Guild Wars 2

You guys are cute.

Eviator.9746:

Vashti.8179:

I see the awesomeness. It’s when the guardian laughs and then the thief beats him and his buddy 1v2.

Any you know for a fact he’s laughing at the thief and not just emoting about something with his underleveled buddy. And not only this, but everything that happened in this video is typical DB. There is no objectivity there. None. Moving on.

Well golly, I guess I knew it since the video was captioned and it says, “here he is laughing at me.”

Your entire point is irrelevant. The video wasn’t posted to showcase some faceroll thief awesome sauce. It was posted to highlight the fact that yes, DB do in fact jump on the emote train. The 1v2 (technically 1v2.5 since after the first guy dies the second one runs to the sentry) was just icing on the cake.

Now quick! Hurry up and get the last word before the matchup ends!!

Eviator.9746:

JakobGW.5730:

Here’s a quick video of just two hours this morning that I made of your typical Dragonbrand players. This is what I had to deal with all week long when I struck gold and actually found a Dragonbrand player or two not zerging. Emotes like /laughing when they couldn’t walk the talk or had numbers advantage, running to guards or behind doors, doing anything to avoid any actual conflict instead of karma grinding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsuOFojb4A

Trust me, this is just par for the course for this server. I, for one, hope we don’t have to face them again anytime soon.

What am I seeing here? So solo-specced faceroll thief beats group-specced DB players who likely have relatively little dueling experience. I fail to see the awesomeness. At least Waffler has the decency to prove his awesomeness running a solo-specced condi necro.

I see the awesomeness. It’s when the guardian laughs and then the thief beats him and his buddy 1v2.

FrankieBonez.8361:

JakobGW.5730:

Darko.5873:

But I have to say, DB and SoS, you are some classy folk. Not a single /laugh or /dance or anything like that.

Are we even in the same matchup?

Here’s a quick video of just two hours this morning that I made of your typical Dragonbrand players. This is what I had to deal with all week long when I struck gold and actually found a Dragonbrand player or two not zerging. Emotes like /laughing when they couldn’t walk the talk or had numbers advantage, running to guards or behind doors, doing anything to avoid any actual conflict instead of karma grinding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBsuOFojb4A

Trust me, this is just par for the course for this server. I, for one, hope we don’t have to face them again anytime soon.

Does anyone roam with something other than a thief these days?

Yes.

Chris.3290:

Vashti.8179:

Chris.3290:

Just once, I’d like when I come across Jakob’s crew when I’m by myself; I’d like them to make it a one on one rather than a team gank. You’d probably win since I’m usually traited for group tactics, but I like the occasional 1v1.

Eviator, are you a necro? I had a good 1v1 with a rB necro this weekend and just after I eek’d out and downed him, his buddies (non-rB) showed up and ruined it.

No offense but you’ve trashed talked us A LOT in the past. Don’t think we don’t know your tag and don’t think we aren’t out for blood when we see you.

That being said, several of our guys are happy to have some duels from time to time. If that’s something you really want then I’d suggest PM’ing someone about it when you’re online to see if anyone has any interest.

Yeah, because I don’t see how doing 6v1’s is fun for anyone. Seriously though, surround a guy, and make him fight each one of you 1v1 until either he’s earned his escape or is downed. If he runs, take him out or if he brings friends, yeah take them out quickly.

I got to give credit to those rB guys. They were doing the same thing you were, only they were up for a fight all the time. They just didn’t give a rip and would take you on if you were 2 people or a full 15.

Are you fo realz? So if we have 7 of us running havoc and we run across a lone roamer, we should surround him in a circle and assign one guy to fight him all the while hoping a zerg doesn’t pop up from around the corner and steam roll us? Or wait, maybe we could quickly take him down and move on to our objective so as to not remain in one place for too long. Yeah I like that idea better.

But I digress. My point was simply this: killing you is fun because of all the trash talk you did about us. Whether 1v1 or 6v1. The fact that you’re complaining about us killing you 6v1…well that makes it even sweeter.

Chris.3290:

Just once, I’d like when I come across Jakob’s crew when I’m by myself; I’d like them to make it a one on one rather than a team gank. You’d probably win since I’m usually traited for group tactics, but I like the occasional 1v1.

Eviator, are you a necro? I had a good 1v1 with a rB necro this weekend and just after I eek’d out and downed him, his buddies (non-rB) showed up and ruined it.

No offense but you’ve trashed talked us A LOT in the past. Don’t think we don’t know your tag and don’t think we aren’t out for blood when we see you.

That being said, several of our guys are happy to have some duels from time to time. If that’s something you really want then I’d suggest PM’ing someone about it when you’re online to see if anyone has any interest.

eithinan.9841:

Just needed to put this here. I would be embarrassed if this squishy got away from me on my thief.

I guess I don’t understand this post. Why did you “need” to put this here? To show that a CD invader couldn’t kill you? GG I guess. Like Jakob said, maybe the guy was trying out a new build, or perhaps the guy is running full PVT gear to go for a tanky build. Or yeah, maybe he’s just not that good. News flash: every server has some not-so-good players along with some really outstanding players. Pointing them all out on the forums though really doesn’t achieve anything. And no, before you ask or imply that this is me, I run a mesmer.

I just don’t understand the point of this post other than to troll for the sake of trolling. /shrug

Mr Eighty Seven.5263:

Shonie.5297:

Mr Eighty Seven.5263:

Just want to say good try to CD’s [KWBH] and SBI’s [UNI] for the 3 attempted ambushes along the lower road between NE and N camp on our 3 man [TOAD] in CD BL.

That’s pretty amazing! How did you pull it off?

Well we had just taken NE camp and were heading to north camp when we noticed a [KWBH] thief jump down from a cliff to our left as we approached the land formation with the wolves on top of it. Realizing he must hav back up if he engaged so recklessly, I looked up and saw 5 more thieves at the top of the cliff. I rtled over to the base of the cliff and tagged the next two thieves who came down so that they were down to prob about 50% health right away. The fight lasted around 10 mins as the ones we killed first spawn rushed and they got a couple more thieves as the fight progressed, but we managed to score 2 lucky rallies from the nearby wolves to secure the win. As I scored the last stomp, I looked around to see if more were coming. Surprisingly, [UNI] emerged from the underpass of the land formation with the wolves. They had a mes, guard, ranger, and an upleveled guard (not sure if the upleveled was in their guild) against our 2 eles and mes so it was a pretty even fight although some of our skills were still on cd. It was vital that we noticed them as they all must hav been full zerk with the damage they were able to do. We traded stomps on the 2 guards for our other ele. The key moment followed as the remaining mes and ranger kited in different directions and so allowed us to pick the match ups we wanted (ele vs mes) (mes vs ranger) while remaining closer to each other than the enemies if one of us ended up needing help. We ended up winning the separate 1v1s anyway. After reviving our ele, we continued on our path. Along the path with a cliff to the left and the centaurs to the right, we noticed the original KWBH thief on the cliff to the left. Realizing again that he must not be alone, we took the time to check all around for his support. Where the cliff on the left ends was KWBH peering around the corner. (I was so honored that they waited for us) Not knowing exactly what their numbers were, we forced their hand as our mesmer was able to pull down the KWBH thief and down him quickly. They rushed to us too late and we were able to handle their 4 other thieves, nec, and guard. Our mesmer felt it was a good time to celebrate by playing his horn while I buried the dead and payed my respects.

