Forgot to mention this is for solo or smalllll group roaming in WvW
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Bouncing ideas back and forth and was wondering if these ideas might work, or if I am seriously killing my damage output. I am terrible at math, so I was hoping someone might be able to help. I know I know ‘check out the other threads’… which i have, but i couldn’t find the answers i was looking for. I am used to running a burst/sniper D/D build, but I got bored of it and like the idea of s/d with all the dodges and evades. I don’t want to hit like a wet noodle tho, which is kinda what i had been doing once i switched builds. After some thoughts and tinkering i have a few ideas i’d like to bounce around and hopefully yall seasoned vets and mathmaticians can help me out? The idea behind the build (which I lay no claim to, or think is original or anything) is taking advantage of might and fury to buff my damage output, while increasing survivability with dodges. I am using might on dodge with feline grace, and the nourishment that gives might on dodge and 40% endurance refill to stack some might to make up for lack of power that i’m so used to with d/d. I was wanting to go 5 deep into SA so that i could get 2 stacks of might from stealth too, but felt like i couldn’t take away from anywhere else to make it worth it. The fury i will gain from Thrill of the Crime, Furious Retaliation and Runes of Rage. So the dilema I am having is this: do I aim for really high crit % and ferocity and not worry as much about power? The reason i went with runes of rage was for the 20% added fury uptime, ferocity and damage. Should I be looking at using runes of strength instead, for the might stacking? Pack runes for the power, precision, fury and swiftness? And then there are sigils… i like fire and air for the added burst potential, and a high crit rate will help proc them, but what about say….. sigil of strength for added might every couple seconds? Sigil of Cruelty for added ferocity?
Any thoughts, helpful tidbits?
Oh and here is my current build….
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZEQNAsYVl0Mp0pNOx7J0PRRPBtVA4KDe/kmMlOrxaB-TlBEwAGOFA62fUiwU5BL1fAcEAI8AAIDQ1CA-w
I wish you the best! I’ve got to duel once before and I learned a whole lot about it. I’m still a horrible thief tho lol. Always up for a friendly duel tho, good luck to you, and kill em dead!
I use Sigil of Ice on my S/P build and it works out very well — most of the time.
That’s a neat idea too! And even not just for Pistol Whip its still nice to slow your opponent down
Possibly mesmer runes to get another 33% from daze. This may be just enough to get in the final hit unless they dodge. The duration will not be long enough, but they can only move so fast…
I’m wondering if by the time I do runes and sigils if I’ll be making the rest of myself weaker and putting too much stock into pistol whip? Not sure…. either way you’re giving me something to think about, so thank you for your advice!
Few things on the build you posted.
1. If you’re running full zerker and find yourself running more than fighting, its probably one of your top issues. Full zerker on a thief leaves little room for error, and being a “noob” as you say makes learning the play style much more difficult. Mix in some valkryie gear, you will maintain the crit damage (or ferocity) and power, with a small loss in precision but a nice bump in vitality. I’d throw in a chest and leg piece for valk or an amulet and rings or earrings, not too much to where you lose any hope of critical hits but enough where you see some bonus to vitality. Another alternative would be swapping one of your traits in critical strikes to practiced tolerance to turn some of that precision into vitality which in your case, is a lot (126 vitality or 1260 health).
2. No rune selected, no sigils and no sb. Rune/sigils is probably just a little mistake, I’m sure you’re not actually running without those but it would help to know as far as giving you a suggestion on which to choose. However the sb is a good helper especially if you like poking at zergs without being on the frontline. The aa and the poison field work great but you have to be aware of 2 very important things; where the enemy train is heading and where the enemy backline is. If you have good awareness of your surroundings then you’re in good shape.
3. No foods, no oils/stones. Since you wvw, you have to get into the habit of having these. I personally hate being put on an arms race with it but it does make a big difference. There are a ton of foods to choose from, and some could work really well in your case such as orrian truffle meat stew (passive endurance regen + might on dodge), or carrot soufflé (power on kill, critical damage). Again this could just me a slight error and you haven’t posted it, but idk. If you go into pvp to hone your skills in there is no foods so probably best to try it there with less factors to take into account.
Outside of that it’s just learning a rotation to fire off your skills without spamming them because that leads to easy to counter behavior which is one of the lovely aspects of thief, little room for mistakes especially on a stealth-less build.
