Ow right, their trap I totally forget about it since noone is using it. Well, their shout should reveal us then :P
“On My Mark!”: This skill now applies revealed for 4 seconds in addition to vulnerability.
Is this a joke? Why only 4s tho? Should be 6s like sick em. I didnt tested it but im sure we cant even dodge it and its insta cast so there is no counterplay to it, as usual.
I suggest to give reveal to dragonhunters as well in the next patch. Or just give it to everyone. Its definetly well designed, anet. You are keep destroying our class and Im not even surprised.
Terissimo, I get stuck more often than not, against druids roots when I use your build. Withdraw isn’t as practical imo. What do you think?
Also, I feel like blinding powder seems a little more practical than bandit’s defense. I am saying because that along with Shadowstep and Improvisation, it can work miracles.
Against druids I recommend full physical with dash. Im in love with bandit defence so there is no way I will ever use something else :P
More stealth uptime, 10% more dmg, awesome cleave with dodges on downed people and I can also use my dodges offensively without taking any dmg. Its just much harder to take me down when Im outnumbered. With dash all I can do is run away :P It also depends which healing skill Im using. If its channeled vigor Im always taking dash for clear immob/cripple/chill. With withdraw traited I can easily go for bound.
My first commentary roaming video, I hope you gonna enjoy it.
https://youtu.be/NQ2vJ52pBiU
This should help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS4rgCRwCBw
From WvW perspective worst is tooth stab obviously. I dont really like gunk and ice shard as well. Mace head crack is hard to land on guardians and is punishing me very often by activating passive traits on other classes as well. Its deadly if I menage to land it tho, 3s daze is a lot.
Best stolen skills: plasma, essence sap, healing seed (too long cooldown tho), blinding tuft, bone crack and underwater skill that can be stolen from guardian underwater, i forgot the name.
As full zerk I was dealing 7k dmg with mug so it was kinda too strong as adept trait.
Its fixed? Oh who could predict it? You should create more threads like this one. Thanks.
If this is true then all I want to say is THANK YOU to all of you who shared this on forums! Great job.
I was less dissapointed years ago after anet introduced 4s reveal to wvw. That 1s cd is like spit on our faces. It was frustrating enough to deal with all these invulns/blocks etc. Now its gonna be nightmare. I cant even imagine how much I will rage when i will try to steal stab combo but there will be no valid path to target/line of sight and i will not be able to burst cuz of this ****
Just face it, d/d will be no longer viable anymore. I gave up long time ago and the sooner you do it, the better.
A What??
I thought this Terissimo.6852 person was a decent player.
Struggling against a Ruby player is soooooooooo disappointing. =/
You should not struggle against a Ruby player.
Ruby players are very easy to kill.
But I have low rank too which makes me bad player as well. So its ok.
You forget to mention that he had lower AP than me.
A What??
I thought this Terissimo.6852 person was a decent player.
Struggling against a Ruby player is soooooooooo disappointing. =/
You should not struggle against a Ruby player.
Ruby players are very easy to kill.
But I have low rank too which makes me bad player as well. So its ok.
A guide mostly for new thieves. I hope you gonna enjoy.
https://youtu.be/QP2ShZOpyFY
Watching videos like this helped me when I first started playing. If you’re doing more, here are some suggestions:
1) Shadowshot backstab
2) Impairing daggers + backstab: casting impairing daggers in stealth from ~500+ range and starting backstab + steal before the daggers hit)
3) Shadowstep fake disengage: shadowstep away from opponent then shadow return + steal to get back to the opponent for a surprise burst and interrupt
4) Timing heartseeker to hit an engi as soon as his passive elixir S runs out
5) Blinding powder + backstab (for a faster, much less telegraphed backstab)
6) Shadow step + return safe stomp
7) Swapping to shortbow with superior sigil of speed (1s of quickness) in stealth from near 900 range. This allows thieves to fire 2 surprise shots before being revealed for double the immob.
