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(Build) Shatter Mantra Build Max Burst (WvW)

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Ok so after much testing in a wvw environment ive come to the conclusion that torch is superioer when setting up shatters because of how unpredictable it is. Although pistol was ok with stun it was far too predictble and easily avoidable. All in all its better to stick with the torch because on top of the stealth it provides much needed additional burst dmg from the burst finisher which really takes down targets fast.
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It doesnt hit multiple targets it hits multi times to same targt (x6) now basically they decided not to let it hit multiple times and rather just one big ol hit so in reality its not really a buff or anything i bet its just a fix to somewhat change it to more bursty.

(Build) Shatter Mantra Build Max Burst (WvW)

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@ skcamow yea I’ve though about replacing it and as the other posters said compounding power is amazing when stacked with all the other percent increases.
But thing is compounding increases all your dmg including your power spike and blurred frenzies what this means is even if precise wrack was better dps wise compounding would still come out on top because it affects more abitilties.
Also honestly for a berserker build 50% is all you need crit wise and you will criit enough of the time. If you invest to much into crit (like I did at one point ) you’ll come out dispointed alot of times because you’ll have to sacrifice alot of power.
Rule of thumb for me is for berserker builds mesmer shatter you want to reach 50% crit around 100% crit dmg then just grab some power for around 3k when fully stacked. If you have an ascended gear set then you probably can manage to invest more into crit as you will be able to reach 3k power when fully buffed with might stacks which is where you want it in a shatter build at this point crit chance becomes better again.
Hope I helped to clarify this
Wish yall the best,
Lumi

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(Build) Shatter Mantra Build Max Burst (WvW)

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Yea for the stealth issue normally its an all in kinda of thing maybe I could add in a torch for the scare tactic to get them also I normally run mass invisibility for elite and surprise them its all about catching them off guard. Mantra resolve would be fine though to help with that issue of condition removal. With the dazed n stuns you normally don’t have to worry about him hitting you all that much its all about going in for the 20k combo and getting the kill. Also I don’t tend to get hit because I use the invulnerability shatter to give me time to survive coupled with blurred frenzy. This is why the trait for shatter reset is really amazing in this build

Also in regards to the toxic stones for utility I have found that you lack so much toughness and vitality in this build that you actually get more power from them than from the 6% from vitality utility. The condition duration is kinda just a bonus. Lol what I really wish I could do with this build is grab the dazzling trait for more burst
I’ve gotten 5k x 3 mind wracks however illisoonary persona is too good to sacrifice.
Hope I cleared up some stuff and thanks for the feedback!
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Lumi

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Well i say it depends on what you want to do. in general for me phantasm builds are great for fractals n such but i say go definitely shatter if you are doing dungeons because it helps with trash mobs. you can go 20/20/0/0/30 traditional or the 10/30/0/0/30 build which ever one fits yoru fancy and then grab all the usual utilities such as veil or portal feedback etc. signet of inspiration as well. Basically you are a support spec which can dual up as good dmg spec. However if phantasm is more your fancy/ you are gonna get into fractals and higher level dungeons then the spec you use is fine because it provides great burst. A tip is for phantasms make sure you run signet of ether so u can double up on phatnasms for good dmg basically once you get those phantasms out all three then u can realy start to do good burst and use your feedback utiliies and focus swiftness and signet of inspiration for boons etc for utility which is what mesmers are really useful for.
traditional shatter build- url[ http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQBYEB1DAAA+OSFatSKAgLE]url 10 points to spare
traditional phantasm build- url[http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQBYk40DAscAQqgqL9A3AQ2A]url
hope i helped,
Lumi

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[Build-sPvP] Tanky Mantra/Shatter

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Have you considered using staff in place of gs? Or would that ruin some of the burst of the build?

What armor sets do you use?

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I use the bererker set for shatter mesmer builds and just hilarous burst
and i have an offset of soldiers gear for when i run mantra healer build support which is acutlaly great becuase u can spam heals in a zerg for 2.5k and just survive easily at the front lines althoguh yoru burst does suffer.

