Guild Wars 2

not only engineer most of the classes got it hard , warriors aside

actually it was i always believed engy are on the very strong side of the game , but im not sure about their decision with rangers , a well played ranger could be very hard to take down …., not with less burst from other classes , rangers and warrior still very much on the strong side

warrior still shinning lol , so they nerfed most of the burst and left warrior …. , gg Anet

out of all nerfs , mesmer got the biggest imo , now the profession will take a bit of skill to be played well

Well Deserved and Finaly , and i play mesmer can take on 2v1 easy mode , now it’s challenging at least

Most Profession Got Nerfed
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-November-15-2012

I’m a dazelock thief , we cant lock them 100% although we can take a huge amont of their health before reacting , its just backstab build just a bit slower , if u make the math both build do the same one over a bit over time one pretty fast paced , but like other said backstab build will look easy against dazelock , u’re pretty much useless u can just move arround while dazed hoping u wont get die ^^

30k looooooooooooool , where are u getting that number from backstab out of ur kitten maybe …

steal,cnd,backstab,hs,hs is not a single attack

show me a single attack of backstab doing more than 8k post nerf of the signet of course

i’m a thief and that’s a buff to us not a nerf just use it before steal cnd backstab

well who wins the game is the most important == Bunkerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

i don’t want to get into this debate again , but one thing thief outside their burst are useless tottaly , and assasin signet + steal + cnd + backstabb will never kill a half decent balanced oppenent it might kill another burst spec ( might) , but if arenanet has to nerf thieves due to other whinning i suggest they get buff tto componsate or u can just delete the class , only baddies die to a backstab thief , there’s something called stunbreaks people gott to learn how to counter seriously before ruinning a fun class like thieves

Hsulf so a guardian himself Defending the FOTM States Of Guardians , Learn From Beethehunter where he cleary stated that bunker guardians are op as everyone knows by now , so let’s wait for next monday where the glorious patch is going to hit ^^

i wonder why everyone see a thief as a problem , thief a designed to be a glass-canon spec, we’re not meant to be tanks unless Anet Prooves otherwise , second of all why none yet see how powerfull and op bunker builds are in this capture the point mode , guardians >>>>>>>>>>>> thief and way more op

how happy u guys are with bunkers builds holding 3 players off the point and thus ruining balance , instead of whinning about thief , fix the glarring issues with tpvp , one example bunkers builds

come on fix it already , got it 2 times today in battle of kyhlo tpvp , it’s annoying when both teams are good , it just make u auto loose

People Stop Complaining about thief will u already , a thief outside stealth is a sitting duck , we basicaly have nothing outside stealth , if u nerf our backstab/stealth u’ve got to give us a huge buff to compensate or u will render us useless

Jonathan Sharp : the balance is fine guys don’t worry we dont want a knee jerk reaction

2 days after the patch hit massive nerf to few classes =)) lololol

are u really teaching me about thief , when im myself a rank 33 thief , a glass canon spec has 14k or 15 if he got a trait that convert 5% of precision into vitality that i corrected this for u , anymore questions ?

Shukran: thief are designed to be glass canon spec from the get go , we basically have no defense outside of stealth which u take damage still

so nerfing our damage will render the class useless , there wont be any need to take a thief to tourney , people complaining about thief burst they need to l2 dodge and l2p , they’re nothing but noobos

oh yeah thief is not rewarded yet, to be able to burst someone he needs to have his utility which gives him no slot for stunbreak or anything defensive and 14k hp is 2 much , am’i right ?

thief outside burst spec are suffering cause they have nothing going on for them , yeah they might be a good killer , that’s how the class is designed though kill or be killed 2 simple and it works

i’m really fed up Anet with ur piece of crap game , i’ve been trying to play this morning each game we have 2/3 afk and nothing we could do about them

whats the point of playing

we’ve been silent about the balance , but this afk kitten is really pissing a lot of people off , not everyone has a team u know and i don’t like to play with a team myself due to my tight schedule , so get a freaking afk system that ban people at least

Griffon.4716:

Doesn’t matter how much condition removal you think they have, you can almost always beat them with conditions. Get a necro with corrupt boons that can play well and bunker guardians melt. 2 guard has no mobility, and if they only have a mesmer camping their point you should be able to take that pretty easily, even if ele or engi reinforces, then you just push mid. Ignore your point and they are wasting 2 guards and its a 3v5.

to reply to u this is not how it’s played , the logic is very simple they camp 2 point and never goes to the third , for example gy and quary 2 of them has mobility so they keep moving between the 2 points and everyone knows by now 1 bunker guardian can hold 2 player for a quiet a while ( that’s where the unbalance is ) , all those bunker builds needs a huge look at

it wont do anything they will keep resurecting eachother , the game is turning into bunker builds festival , and it’s broken , let’s wait for the patch to nerf guardians tank ele and engi bunker atm u can;t do anything

if they really wanted to do that , they would have nerfed guardian thief and mesmers