Thanks for feedback :P There is much more but I didnt wanted to make 30 min video. I want to see if people find this useful and then maybe I will work on another one. Impairing daggers and stab I already explained in previous guide tho.
May be helpful especially for new thieves
https://youtu.be/eS4rgCRwCBw
Let me know what do you think about it.
I love your vids alot. And the music too
Knew you would come back! Could you maybe sometime post some vids on a more party scale? Would love to see that!
I will try :P You know, its hard to find a decent fight nowadays mostly cuz we are forced to roam on eb but I will do my best.
Love your vids. Seen them all.
Question: your screen colors are so vivid and look great. Are you using sweetfx or any other graphical enhancement?
No, Im editing colors in sony vegas so video just looks better after I render it.
Ha! Nice kills and it look like you had a lot of fun doing them too. Tbh I am not a fan of thers types of builds, all or nothing, and it must be annoying at times with 0 condi clear vs all of them aid builds out there.
I always liked high risk high reward :P With this mobility i can just kite for days and its not that big issue (unless condi trapper perma stealth thief appears like in vid). I have one condi clear on evade so…
No im not at their level, Im just doing what I enjoy which is wvw :P
I played some serious pvp before with a good team where I learned a lot (communication, skill calling, positioning, etc.) My role in pvp is decapping and +1, in WvW im doing the hell I want, thats why I enjoy it. Thanks for feedback tho. Keep in mind that you just sent me revenant video which is not very well balanced and Im playing teef.
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My 6th roaming vid, I hope you will enjoy it! :P
https://youtu.be/iUNtYg24T20
There it is, my 5th roaming vid. I hope you will enjoy it. :P
https://youtu.be/Cn4u8s01j7I
https://youtu.be/1E2Y1Oiltio
You are welcome XD
I would like to share my build, its fun to play so I hope you will like it :P
I’m also trying to explain how to use it:
https://youtu.be/kLFE4JKDEF8
Please don’t forget about d/d thieves. After you moved CiS into grandmaster, you killed this weaponset. We need blind to stay alive and also healing because we need to sit melee. Landing cloak and dagger is hard and risky. At this moment CnD is high risk, low reward so please add blind to it. By giving thieves option to spam dodges all day long, its just frustrating to fight against us. I dont want to dodge 8-9 times in a row but you are forcing me to do that. Im not able to play stealth build anymore due to insane reveal spam everywhere which doesnt hurt other classes that much. Tone it down or something… I would remove it to be honest, especially scrapper with F5 (20s cd aoe 6s reveal) and Lock On (25s cd 6s reveal). This is just insane what you did to us… Maybe let me disable other classes whole defensive traitlines for few seconds with 20-25s cooldown? Huh? Sounds balanced? The most frustrating thing is that if im traiting for SA and some random aoe spammer reveals me, im not even able to clear conditions, need to burn my utility which is not always ready (50s cd, removing 2 condis). Think about it anet and ask yourselves whats our role in this game? Because for now its spamming dodges like crazy and running away most of the time. Btw why do we even have 4s reveal in pvp anymore? And did you noticed that after u nerfed pistol whip noone uses it?
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That was painful to record this with all those broken builds running arround. I hope you enjoy. :P
https://youtu.be/09OY5_6Sivg
Hey everybody, sorry about this bug. The team has disabled the self style hair kits and permanent hair style contracts until a fix can be pushed to the live game. Additionally, sales of the hair kits on the gem store have been disabled until the fix is in.
Rest assured, the kit functionality will be returned to normal once the fix for this bug is live.
This is not a reason to disable it… I paid 2k gold and now im not able to use it because there is little bug? How long will I need to wait for fix? 1 week? 2? month? Thank you very much.
Even if its total trash compared to d/p now, still way more fun. Enjoy :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xuAJAOmRl4
Please don’t be scaried about the fractal trails ( or any trials); They aren’t meant to be hard.