TO BE CONTINUED

Waffler.1257:

Sil.4560:

Well, time to log on and see how much PvDooring was done by CD again while I slept. It would be really cool if primetimes were all around the same times.

Doors are no joke.

Old school FF! Those screenshots make me think of this:

Which subsequently tackles the mysterious subject of furry animals dropping weapons.

UrMom.4205:

Waffler.1257:

stinkypants.8419:

What gives? I’m at work and need more chest thumping and PvF!

CD is terrible, all their roamers run unless it’s at least 4v1 and their zergs do nothing but turtle in towers. They would be last place if it wasn’t for their night capping bads.

what server are you on?

I think he’s on Maguuma.

Sil.4560:

Perphection.8209:

If you’d like a fair fight I’ll gladly accept. PM me anytime.

Hahaha. You’ve proven to me that you only care about wandering in a little karma train to take out loners while camping a camp to protect a whopping +5 PPT. I’ve already seen what I need from our equal number encounters with your group; “fair fight” is not a concept that you seem capable of grasping and I’d not waste my time with you.

Oh, and while you were supposedly helping your server by trolling the N camp:

You’ve posted this picture like, 3 times already. You got our garrison for a tick. Great job??

So is there a leader of a guild called KAK on EB? If so please message me but I have a feeling it’s a one-man guild…

saiyr.3071:

Our numbers came from an icon count so if anyone can’t count it’s you guys vOv

How on earth do you guys have time to perform an “icon count” while simultaneously PvFing on the forums and wiping us bad CD’ers? Impressive indeed.

By the way DORP, I think you guys misplaced one of your asuras. Don’t hate on mah mad paint skillz.

Pinko.2076:

EvilSardine.9635:

Pinko.2076:

EvilSardine.9635:

Wow, good fights at Vale!

EK steamrolled that DREP zerg over and over again. Gotta give props to DREP for keeping their chin up and trying some more.

We had 25 against what we were told by CD was 50, and CD sat in the camp behind carts and ballistas we had to keep killing.

If CD wants to know their weakness, it’s that they won’t move without a queue behind them during NA, while other servers are splitting into 20/30 mans. EK probably didn’t want a million pubbies nuthugging them at SW camp, but that’s definitely what happened.

Nah. It was pretty even.

What guild are you in?

I think he’s in that one called DREP or something? I don’t know.

Pinko.2076:

EvilSardine.9635:

Wow, good fights at Vale!

EK steamrolled that DREP zerg over and over again. Gotta give props to DREP for keeping their chin up and trying some more.

We had 25 against what we were told by CD was 50, and CD sat in the camp behind carts and ballistas we had to keep killing.

If CD wants to know their weakness, it’s that they won’t move without a queue behind them during NA, while other servers are splitting into 20/30 mans. EK probably didn’t want a million pubbies nuthugging them at SW camp, but that’s definitely what happened.

Counting must not be maggies’ strong suit…

saiyr.3071:

That was pretty amusing at your spawn, FKVA, with all of those mesmers and thieves. How many did you guys have? It was so hard to tell!!

45. Just kidding – 6 mes I think and a couple thieves.

Chris.3290:

JakobGW.5730:

Chris.3290:

As for the thing with Jakob, I thought he was referencing a small skirmish at our north camp yesterday. He either remembers it totally differently or there was another time he found siege at one of our camps and felt robbed of more easy pickings.

If it is a different incident then I apologize, because the fight I was referencing saw the FEAR/TKVM retreat despite having numerical superiority. All three parties discussed were there and it was the only time we sieged up a camp on Sunday.

Before spouting off, please review the date stamp of the post you’re attempting to troll. This will help prevent you from looking like an assmonkey.

Based upon your absolute failure at observing details (see above), I can guarantee that neither FEAR nor TKVA run from fights despite having numerical superiority.

Good try, sir.

Edit: Also, apparently you weren’t up to my challenge regarding that 6 v 2 boasting I allegedly do?

Oh well, I guess I had the date wrong. Either way, it was a carbon copy situation and it still addresses your MO. Maybe because you weren’t their to inspire them was the reason they booked it out of there.

Ask your fanboy Vashti what hell he’s talking about. I counted 11 FEAR/TKVM yesterday, though maybe you picked up 1-2 stragglers. You can always blame the cut and run on them!

As for not addressing the 6 vs 2; I’m sorry I didn’t quote you. You are on the forums talking about everything else; though all I’ve ever seen you do is pick off stragglers and cap undefended camps.

I simply found it hilarious that you had to come on here and complain about a camp being defended.

A). I am no fanboy, I am his wife.

B). I am making a point at how silly you look claiming that we brag about 6v2 or 10v3. If we are running around with 10 people and happen across 2 or 3 guys, yeah we’re going to kill them. Sorry, red = dead. What we’re not going to do (and do not do) is hop on the forums and brag about it. We understand that a 10v2 isn’t some great feat.

C). It’s TKVA. If you’re going to troll us, get our tags correct.

D). We don’t run from even fights. Not in the least bit. What happens a lot at that North camp is that it starts out as an even fight and slowly more enemies trickle in from their spawn. We will end up downing and pinning people only to have them release and run back – meanwhile more enemies begin to trickle in and we become overwhelmed. I guess we could stay and fight when we are now outnumbered and the guards are respawning. Or we could cut our losses and go try to make a difference elsewhere.

Now I’m sure you’ll need to get the last word in tell us how awful we all are and how CD doesn’t put up a good fight (and so on and so forth). Feel free to say whatever you wish, this will be the last time I give you anymore attention.

JakobGW.5730:

Edit: Also, apparently you weren’t up to my challenge regarding that 10 v 2 boasting we allegedly do?

So this one time, me and 37 others in my FEAR/TKVA havoc squad were taking camps and stuff and we saw these two upleveled guys and we killed them. I forgot to take screenies but trust me when I say that it was pretty epic.

