to much. They have gone to far. It’s to kitten extreme!
It’s way to far to the other side. It’s just to much. 3 hours events and your putting these high value items in the chest? Its not the happy medium. It’s the complete opposite.
There is a word for making an argument sound silly by devolving it into ridiculous examples. When i find that word again, I’m gonna be kind of the internets.

Loosifah.4739:

Did you not see them actually make a post about those who didn’t get to loot the chest at the end? They said they were working on getting everyone their rewards.

Yes I saw that. I have read it many times tonight. And that’s awesome that they are doing that. But, call me skeptical, I don’t see them giving everyone who missed out on the chest the exact same opportunity or chance at loot as everyone else. I see a poor excuse for a consolatory gift to make amends.

Loosifah.4739:

God will people never stop complaining? I didn’t get a pre-cursor weapon(and I died more during that event than the whole time I’ve played GW2). You don’t see me complaining.

You got an exotic 20 slot bag, you got an earring with almost every stat on it, and a few random exotics. Can’t you people just be happy with what you DID get?

Ummmm, No? Because A lot of “us people” didn’t even get a chance to participate in the event. You actually got to loot the mythical Chest Beast. You got a 20 slot bag, and an awesome trinket, you got exotics. I got a repair bill due to crappy mechanics paired with insane lag. This was after I went to the forums and hunted down an overflow server just to get in shut off with 15 minutes to go.
Which, by the way, the most awesome support I ever got from a forum, was the people that helped everyone out with names and invites to overflow servers. Thanks again for the opportunity.

Gato.1628:

From reading OP one could get the imression that everyone that were at the event got precursor weap. With is ludicrious ( sorry but it is . Where is my 250$ !!!!) . Or me , my guild , my friends are blind and cant find ours in inventory.
True the chest was giving guarantee two exotic items. But it not equal to 100% precursor.

Anyway sorry for some ppl to miss on this event , but there are many more to come in not so distance future , so my advise , just be patiance.
Cheers

You could get that impression from my post… if you didn’t bother to read it. I’ll even summarize it:
- Dusk has in game value of 20,000 gems which is $250.
- What could you get with 20,000 gems. listed some examples..
- Explained how I got $250. ok..
- Explained why it was irresponsible to put such a high value item in this paticular event.
- And a last part about the average player.

I’m sorry, no where in my original post did I give the impression that Oprah came to the Lost Shores and started giving out precursors.
Cheers

Quin.8327:

So if I understand correctly:
- Some people had time to play the event
- Some people that played got uber uber uber loot
- Most people that played got something nice
- Some people that didn’t get uber uber uber loot are jealous
- Some people that didn’t get to play the event feel left out
Correct?

Sounds like kids being jealous cause the neighboor kids got bigger gifts from Santa.

Well if I wanted to explain it to my 5 year old daughter, and use restrictive words that make it sound extremely condescending, and only give points on my half of the story to make myself look good, and witty (oh we love witty on the interwebz) than sure, what the hell. You got 50% of the summary of the event down. Even by Florida standards, you just failed.

Agenteusa.6380:

Stormy.3519:

@ Agenteusa.6380

My last post of the night before I crash.
- Dude, read my flipping first post. I’m not pissed because the items were good. I’m pissed because such a high value item should not just be thrown into a game so recklessly, without giving everyone a fair chance at it. That’s a 20,000 gem lotto they just had earlier tonight, and a lot of people picked the winning numbers. High end content is there for everyone. Farming mobs endlessly is there for everyone. This event is gone. One time, and that’s it, and it wasn’t even held for very long.
- And let me give you an example you can understand. You think 3 hours of effort is enough to deserve these items? Now that is some self entitlement. People have been grinding and farming for months, just to have some event like this give away the items they have been working for. That’s a slap in the face. I personally think a 20 slot bag, a kitten good trinket, and even some rares to boot would of been more than enough. Hell, throw some gold on top of that too. Its still more loot / gold than most people are going to make in 3 hours.
- Let me assure you, that even if I ran this event, and didn’t get a single item (if i even managed to finish it without the server crashing on me) I would still be upset about the many other things wrong with the event. Do you still think this event was good? Read almost every other forum post besides mine. There are a dozen legitimate reasons this event wasn’t up to par.