Thanks for the response!
I agree, I shouldn’t be running full zerk, especially since I am still making so many errors. Valk only loses out on precision, I see what you’re saying…. gain some vitality and lose a lil precision. I think that would be a fair trade, let me take a few extra hits before getting toasted haha.
I guess I forgot to select the shortbow, my bad lol. But as far as runes and sigils go- I don’t have any at the moment. Ive been buying exotics as I earn the gold, and haven’t earned enough to buy runes yet. I’m not even 100% sure what runes I want to use to be honest. Was thinking about scholor or strength, but I am not very good at doing the calculations so it just becomes guess work for me. And the sigils I was thinking about Air and Fire, only because I’ve seen other people talking about how it works well with bursts. I don’t even know how much damage a lightning strike does tho lol
thank you for your input, I like to get as much info as I can so I can make my own build and playstyle that works for me
Well the main reason why the stun doesn’t last that long is to give the person a chance at getting out of the way of it. Otherwise that would be op to just spam and make them waste all of their stun breaks…
That makes a lot of sense So I’m wondering if that extra 30% stun duration would make it last long enough to get that final thrust in… hmmm…. I think i’ll just try it out in game and see what happens lol. Thank you for replying to me
Pvp for sure. If you can survive and land kills there, you can do it anywhere.
Most of what makes a good thief is really two things, being able to read telegraphs from your opponents, and dodging. If you can avoid the damage, you prolong your death.
This is why a lot of the top top players still run d/d, for death blossom. It’s an extra dodge versus a hammer warrior ect.
Secondly, knowing what you can and can’t do with your initiative. Being able to know how much you’ve used without looking,
These two things, will set you on the right path.
Sweet! Thank you for the tips I guess it wouldn’t hurt to roll some different classes into pvp myself and see their mechanics, since i’m not sure what animations other classes make while they are attacking- so I don’t know what to look for to dodge lol
I’m definitely not a pro but sounds like the style of play I’m trying to go for too. I compliment you on not using a stealth build. I’ve purposely tried to not use stealth myself.
I’ve been messing around with builds and I tried a signet build. And I found that I died a lot too. The healing signet sounds good but it really doesn’t heal for that much and that long cast time is horrible – it got me killed more times than I can count.
I switched to Withdraw as the healing skill and added Roll for Initiative. So much better. Especially in the duck in and out play.
I also didn’t like pistol whip. I can’t stand that it roots me. But that may be just my own issue.
I’m just in the beginning stages of the signet build really… only fought a couple times like that… never 1v1, always in a group setting. The might sure did help me tho. You’re right about the cast time for the heal. I use to run with Withdraw and Roll for initiative too- it was two more stun breaks, and evades, and heal and initiative- I really liked it. Only reason I ditched em was to try this signet build. Pistol whip is something I believe takes practice- as long as u manage to get a tiny stun in there first (either from steal, or the #2 skill, or basilisk venom- then you’ve got a much better chance of not just standing there swinging into the air haha.
Lemme know if u find something that works well with you, maybe its something I haven’t tried yet I appreciate your feedback, thank you!
Just trying to figure out ways of improving my damage (aren’t most of us lol)
I am currently using S/P and it seems the biggest dealer of damage is Pistol Whip. One of the problems I am finding is that the stun duration is for 1/2 second which doesn’t seem to be enough time to deal the final sword thrust that has the most damage… is that right?
I was wondering what your thoughts were about using a superior sigil of peralyzation (however its spelled lol). Giving 30% more stun duration and hopefully landing that last hit?
Or is it a waste to use that sigil, and better to use fire or air or force etc? Was thinking of using something like a sigil of force for the pistol and paralization for the sword?
I haven’t found any other post about this or I wouldn’t be wasting yall’s time with something as silly as this
Thanks for any help I can get (I need it bad haha)
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I suggest you move to the guild recruitment forum, there’s bound to be a guild from Devona’s Rest recruiting there
I hadn’t noticed the guilds section in the forum area until you said something, whoops! Thank you.
Thank you very much Donari. I’m getting a better grasp on the whole crafting and rune things now. And it looks like its time to experiment in the discovery window!
Eventually I’m going to have to figure out the Trading Post, I’ll search some other threads to see if other noobs have asked questions I can check. I really appreciate your input. Thanks.