Sry Sarah but they are meant to be hard. Harder trial = better player = better teacher. Simple. Easy trial means a lot of bads can teach others and i dont think its a good idea especially for class mentors.
Your English is not bad but it’s not obvious in the same way you think it is. A glance at the text also raises my eyebrows a bit. Reworded:
“A lot of bad players asked to become mentors”
fixed thanks
Hello, this is a new topic of the “We Teach How We Want [Noob]”
A lot of bad players asked for mentoring so if you dont know everything about your class or you are not able to solo stuff in dungeons and you dont even know boss mechanics please dont waste our time.WHO ARE WE?
We Teach How We Want [Noob] is a guild for everyone who wants to learn doing dungeons or fractals,
every skill level is accepted as long as you truly have the willingness to learn.
You don’t have to represent the guild!I just wanted to point out that you have two extremely conflicting ideals here and that the tone of the first part of this quote might be a misrepresentation of your actual intent. It comes off a bit hostile and demeaning which are not good aspects to have when you’re trying to teach players who are potentially new to dungeons.
You can’t claim to be a mentor for noobs to dungeons and then shun noobs because they don’t know how to solo dungeon content, or know every aspect of their class (especially in team play). Since a large portion of the game does not require direct play with a team or understanding team mechanics, the main introduction to working with other classes directly comes from experiencing dungeons.
I love the idea, and what you are striving to achieve, hence my reason for posting feedback on this section. A lot of people are afraid to even try because they’re afraid people will be impatient, rude, or belittle them while they are trying to learn. This can be permanently damaging and turn people off from some otherwise very rewarding content if not properly kept in check.
Unless of course this message is meant to be directed at those seeking to BE a mentor, not those seeking MENTORING.
“A lot of bad players asked for mentoring "
" for everyone who wants to learn doing dungeons"
isnt it clear?
quoting things and stuff
I have a couple days off, if you send me the current list of mentors I can talk to those still interested and update the list.
Bit too late…
I just want to make sure this isn’t highjacking someone’s elses initiative, if all is fine, all is well!
Pretty sure the old leaders have gotten burnt out and have stepped down. Though both are great people and have always been willing to help those who actually want it. Mentoring is… well, it’s draining. Getting a group of people who actually eat up what you put out is awesome, it’s great, nothing draining about that to me, but that’s a rarity. More often you get those just wanting you to carry them through some content, or that argue with you because what you suggest isn’t what they read somewhere or saw in a speed run. And, of course those that just can’t “get it” where half way through you’re both thinking “kitten , this just isn’t working.”
It’s a lot of work.
I wish I still had the energy. I made some friends that came into teaching runs with me, or that I was leading, but I just don’t have that kind of motivation anymore. I wish the new guys luck. There’s nothing wrong with a passing of the guard.
Yeah I share the same opinion and sentiment. I was a mentor too, after all. It just became too hard to push myself to do it. Three years with the same stuff doesn’t help at all.
I just hope the new guys are as knowledgeable as the previous mentors, we don’t want to see a lowering of standards do we?
You dont have to bother about EU dungeon/fotm trials, we’re not sure about NA though, but Quaggan will help trial them on NA and we trust him. I will trial arah mentors so you can be sure they will be good.
Hello, this is a new topic of the “We Teach How We Want [Noob]”
The guild has undergone some changes in organisation and we felt it’s best to keep it clean and fresh.
New guild leaders are Terissimo.6852 and Sublimatio.6981.
Sarahfull.4930 is no longer a leader but remains a fractal mentor
With the rebirth of our guild, we are forming a new mentor list.
We need more mentors. If you’re interested in being a mentor, write to one of the leaders via forum PM or in game. Unless you’re from a known speedclear guild, you’ll have to be trialed.
A lot of bad players asked to become mentors so if you dont know everything about your class or you are not able to solo stuff in dungeons and you dont even know boss mechanics please dont waste our time.