1 – They did give a fair chance at everyone of getting it (asides from the technical issues of servers being located only in one timezone and the DC’s which we covered already and you know my opinion). You just had to log in and 20 pm GMT and fight for 3 hours and hope RNG was good to you. That’s it.

2 – No , and I never said it would entitle me to anything. I didn’t know what I was going to get. I just did the event in the hopes of getting something nice and different since it was one time and unique. I would be kind of let off if I did get 2 blues in the end I assume that though.

3- You also know my opinion on this. No, I think the event sucked and was boring to hell. But that has nothing to do with the discussion. I will say again that they should give the chest to people that played TILL THE END and got a dc or something like 30 mins before the end of the event. If someone logged on, killed karka’s for five minutes and then chose to log off on his own will, well bad choice.

Number 1 – No, they did not. A fair chance would be a 24 hour period of the event going on every 3 hours. Plenty of time for a lot more people to participate. Will everyone get a chance? No, but one solid 24 hour period for an event is where I can comfortably draw the line and say they tried to please the masses. And the technical issues were half of the problems in the first place.

Number 2 – The rewards for that event were way to much. We can argue this, but we are never going to get straight up percentages from A-Net on drops. Just from forums and word of posts and stat tracking sites, its already coming close to something crazy like a 10% drop rate, but even I cant believe they would put it that high.

Number 3 – We both agree on that. I just wish that so many more people could of experienced this event. It had potential. It could of been a lot greater. But they want to keep it a 1 time event, so we’ll never see it again anywho.

@ Agenteusa.6380

My last post of the night before I crash.
- Dude, read my flipping first post. I’m not pissed because the items were good. I’m pissed because such a high value item should not just be thrown into a game so recklessly, without giving everyone a fair chance at it. That’s a 20,000 gem lotto they just had earlier tonight, and a lot of people picked the winning numbers. High end content is there for everyone. Farming mobs endlessly is there for everyone. This event is gone. One time, and that’s it, and it wasn’t even held for very long.
- And let me give you an example you can understand. You think 3 hours of effort is enough to deserve these items? Now that is some self entitlement. People have been grinding and farming for months, just to have some event like this give away the items they have been working for. That’s a slap in the face. I personally think a 20 slot bag, a kitten good trinket, and even some rares to boot would of been more than enough. Hell, throw some gold on top of that too. Its still more loot / gold than most people are going to make in 3 hours.
- Let me assure you, that even if I ran this event, and didn’t get a single item (if i even managed to finish it without the server crashing on me) I would still be upset about the many other things wrong with the event. Do you still think this event was good? Read almost every other forum post besides mine. There are a dozen legitimate reasons this event wasn’t up to par.

Antisceptic.9174:

I agree with the original poster, this was a terrible idea in my eyes made only worse by the fact that so many people wanted to participate but couldn’t or got booted while participating [myself included].

That sucks you couldn’t get into the content either. I personally was in the “I went to the forums, looked for invites to overflow servers, and get in late on the event” crowd. I spammed like crazy at every invite name for 30 minutes, ran through the poorly executed content… with mechanics that still leave me wondering why they hate us so much… just to get booted 15 minutes before the end. Anyone in that position would be frustrated. And to put such a high value item into an event like that… madness.
This event and content has the potential to be really good! People would appreciate the extra effort to have this event again with everything polished up.

Agenteusa.6380:

I still don’t understand what people can´t understand about ONE TIME EVENT AND UNIQUE.

Supermarkets do it all the time. Hey if you can´t go because you are busy with <INSERT HERE> I’m sorry but it’s really tough luck. You knew it was going to happen and I bet most didn’t give a crap thinking the rewards would be kitten but now they see the outcome and suddenly everyone feels like whining.

And I also bet if most of us got 2 blues and one green at the end most would be laughing at the ones that spent 2.5-3 excruciating (yes it felt like it from a certain point but i kept the word UNIQUE in my mind) hours killing karkas.

So in the spirit of the last poster that mentioned my earlier post I do have a RL and I can only play at night and when I can´t log to do X or Y I don’t turn into a Primma Donna feeling almost like my civil rights were taken from me.

