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If it were to be the alternative method, it should be the cheaper method. Why consider an option that costs more gold and time than just selling the mats and buying it outright and still have gold to pocket? I was considering this method because of the random chance of getting the precursor through chests and such, but when you compare the gold cost to craft the item as opposed to just buying outright, you’re losing a lot of gold, and wasting a lot of time. It’s hardly an alternative method.
I can’t lose any gold if I don’t buy most of the mats off of the trading post. I’m only wasting time if I end up not finishing the collection.
You are losing gold when you don’t buy the mats, because if you were to sell the mats, you’d end up with more gold than the precursor is even worth. Why farm and waste the mats crafting something, when you could sell the mats get more gold, and buy the precursor with gold left-over?
As it stands with the prices now, it’s more cost-efficient to farm the mats and sell them, buy the precursor than it is to craft the precursor. Maybe in time it will be reversed, but as we are now, it’s a waste of time.Its not Anets fault, its the players fault who sell their precursors on the tp for so cheap and pay so much gold to circumvent the daily timegate on asc mats.
This.
I’m to tired of these threads to go into the details of how demand for ascendede crafting materials, etc.etc., spikes in prices etc.etc., people undercutting each other to stupid degrees, etc.etc. might affect prices of precursor crafting.
Let’s leave it at: the precursor crafting mechanic provides a needed service to the game.
If you don’t feel like using it, then don’t. No one is forcing you to.
I wont be using it as it is a useless service to the game. Even though it provides another way of acquiring a precursor, in the current economy of the game, it’s irrelevant. We all have our opinions and that’s fine, but regardless, facts are facts, and if you’re thinking logically, it’s pointless.
-But be my guest, go craft your precursor, waste your time, lose out on potential gold, makes no difference to me. I have already received the information I set out to obtain through our community. I appreciate all the feedback, I am just baffled and hope that crafting a precursor becomes more relevant as it is one of the features of the expansion I was looking forward to the most.I will. Thank you. As have many others already, hence the price spikes right after HoT went live.
Only because you like playing the game 1-way does not mean every one has to enjoy playing it that way.
Also I would like for you to prove how precursor crafting is a useless service to the game? How else would people who do not want to rely on the mystic forge, and do not simply want to buy the precursor (for what ever reason) get their precursor?
There, not useless no matter how much you want to moan about prices.
It’s useless because farming mats-selling mats-buying precursor is more efficient and effective than crafting the precursor. Glad you wasted your time. Congratulations.
You should probably scratch your brain and do things more efficiently, you’ll see results and wont waste your time. Time is the one thing you can’t get back.
Great, now if gaming was all about pure efficiency instead of fun.
All you have proven is that you do not understand the difference.
I’ll say it again, precursor crafting has a purpose. You not agreeing to that purpose or wanting to use the possibilities precursor crafting offers does not void it’s use.
It simply means that you have different priorities. The fact that other players have and are enjoying the crafting is reason enough for it to be useful.
Has a purpose, yes. Is it worth doing? no.
I’m glad people enjoy doing it, I was hoping for it to be more than what it was.
I wont partake in it because I don’t want to waste time/gold. When the economy is already screwy, I’d rather not waste where I can save. I have fun playing the game, I had fun doing the collection part of the precursor crafting, I enjoy the fact that you have to craft things and turn it in, on the tier 2 part. But alas, the actual crafting part I’m not partial to. And that’s where I say that I will purchase the precursor, I’ll probably still finish the crafting, but I’ll have my legendary long before the crafting process is finished.
If it were to be the alternative method, it should be the cheaper method. Why consider an option that costs more gold and time than just selling the mats and buying it outright and still have gold to pocket? I was considering this method because of the random chance of getting the precursor through chests and such, but when you compare the gold cost to craft the item as opposed to just buying outright, you’re losing a lot of gold, and wasting a lot of time. It’s hardly an alternative method.
I can’t lose any gold if I don’t buy most of the mats off of the trading post. I’m only wasting time if I end up not finishing the collection.
You are losing gold when you don’t buy the mats, because if you were to sell the mats, you’d end up with more gold than the precursor is even worth. Why farm and waste the mats crafting something, when you could sell the mats get more gold, and buy the precursor with gold left-over?
As it stands with the prices now, it’s more cost-efficient to farm the mats and sell them, buy the precursor than it is to craft the precursor. Maybe in time it will be reversed, but as we are now, it’s a waste of time.Its not Anets fault, its the players fault who sell their precursors on the tp for so cheap and pay so much gold to circumvent the daily timegate on asc mats.