Chris.3290:

Toxic.4320:

EK actively hunts and fights open field every night, Chris. What’s with your contempt? Salty tears?

Other than a few stragglers from failed siege I haven’t seen you guys yet. I’ll look for you now.

What contempt? I just haven’t gotten a good brawl against CD yet.

Calling CD “low hanging fruit” isn’t showing contempt?

Chris.3290:

I will say that SBI has been a beast in EB this weekend. I know you guys had some crowning moments of awesome during our weeks long slugfest, but you guys didn’t let up this weekend.

We even tried to tempt you with low hanging CD fruit, but you obviously wanted a piece of our pie. I logged on for the complete disaster (from our perspective) when all our PvE’rs were just sitting in SM while you guys capped everything else. Shout out to TS and Kurtis for setting things straight and reversing that mess.

Seeing SBI spawn camping gave me flashbacks from December when WM would push our stuff in.

CD…seeing a lot of fresh faces on your end, but you guys aren’t much for the open-field combat. I’d like to have some fights with you guys that weren’t around towers and stuff. At least you…most of you keep your eyes on the ball.

Your contempt for CD makes me giggle. I have a feeling you are routinely stomped by CD players thus creating the source of your bitterness. It’s really nothing to get so uptight over though – in the end it’s only pixels.

Chris.3290:

JakobGW.5730:

SoS, please don’t ruin this week by simply placing a kitten ton of siege in camps and hide behind it when 3 CD roll up against 5+ SoS and upgraded guards in the camp. Come out and fight!

The primary culprits are [Fang] and [Bane]. Grow some balls!

This from the guy who takes 10+ people, all load up into complete glass cannon/escape builds, and goes into empty borderlands and picks off stragglers. Then you come onto the forums and brag about your 6vs2 victories.

I noticed you guys were conspicuously absent during the matchup with TC, I guess not enough people not traveling in groups for your tastes.

Half of your team was thieves but you couldn’t take out one AC and Ballista when facing a group you outnumbered?

The worst part is that you felt the need to complain about it on here, because we moved out and you capped the camp uncontested not even 3 minutes later. You must have been one of the people we ran down like a dog when you guys ran from the camp.

The WORST part, is that you guys had gone up in my estimation before your QQ session here. I was thinking "not a bad strategy, tying up camps and supply while their main group went elsewhere.
It wasn’t strategy though, you just wanted some great 10vs3 fights to come here and brag about.

Hi. You sound really angry. Also TWO worst parts?? I dun get it.

Mordecai.6318:

And who is this Jakob guy that is so famous?

I am Spartacus!!!11oneone

Oh sorry, wrong thread.

Maladon.5760:

Mordecai.6318:

Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

That screenshot validates infinitely more of what I said that any of your terrible attempts to save face. You just admitted to not even being apart of that group in the screenshot making it at least 9 from your guild alone, not 3 as mentioned earlier. I must be lying though.

Also, I never refuge unless I absolutely have to. So I was more than likely low on initiative or needed that stealth to regen from something. The majority of the refuge’s were trying to res the necro I was originally with for the first 40 minutes or so. Don’t get me confused either with the other thief that joined me for the last hour or so after my necro friend left. I 1v1ed or 1vXed every person in there from that GS ranger, all the mesmers, the guardians, and the warriors.

Your efforts to defend yourself and your guild are as a terrible as the performance in the puzzle. You have nothing more than LOLYOUREFUGEDASATHIEF. Terrible.

I was not with the 9 below, because I was at the top watching. And that screenshot you have, merely shows 9 people infront of you, I don’t see any dead bodies, and if you killed so many, wouldn’t we have came at you at the spawn? I know what I saw, and you know what you did, just a thief running around from the dome area, to the spawn point. Paint a beautiful picture of yourself all you want, it only makes you look silly. Btw, I main a thief, I really LMAO when you used the SR in the middle of no where and ran away from a hopeless guardian.

Oh well, like I said, if it makes you feel good doing up a story, good for ya

Hey, Jakob, this guy can take on 10 of us, if you looking for a challenge, this is one for you

You really are that dense aren’t you? That group did come from the spawn point. Shortly after I respawned from my one death, my friend and I picked off a few random SBI and CD. At that point that group that initially killed me ended up at the spawn. The mesmer’s pulled us down and it ended up with you guys killing my friend and me getting away. This fight happened down the first set of stairs from the spawn. At which point, I killed a few randoms that managed to separate themselves looking for me while that large group sat and waited for a port. That’s where the SS came in.

By the way, I only roamed around the dome area because my friend got pulled off the edge by temporal curtain near the fire trap at the end. I jumped down to assist. With how many of you there were running around, making it back to the traps would have been a waste of time. I am really glad that you called your guardian hopeless though. I couldn’t help but think the same thing as I rez’d the necro I was originally with twice under his feet.

What I don’t understand is how you automatically attribute me using stealth as running. I don’t write in a diary each time I use SR and why, but like I said before, I only use it when I need it so it was more than likely to allow me to reset myself. It doesn’t matter though, really. At some point you probably died to me, and based on who seemed the most adamant on killing me I’d place my bets on you being that kittenty ranger. Could be wrong though.

And who is this Jakob guy that is so famous? I haven’t heard of him on the forums, in game, or anywhere for that matter and I played your server for over a month straight and roamed everyday. So famous he has to be proclaimed by some other nobody from a nobody server. Jakob that one famous “Crystal Desert Invader.”

Still awful.

You assmonkeys are killing this thread…

This made me lol. Assmonkey might just be my new favorite word.

Mordecai.6318:

Marquiz.7625:

Mordecai.6318:

That screenshot validates infinitely more of what I said that any of your terrible attempts to save face. You just admitted to not even being apart of that group in the screenshot making it at least 9 from your guild alone, not 3 as mentioned earlier. I must be lying though.

Also, I never refuge unless I absolutely have to. So I was more than likely low on initiative or needed that stealth to regen from something. The majority of the refuge’s were trying to res the necro I was originally with for the first 40 minutes or so. Don’t get me confused either with the other thief that joined me for the last hour or so after my necro friend left. I 1v1ed or 1vXed every person in there from that GS ranger, all the mesmers, the guardians, and the warriors.

Your efforts to defend yourself and your guild are as a terrible as the performance in the puzzle. You have nothing more than LOLYOUREFUGEDASATHIEF. Terrible.

I was not with the 9 below, because I was at the top watching. And that screenshot you have, merely shows 9 people infront of you, I don’t see any dead bodies, and if you killed so many, wouldn’t we have came at you at the spawn? I know what I saw, and you know what you did, just a thief running around from the dome area, to the spawn point. Paint a beautiful picture of yourself all you want, it only makes you look silly. Btw, I main a thief, I really LMAO when you used the SR in the middle of no where and ran away from a hopeless guardian.