I think “Well, tough luck , I´ll make it next time hopefully” and move on.

It must be nice that you can just except it. I however cant just except it. Its a rubbish game design (1 time events), with a poorly executed event, that even warranted a Mod response on what happens if you get disconnected. I guess those people should just suck it up too? Sorry you didn’t loot the chest because you disconnected, better luck next time? Or sorry we only made the event last a short period of time. There isn’t a reason why we cant make it last longer. We just want it to be UNIQUE and SPECIAL and let all the newly developed game material
be used ONCE and that’s it. What a waste of talent and material.
Even if you got crap from the event, you still at least got to experience it. Hell, I would even say that a 20 slot bag and awesome trinket alone would be worth it. But out of nowhere, they throw in these crazy valuable items, and not even give everyone a shot at it? Please tell me how that is catering to your customers your suppose to be making happy so that they spend money in game.

SadieDeAtreia.8912:

OP, excellent post. 100% agreed and I’m glad you feel better.

I bet you’ll feel like a million dollars if Anet:
Perma-ban everyone who ran the event more than once. They have the logs…
Sacks the idiot who thought dropping precursors in a one time event is a good idea. Or if they want to continue along this path:
Schedule the next one-time, legendary precursor dropping event in Oceanic prime time.

That would make me feel better.

Haha, I cant tell if your trolling.. or…
Seriously though, I remember people doing something similar in WoW when the Looking for Raid system was introduced. High end guilds ran content many times and looted bosses many times that were supposed to only be looted once. That reminds me of this, and those people were temp-banned and loot-stripped. Just saying.

If they were looking for a way to introduce more precursors into the game, there are better ways of doing it. And the whole 1 time event thing… I just don’t like the idea behind it, and a lot of other people don’t either. I am all about an equal chance for all players of this game to get in on events like this, and have a fair shake at high end loot. If they don’t get any good loot at all, that’s that. People on here seem to think I want everyone to just be given legendaries. Not true at all, not at all. I want everyone to be given the same opportunities to have a go at this event, chest and all.

rodpulsar.1948:

Stormy : I can’t agree more with you, and that for all debated points. Nothing to add, just wanted you to know. And thanks for that easy reading post, calm, and with useful precision when you answer ppl arguments. (I am french so I need constructed posts to fully understand) – Rod

Merci Rod! Viva la révolution Guild Wars 2!

I know alot of other people who would have nice posts to… if they were given the chance to run this event, or if they could of actually looted the chest at the end.
The event was awesome. It’s execution, not so much.

Agenteusa.6380:

And, that in game items worth Much Much more than what an average player makes in a month should not be handled with such whimsy.

And they are not, I had to work for them. Halfway through the event lots and lots of people were inactive which impossibilitated me in the end of redoing it with another lvl 80 char. And guess what they got the rewards at the end.

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Stormy – They were handled with whimsy, and i like that word, so i used it instead of like a worthless piece of ingame pixels. You dont just give out named exotics for an in game event. Its crazy. People made it hard for you, and that sucks that people would be that crappy towards other players. But, the loot chances were still higher across the board, and available to many many more people than usual. The event was bugged, handled poorly, and was mind numbingly frustrating to get through, but it was publicized, and advertised. It was just available for to short a time.******

“And it’s not like named and precursors were “handed out” to people. They were on an RNG loot table like everything else in this game. Just an higher chance loot table. It’s not like everyone got precursors. Hey I got one and was a cheap one anyway and I’m not going to go berserk over people that got 2 precursors."

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Stormy – Its right there man, “just a higher chance loot table”. I don’t have the facts, i don’t have the tables, but what i do have is the in game value of named exotics dropping, dropping, dropping, across the board. And, the fact that this event was open to a bigger spectrum of casual players who don’t normally participate in high end game content, where precursors of such value lurk, which means way more people got them in a very short amount of time.******

but due to poor planning

The only poor plannign was the fact they didn’t instance the event. They said it was going to be UNIQUE and they said it 3 weeks in advance if not more. And since these are one location servers they did it during the day that most people are at home. That was good planning to me. Yes it sucks they can’t do it in different timezones but well that’s a technical limitation they have.