WHO ARE WE?
We Teach How We Want [Noob] is a guild for everyone who wants to learn doing dungeons or fractals,
every skill level is accepted as long as you truly have the willingness to learn.
You don’t have to represent the guild!
HOW DOES IT WORK?
To join as a student, you have to leave a post below, or PM one of the leaders here or mail in-game.
PMs in-game can be easily overlooked so we wouldn’t recommend using them to apply.
Remember to include your region (NA/EU).
Then you have to read our mentor list (available here in this thread) and choose a mentor for yourself.
PM him/her in-game and enjoy*!
* if you experience any bad behavior from a mentor or doubt his teaching skills, let us know.
REFERENCE MATERIAL:
gw2dungeons.net by Wethospu – most reliable dungeon guide, also contains speeclear records
Dulfy class guides by [rT] members – extensive guides for every class
MENTOR LIST
(click a mentor name to open a new tab with some info about the mentor)
1. Class Mentors - answers all questions about a class, helps you optimize your dps, rotations, gear and traits.
Necromancers:
- Sublimatio.6981 [rT] (EU)
- Featherpillows.6750 (NA)
Thieves:
- Terissimo.6852 [rT] (questions only!) (EU)
- FallenSentinel.6439 [DnT] (EU)/Dea.5841 (NA)
- haveageez.5349 [ION] (NA questions only&EU)
- Asherahi.6954 [Disc] (EU)
- draclyna.6407 [rT] (EU)
- Metavox.1094 (NA)
- Dommmmmmmmmm.6984 (NA)
- SlyDevil.3952 (NA)
Warriors:
- Zui.9245 [DnT] (NA&EU)
- Enko.6123 [LOD] (NA)
- haveageez.5349 [ION] (NA questions only&EU))
- ivoboon.3048 [MYST] (EU)
- draclyna.6407 [rT] (EU)
Guardians:
- Zui.9245 [DnT] (NA&EU)
- Metavox.1094 (NA)
- Dommmmmmmmmm.6984 (NA)
- SlyDevil.3952 (NA)
- Velho.7123 (NA)
Mesmers:
- Sanderinoa.8065 [rT] (questions only!) (EU)
- Zui.9245 [DnT] (EU questions only) & (NA)
- haveageez.5349 [ION] (NA questions only&EU)
- draclyna.6407 [rT] (EU)
- Metavox.1094 (NA)
Engineers:
- FallenSentinel.6439 [DnT] (EU)/Dea.5841 (NA)
- Zui.9245 [DnT] (EU questions only) & (NA)
- ELement.5647 [rT] (EU)
Rangers:
- Sublimatio.6981 [rT] (EU)
- haveageez.5349 [ION] (NA questions only&EU)
Elementalists:
- Enko.6123 [LOD] (NA)
- ivoboon.3048 [MYST] (EU)
- Metavox.1094 (NA)
- SlyDevil.3952 (NA)
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I wouldn’t reccommend Mango Pie as Omnomberry Pie is just way better – more healing unless youre running away, more dmg and the precision is nice
You could change the Trickery major trait (just slipped the name…) to Trickster or some stats to valkyrie instead of berserker, but i dont feel like using 5 ectos per ascended weapon/armor piece to switch it so…
love perma fury due to pack and trickery though, as well as pretty much perma swiftnes in a fight (if you really need it, just switch Infiltrator’s Signet to Shadow Signet if ooc to get around the map, infight you’ll have perma swiftness anyway)
Thats exactly what im using ._. just bit different armor stats and trinkets
I don’t really have the hardware to make videos and I agree with you that DP is far better than DD, but I just wanted to let you know that there are people out there still playing the game how they want, not how the game tells them to play, and yes, if you want to continue your solo god mode roaming then maybe try and learn DP, but if you want to just burst people down and run the kitten away.. DD burst is fun. : ) DD for life, my friend!
