Guild Wars 2

Devs dont even remember that WvW is in the game. everytime WvW is mentioned they have to find their script on how to respond to this fictional game mode. We will never get auto loot, because obviously we don’t exist

Sometime before the 45sec mark, you can just barely hear someone laughing. I can only imagine what mumble was like.

GuardianOMS.8067:

A little going away present.

It’s Raining Maguuman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvcxAinFcew

Proud to be part of a server that still has so much fun while losing towers and keeps.

Anyone care to explain what just happened to Kain’s garrison?

Oozo.7856:

Screenshots taken from behind walls are always very impressive.

Also outside the walls =]

Kovu.7560:

Well played, Maguuma. I’m not overly fond of green, but those blue borderlands needed a new paint job.

~ Kovu

You can thank BP for it. <3

Not until I get a WvW bff too! Preferably a warrior.

Now I’m super sad…

saiyr.3071:

TokenTrevor.2563:

saiyr.3071:

TokenTrevor.2563:

Except the part where I said it’s forum warriors saying it, but okay.

In parts of your posts, yeah. But I’m not just talking about one particular person, either. We’re all guilty of it at some point but I feel like it’s getting especially out of hand in this thread.

You gonna do something about it?

Make posts that make people laugh and not take this thread overly seriously because the things I’ve seen on here and heard elsewhere have made me super super sad??

You haven’t made me laugh. And you call yourself a “bff”?

saiyr.3071:

TokenTrevor.2563:

Except the part where I said it’s forum warriors saying it, but okay.

In parts of your posts, yeah. But I’m not just talking about one particular person, either. We’re all guilty of it at some point but I feel like it’s getting especially out of hand in this thread.

You gonna do something about it?

People playing video games are making generalizations based on what people say and they have seen. This is preposterous! Get me the mayor!

Except the part where I said it’s forum warriors saying it, but okay.

Haldunius.7864:

TokenTrevor.2563:

FA reminds me so much of CD. Instead of trying to get all the transfers we could and winning as hard as we could, Maguuma focused on having fun and our community. Now look where those servers are at… not their tier, but their current situation.

There’s nothing wrong with playing to win, but it doesn’t come without its flaws. Fair weather players will not stick around to see you through defeats, and when the wheels of drama start turning, oh boy! Not saying the same thing will happen to FA, but the forum warriors who are here to trot around the score should read some old CD threads. Because it’s so alike.

I think it was the part where you said FA reminds you of CD. You are stating unlike FA and CD, Maguuma plays to have fun and build its community. And then you finish with a passive threat that FA is close to suffering the same fate as CD. I said, if you are going to try and explain our goals to us, you might first try to get an understanding of who we are. I just got done reading a long hug fest thread on our community forum and wiping many tears – thanks Dia. I can guarantee our community is tight. Based on what I’ve seen from Maguuma on this thread, I don’t think its FA that needs to be concerned about its players and community. FA’s WvW players share a common goal.

Anyway, as I said before, this probably stems from the frustration created by playing against our coverage. I don’t think anyone on FA is sitting here tooting there horn about this victory. We now know we have the best coverage in this tier. We know coverage = victory in WvW. We’ve also suffered for months on the other side of the coverage equation.

No, we’ve played against this kind of coverage numerous times. I was just pointing out a few things from the forum warriors doing their typical chest thumping and saying all they care about is winning. There are plenty of people “tooting their horns”. Even in your own recruitment threads, FA states their goal is to win and head to the top. Are you missing these posts?

Haldunius.7864:

It’s really unfortunate that you have no idea what you are talking about. That’s ok though. We on FA understand the frustration of have too little coverage in T3 so I don’t think anyone is going to hold it against you, but try to do a little research first if you are going to try and explain a server to itself.

Who am I trying to explain anything to? I’m simply pointing out some choice quotes, comparing it to other servers, and commenting on it. Perhaps you should try reading a little so you can understand.

Ehmry Bay, Dark Haven and ESPECIALLY Crystal Desert used to rag on Maguuma all the time because we didn’t play to win. We told them, “you guys are using numbers, which isn’t a bad thing. But you need to play smarter, not harder.” But then they would say “we’ll let the scoreboard to the talking” or “why would we take advice from the server in last place?”, something that I am hearing in this very thread. It’s not they never heard the saying winning isn’t everything.

FA reminds me so much of CD. Instead of trying to get all the transfers we could and winning as hard as we could, Maguuma focused on having fun and our community. Now look where those servers are at… not their tier, but their current situation.

There’s nothing wrong with playing to win, but it doesn’t come without its flaws. Fair weather players will not stick around to see you through defeats, and when the wheels of drama start turning, oh boy! Not saying the same thing will happen to FA, but the forum warriors who are here to trot around the score should read some old CD threads. Because it’s so alike.