Stormy – One time events in general are a bad idea. It’s insane when you think about it. Why create that content and just have it around… 1 time? It was a good event, and it can be made a lot better. But at least make it last longer, and if your worried about exploiting chests and running them again and again, limit the times you can open the chest. Your not going to make everyone happy. But kitten you gonna make a whole lot more happy then what you have now.

Agenteusa.6380:

@OP

And what do you want ANet to do? Send everyone a personal email every 5 minutes to make sure you don’t have to go to the doctor and can’t make the event?

Seriously dude, I don’t mean to be rude but you should at least try to follow some common sense. People know when the event is going to be for weeks prior. It’s you that has to adjust to the their schedule not ANet to every single one of our schedules.

I agree though they should have a way of identifying who participated in the last phase and didn’t get the chest due to server problems.

But for people that couldn’t attend due to RL issues I’m sorry it’s just nonsense.

I would propose that “ANet” make this event available for a much longer period of time, and allow everyone 1 shot at the chest. Even stretching it to 24 hours would of allowed a MUCH larger percentage of people to enjoy this content, and yes, have a chance at a fat payout or a few weeks / months shaved off of grinding for an exotic for their legendary. This is done as standard in other MMO’s.
You say RL issues? Its called having a life. I’m not saying this to disrespect you by any means. You could be awesome sauce with everything squared away. But man, just having to go to dinner with your family… having a fussy baby that doesn’t want to go to sleep, but hang out for a few more hours… doing your homework… these are not RL issues, its just Real Life.

And hell yes dude, everyone who did participate and didn’t get a chest should be compensated (that’s the word i wanted earlier! crud) because they did put in the effort. I just hope its something worthwhile, and not just a "sorry bro.. here is some black lion mining picks.. meh).

RoRo.8270:

Stormy.3519:

BiJay.9830:

Well, people already got precursors before the event if they were lucky, so what’s exactly the point?

The point is that people can go out and farm dungeons, chests, and all other in game places that precursors drop any time they want. This event was a 1 time thing. A fair chance was not given to every customer of the game. No, you cant make everyone happy, but there are alot of other ways you can run an event so that maximum participation can be achieved.

You fail to realise the % change between the chest dropping a precursor and going out and farming

Enlighten me with facts and sources if you please. I’ll be up for another hour or so until I go defend the South Korean border some more.
My point is that this event was not available to all. It was open to a much larger bracket of casual players and veterans alike, but due to poor planning and in game technical difficulties, they did not get that chance.

Kaellok.8143:

Whine whine whine. This is the extent of your post. You didn’t get a precursor (neither did I), cry some more.

Oh, I didn’t see your little post. Let me address it. I didn’t get to run the in game event due to technical difficulties which were not in anyway my fault. I didn’t get a shot at any precursors. And neither did a lot of other people. A LOT friend. This post is for the hard working dads who play this game to relax and not to grind out gold piece after gold piece. For the Mums who wanted to relax in their favorite game world and beat some crab kitten I believe they all deserve an equal chance at this content. And, that in game items worth Much Much more than what an average player makes in a month should not be handled with such whimsy.

Jena.7364:

yes i understand what you are saying, but if you did not get it this time (i did not either) theres always next event and mobs in game. I know someone who got a precursor from the Broodmother in cursed shore and that does not take much people or time to kill.

Conveniences for those who need it, but not for everyone. At this moment, the legendary does no more damage than the exotic greatsword I can craft in game.

If its the skin u like, ANet should really put some nice glowing skins in the gem store, so we can have more choice. In several months, the whole game will be flooded with people holding legendary weapons. It wont be so special anymore.

**As I have just read on this forum, alot of people looted the event chest several times with different characters which is absolutely ridiculous since others could not even get on due to lag issues.

I thank you for coming back with a less hostile post I take back every bad thing I ever said about you

- Not everyone had the chance to run this event. Yes, they can go and kill hundreds of Brood Mothers, go farm game content endlessly. But, this event was a one time thing, with a good chance at a big payout. It should of been handled better. That’s my main gripe, along with the seemingly carelessness of the handling of loot in regards to in game value and currencies / worth.