Oh well, like I said, if it makes you feel good doing up a story, good for ya

Hey, Jakob, this guy can take on 10 of us, if you looking for a challenge, this is one for you

You really are that dense aren’t you? That group did come from the spawn point. Shortly after I respawned from my one death, my friend and I picked off a few random SBI and CD. At that point that group that initially killed me ended up at the spawn. The mesmer’s pulled us down and it ended up with you guys killing my friend and me getting away. This fight happened down the first set of stairs from the spawn. At which point, I killed a few randoms that managed to separate themselves looking for me while that large group sat and waited for a port. That’s where the SS came in.

By the way, I only roamed around the dome area because my friend got pulled off the edge by temporal curtain near the fire trap at the end. I jumped down to assist. With how many of you there were running around, making it back to the traps would have been a waste of time. I am really glad that you called your guardian hopeless though. I couldn’t help but think the same thing as I rez’d the necro I was originally with twice under his feet.

What I don’t understand is how you automatically attribute me using stealth as running. I don’t write in a diary each time I use SR and why, but like I said before, I only use it when I need it so it was more than likely to allow me to reset myself. It doesn’t matter though, really. At some point you probably died to me, and based on who seemed the most adamant on killing me I’d place my bets on you being that kittenty ranger. Could be wrong though.

And who is this Jakob guy that is so famous? I haven’t heard of him on the forums, in game, or anywhere for that matter and I played your server for over a month straight and roamed everyday. So famous he has to be proclaimed by some other nobody from a nobody server. Jakob that one famous “Crystal Desert Invader.”

Still awful.

Hi. You sound really angry.

Johje Holan.4607:

Well good, the kitten contest actually turned into a debate about strategy – if you can read through the chest thumping.

Siege in a camp is nothing new and a completely valid tactic and can be part of an overall strategy. It helps the server in many ways.

It’s designed to do exactly what it did – prevent a havoc squad from taking the camp easily. It also allows a few people to hold off a larger enemy force longer until reinforcments to arrive. It provides PPT and a base for supply for your troops and upgrades.

As far as coming out and fighting 3 people, eh, that’s a situational judgement call. Depends on if you feel like it or not. But if your team is counting on you staying at that camp and protecting it – then it would hurt your server to abandon your post to go have a 3v3 or whatever.

Regarding yak and sentry points – has Anet publised the actual points that they add to your score? I’ve seen the end of the match pie charts that show the points – and it looks quite substantial – but I’ve never found a formula or anything.

They add 3 points to the team that lands the killing blow. I believe they used to be worth more points the closer they were to a tower or keep (I’m not certain how much more) but the patch listed below adjusted it to 3 points regardless of location.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-April-30-2013/first#post1927551

Luvpie.8350:

Vashti.8179:

Luvpie.8350:

Vashti.8179:

Ghedoriah.4290:

I think I also miss the old SoS/CD/SBI threads where there wasn’t so much pointless flaming. >.>

Seriously, when did folks start complaining about such petty things in this matchup? I can kinda see where people come from when they complain about much larger zergs dropping siege mid-battle, because it can be a bit of a kitten move mid-battle if everyone came to the zerg fight just to zerg. Although I’m sure all three worlds in this match still make regular use of that tactic. Supply camps though? It’s a fairly acceptable defensive tactic as a world doesn’t usually have 5+ people spare to defend every single camp. Either you advertised your position and where you were going, the supply camp was considered important or you just got plain unlucky. Either way, the siege was probably put down at the time it was last recapped and you didn’t value your health that much if you ran into a camp with those odds and siege on display. Such is the life of a havoc group – tick, pass, move on to the next objective.

No one really minds that much. Yeah people post about it, but for the most part it’s all in good fun and just some mild trash talk. It’s to be expected and it’s all in good fun and let’s face it, a little bit of trash talk is to be expected from all sides.

But then you have a guy come in and start calling people stupid and terrible and you’re going to upset some folks. I mean, c’mon, really? And that guy is a commander? Completely clkitten.

Edit: Cl@ss. Less. Can’t believe it filters that.

as opposed to calling people out and saying to grow balls is super classy. I wasn’t going to post but you and your roamer friend need things spelled out.

We could spend the time to chase you around map but that not fun for us and doesn’t benefit our server. So we bunker down the camps so you great players don’t deny our upgrading keeps supply. If you can’t understand a simple concept like upgrading camps/keeps eh.

You and your friend are playing a totally different game then the rest. You design your specs to be able to escape from numbers and usually place classes that are survival op – bunker ele, thieves, warriors. You rely on your ability to run away when you know fight’s not in your favor. You are excellent at picking off doliaks and stragglers though. grats on that btw.

Also if you are really that good start a team of spvp and play tourneys cuz that is small scale with even numbers. What you find yourself doing most of time is 3v1 or 3v2 or 3vs doliak in which case you really aren’t that great. Now go back to killing uplevels or picking of stragglers. We will talk to you when you do something of worth in wvw. peace.

We don’t even roam with an ele! Gosh you’re so stupid! (And terrible).

Just the response I expected. There is a reason I don’t respond on forums. Enjoy your free doliak kills o great cd roamers.

Is that why a quick search of your name brings up 8+ pages of posts? Because you don’t respond?? And thanks I will very much enjoy my DOLYAK kills. And my [Fang] kills.

Ghedoriah.4290:

I think I also miss the old SoS/CD/SBI threads where there wasn’t so much pointless flaming. >.>

Seriously, when did folks start complaining about such petty things in this matchup? I can kinda see where people come from when they complain about much larger zergs dropping siege mid-battle, because it can be a bit of a kitten move mid-battle if everyone came to the zerg fight just to zerg. Although I’m sure all three worlds in this match still make regular use of that tactic. Supply camps though? It’s a fairly acceptable defensive tactic as a world doesn’t usually have 5+ people spare to defend every single camp. Either you advertised your position and where you were going, the supply camp was considered important or you just got plain unlucky. Either way, the siege was probably put down at the time it was last recapped and you didn’t value your health that much if you ran into a camp with those odds and siege on display. Such is the life of a havoc group – tick, pass, move on to the next objective.

No one really minds that much. Yeah people post about it, but for the most part it’s all in good fun. It’s to be expected and it’s really just some mild trash talk and let’s face it, a little bit of that is to be expected from all sides in most match ups.

But then you have a guy come in and start calling people stupid and terrible and you’re going to upset some folks. I mean, c’mon, really? And that guy is a commander? Completely clkitten.

Edit: Cl@ss. Less. Can’t believe it filters that.