Besetment.9187:

TokenTrevor.2563:

Well, since it was Mag players that said it, I don’t wish, I heard.

Mag players? You mean plural?

Yeah, in mumble.

Besetment.9187:

TokenTrevor.2563:

Looks like Mag finally said hours of defending and sieging against large numbers like FA just isn’t fun and said kitten it.

You wish…

Well, since it was Mag players that said it, I don’t wish, I heard.

Probably the least fun match up for anyone on Maguuma who plays during the oceanic primetime.

Looks like Mag finally said hours of defending and sieging against large numbers like FA just isn’t fun and said kitten it.

eye floater.7140:

GuardianOMS.8067:

eye floater.7140:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Yak’s have numbers, but no clue how to use it. It’s the same as ever, except it’s equal numbers now. IoJ is a unicorn, they simply just don’t exist. It feels like no one is trying, I honestly don’t blame you. But when Maguuma fought outnumbered, we bared our teeth, and played it smart. These guys… meh

Would people please stop acting like there’s actually that much strategy in WVW?
“We bared our teeth and played it smart”. Really? Wtf does that even mean? How exactly did you “bare your teeth”, because there is no exhaustion in virtual worlds, so that phrase really doesn’t mean anything. The most it could mean is you didn’t retreat.

Wow, did you really just make the mistake of taking those cheesy lines seriously? And more importantly, you didn’t even understand them? Woah.

But you’re right, there is no strategy to WvW. Just bang your faces against a gate and see how far that gets you. It worked for many servers, I’m sure it’ll work for you too (it wont). But seriously, as long as you’re having fun, that’s all that matters. I honestly just wish you guys played smarter, not harder. In the long run, it’ll work to your advantage.

I wasn’t supposed to take that paragraph seriously… Have you ever noticed how hard it is to detect sarcasm through text sometimes? And what I meant by attacking that idiom, is that you can’t DO anything differently in WVW if you hunker down and get angry. Do your skills do more damage when you’re kitten off? No. Do your arrows shoot farther? No. Are your shouts louder? No. “Baring your teeth” in a game means nothing else besides hostility, and that cannot translate into any enhanced state of physical aggression, because it’s a virtual world.
When you said “we bared our teeth, and played it smart”, it just sounds a little pretentious. What exactly did you do after you got more aggressive? Run at the Yaks zerg more? Press your 1 button harder?
As for the lack of strategy, I said there isn’t MUCH strategy. People always exaggerate when trying to make a point, so I did, and others did when they quoted me as saying there is none. Yes, there is some, but not a lot. Spreading out catas isn’t that hard to figure out. There could be a lot of strategy if everyone communicated perfectly, and if anything other than a zerg could counter a zerg, but there’s not.
And you know, saying things like “I honestly just wish you guys played smarter” make you sound like a kitten. Even if it were true, and say we did have a mindless zerg going everywhere, it makes you sound extremely pretentious to tell us to play smarter. Sometimes playing smart is incredibly kittening boring- i.e. running yaks or babying towers- so people don’t do it.

Doctor! Get this guy a chill pill, STAT!

Pendragon.8735:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Maguuma has been used to this since day one. We are all broke, but despite getting our teeth kicked in, we love to play. Did Yaks/IoJ never face match ups like this?

YB is probably burnt out from matches like this honestly. Has happened multiple times now that we end up vs a bandwagon server, who proceeds to tell us to hang in there and give tactical lessons. Said bandwagon servers then go up a tier or two and run into the same type of wall that we are in down here. Funny they seem to forget all their brillaint advice at that point, once matched up with even numbers, but maybe you’ll fare better.

Well a couple of other posters have disagreed with you but I’ll still answer. I think the difference between Mag and any other bandwagon server is that we don’t want to be in those tiers and our goal is not always to win. We have been on the losing end since day one and we have always given advice to our opponents, regardless if we’re beating them or not. We’re not taking pity on you, its just how our community is.

morrolan.9608:

TokenTrevor.2563:

Rather than identify problems, you just say “oh we’re outmanned” and move on. I understand WvW is a numbers game, but you can’t except to keep using that as a scapegoat for your loses.

He said Maguuma have been more skillfull than YB overall what more do you want? Dunno why you guys are getting so hostile about other servers, move on. If you honestly want to give advice then give it objectively. I thought you maguumans had a sense of humour.

I was talking about before, when he just randomly mentioned they’re out manned. No one is hostile, it’s a discussion. Big surprise here, but not every single person on Maguuma is the same and will respond as such. And you say for us to move on but many Yaks and IoJs are still mentioning it, even their displeasure to play the game because of it.