This.
I’m to tired of these threads to go into the details of how demand for ascendede crafting materials, etc.etc., spikes in prices etc.etc., people undercutting each other to stupid degrees, etc.etc. might affect prices of precursor crafting.
Let’s leave it at: the precursor crafting mechanic provides a needed service to the game.
If you don’t feel like using it, then don’t. No one is forcing you to.
I wont be using it as it is a useless service to the game. Even though it provides another way of acquiring a precursor, in the current economy of the game, it’s irrelevant. We all have our opinions and that’s fine, but regardless, facts are facts, and if you’re thinking logically, it’s pointless.
-But be my guest, go craft your precursor, waste your time, lose out on potential gold, makes no difference to me. I have already received the information I set out to obtain through our community. I appreciate all the feedback, I am just baffled and hope that crafting a precursor becomes more relevant as it is one of the features of the expansion I was looking forward to the most.I will. Thank you. As have many others already, hence the price spikes right after HoT went live.
Only because you like playing the game 1-way does not mean every one has to enjoy playing it that way.
Also I would like for you to prove how precursor crafting is a useless service to the game? How else would people who do not want to rely on the mystic forge, and do not simply want to buy the precursor (for what ever reason) get their precursor?
There, not useless no matter how much you want to moan about prices.
It’s useless because farming mats-selling mats-buying precursor is more efficient and effective than crafting the precursor. Glad you wasted your time. Congratulations.
You should probably scratch your brain and do things more efficiently, you’ll see results and wont waste your time. Time is the one thing you can’t get back.
The problem with precursor crafting is that it’s a god kitten PiA to gather all the ascended materials and the second collection is just a nightmare. First collection was pretty cool for spark and the third one really felt good. I ended up buying most of what I needed instead of just waiting for the time gate.
Essentially, Anet should reduce the overall mats needed to craft the precursor, while making the seeing the world and completing content part more important and do away with everything related to time gating.
The overall idea is great, but as always with anet, implementation is kitten poor.
I completely agree with you. I don’t mind the grind, but you if you’re not planning on buying everything, you better get started on your CD’s. It’s going to take over a month of dailies to get all the ascended matts needed. You could farm the gold for the precursor and buy it in that time.
If it were to be the alternative method, it should be the cheaper method. Why consider an option that costs more gold and time than just selling the mats and buying it outright and still have gold to pocket? I was considering this method because of the random chance of getting the precursor through chests and such, but when you compare the gold cost to craft the item as opposed to just buying outright, you’re losing a lot of gold, and wasting a lot of time. It’s hardly an alternative method.
I can’t lose any gold if I don’t buy most of the mats off of the trading post. I’m only wasting time if I end up not finishing the collection.
You are losing gold when you don’t buy the mats, because if you were to sell the mats, you’d end up with more gold than the precursor is even worth. Why farm and waste the mats crafting something, when you could sell the mats get more gold, and buy the precursor with gold left-over?
As it stands with the prices now, it’s more cost-efficient to farm the mats and sell them, buy the precursor than it is to craft the precursor. Maybe in time it will be reversed, but as we are now, it’s a waste of time.Its not Anets fault, its the players fault who sell their precursors on the tp for so cheap and pay so much gold to circumvent the daily timegate on asc mats.
This.
I’m to tired of these threads to go into the details of how demand for ascendede crafting materials, etc.etc., spikes in prices etc.etc., people undercutting each other to stupid degrees, etc.etc. might affect prices of precursor crafting.
Let’s leave it at: the precursor crafting mechanic provides a needed service to the game.
If you don’t feel like using it, then don’t. No one is forcing you to.
I wont be using it as it is a useless service to the game. Even though it provides another way of acquiring a precursor, in the current economy of the game, it’s irrelevant. We all have our opinions and that’s fine, but regardless, facts are facts, and if you’re thinking logically, it’s pointless.
-But be my guest, go craft your precursor, waste your time, lose out on potential gold, makes no difference to me. I have already received the information I set out to obtain through our community. I appreciate all the feedback, I am just baffled and hope that crafting a precursor becomes more relevant as it is one of the features of the expansion I was looking forward to the most.
If it were to be the alternative method, it should be the cheaper method. Why consider an option that costs more gold and time than just selling the mats and buying it outright and still have gold to pocket? I was considering this method because of the random chance of getting the precursor through chests and such, but when you compare the gold cost to craft the item as opposed to just buying outright, you’re losing a lot of gold, and wasting a lot of time. It’s hardly an alternative method.