Ya but problem is, there is nothing to learn in dp. Easy to play, boring to play and boring to watch. There is no fun playing it for me especially with SA. WvW atm looks like “one shot or be oneshotted” sadly. I will still try with dd and i hope i will not rage too much ;P
I am still using DD and Shortbow in WvW as well and actually think it was buffed, not nerfed.
Huh? buffed? Can u explain how? U have to choose between 2 must have traits and u call it buff? d/d is even more trash than before compared to d/p.
Yeah, I can explain this. You say that those traits are ‘must have’ but like I told you before this patch I was playing Panic Strike DD with 6/0/2/0/6 with DD and Shortbow. So my Traits were Mug, Improv, Panic Strike, Shadow’s Embrace, Thrill, Bountiful and Sleight.
After the patch, I am using the same trees with just about the same traits, although after the patch my traits are Mug, Panic Strike, Executioner, Shadow’s Embrace, Leeching Venoms, Cloaked in Shadows, Thrill, Bountiful and Sleight. So they buffed my DD spec by allowing me to have Executioner and Leeching Venoms and my choice of Cloaked in Shadows or Shadow’s Rejuv, which I picked Cloaked in Shadow’s because Shadow’s Rejuvenation feels way too OP to play.
Trust me, you can still use DD just fine especially if you pair it with a good offset weapon like shortbow where you can kite or just play from a safe distance after your burst in DD. DP is better, sure, but I like the aggressive playstyle and burst potential of DD way better than DP and I can tell you since this patch my survivability has been improved and my damage has been improved and I can still roam or zerg dive and pick off low health or squishies in zerg fights just fine, you just have to play more cautiously than before, which is something I learned before this patch. You learn a lot when you don’t rely on stealth to carry you to victory.
I know i can play it and still kill ppl. I can also run without off hand weapon and just spam condis with perplex runes but thats not the point. Problem is, dp is just WAY BETTER and much more rewarding. I was using 20606 d/d and after patch this build is weaker than before. I want to survive outnumbered but without shadow rejuvation and blind on stealth its even harder than before. Everyone is running dp which also counters dd so its even more harder now. One more annoying thing is nerf to withdraw. If i dont trait for it its on 18s cd and this is my only way to remove immobilize chill and cripple. D/D is kittenin easy to counter idk on which tier u are but here in T2 if u want to win outnumbered 3+ vs 1 as d/d thief u need to fight against kittens or uplevels. Maybe i will try one more time with some mango pie or something idk. Feel free to share ur vid or build. Inspire me :P
I am still using DD and Shortbow in WvW as well and actually think it was buffed, not nerfed.
Huh? buffed? Can u explain how? U have to choose between 2 must have traits and u call it buff? d/d is even more trash than before compared to d/p.
Actually the regen you get as a master trait equals to about the same healing as before if you stayed in stealth for the whole C&D stealth duration
like this, you can play more aggressively though and as long as you dont roam with someone who gives you perma regen or your opponent doesnt rip that regen, you are healing for more than beforealso you kinda get the fall-damage trait for free now… even though thats a buff so small its barely noticeable
d/p is still better, sure. but d/d is more fun imo
Ya but its only 3s regen and i will not be able to stomp/ress in stealth like before. Also shadow embrace is nerfed. Yes its fun thats why im complaining about it and when i see what other classes got… I just want to sit and cry
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I am still using DD and Shortbow in WvW as well and actually think it was buffed, not nerfed.
Huh? buffed? Can u explain how? U have to choose between 2 must have traits and u call it buff? d/d is even more trash than before compared to d/p.
Still no update for mentors list?
it’s pretty much a dead guild with dead organisation
True. I was waiting 2 or 3 months already so i guess mentor list will not be uptated. If anyone wants to learn arah whisp/mail me ingame.
Knew you would come back! Could you maybe sometime post some vids on a more party scale? Would love to see that!