Tynan.6279:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Tynan.6279:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Yak’s have numbers, but no clue how to use it. It’s the same as ever, except it’s equal numbers now. IoJ is a unicorn, they simply just don’t exist. It feels like no one is trying, I honestly don’t blame you. But when Maguuma fought outnumbered, we bared our teeth, and played it smart. These guys… meh

I guess the Outmanned buff I was getting on 3 out of 4 maps during prime was just Anet making me feel better!

Yes, please talk about your specific instance against something that happened in the past. That makes your argument FAR more superior and relevant. It’s not that hard people, you DO have numbers at times, quit acting like you don’t. Yes, you are outmanned a majority of the time, but when you aren’t you still don’t have the teamwork or organizational skills to do anything.

Currently in Yak’s BL, you are NOT outmanned and ten people don’t know how to get one person off a cannon so they’re retreating back to garrison.

We already established that for the most part Maguuma’s skill far exceeds Yak’s and we have a lot of work to do to retrain and get organized. But to sit here and say that you do not have numbers is ridiculous…

So as to my first statement, when we have equal numbers you dominate us! There now you don’t have to go there again, the morale on Yak’s isn’t the best so take your win here and move on with honor!

Please read up a few posts up about a failed tower assault and my response!

There are battles where Maguuma does not outnumber you. To say during every single time a Maguuma player and a Yak player have crossed eyes that’s Yak’s was outmanned is stretching it. No one is saying we do not have numbers. The point is, you are not outmanned all the time, yet you keep using it as an excuse.

Rather than identify problems, you just say “oh we’re outmanned” and move on. I understand WvW is a numbers game, but you can’t except to keep using that as a scapegoat for your loses.

Tynan.6279:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Yak’s have numbers, but no clue how to use it. It’s the same as ever, except it’s equal numbers now. IoJ is a unicorn, they simply just don’t exist. It feels like no one is trying, I honestly don’t blame you. But when Maguuma fought outnumbered, we bared our teeth, and played it smart. These guys… meh

I guess the Outmanned buff I was getting on 3 out of 4 maps during prime was just Anet making me feel better!

What does the outmanned buff you have now have anything to do with the situations he’s talking about?

So what’s gonna happen if we don’t get Cox?

saiyr.3071:

Actually I’m pretty sure every server has pubbies that will run through the front gate and get farmed

But its happened more times than I’ve ever seen with any other server. And its their wvw guilds doing it, not just random pubs.

Plok.6145:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Plok.6145:

twodollar.5193:

This is the BP way we cant win so we exploit siege up in spawn to treb the keep We where able to kill the treb and ran off but i stayed and died for the Screenshot think you guys should just be perma banned for doing that but hey not like your gonna win anyway right

The moral of this story, don’t camp the spawn.

You say that like there aren’t any other exits… oh wait, there are! Those spawn siege placements always gets taken out anyway and you guys are reduced to going to a different bl, finally pushing out, or hitting another target. Either way, there’s no reason we shouldn’t “camp“ your spawn if you’re going to make it so easy to do so.

No kidding! Really! I am glad you are so wise in the way of exit places. I guess sarcasm relay well in print :P

You might want to relay that info to your dudes. Maguuma has lost and been pushed back many times, but we don’t allow the enemy to farm us at our own spawn. I don’t know if that’s how you guys have fun, but it makes you look incompetent judging by the number of times it has happened.

Not trying to insult you or appear better than you, but you guys should learn how to play smarter since you’re outnumbered or you’re not going to stand a chance against anyone.

What if there were no golems?

Newbies or not, I expect better from groups with commanders in them. Though after all those problems you listed, sounds like even with a decent commander, the odds are against you.

Good luck.

Nut.4713:

Mag golem rush, 1 keep. YB golem rush, 1 map. First lesson, don’t reveal your golem presence on a keep that’s easy to take. Second, you telegraphed your attack on garrison, where you got smoked. Only trying to help.

YB has had many failed golem rushes, but Ive seen fewer golem attempts from Mag. Please don’t act like that one victory or failure is a testament to how either servers plays to the point that you feel the need to “help.”

Here’s “help”: Mag, when youre trying to take a keep with smaller numbers, try to keep a better control of your supply. I’m seeing a lot of wasted seige that doesnt get built, then you guys run back for supply. This isnt a big deal in large assaults, but when you cant leave a team behind to keep pressure on the defenders because youre so small, it gives us breathing room to resupply, bring reinforcements, and build walls/gates back up.

Edit: auto correct hates me

GuardianOMS.8067:

I went present hunting with a little Asura from Yak’s Bend. Then we danced in the field and frolicked in the flowers

Well that’s a dumb thing to do. You’re supposed to destroy the enemy, not play with them. This is WAR!