- My point with conveniences is that these super high value items worth a lot came out of no where. No one expected so many to drop. This is in part due to the large number of people who participated in a much friendly and zerglier version of a high end game dungeon or loot run. A lot of people got them, RNG or not. And, in relation to in game currencies, these items are worth a lot of gems. And gems = convenience. Also, I know a lot dropped because I am looking at the Black Lion Trading Company and across the board, exotics are dropping in gold value. People are listing them and undercutting by dozens of gold instead of just coppers and silvers. Sane people who grinded and saved and worked for exotics don’t do that. People who just robbed the Arena Net store in the mall do this.

- I have no doubt that eventually lots and lots of people will have legendaries. And eventually they wont be so special, but the standard. This event will only speed that process along.

- And also, I completely despise the people who saw this opportunity to take advantage of the system and run the event multiple times. Can I blame them? Not really. They saw an opportunity and went for it. Could the overflow servers kept running longer if people weren’t abusing the system and running it multiple times, and instead only the people who hadn’t had the chance to run the event do it? Well, that’s a whole nother issue entirely.

Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625:

Stormy.3519:

udoh.5307:

I would have to agree, All the blogs from ANet before the game was released, always said that they would give tokens that could be exchanged for armor/weapons, I know that was from dungeons, but this was a big mistake giving some people weapons worth that much money.

This was mentioned before, and I personally think it would have worked better. A token system would have been much smoother than handing out precursors worth SO much. I know I cant convince anyone with a shiny new precursor sitting in their bank this. But, there are better ways to increase the availability of these items then simply… “You get one! You get one! Everybody gets one! -Oprah”

Nice runback to the start of this thread, and honestly I still don’t get it. What does it matter if you get the rng at karka chest or at the token reward chest? What does it matter that this token chest contains only named exotics, as Zoid explained? Rng is still there. Not to mention many named exotics aren’t even worth much. Zommoros got me a hammer with +condition damage the other day. No wonder I can only get about 1g for it. Only if you get rid of rng things could be ‘fair’. But I’m not expecting that in this game, or any other game, any time soon.
It is unfair however to get nothing if you participated 3 hours only to disconnect near the end.

The main point is everyone should be given a better executed event with the chance to take a swing at this golden pinata.
Also, when you make in game currency available for a $ amount, and you have in game items that can be assigned an in game currency amount, you cannot simply give out that item recklessly as we saw with this event. Yes, there was a chance (RNG) to get an extremely valuable item worth $250 in game currency. In game currency, i agree with you. This chance was not given to everyone. Even if you get complete crap, and a 20 slot bag, you still got a chance.
Also, just like you said, getting rid of the RNG would be fair. Thus i agreed with the token system. Its a cool system. You get something that will always be good for you. Maybe not better, but still in one way or another, usable by you. Not everyone will agree, because some people still like that chance, that gamble at in game phat stank tubular lootz.
And kitten those disconnects where people made an honest effort to complete the event. I hope they get something more than a trinket. They deserve the same chance everyone else got.

Jena.7364:

Firstly, if I did get the Dusk or any other Precursor from the chest, I would not sell it because it is so rare I would definitely use it for one of my characters. I plan to play all professions anyway.

Secondly, I do not sell gold nor do I buy gems to convert to gold in this game. So no matter your calculation, it means absolutely nothing. To this date there is nothing in this gem store that appeals to me that I cannot get in game. It is not even hard to farm gold in game and convert to gems if you really wanted something.

So what if you have 200gold in game? it makes no difference whatsoever. What you get in game stays in the game and will be spent in the game. It benefits you nothing IRL. Does it really mean that much to you to tell people “Wow, I have 200 gold in my Guild Wars 2 game account”

Get over it already!

Dude, dude. Your the person I am talking about. Your posting to rage and show how leet you are. Let me shoot down some knowledge.
1. You wouldn’t plan on selling it. Great, i’m happy you would have just cut out a huge amount of time on getting a legendary. I really am. Those things are awesome and I hope you do get once and wreck some royal kitten with it. I’m talking about the in game value of the item.
2. Yes, my calculations mean something. They mean this item is worth $250 in in game gems. Proven through simple math and the gem store / B.L.T.C.
3. It benefits you greatly IRL! Are you kidding me! Look at all the things you can get with gems in this game! XP boosts, craft boosts, black lion keys, items. All have a direct in game effect in the game. These things are conveniences. People pay for convenience in game. You pay for convenience every time you go to the auction house instead of going out and farming it.
This post is to show how crazy it was to give these incredibly rare and valuable items out seemingly completely random for this in game event. No one saw this coming.