The Devs Are Sleeping , Everyone Sing With Me

ITS Lagging Night Helleluah , It’s Lagging Night

on a serious note i do have massive lagg , since few days ago now

Ace , next time let lowell stream and capture the video , so we can see how his unicorn build will hold mid better than a guardian

and u people should start admitting that mesmers/guardians are a bit overthetop , im not saying the game is very badly balanced far from it , but there’s lots to be done to be perfectly balanced and ready for esport

i’ve seen the video , but sorry this is a joke , i don’t know how Anet still think Mesmer are fine , mesmer won the game pretty easy he comes help and portal to other node he goes to help treb portal to defend node , well fine if Anet think that’s fine and to have all those utility + huge dps + stealth in one class , than i don’t know what to say

i didnt even mention moa-morph and all their illusions , i believe mesmer needs a huge look at

lol at the people trying to protect/hide mesmer opness , yeah Jon

start with those classes and see where that take us from there

people should stop complaining about anything really ?

they complain and complain and complain about necromancer

and the fact is some necromancer builds can take anyone 1v1 and 2v1 actually

i just saw a pro necromancer called Aneete or whatever his name is taken me and a warrior 2v1 and

yeah Jon Peters Said when people start mastering DS build , he’s afraid of how powerfull necromancer are

and now people starting to master it i guess

so everyone complain and qq about thief , i’m scared thief and warrior and elementalist are a bit behind the rest of the classes

yeah glass canon builds kill only badies half decent player will never die to a glass canon

lol hahahahah , try that at the tournament see how far u would get

well ambush doesn’t trig 2 thief , or does it ? + how can he spawn them before getting inside the battle , and u gotta trigg the ambush to call a thief , i’m a thief so im kinda fimiliar with the mechanic , never used the ambush elite though , i dont find it appealing myself , however everything is possible the game is filled with buggs so who knows what the hell was happening in there :xD

on a side note i haven’t played as much as you in tpvp but i have like 280 wins out of i don’t know , and it wasn’t untill last night that i started to see some strange attitude like those described so yeah i played a lot

no no i attacked after i ressed the same person , cause last night one of thief kept spawning thief guild maybe 2 times in a fight which has a 90seconds cooldown , and i wanted to confirm , so 99% there’s hack i searched the net right now and i found something related to speed hack and other multi hacks for gw2 , so probably there’s hacks out there , lets hope those people gets the ban they deserve , the game is already full of botting and gold selling and other s……

Hello ,

i’m noticing an increase number of hacks , for example a thief player last night kept spawning thief guild elite which suppose to have a 90seconds cooldown

and today early morning i played another tpvp a game where a mesmer kept moa-morphing me every fight like 30 seconds between fight , as far as i know that elite skill has 3 or 4 minutes cooldown

can someone confirm , or there’s something that can reduce the cooldown of those elite and i’m not aware off

thanks

I Disagree with you , last night my team played 4v5 the whole tournament and eventually won it , i crashed early on in round 1 and couldnt join back till late r3 , the rest 4 in the group stomped the teams they faced , it was basically no challenge , that’s why i always say gw2 combat is deeper than anyone imagine it’s not about 1,2,3,4 its player brain vs player brain , yeah some classes perform better than other but im sure balance patches will come

nothing is really unkillable the battle couldnt turn upside down all it takes is 1 mistake and good timing on daze/stun/immobilize

the game could be good for esport let’s wait and see though

if anything thieves needs a buff not a nerf , u want something nerfed if i were u Qpla search for mesmers and guardians thieves are midiocore at best , stop this blah blah about thief and l2p

VictorTroska.3725:

In my oppinion, GW2 does not have what needed to be esport. Why? Simple really. I let me brother (who never played GW2) to watch one of my PvP game and this is what he said; “I really have no idea what is going on.”.

So I frapsed WoW arena game. “Bunch of people running around pillars, but I cant tell who is who and what are they doing to win”.

So lastly I frapsed Starcraft 2 game and he enjoyed it. It was easy to see units, it was clear not confusing and he said that it reminded of some Aliens movie battle as it was Zerg vs Terran.

Overall, he enjoyed watching SC2 quite a lot because it was simple to understand. While in gamemodes like WoW Arena or GW2 sPvP, its confusing and I got feeling that I was forcing him to watch something he didnt like. Sure it might not be confusing to people who play actual game but what makes great esport game is that you can watch it and never even play the game and still understand and enjoy it. GW2 does not have it.

