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I imagine they’re extremely monogamous because meeting their equal would generate a pretty strong bond. Not to mention I honestly can’t see Norn males or females reacting well to multiple husbands/wives. I think they’d be pretty open when it came to dating and mating though, until they find someone equal enough to settle down with. Not convinced they’d be a big fan of homosexuals given how practical they are and how children seem like they’d be a pretty big deal to them.
It’s also possible that casual sex/‘dating’ (norn hunting dates, hah!) is common, and it’s not considered too serious or exclusive until some form of marriage proposal or agreement. I’m really not sure. I can’t see them leaning too much to the ‘open relationship’ or polygamy end, purely because history suggests people often react badly to the idea of polygamy so I don’t think ArenaNet would go there.
Not to burst any bubbles but apart from very recent western history, polygamy was actually the norm in virtually the entire world. Only by spreading European culture by the sword did the world become more monogamous on surface level. We all know how often people of all genders cheat so even that surface level hides a few interesting things. The reality is that polygamy for both sexes is pretty much the norm, we just don’t like to see that fact in plain view.
Plenty of cultures in the Americas, Africa, Asia and pre-christian Europe practiced open polygamy. Even in Europe monogamous marriages were mostly financial arrangements, while love and lust would be found elsewhere. In ancient Greek and Rome these sentiments were prevalent, while medieval aristocracy openly practiced “courting”, a word derived from the courts of kings. Only in post WW2 history did cheating get the extremely bad connotations it has today.
You’re wrong on pretty much all accounts. Monogamy was very much the norm given that people that have sex with each other develop very strong attachments to each other. Humans are biologically hardwired to pair up and produce offspring and then rear that offspring. Cheating has always been seen as an exceptionally sinful thing to do, as emphasised by being an actual sin in most religions.
Not to mention that monogamy was widespread and existed nearly universally, and in fact the oldest and most widespread examples stemmed from Mesopotamia. Outwith Europe. All you proved was your racist attitude against Europeans.
Not to spoil your bubble and your no doubt fond hope of acquiring multiple wives one day.
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I just talked to a vendor that was a Golem, which is obvious proof that the next playable race will be Golems!
We get to play Golems guys!
Do you think we get to call the Dwarves golems now since they’ve basically turned themselves into smaller variants of the golems from Dragon Age?
Well it’s still kind of standing, even if it missing the top half. Truthfully I didn’t even notice since I don’t remember what it looked like before and I missed the event with the crabs.
I agree that the dialogue doesn’t really hint at anything beyond an improved glory system.
Lion’s Arch’s independence might be accepted for the time being because of certain other overriding priorities but it’s still technically just a rebel settlement in Krytan territory.
Obviously my analogy might have been missed on non-British members, but it’s effectively like if the capital city of your country was destroyed by natural disaster and then foreign immigrants moved in and set up camp and then set up an imitation of your country’s oldest military unit. I honestly can’t see Britain letting go of London and it’s territory just because of a natural disaster, nor France ceding Paris to whoever moved in afterwards, nor Germany Berlin and so on and so forth.
Well apparently they were a strong candidate to be a playable race by Anet. Given that their city is still totally inaccessible but under growing threat and the race itself is very unique with an avian physique and Japanese style it’s very likely they will be the next playable race in any expansion.
Well the old lighthouse is still standing. It wasn’t totally destroyed, so their dialogue still makes sense.
Dhuum didn’t refuse necromancy – he just refused undead. He hunted down anyone who “cheated death.”
And nothing says Grenth taught humans how to use necromancy, resurrect the dead, or make undead.
Dhuum fairly obviously would have refused necromancy given his hatred of all forms of undead, resurrections and cheating death.
No doubt necromancy came about at the time that Abaddon taught the other races to use magic however given that it’s a form of magic and Abaddon.
But then that begs the question of how Dhuum was known to detest cheating death through resurrection and necromancy if he was deposed before the mortal races had even been given magic.
By your logic I think yes, the current Lionguard are not the same as the original Lionguard, because this is not the same Lion’s Arch. It’s not the case that Lion’s Arch is a part of Kryta that has some conflicts with the throne (e.g. whether or not to fight the centaurs), though – Lion’s Arch is not part of the Krytan kingdom. No longer. It’s an independent city-state, neutral and separate. So in that sense the Lionguard are still a coastal/port city guard, but they’re not part of the same organisation and definitely don’t have the same loyalties.
The ‘new’ Lion’s Arch, built near the original site after the flood, started off as a pirate haven (the Tortuga of Tyria!), and part of the appeal would have been that it owed no allegiance to any nation and therefore none of their laws applied. Since then obviously it has grown up into its own major trade hub and it has its own laws, but unlike Ebonhawke, it is not part of Jennah’s kingdom.
By rights Lion’s Arch still belongs to Kryta, but given the current minor issues of impending draconic cataclysm I can understand why Jennah would put that on the backburner and to make the most of allies where she can find them.