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P.S. Oh for got to add in
Plz post any suggestions you have for improving this build as i love to theory craft and put improvements and suggestions into the builds. Thanks!
Best,
Lumi

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Traits:
I know some of you may quesiton some of my traits such as the decoy one or the shatter reset
well in general the reason i take the decoy is because since i get mantra of distraction i like to have some form of escape even though not ideal.
however,
the sword traited can be slotted in or mantra trait if you dont liek the cooldowns etc
as for the shatter reset, its amazing because with all the burst you can do if yoru shatters reset you literally can do an insta replay and go again another turn/ go invulnerable for the stomp after you down someone.
Food:
for food i prefer spicy butternut squash for more power and crit dmg with the toxic stone. however the insane cost of the food kinda makes me just want to get the crit dmg plus precision one. If you have the money and want to max yoru burst just grab the spicy butternut sqush food.
Combo:
your basic shatter combo with the F1 and F2 however your focus becomes on locking the opponent down with the shatter daze if they attmept to do anything and the mantra of distractionf or heal etc.
Basically the combo goes liek this
Pistol 5
Pistol 4
sword 3
dodge (for clone)
sword 3 again (for a quicker jump rahter than presisng the button twice
sword 2
ok now for the slight change
switch weapon here to staff/gs
then now you shatter F1
then mirror images F2
however whats key is although its hard you can weave the mantra of pain in between your shatters or if your like me and lazy just apply it to the end after yoru double shatter mantra of pain +mantra of distrcion them for the finish.
Now the reason for the weapon swap is because the dmg actually goes up if you wield a two hand weapon and also when you swap you get those might stacks.
Note: if you can execute this combo even somewhat quickly you can burst an opponent down in less that five seconds while maintaining complete lockdown for the entire duration insuring they cannot react (with the exception of their passives- im looking at you warriors lol)
Alright well I hope this guide was somewhat helpful and that if you decide to try this build that you have as much fun as I had with it.
Cheers,
Lumi

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Last utility slot:
This last slot you can put whatever you want i chose mantra of distraction because it boosts dmg by another 4% and it helps to lock down yoru oppoennts in combination with stun (pistol) and shatter daze.
For this last slot u can also go decoy blink or condition removal mantra/null field etc basically anythign you need.
For elite go with whatever you want stealth and time warp are really good choices and moa morph is hilarous lol
Gear:
For gear i went all exotic berserker however if ascended is available use that instead.
I chose scholar runes because its hilarous -the +10% dmg just totaly stacks when one shatters for good burst.
Weapons:
I am currently running with staff and sword/pistol however,
you can change staff for great sword for more burst and you can trade pistol or sword vs those pesky thieves lol.
Sigils:
As for sigils bloodlust i love because of the extra power which can give you the aroudn 2600 in full exotics
and i take sigil of battle on staff and pistol which helps a ton at increasing burst,
sigil of force can be taken too if you prefer that however in the combo section later ill explain why battle is awesome.

Stat Optimization:
One thing i want to include is for people (like me) who had trouble knowing when to stop stacking stats and so ended up with 3k power and 20% crit lol……
So bascially in this build you want to hold about 50% crit 100% crit dmg bare minmum and then stack power to around 2600 (with sigil of bloodlust but not includingn migth stacks) once you get this when you shatter you will reach about 3k power and while having the 50% crit and around 100% crit dmg

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So i just wanted to share with yall my build that I’ve been running with lately which has been a blast to play with.
build
Basically I always liked the style of shatter for mesmers but with the condition meta and the massive amount of soldier gear and tankiness , op warrios , etc I found it frutrating to play a mesmer shatter burst build because normally i would not manage to kill people unless they were comepletely glass. Although I wasnt there for the confusion nerf I watched all the videos pre nerf for mesmers and although the confusion nerf didnt hurt power mesmers as much i will say some of our burst was definietly lost which weakened the playstyle.
With this build I will say that it is definiely in the style of shattercat and other builds in that you go full zerker and just deck out someone. However whats fun about this variation is that you make up for the lost burst from confusion nerf and can literally one shot guardians and warriors
Basicallly with the 12% more dmg from the mantra and stacked witht he power spike dmg that you deal in between your shatter burst you can totally just wreck someone (2.5k crits from power spike on heavy targets).
Traits:
mantra of recovery
mantra of pain
mirror images
mantra of distraction
why these choices?
Well for starters the mantra of recovery is just there for 4% more dmg and with the instant heals you dont have to worry about getting interupted althoguh its main function is for mroe burst.
for mantra of pain basically (what ill explain later on in the combo section) you will be using the mantra of pain after or in between your shatters (if you can keyboard smash like a pro) for max burst that not only makes up for the confusion nerf that halfed our 2k confusion hits but increases it even more. (also 4% more dmg)
Mirror images is part of the combo for burst which summons two clones to help with on demand finishing burst.