I can’t lose any gold if I don’t buy most of the mats off of the trading post. I’m only wasting time if I end up not finishing the collection.
You are losing gold when you don’t buy the mats, because if you were to sell the mats, you’d end up with more gold than the precursor is even worth. Why farm and waste the mats crafting something, when you could sell the mats get more gold, and buy the precursor with gold left-over?
As it stands with the prices now, it’s more cost-efficient to farm the mats and sell them, buy the precursor than it is to craft the precursor. Maybe in time it will be reversed, but as we are now, it’s a waste of time.
If it were to be the alternative method, it should be the cheaper method. Why consider an option that costs more gold and time than just selling the mats and buying it outright and still have gold to pocket? I was considering this method because of the random chance of getting the precursor through chests and such, but when you compare the gold cost to craft the item as opposed to just buying outright, you’re losing a lot of gold, and wasting a lot of time. It’s hardly an alternative method.
Alrighty, so I began this expansion thinking "how great it will be to just craft up the precursor rather than having to get super lucky/purchase it. And as I started making way through it, it dawned on me… This is the most useless system. Crafting the precursor is not cost efficient as opposed to just purchasing the precursor outright. On some legendary weapons I’d say this method just about saves some gold, but on the ones in which the precursor is only 300g-400g you’re better off just buying the kitten thing. Why go through the long process of unlocking the crafting, just to sink 200g in the first stage, then have to go through another long process of the second tier, sinking in another 100+ gold. Literally no point. Also, with all the ascended mats needed, it’ll take days of dailies/or gold (that you could have just used to buy the precursor in the first place) just to achieve.
I feel that they need to rethink the crafting process of the precursor just because it’s illogical to go through. The time it takes/the gold you sink into it just doesn’t make it worth crafting. Just go buy it. I’m working on meteorologicus and the precursor itself (first tier) took 15 spirit wood planks, and 10 elonian leather, which is 261ish gold, about 100g shy of the actual cost of the precursor. Second tier requires another 15 spirit wood planks which is another 150g, and if you’re crafting it all, that’s a month of dailies, when you could just farm the gold, and be done with it.
Terrible design on their part, there is literally no point in crafting the precursor, except the fact you can say you crafted it, which in itself is just stupid, waste of time, gold, and effort.
Orr, (Cursed Shore, Malchores Leap, Straights of Devastation) The most barren of zones in my entire server (Kaineng). The events here are never completed, and are pushed as far back as can be. No one ever does these events so the mobs here are plentiful and annoying. I’ll cut to the point. what’s the point of coming to Orr? My friends, you can easily go to Queensdale, or any 1-15 zone and Champ farm all day and get the same amount (probably more) than you would in Orr.. You get the same exp, gold, karma, and leveled loot, as you do in any zone, because it is level based. So why go through the constant stress of being immobilized, slowed, knocked down, knocked back, etc, just to complete an event that you could do in minutes in Queensdale? The only reason people even come to these zones are for the map completion, discovering Arah, or Orichalcum & Ancient Wood Logs.
I’d like to suggest some changes to make this land have more of an impact on the rest of the world (as it should due to lore reasons). And bring back some people to get rewards WELL WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT.
1) Have a World Event take place in the Cursed Shore, and spread throughout Malchore’s Leap, Straights of Devastation, and consume the other zones of Tyria, until the event is pushed back to the Heart of the Cursed Shore, or until the Leaders of ‘Destinies Edge’ are killed, and the queen is killed. Causing major side effects on the world.
a) this would stress the importance of making sure these events and sieges are dealt with, and would bring people back to Orr to prevent their beloved champion farming zones from being taken over and halt their gold making ways.
b) As a result of saving the entirety of Tyria, justifiable loot should be given, no greens, rares, or exotics, real loot, to make those who spent that time, stress, and effort to prevent Tyria from being consumed.
2) Give better loot, gold, and Karma to the events in the Orrian zones, so people would spend their time in the zones rather than in Queensdale farming champions all day. Because the loot is based on your level, there is no reason to go through the stress of the Orrian zones, because there’s no reason to. So making you receive a substantial amount of loot, better quality of loot, higher exp, gold, and tons more Karma, would give people more reason to fight off the Dragon’s Corruption.
I don’t know… I am just tired of walking through these zones, being the only one in them during peak hours, and being cc’d for days, having no one to do the Alter world events, get back some of the way points, and make Orr a little bit safer, and more fun to explore and travel through.
NOTE: These are just my thoughts/opinions, so please respond to them as such, it is the internet, and we are allowed to have differences in opinions… shocker right?