JakobGW.5730:

fishball.7204:

Tbh you guys aren’t even worth responding to because you’re terrible but I guess here’s to hoping this post improving your terrible WvW skills a little bit.

It would be nice if you could help your troops stay alive a little while longer. Only 5 wxp? Terrible.

Oh that guy. I killed him at least 3 times. He’s not that good.

fishball.7204:

Quit crying

/15chars

Such a thoughtful and insightful post. Thank you for your insight and your contribution to this discussion.

[BEAR] is it? Cool. You’ll see us over your dead body very soon.

Merendel.7128:

JakobGW.5730:

SoS, please don’t ruin this week by simply placing a kitten ton of siege in camps and hide behind it when 3 CD roll up against 5+ SoS and upgraded guards in the camp. Come out and fight!

The primary culprits are [Fang] and [Bane]. Grow some balls!

You havent seen the horrors we’ve seen over the last 5 weeks. the 3 TC/DB/SOR players that suddenly morph into a 20+ zergball in an instant. Yes openfield/camp siege may be overkill vs you guys but there’s no reason to get complacent. Complacency leads to bad habits which leads to getting crushed even harder next week when the RNG throws us back against one of the top4. Besides if the siege is there may as well use it.

Weaksauce lame excuse. CD has recently been matched with both DB and TC (and FA) and never has our havoc group built siege camps to take out opposition that had lesser numbers. (This is not to say other CD haven’t, only that WE haven’t).

This post reads like you think CD would morph into some huge zerg-ball but surely you should know better than that seeing as how we all faced off for something like 6 weeks in a row? CD rarely has anything bigger than a 30 man zerg on any of the borderlands save for reset night.

Not a precursor, but got this from a rank chest hitting level 76. Nice to get an ascended instead of a green for once, but yeah….magic find.

wish.1027:

Vashti.8179:

Now please come back at me with all your “QQ’s” and “L2P’s” since that seems to be the only argument you can come up with.

I dont need a better argument, Im using the one the DEV used in response to all the QQs about thief in PVP. He said thieves are predictable and easy to kill because of it, all you have to do is learn their mechanics. I dunno why is this so difficult a concept for some people to comprehend. Especially people who have thief leveled up to 80. Take your QQs somewhere else, most people in the thief foruma re tired of it, and would rather have constructive threads on top than this garbage all the time.

Your ability to respond to a post without actually addressing any of the main points of said post is highly impressive. I give you a B+ on your trolling efforts. I would’ve given you an A, but you only used the term QQ twice in your last response and any proper troll post needs at least four QQ’s.

wish.1027:

JakobGW.5730:

wish.1027:

JakobGW.5730:

Before you comment that I’m a glass cannon

I found your problem, and you even acknowledge it. Youre a GC character, youre not allowed to complain when someone bursts you down in 2 seconds.

This post is a perfect example of the problem with our thief community. Thieves like this guy don’t even read. When did I ever complain about getting bursted down in 2 seconds. Never. I was simply commenting on how the thief in the video used what many posters have said in the past is a broken mechanic. You, somehow, read somewhere that I was complaining about being bursted down in 2 seconds. . . .

My bad, you were QQing because he can hide in stealth and you cant just take your lame zerker spec and down him with no effort and you have to actually try to fight him, but you cant… because he bursts you down in 2 seconds. Your post is a good example of the fake thief community, the people who say “I play thief and stealth is OP, and I know, because I am a thief and that makes what I say valid.” When clearly, this is not the case and you have no idea what you’re doing. I think the problem here is you need to L2P and quit QQing on the forums.

JakobGW.5730:

wish.1027:

How does someone even follow you on thief for 35 minutes? I can lose anyone in 10 second on sword/dagger. Seriously…

/facepalm. Again, reading comprehension. Nowhere did I ever say I was trying to lose this guy. Any thief can easily lose someone. I, unlike you apparently, like to go into WvW to fight, not run. I even mentioned that we had several fights where he was almost killed but used the BP + HS combo to reset the fight.

What possible benefit have you brought to this discussion? Shoo, go away, pest.

I, unlike you, recognize a waste of time and lack of getting kills. If I fight someone for 5 minutes and cant kill them and they cant kill me, I leave, and go find other people to fight. Because I, unlike you, like to kill people. The last thing I would do is let them stalk me for 35 minutes then record them killing me and make a giant QQ post on the forums about it.

So what have you brought to any discussion? Nothing? Shoo, go away, pest.

Honestly, you’re the one who comes across as the “QQ’er” in all this. You don’t like the fact that someone has some valid points about certain problems with stealth so your instant reaction is “zomg noobzers L2P u so bad lawl.”

His first post is pretty straight forward and matter-of-fact. He clearly states that he understands the risk he takes running his current gear setup. He makes some pretty valid points about why he thinks stealth stacking is bad for the game and then he uses the video as evidence to back up his argument. I never once read that he thinks stealth is “OP” as you claim he says and I never saw him kittening about getting killed. The whole point of the video is to show how long a thief can stay in stealth.

Now please come back at me with all your “QQ’s” and “L2P’s” since that seems to be the only argument you can come up with.

MIrra.3604:

Vashti.8179:

MIrra.3604:

JakobGW.5730:

Zacchary.6183:

All I saw was you kittening around and getting killed. You made no attempt to flush her out. You made no attempt to force her to face stab so she may reveal herself.

2:30 of you dancing around pretty much told her you were kittening with her, so she waited for you. The moment you got close enough she blinded you, followed you in the wide arch you made and landed a backstab that put you on your kitten .

Yes, it is your fault for getting complacent while using zerk. It is also your fault for not turning sharply to make it harder for the backstab to land. Not only that, it keeps a backstabbing stealth thief in a small area 9 times out of 10. You could have hit them and possibly lay down some cripple.

Honestly, I always appreciate a critique of my play style. I do like it when folks offer suggestions of how I can improve.

I suppose you’re right. I suppose I could have just swung my sword in the air over and over and over like an idiot hoping to see the combo chain. I “could” have hit the thief and “possibly” lay down some cripple. Obviously that would be entirely lucky as I didn’t see her within any proximity of striking distance from 00:15 until she killed me at 2:50 and, after all, she could easily dodge my attacks in stealth. I suppose I could have swung my sword repeatedly for over 2 1/2 minutes, “possibly” hitting her at most one time while he/she is regenerating health in stealth, of course.

It would have been pretty funny to him/her I’m sure if I was swinging over and over in thin air, sharply turning back and forth in a tight area, all hoping to mitigate a backstab and possibly hitting him/her, when in reality he/she is several units away, in stealth. I wouldn’t know, of course, as I can’t see him/her. I would just be guessing.