Jaric.5679:

Stormy.3519:

Thaiden.3487:

We wanted to be a part of the content for whatever reason and couldn’t during ‘X to X’ time and are now many of us feel handicapped because of the miss out on rewards.

Bingo. Even if you don’t care about the loot, or the profit you could make off of it, people still missed out on an in game event. This seems ridiculous to me! Why would you go through all the development time, process of making this content… just to run through it once? Sure, don’t offer up the chest after each and every clear. Just once is enough. I think everyone can agree that’s fair. But at least make this available to the largest group of people possible.

On that note they should have done the final event 24 hours earlier. Then no matter what time zone you were in, it would be on the weekend. While that’s not a complete solution (4am or thereabouts is just not possible for some people to be awake for) it’s better than what they did do. It was 8am on Monday for me when it started, I work for a living.

I still think the best option is to have it as a 3 hourly recurring event over a 24 hour period, just like GW1. And limit the chest to being available once per account rather than character, to prevent farming.

You, me, and just about everyone else playing this game my friend. Especially your last 2 sentences. It just irks me like no other that it wasn’t handled this way. Give someone a whole DAY to get in on this event… not just a 1 time hit it and quit it.

udoh.5307:

I would have to agree, All the blogs from ANet before the game was released, always said that they would give tokens that could be exchanged for armor/weapons, I know that was from dungeons, but this was a big mistake giving some people weapons worth that much money.

This was mentioned before, and I personally think it would have worked better. A token system would have been much smoother than handing out precursors worth SO much. I know I cant convince anyone with a shiny new precursor sitting in their bank this. But, there are better ways to increase the availability of these items then simply… “You get one! You get one! Everybody gets one! -Oprah”

Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625:

Stormy.3519:

Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625:

^ What does that do other than delay the rng?

The entire $250 argument would only be convincing if you could swap your gems for real $. Which would be absolutely ludicrous and hilarious.

You can make the $250 argument, because you can assign a real world money value to this possible drop from the Lost Shores event chest. No, you cant sell it, but you can sell it and get $250 of in game currency.

The rng argument is there, but calling $250 instead of a precursor’s worth in ingame gold is an obvious attempt at appealing to emotion.
For the record, rng-argument doesn’t particularly convince me either. There’s people with good luck and there’s people with bad luck. Rng at Zommoros, rng at Ancient Karka chest, rng everywhere. Get over it. In any case: more precursors in the game means they get cheaper thus more accessible. Everyone wins, some just more than others.

Believe what you want about RNG, a lot of people got extremely good items out of this event. Not everyone had the same chance to participate. I am not in the “I didn’t get the loot I wanted I jsut got crap” crowd. I am in the “I didn’t get to participate in this event at all, and when I finally got into an overflow server, it shut down on me” crowd.
I already mentioned that you cannot sell this item for $250, but it is still very much worth $250 of in game currency, and that not everyone, not even by a long shot, got a fair shake at this golden pinata.

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Hmm this post sort of addresses two issues:

a) the relatively insane value of some items, mainly precursors
b) the way one-time events award loot"

“In the end, I think the real issue here is the magnitude of the rewards and the fact that precursors dominate everything else in terms of value by an extremely large margin. This will be addressed though…”

“Finally, as also noted above, including real world currency in this discussion isn’t really helpful as you can’t convert gold to dollars through proper means.

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I agree with you whole heartily on your post. The drops were totally out of left field and no one expected to see these in their loot. Also, the magnitude of the rewards is borderline silly when given out randomly in a 1 time event.

Now i will agree that I cant go out and sell my new “Dusk” for $250, but I will still argue that it is worth $250 of in game currency.

Thaiden.3487:

We wanted to be a part of the content for whatever reason and couldn’t during ‘X to X’ time and are now many of us feel handicapped because of the miss out on rewards.