Just because Lion’s Arch was rebuilt by foreign refugees doesn’t change the fact that it was built on Krytan sovereign territory. That would be like if London had been rebuilt after the Blitz by refugee Frenchmen, Irishmen, Italians and Germans who promptly set up their own city state, and then patrolled it with their own imitation guardsmen in red coats and big black wooly hats.
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The Lionguard always have been the protectors of the city of Lion’s Arch and nothing else. We do not know what the name of Kryta’s army was before their war with the charr, and the rise of the White Mantle. But I specifically remember during the War in Kryta, when Salma was speaking of returning to Lion’s Arch, her being unsure whether the Lionguard would side with her or if she would have to fight to take the city. To her joy, and everyone else’s they sided with her and allowed her to enter the city. So it seems that their loyalty is city first, and Kryta/Monarchy later.
They used to be the primary army and military unit of Kryta before the rise of the White Mantle, that’s why they chafe at them because they’re being marginalised. Their loyalty seems to have been to Kryta and the throne primarily, but they were based in Old Lion’s Arch because it was the capital of Kryta. So if the current Lionguard are indeed the remnants of the originals that would make them traitors and rebels of Kryta. I still think the originals were wiped out and this new breed are just copies.
I’m still not convinced that this is the same Lionguard from GW1 however. Granted, this one seems entirely loyal to Lion’s Arch but then it’s not the same Lion’s Arch either. I think what happened was that the original Lionguard were annihilated along with Old Lion’s Arch because as stated by others the Lionguard were marginalised by the White Mantle to begin with, but then after they aided the Shining Blade they were further marginalised by being replaced by the Seraph so as someone else pointed out that means that they’d have been effectively reduced to a police force localised in Old Lion’s Arch and given that city was entirely swept away then surely this new breed of Liognuard is more like a spiritual successor than anything? It’s like confusing the original Templars with modern copycat oganisations that only share the name.
I wouldn’t say they’re traitors. Their power was usurped by the White Mantle in 1070 and since the end of the Krytan civil war in 1079, they’ve been replaced by the Seraph. The Lionguard still maintained the protection of Lion’s Arch and probably helped rebuild it after the rise of Zhaitan. That would explain why it is now a multi-racial organization. With Lion’s Arch acting as a city-state, the Lionguard is no longer directly connected to Kryta.
Well it all depends if it even is the same Lionguard. Current lore says that Lion’s Arch was completely levelled and rebuilt by pirates, which would suggest that the current Lionguard are just loosely based copies and all of the old school Lionguard died, which would also explain the racial diversity and change in allegiance. It’s hard to imagine the original Lionguard turning their backs and betraying Kryta and the royal family, especially after they and the Shining Blades restored the current government and monarchy of Kryta.
I think as others have said that the Lionguard do indeed primarily serve Lion’s Arch given their racial diversity and their leader is one of the captain’s council of Lion’s arch, but a lot of my confusion stems from the fact that there’s not very much on their history at all. We’re left to guess what happened to the original Lionguard. I think the case is that these aren’t true Lionguard at all since they’ve turned traitor and defected from Kryta. The current version are merely spiritual successors only very loosely based on the original Lionguard, and that the originals were destroyed along with the old Lion’s Arch.
There does seem to be some contention between the current Lionguard and the Krytans from what I’ve seen however, there’s a human soldier in one of the Lionguard havens that talks about his niece asking if he would protect her from the centaurs, and he said he couldn’t because he wasn’t a Seraph, and then his sister told her daughter that he wasn’t a real soldier. Or something to that effect, I’m paraphrasing here. Which is understandable given that they would be officially rebels and traitors if they did have any actual ties to the original Lionguard beyond the name.
I thought that too, but the Lionguard seem to be occupying Krytan forts, and in the human quest one of their members was talking about not receiving enough reinforcements from Divinity’s Reach. That, and there doesn’t seem to be any information regarding how or when they formally broke from the Krytan military. Lion’s Arch was originally completely destroyed so that means the survivors would have still been working for the Krytans. Or have they become a supranational organisation like the Templars but with their base in Lion’s Arch?
1) Dwarves, because in their current form they’d be awesome and I’d love to see them make a big return since they hark back to Guild Wars 1
2) The Tengu. They too seem like they’d be another interesting beast race to play.
3) The Jotun. Because they’re so vast and part of a decrepit incredibly ancient culture and I’d love to see more of them.
I was just wondering who exactly it is that the Lionguard serve? In the first game they were a branch of the Krytan military, but centred on Lion’s Arch. From what I’ve gleaned they are still focused on Lion’s Arch, but given that Lion’s Arch is now a seperate city state that seems rather odd given that they are still officially a part of the Krytan armed forces.
Could someone shed some light on the relations of the Lionguard in regards to the nation of Kryta and the independent city state of Lion’s Arch?