Guild Wars 2

fizzypop.6458:

Akhet.6527:

fizzypop.6458:

except “if they can’t not whipping about the gimme gimme gimme tears” put that with the title.

I must have skipped over that since it doesn’t make any grammatical sense and thus I couldn’t clearly decipher what he meant. I can guess but I would prefer not to do that since that presents its own handful of problems. I still find his post pretty tame, especially in comparison to the other garbage posted around here.

I don’t disagree. I just wouldn’t call it a positive post so me adding negativity to it really didn’t take anything away from the post. It was bound to go there anyways.

+1 For rationalizing ones behavior.

Snerf.1650:

Varen.8507:

Lol I think I like this thread more than the other one. I agree with the OP. People can try to argue about gambling issues or legality like in the other thread. What it comes down to is “I want something, and it seems like I can’t get it w/o more effort than I want to put it”. QQ

That’s not the case, but I guess feel free to oversimplify something and miss the point.

At the core, this is the issue. You can try to dress it up with whatever you want, but in the end if there wasn’t something here that you wanted it wouldn’t be an issue. You wouldn’t have came to the forum to complain about it.

Lol I think I like this thread more than the other one. I agree with the OP. People can try to argue about gambling issues or legality like in the other thread. What it comes down to is “I want something, and it seems like I can’t get it w/o more effort than I want to put it”. QQ

Drunken Mad King.8193:

Varen.8507:

To those saying they were not up front about the drop chances and its not fair, I would like to welcome you to the world of advertisement and commercialism. This is absolutely “fair”. Is it the correct thing to do to the player base? I don’t think so. However, they are able to do this. Saying its not fair sounds like a 3 year crying about how they didn’t get what they want for Christmas (ie GW2 skin).

Im not trying to troll or tell you your opinion is wrong, but you are obviously going about this the wrong way.

Wrong look at when companies do things like Win this or that… what do they have to state???

Chances. They have to state chances. Why because you are leading people to buy a product for a chance to win so you have to inform them of the chance. Did Arenanet do that? No, they simply stated a chance which means a much more reasonable chance then they actually put in.

I get rare chances in chests when fighting a Dragon. Yes it’s a rare chance for a sweet skin to drop. That I get and that is fair. They don’t have to say what the chance. However… when they lead groups of people on to buy a item that has a chance to have something in it… they better put the percentage in there.

Wrong man. See what’s in bold? That’s called an assumption. An assumption you made that happened to be incorrect. You cant call foul on someone because you made an incorrect assumption bro, thats on you.

munkiman.3068:

theerrantventure.9185:

This thread has over 24k views, amazing!

The system is fine. Chests are a gamble not a guarantee. Las Vegas exists with this principle in mind yet you rarely see people besmirching the city due to losses at the casinos. It’s expected you’re gonna lose so if you do win it’s exciting!

The system isn’t fine if it truly is considered gambling, since it’s pretty much illegal in almost all of the US and i’m sure other places as well. And yes, plenty of people besmirch Vegas, it is the city of sin after all.

Seriously man, the illegal argument is not gonna pan out for ya.

To those saying they were not up front about the drop chances and its not fair, I would like to welcome you to the world of advertisement and commercialism. This is absolutely “fair”. Is it the correct thing to do to the player base? I don’t think so. However, they are able to do this. Saying its not fair sounds like a 3 year crying about how they didn’t get what they want for Christmas (ie GW2 skin).

Im not trying to troll or tell you your opinion is wrong, but you are obviously going about this the wrong way.

Kimbald.2697:

This whole thread proves something very clear.
And it’s not who is right or who is wrong.

It proves that it doesn’t even matter which side is right:

the people who are complaining are exactly those people who supported Anet by buying chests.
They are the customers they rely on beyond initial purchase of the game.

Well, it’s clear they kitten them of somewhat

That’s not smart business. And it puts the game in a very bad light.

If you kitten of your best paying customers, it hardly matters if others come to defend you.
You made a bad decision at that point.
And this goes beyond who is right or wrong in this thread.

LOL WHAT?!?!? This is a reasonable post. This is how someone that is upset with the situation should respond, and something anet should take into consideration. Not OMG I DIDN’T GET WHAT I WANTED! Thanks.

taomang.2183:

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Why do so many people on these forums feel entitled to immediately own every item that gets added to the game, no matter how rare?

I’m glad there are rare items. If everyone had everything then no one would be able to stand out and no one would even care about appearance (effectively making all skins and dyes worthless).

Why do so many people on these forums feel like there cant be other way of obtaining the items, no matter how rare?

I’m glad there are rare items. If everyone had everything then people would be able to make a character that they want and no one would care about other people’s characters appearance (which is the case right now).

You can, save up G and buy it off the TP or farm keys so you dont have to buy them off the gem store. You can even turn that G into gems and buy keys. Other ways, just not as easy as you would like it.

Kristine Heath.1483:

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Why do so many people on these forums feel entitled to immediately own every item that gets added to the game, no matter how rare?

I’m glad there are rare items. If everyone had everything then no one would be able to stand out and no one would even care about appearance (effectively making all skins and dyes worthless).

there can be rare items. temporary fun holiday events shouldnt include them. its meant to be fun for everyone to enjoy, not an elite few.

why does everyone throw around the word entitled like it’s going to make them seem smarter?

There is so much in this event that you can participate with w/o these few skins. You focus on what you want, and only that. This is why people use the word entitled, because that’s how people are acting.

Snerf.1650:

My thread should not be merged into this topic. It is about the gambling nature of the holiday event, not about what some guy got when opening his chests.

Same issue?

I do have a serious question to those that are supa salty bout this. So they listen to the QQ and up the drop rate. Do you think they can just give everyone keys back or something? I hope they up the drop rate, then 5 mins later you see another QQ thread as long as this one about how “it doesn’t help me I’ve already used my keys”. What do you expect to get out of this thread? Honestly.

munkiman.3068:

I’m wondering if this is even legal…. Isn’t it actually gambling to sell a product for real world money based on chance of an item that one considers valuable? I imagine it’s a thin line when you are talking about digital items, but i would think that a company cannot make a profit based on chance.

Lol come on bro.. you buy the game and you have a random chance of loot on every mob. So by your reasoning any MMO is illegal.

Honestly the QQ to this is hilarious to me.. how could you not see this coming? What made anyone thing you would open 5,10, even 20 chests and you would get a RARE event specific skin? Random is random. They owe you nothing. Do you ask Mega Millions for your money back when you dont win the jackpot or even $5? If the concept of this upsets you that is understandable, but they still dont owe you jack kitten. I will open some chests, probably will get nothing, then will go about my business. I understand the risks, just dont care that much. Again, random is random.