I watch Erho stream quite often and I see him shooting with his pistol or rifle, jumping around but thats about it. From casual viewer you cant see what is truly happening on scene. I dont see him dodging blind or shooting critical skill that in my eyes is just another bullet. Sometimes he commentate his gameplay and tells what he does and why, but even then I hear it as “I dodged his mixmashwashwoo ability and applied woopiedoopie doo ability” because casual viewers have no idea what those abilities are. As much as I love this game and I wish it becomes good esport, in current state I wouldnt watch it even if they pay me. Its simple, make it more clear and tip to devs. Invite few people who never played GW2 and ask them to watch sPvP. If you tweak game that those people would definatelly watch it again, you got your esport. If they get this bitter taste of confusion then forget about esport.

what’s so simple about watching SC2 , i’ll give u few example , how would ur brother understand terran ghost using EMP on protoss army , or protoss storming the hell out of MMM Terran Army , ur logic is flawed my friend , either way if im going to watch gw2 or wow arena or sc2 or redalert3 , i need to have prior knowledge of the game to understand what’s really going on ? luckily i play all of them and i tell u this gw2 has a great potential of becoming an esport i haven’t spent that much hours doing pvp at high level since sc2 and red3 days , i find gw2 pvp at high level of play to be sokittenfun and good and the combat is extremely deep thus making it player brain vs player brain

despite the balance issues here and there , gw2 has potential

we really have more important issues than stealth atm , look at the mesmer and guardians do u think they are balanced ? stealth with thief is overrated , anyway it’s not our call whats to buff whats to nerf , it’s Anet Call , we have to wait and see whats comming in that pvp blog , if that’s comming , imo i highly doubt thief will be nerfed further

dreaming on guys , good players can kill thief really easy , it’s not meant as an offend no, but u really need to l2p , stealth detection is not needed , brain is

wrong just to clarify how thief vanish again into stealth , it’s a skill called clock and dagger needs cast time and needs to stay at the same place cause u cant cast it while running and third and most important at all if u move i miss it cause it has a low range , so yeah if u wanna nerf stealth fine by me , u have to compensate somewhere else , cause hard hitting thieves has 13k hp

now about mesmer they need a nerf to their huge hp pool which is by default 24.5k
that’s 11.5k more than thief almost double the hp , and decoy can be casted instantly

and mesmer doesn’t have to stand still , so now tell me which class needs a nerf ?

thief or mesmer ?

i play both

well his concerns are legit though , can we deny that ? not really

We Know We Know They Are Overpowered , nothing is being done cause Anet wants to fix the classes bug first , but this is huge mistakes load of people are loosing interest , guardians and mesmers both needs a look at to be less appealing atm they are really way strong

Mesmer 60% nerf
Guardians 30% nerf
thief a good among Something needs to be done about them ( i’am a thief btw )
rest are somehow balanced ==> ( balanced Professions )

U Wanna fix Mesmers ? Fine Easy To Fix Reduce Their Huge Health Point they’ve got 24,5k default , next change how decoy elite skill work , instead of stealthing the mesmer , should do something else , here mesmer are fixed , not annoying as before but still powerfull and strong for tpvp

i don’t know why they keep pushing pve fixes not really gives …. about it , fix the pvp already , start class balancing add skirmish for top teams so we can pratice together

thanks

Problem is not the thief , thief dies as fast as they kill , go watch guardians and mesmers overshadowing the rest of the classes , so if i was a dev i will take a close look at the design of the mesmer and guardians , retardilation anyone ?
on ur with bufffing look at necromancer

Guardians and mesmers has no weakness that’s the problem while both warriors and thief are glass cannon they still die just as fast as they kill , but what will u say about mesmers and guardians when they just refuse to die , all u have to do is to play one of them , i play mesmers in tournament and i dont even die , it’s just zzzzzzzz , i mean who don’t want challenge as mesmers stand there’s no challenge just faceroll

there’s only abvious unbalances when it comes to guardians and mesmers nerf those 2 classes will balance the whole game , as it is right now mesmer and guardians are overthetop rest of the class has pros and cons and almost tightly balanced between eachothers at high level of play , however guardians and mesmers needs a heavy look at

i’ve been playing the game since the last 2 beta’s i can tell u this

thief while its true they deal a lot of damage , they die just as fast , so no problem with the class in a balance point of view , that’s how they are designed

mesmers on the other hand i can’t say it’s working as intended i play the class by the way done hundred of tournament and i rarely die , although u don’t have to to nerf decoy to fix it , an easy fix is to reduce mesmer base health point 24,5k is a lot reduce it by 5k and the problem is solved , mesmers are balanced again

Hello ,
After The Latest Patch That Nerfed Heartseeker , the ability is bugged again , its 50% hit or miss , no im not talking about evading it , it just miss 50% of the time , and it’s crutial for us pvper so please we ask you to fix it kindly

thanks Anet