And that’s the point. It’s just too easy for a D/P thief to stealth over and over and over and over again whenever they please. There is no cooldown for this type of play style. You think players enjoy simply swinging in mid-air, hoping that they may lucky and actually hit a stealthed player, all while running back and forth using tight turns, when the thief could simply just back up, and do the whole BP + HS combo all over again with minimal to no risk. How many times does someone have to swing at thin air, running back and forth before it becomes stupid?

Clearly a L2P issue here. Why would you try to troll a D/P on a zerker S/D?

That’s almost like a staff ele trying to troll a D/D ele in open field.

There are 3 exists from the spawn point. Pick a different one and go on your way. You can’t win every fight you encounter.

The lack of reading comprehension in this thread makes me face palm. It’s pretty clear to me from reading his whole post (something that seems difficult for others to do) that he made the video as a way to illustrate the perma-stealth mechanic and nothing else. He’s not trying to troll and I’d be willing to bet that he’s aware of the other two exits. He made the video to show how long (basically indefinitely) thieves can stay stealthed. I agree with Jakob – the perma stealth builds are ridiculous and need to be fixed.

I would wager that the thieves in this thread that are arguing with Jakob are thieves running this same cheese-tastic build.

I know right! Best place to starting looking is at your own comment.

“…that he made the video as a way to illustrate the perma-stealth mechanic and nothing else.”

Not only did he post that video to show how long a d/p can stay in stealth, he also suggested blanket nerfs to all stealth users; D/D, S/D, D/P, P/D, etc. So, please read his posts and try to comprehend fully what he is trying to say/do.

That’s funny. In the last part of my first paragraph I state, “I agree with Jakob – the perma stealth builds are ridiculous and need to be fixed.” So this implies that I did, in fact, both read and comprehend fully what he was trying to say/do (although I’m not surprised you didn’t pick up on that little tidbit given how quickly you seem to skim through posts and since it wasn’t spelled out in BIG BOLD LETTERS). Please though, do try to come back at me with some witty and clever retort! I find it most entertaining and I know you will need to get the last word in.

MIrra.3604:

JakobGW.5730:

Zacchary.6183:

All I saw was you kittening around and getting killed. You made no attempt to flush her out. You made no attempt to force her to face stab so she may reveal herself.

2:30 of you dancing around pretty much told her you were kittening with her, so she waited for you. The moment you got close enough she blinded you, followed you in the wide arch you made and landed a backstab that put you on your kitten .

Yes, it is your fault for getting complacent while using zerk. It is also your fault for not turning sharply to make it harder for the backstab to land. Not only that, it keeps a backstabbing stealth thief in a small area 9 times out of 10. You could have hit them and possibly lay down some cripple.

Honestly, I always appreciate a critique of my play style. I do like it when folks offer suggestions of how I can improve.

I suppose you’re right. I suppose I could have just swung my sword in the air over and over and over like an idiot hoping to see the combo chain. I “could” have hit the thief and “possibly” lay down some cripple. Obviously that would be entirely lucky as I didn’t see her within any proximity of striking distance from 00:15 until she killed me at 2:50 and, after all, she could easily dodge my attacks in stealth. I suppose I could have swung my sword repeatedly for over 2 1/2 minutes, “possibly” hitting her at most one time while he/she is regenerating health in stealth, of course.

It would have been pretty funny to him/her I’m sure if I was swinging over and over in thin air, sharply turning back and forth in a tight area, all hoping to mitigate a backstab and possibly hitting him/her, when in reality he/she is several units away, in stealth. I wouldn’t know, of course, as I can’t see him/her. I would just be guessing.

And that’s the point. It’s just too easy for a D/P thief to stealth over and over and over and over again whenever they please. There is no cooldown for this type of play style. You think players enjoy simply swinging in mid-air, hoping that they may lucky and actually hit a stealthed player, all while running back and forth using tight turns, when the thief could simply just back up, and do the whole BP + HS combo all over again with minimal to no risk. How many times does someone have to swing at thin air, running back and forth before it becomes stupid?

Clearly a L2P issue here. Why would you try to troll a D/P on a zerker S/D?

That’s almost like a staff ele trying to troll a D/D ele in open field.

There are 3 exists from the spawn point. Pick a different one and go on your way. You can’t win every fight you encounter.

The lack of reading comprehension in this thread makes me face palm. It’s pretty clear to me from reading his whole post (something that seems difficult for others to do) that he made the video as a way to illustrate the perma-stealth mechanic and nothing else. He’s not trying to troll and I’d be willing to bet that he’s aware of the other two exits. He made the video to show how long (basically indefinitely) thieves can stay stealthed. I agree with Jakob – the perma stealth builds are ridiculous and need to be fixed.

I would wager that the thieves in this thread that are arguing with Jakob are thieves running this same cheese-tastic build.

eithinan.9841:

AtomicSponge.6537:

eithinan.9841:

Toxic.4320:

Where, pray tell, should the ‘scrubs’ have built their AC? In the middle of your zerg? Let’s not get any more ridiculous, ok?

Getting pulled into contact where the enemy has the high ground means you were out maneuvered. 9/10 times you will lose.

Did it surprise you that we didn’t?

Also how did you know we weren’t baiting? Why didn’t you take the bait? Maybe it’s because 9/10 times you will lose.

Why are you still asking questions?

I think you quoted the wrong post. umadbro?

I give your troll attempts a 3 out of 10. Needing some serious work. Go read through some of the Maguuma match up thread to see how it’s properly done.

I’m on CD and I am just SO incredibly embarrassed!! How dare you guys try to have some fun in an otherwise dull match-up where we are significantly outnumbered by the other two servers! I mean, can’t you just let all the DB and FA guys get their free siege so that they have some more arrow carts and ballistas to build at our spawn? Is that really too much to ask? /sarcasm off.

Can someone from the guild [FF] Forsaken Fighters (CD guild) please send me an IM either here or in-game? Found a speed-hacker in your guild I’d like to let you know about. Have it on video if you’d like to see. Thanks!

Wow. 9 mags’ posts in the span of about 40 minutes responding ABOUT one guy. Jakob should feel proud. Clearly they don’t like him – I sense someone got “WOMBO COMBO’D” by him and now they’re a little sore.

Edited to appease the forum warriors.

kRAVen.4195:

Zaul day two. Worse than day one cause it shows he cant learn or let it go. There is a place for your post. Its called the Crystal Desert website forum. Anyway thanks for the positive rhetoric about your own server. We are all waiting for you to lead us to the promised land.

He’s a peach isn’t he? I don’t buy gems often but if I knew he would accept them in turn for transferring off CD, I would probably make an exception. Never seen one guy so completely against his whole server.

Edit: Hmm. Looks like he edited his last post to remove some name-calling and general CD-bashing. That’s good I guess?

