Forsaken Gamers [FG]
Piken Square
Dear unhappy rangers
Character expansion slots are still on sale. Worry not, you can reroll at 20% less cost.
Or just be smart and switch to one of the many recently released or upcoming better MMO’s. That’s what I’m doing at least. 1,5 years of hilarious/pathetic balancing and constant Ranger abuse has gotten old.
Got the exact same problem. Crashes started happening at the patch a month ago, but game is just unplayable now. Can’t do WvW anymore and can’t even do these PvE events because I keep getting thrown out when big fights happen and when starting the game again I’m thrown in an empty overflow.
Filed a ticket, but it seems I won’t be playing anymore as long as this doesn’t get fixed.
This pretty much sums it up. It’s nice that some people keep on defending the ranger class by saying how they are good in 1v1 and roaming, but that’s pretty much the only thing rangers are somewhat good at. In the bigger WvW fights rangers are pretty much useless.
This really isn’t true. There is a big difference, which is so often lost on theory crafters, between “not optimal” and “useless.” The ranger is underpowered, not unplayable.
I didn’t mean to say that the ranger was unplayable. I meant that in comparison to other professions there is no reason or use for guilds/zergs/groups to take a ranger with them. They are useless in the sense that they don’t bring anything actual useful to the bigger fights that other classes can’t do better. Coupled with the fact that a broken and mostly dead pet is a big hit on things like the ranger’s dps, makes them (relatively) useless.
Sure, really skilled players can still be a huge asset to the team, but that’s more despite them being a ranger than it is because of them being a ranger.
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It’s multiple things
- stupid pet AI taking up 40% of our dps untraited, and if traited, still can’t hit very much, they’re also useless in duengons, zergs in WvW, and can’t attack off walls they’re also unresponsive.-Backwards, broken traits. Master’s bond literally goes against the whole switching mechanic, evasive purity doesn’t work, opening strike is used ONCE, then forgotten about.
-Weapons are broken, the great shortbow nerfs, longbow punishes you for a mob being close in a game where mobility is key and is not very good, they need to rework the bow. 1h Sword roots you in place for 2/3 of the auto-attack chain, axe 5 roots you in place.
-Spirits are broken, require 2 traits to be useful. Why take a spirit ranger over a rifle or longbow warrior, when they can bring banners that can’t die, provide better buffs, and in a pinch can be picked up by anyone. Lightening reflexes doesn’t cure imob. Traps require 2 traits to be useful,.
And the most important thing, Rangers don’t really bring anything to the table that isn’t done better and easier than everyone else. Warrior banners and shouts, rangers have the worst res in the game, guardians bring better regen, mesmers bring more meat shields and more buffs, necros bring better pets, engis bring…everything. Ele’s have better dam and group utility. Only thing rangers bring is the best water field in the game, and we don’t even get a blast finisher to use it in.
This pretty much sums it up. It’s nice that some people keep on defending the ranger class by saying how they are good in 1v1 and roaming, but that’s pretty much the only thing rangers are somewhat good at. In the bigger WvW fights rangers are pretty much useless. The pet is always dead because of the aoe, if the pet is alive it won’t hit anything because it can’t hit moving targets and the utilities the ranger has aren’t of much use in big team-fights and are all outclassed by other professions.
There is not one situation where people ask for a ranger in their group. On the contrary, people would rather not have a ranger in their group because that spot could be filled by a more useful class. Look at GvG’s for instance, I don’t think there are many (if any) guilds who have a ranger in their GvG group. The Aetherblade dungeon is also a perfect example of why rangers aren’t popular in dungeon groups. In both the laser and the cannon fight your pet will be dead 95% of the time, taking away more than 1/4 of your DPS. DPS which is needed to finish the dungeon in a certain time limit to get an achievement.
So yeah, rangers are decent in sPvP and other small fights, but broken and outclassed in all other aspects. This is not a l2p issue, this is purely a broken profession issue.
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Guys, i m talking about the first fair fight, where u were just a little bit more than us
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i m not talking about the fight where we were 20guildies and 15 PUs against the Piken 100-men endless ultimate blob mixing a 60-men guild and another 20-men guild +PUs.
Anyway, most of our guildies didn t die during this fight and we got lot of loot bagsThank you for the fun, we laughed a lot.
See u on the battleground
The first fair fight? You mean the fight were you ambushed us in a chokepoint with two guilds and pugs while we were still preparing? Sure we lost that fight, but don’t be a sore loser and just admit you lost the other fights after that. Even with your superiour numbers, your siege and the fact that we fought next to your garrison with a waypoint.
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They probably don’t hate them, but they just don’t understand them and are unable to make decent pet ai.
They also seem to insist on balancing classes based on sPvP, not understanding how big of a hit that can have on those classes in WvW and PvE.
Unless you’re a masochist, don’t do it.
And once again Anet proves how short-sighted they are. In trying to “fix” the bunker build in sPvP they’ve ruined the ranger even more in WvW, a mode in which the ranger was already pretty much a laughing stock.
Pets are completely useless in WvW, dying instantly in large group fights and are too slow to do some actual damage to enemies. The only good thing about them was that you could get some easy quickness by putting 5 points in Beastmastery. If we want the same thing now, we need to put 30 points into probably the most useless trait-line for WvW, especially now that the pets have been nerfed even more. And don’t even get me started on the silly idea to make other weapons more viable by nerfing one of the most used ones…
It’s obvious that Anet doesn’t have any people on the balance team who play a ranger in WvW because this is just all around kittened and reeks of incompetence.
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