Bingo. Even if you don’t care about the loot, or the profit you could make off of it, people still missed out on an in game event. This seems ridiculous to me! Why would you go through all the development time, process of making this content… just to run through it once? Sure, don’t offer up the chest after each and every clear. Just once is enough. I think everyone can agree that’s fair. But at least make this available to the largest group of people possible.

BiJay.9830:

Well, people already got precursors before the event if they were lucky, so what’s exactly the point?

The point is that people can go out and farm dungeons, chests, and all other in game places that precursors drop any time they want. This event was a 1 time thing. A fair chance was not given to every customer of the game. No, you cant make everyone happy, but there are alot of other ways you can run an event so that maximum participation can be achieved.

Doctor Orderly MD PhD DDS.7625:

^ What does that do other than delay the rng?

The entire $250 argument would only be convincing if you could swap your gems for real $. Which would be absolutely ludicrous and hilarious.

You can make the $250 argument, because you can assign a real world money value to this possible drop from the Lost Shores event chest. No, you cant sell it, but you can sell it and get $250 of in game currency.

Whenever you offer in game currency (gems) for real money, you give in game items real world value. Dusk, a precursor drop from the Lost Shores event, through gem value and “Black Lion Trading Company” prices, is worth $250.
Lets say you loot the infamous “Dusk”. It is currently selling at 260g (gold) on the B.L.T.C. in game. I will be generous, knock 60g off for the rather expected market flood of precursors, and set it at 200g even.
Now, gem value is always in flux, but the AVERAGE right now for 100 gems in game is 1g (gold). At that average price, you can buy 20,000 gems for 200g. 20,000 gems… what can you buy in game for gems you ask?
Character Slot Expansion – 800 gems
Experience, Glory, Karma, Crafting, Magic Find Boosts – 75 – 150 gems each
Every single Style item in the Gem shop – 4950 gems
Mystic Forge Stone – 5 for 250 gems
Mini 3-Pack – 300 gems
Additional Bag Slot – 400 gems
The Digital Deluxe Guild Wars 2 Upgrade! – 2000 gems
Bank slots, black lion keys, Dyes dyes and more dyes, transmutation stones, revive orbs, etc etc…
Finally, how did I get $250? For the in game gem store, you can buy gems for real world money.
4000 gems = $50.
4000 × 5 = 20,000 (our total gem worth for Dusk).
$50 × 5 = $250
So, for an in game event that not everyone was able to complete due to game crashes, server issues, or even log into at all due to real world obligations, you include a $250 item as a possible drop from the chest at the end of the event.
This, my fellow forum dwellers, is why I am upset with this debacle. Yes you can say “Well no one would spend $250 on a PRECURSOR!!” I can both agree and disagree. What I am saying is that this one item, is worth $250 in gems from the in game store. And yes, people can and will, though not necessarily all at once, pay $250 for in game gems.
One final thought on this (if you read this far). Think of how long it takes the AVERAGE player to farm 200 gold… the average player, Mr. Leetsauce dating my mother who can farm 200 gold in one night, not you. This possible drop, just the possibility of it dropping from a chest at the end of an event that a LARGE number of people could not attend, is worth so much time and effort that many people do not wish to put into a game JUST making gold, instead of playing it.
I would appreciate a chance at that chest GREATLY. I sincerely hope Area Net decides to run this event again for players who did not get a chance to attend.
Feel free to delete this post mods. I feel better already.

“We’ve updated the game for routine maintenance only. No content changes were included.”
You sit on a throne of lies A-net… LIES!!!!

I only got to see (and get disconnected from via patch update in the last 20 minutes of the event….) this content / event because of the awesome players helping each other out on these forums. I did the same as the OP, but sadly didn’t get to finish the event.

I thought it was awesome that the playerbase on these forums were doing more to get people into the event then A-net did. awesome players. disappointing move on your part A-net

Absolutionis.9427:

New build killed all hope.

Oh Man I was there! The chest Hustle!!! to bad i didn’t even get to complete the event once.

gotta say tried like crazy to get into one of these overflow servers, just because I was working during the one and only time the event was up. Almost completed the event just to have the game reset with 15 minutes to go… Those overflow servers allowed alot of people to do the event, even when A-net had no plans to make the event available anymore… dissapointed