PistolWhip.2697:

Vashti.8179:

PistolWhip.2697:

@Kraven
While your posts wreak of assumptive judgemental behaviour and rude claims. Please do not reply to my posts, I do not wish to converse with someone who is too arrogant to see that other CD members have made those claims and that I merely highlighted them.

Why is everyone assuming that I made these claims? I pointed out in my post it was gathered from the Posts of CDer’s on this thread. I decided to give a few posters benefit of the doubt when it came to their claims that CD doesn’t care as much as TC and that’s why they are losing. If I’am oh so wrong for taking these posts seriously, then I will disregard these posters as trolls, but I must ask, clarify for me now, does CD as a general server attitude want to strive for a win or not?

I would wager that what CD looks for more than anything is a competitive match, win, lose or draw. Speaking from experience, our previous match ups with Kain and YB literally came down to the wire. I wouldn’t have cared who won these matches – it’s because of how close they were that made them so much fun.

People aren’t trying to claim we don’t care about the score and that’s why we’re getting roflstomped (although to be fair I personally don’t give a kitten about the score). Instead we’re claiming to be losing because we can’t match TC’s numbers. As a result, a lot of our server mates are probably taking the week off and doing other things. You can’t blame people for staying away this mess. I rarely see CD field a zerg of more than 30 or so people, but I’m consistently seeing TC with zergs of 50 or more. And before you ask, I’ve been in wvw every night this week collecting my loot bags (although tonight I really should do laundry so it may be later before I sign on). :P

Oh and I don’t see anything wrong with Kraven’s posts. Telling someone not to respond to you? Please. Grow some thicker skin if you insist on playing Forum Wars 2.

Thank you for clarification, see was that so hard?

Thicker skin? Making a sound observation isn’t playing ‘Forum Wars 2’. I often don’t have time to post on these forums so I don’t.

I merely don’t wish to converse with kraven because he bores me and I can’t stand QQ. Its none of your business who I choose to talk to anyway lol, but once again Thank you for clarification, TC is also looking for this I’d say.

Nothing would make us both happier it seems than returning to the old system Anet had. Now those, they were fun and competitive.

You’re right, it’s none of my business who you choose to talk to and I never said otherwise. What I was referencing was this:

PistolWhip.2697:

While your posts wreak of assumptive judgemental behaviour and rude claims. Please do not reply to my posts

Just like you can choose to talk to whomever you want, Kraven can choose to respond to your posts! (See what I did thar?)

And yes, clarification was hard. Hopefully some TC folks will come in soon so I can learn from them.

PistolWhip.2697:

@Kraven
While your posts wreak of assumptive judgemental behaviour and rude claims. Please do not reply to my posts, I do not wish to converse with someone who is too arrogant to see that other CD members have made those claims and that I merely highlighted them.

Why is everyone assuming that I made these claims? I pointed out in my post it was gathered from the Posts of CDer’s on this thread. I decided to give a few posters benefit of the doubt when it came to their claims that CD doesn’t care as much as TC and that’s why they are losing. If I’am oh so wrong for taking these posts seriously, then I will disregard these posters as trolls, but I must ask, clarify for me now, does CD as a general server attitude want to strive for a win or not?

I would wager that what CD looks for more than anything is a competitive match, win, lose or draw. Speaking from experience, our previous match ups with Kain and YB literally came down to the wire. I wouldn’t have cared who won these matches – it’s because of how close they were that made them so much fun.

People aren’t trying to claim we don’t care about the score and that’s why we’re getting roflstomped (although to be fair I personally don’t give a kitten about the score). Instead we’re claiming to be losing because we can’t match TC’s numbers. As a result, a lot of our server mates are probably taking the week off and doing other things. You can’t blame people for staying away this mess. I rarely see CD field a zerg of more than 30 or so people, but I’m consistently seeing TC with zergs of 50 or more. And before you ask, I’ve been in wvw every night this week collecting my loot bags (although tonight I really should do laundry so it may be later before I sign on). :P

Oh and I don’t see anything wrong with Kraven’s posts. Telling someone not to respond to you? Please. Grow some thicker skin if you insist on playing Forum Wars 2.

LameFox.6349:

Sounds like someone was slapping people with his mobility-paddle.

This sounds…dirty.

Hickeroar.9734:

Toxic.4320:

Are you paying attention at all, Venton? I was on TC when SoR spawn camped. Christ, no wonder people are getting aggravated in here. No one is listening to one another. Everyone is too busy being nasty.

Peace out and I’ll see y’all on the battlefields.

I’ve been on TC since the game launched…and I saw no spawn camping by SoR.

If they did spawn camp….who cares? Like…really. Who-Cares?

Who.
Cares?

I’ve said it three times now: Take a different exit from spawn. It’s THAT simple.

Spawn camping is an ugly tactic…but people are just gonna do it. That’s why ANet designed the game to be immune to it. Except…people would rather whine about it on the forums than turn 90 degrees at spawn and go out a different exit.

OR….equip a ranged weapon and keep a safe distance. Push when you see an opportunity and use the legendary defenders when you get in a pinch. Anyone complaining about spawn-camping, for lack of a better term, well…you’re doin’ it wrong! Go out there and get your free bags and just have some fun!

uneditedbrute.8136:

Toxic.4320:

To TC: I wish y’all nothing but the best. I made some really good friends over there but I would ask that y’all maintain the 10 commandments, ok? It made my heart hurt a little to see y’all spawn camp us.

your tears taste amazing.

as far as “spawn camping” (which is realistically the wrong term for it because we cant actually attack u while ur in spawn just when u decide to come out the same predictable exit over and over), idk if u noticed if ur not on home BL u have 3 exits… and if u are on home BL u got a ton more. so unless were guarding all 3 exits, which i have never seen happen, we are not truly “spawn camping” u (if thats the term u want to use)

in the end i think we can all agree this new match up system sucks. It sucks for the top server who is bored out of there mind with nothing to do. it sucks for the bottom because they are taking on numbers they just are not prepared for.i

I love when I see a zerg camped out the main exit. There are almost always a few overzealous up-level’s that manage to get themselves one-shotted by the legendary defenders. Makes me giggle.

Chris.3290:

Aieo.2815:

There’s nothing wrong with flipping camps as long as the main zerg is taking advantage of it and is aware of the ops team.

Judging by the tone he set towards a member of his own server, I don’t think he talks to anyone in the ‘main zerg’

It’s fine that he plays that way, but he has no business trying to stop a servermate from trying to fix their crapped out situation.

Ugh. Again I think you misunderstand. Doesn’t look to me like he’s trying to stop anyone from fixing our “crapped out situation.” He’s simply saying play the way you want to play. If this guy (can’t remember his name) wants to form training for our server, etc. than more power to him. But people shouldn’t feel the least bit bad for not wanting to change their spec, gear, etc.

Oh, and I don’t think we have a crapped out situation at all. We simply don’t have the numbers to be competitive with TC, and to a lesser extent, SoS. I think we have a great server with some equally great players. Just got some bad RNG in this matchup roll.

Chris.3290:

Jakob’s group are one of the best hitman teams in all of WvW. No straggler is safe from them. I will put their 4-7 people against any other team of similar size in the game and bet on them.

I also think their collective contribution to PPT can be measured in single digits and they haven’t done a single thing for their server and should be the last people anyone on CD should listen to when it comes to bettering their situation.

If your goal is to flip camps and kill stragglers, you play like Jakob. If you want to capture keeps and hold them against waves of attackers, you’ll start finding like-minded folks and start training.

I don’t recall anywhere in Jakob’s post where he’s trying to give advice in order to “better” the situation for CD. He’s merely stating that he thinks people (and this goes for all servers, not just CD) should play the game the way they like to play it. Seeing as how we all have our different play styles and we all bought our own copy of the game, I tend to agree.

That being said, havoc squads can and do contribute. I’ll put it out here that I don’t give a kitten about the score. I play this game to have fun and running in my small squad is what I enjoy. All the same, the things we do in WvW contribute to our server, just not in the way that a 50-man zerg does. The best example I can think of is when we take and hold (OK, you might call it troll) the north camp. I can’t count how many times we’ve taken the north camp, sieged it, upgraded it and held it for several ticks. Meanwhile, a force is amassing at spawn to take back their north camp. Why? Because let’s face it, we all hate it when we lose that north camp. While we’re holding the north camp and the opposing force is building I’ve watched on numerous ocassions as our PPT has slowly crept up as we’ve managed to lure more and more people away from other objectives. Eventually a group (or even a full out zerg) shows up and sends us packing.

Also keep in mind that until we lose it, we’ve just scored our server a fully upgraded camp with full supply. Why is that less important than the 50-man zerg that rolls around and takes a tower? Where are they going to supply up to build the siege to take the tower without the supply? Can they go get a supply camp to build their siege? Absolutely – but if you’ve got havoc squads running the camps, escorting yaks and killing enemy supply then that frees up the zergs to take the objectives.

Sunreva.8714:

Reikou.7068:

Good. At least I now have a name on CD and WvW can stop being so sterile.

And “legit duel” while I was recovering from attempting to take a camp. Yup.

Bad CD players really need to step up their game lol. I really don’t mind if jakob tries to show off, and not show all the times HE gets destroyed, because honestly he plays decently. But scrubs and zerglings shouldn’t talk.

You have a name in the sense that you’re perceived as, no offense, a clown. If that was your goal, then congratulations, you were successful?

In any event, it’s bizarre that you continue to post videos which portray you in a bad light (throwing temper tantrums, using vulgar insults against opponents, rage quitting, ect).

Anyways..back on track. Good games either way with the other guilds, great matchups for sure!

Meh, I’ve come to the conclusion that there’s really no use trying to get a point across to this Reikou. His self-worth is obviously tied to this game and that’s why he feels the need to call people scrubs and zerglings (and of course fagg*ts, as can be heard on one of the videos), rather than post a sound and reasonable argument. Think he’s just one of those people with a lot of anger and/or low self esteem IRL.

I know this matchup has been going on for a time (and may continue still), but I’m still really enjoying myself in this tier. Met lots of cool people on all servers and had some great fights and duels. The “Reikou’s” seem to be few and far between and I don’t think he in anyway represents the attitude of SBI as a whole.

Keep up the good fights everyone!

I just wanted to pop in and say thanks to the [Leet] guild from SoS for the duels earlier! Had a good time – hopefully we can meet up again soon – cheers!

Reikou.7068:

Vakitteni.8179:

Reikou.7068:

JakobGW.5730:

Ya’ll remember this guy from the last thread?

Reikou.7068:

Just thought I’d add some extra content to the thread.

A pretty typical SBI vs CD battle.
http://www.twitch.tv/ailesdelumiere/c/2286241

You can see more of this on my stream!

Because of his mouth, I decided to find him a couple of days ago to show him a real CD fight. He runs a gimmicky build and gets a good majority of his kills from complete surprise, whether his victim is running solo or attempting to take a camp. To his credit, he was able to catch me with his burst just one time but has failed to do so since.

My friends and I got a good laugh when I went toe to toe with him and he rage quit just before I could spike him, which is recorded at 13:04 at:

http://www.twitch.tv/ailesdelumiere/b/404214420

I gave him a dose of his own medicine today and then he called me a terrible name! I felt so bad, really I did. He was attempting to troll an open field fight between SOS and CD, as he usually does, and I decided to show him how trolling is properly done . . . to him. Anyways, you can hear what name he called me at 2:46 at

http://www.twitch.tv/ailesdelumiere/b/405058847

I was only trying to show him how to properly do what he was attempting to do himself. You can see him try to do the same thing to me at 2:22 while I was finishing an SOS player. Of course, he failed as usual.

He logged about 16 minutes after.

Totally logged because I got ghosted and trained, not because it was 2AM in Japan. Yup.

How real CD fight: Zerg harder and hug NPC.

Not to say it isn’t effective (because it is), but at least play like you’ve got a pair if you want to talk trash.

Only CD I currently have respect for are that one mesmer from cAc (who I have no clue who they are. If anyone has their character name, I’d really appreciate it,) and Iskandarex from TOFU.

That said, the build is pretty glassy, and is based off of the standard D/P Backstab thief in tPvP. It’s really not supposed to win any head on 1v1s which is why I think its hilarious how it does in WvW.

If you want to win a good 90% of 1v1 matchups, play a (good) D/D triple cantrip Ele.

I’m confused. Where in this video does the CD player zerg and hug NPC’s? Because that’s what you imply in your post. In the video you come to a fight between SoS and CD – you jump in and try to take some of them down as they’re fighting one another. Shortly thereafter, the CD player comes in and pretty much destroys you, to which you respond with some epic (albeit quiet) nerd rage.

The CD player was doing the EXACT same thing you were attempting to do (except he does it more effectively). Funny thing though, I didn’t see the CD hug any NPC’s or bring a zerg to you – just saw him flatten you into the ground. So with that being said…I’m fairly certain that he’s earned the right to trash talk you. Straight up.

Lol. You should watch a little bit more then.

OK. Should I watch the most recent one or should I watch the previous one where you rage-quit when this same CD thief beat you in a 1v1? I kinda like the rage-quit one myself.