Guild Wars 2

Yeah, you’re right about changing in and out of beastmode. Although I know it’s weird, green aura really irritates my eye. I don’t know why, but I can’t stand to look at my character since it engulfs my character completely. There should be some sort of checkbox in the options menu which turns on and off character aura because I will never bother playing ranger again if they keep such an annoying aura. It does look pretty with the little leaves though. I’m just asking to tone it down a little.

What’s this green aura around my character when I enter Beastmode. This thing is so unnecessary and annoying to look at. It has this weird trail that it leaves behind which falls back towards you in 3rd person… wtf is this? Is there a way to take it out or can Anet fix this? At least reduce the intensity of the aura. This annoying little thing needs to go! Make Rangers great again!

As absurd as it may seem, things like that make me reconsider buying this xpac.

Why are warriors this strong? I always thought the pvp in gw2 needed better balancing, but I am at awe right now. These warriors have infinite sustain, extreme burst, chain cc, perpetual stance mode, etc… I understand the idea of the rock paper scissor gameplay that is pvp, but right now, warriors have very little counter play. The other day I saw a warrior at the end of the game with most healing, most dmg, most offence, most defence, most revives. None of his allies had any accolades. You can wait for the stances to go away, which is what I try when I face a warrior, but it’s hard to do so when they can run at 100km/h. The recent patch did nothing to change this, and yet I still see wars complaining about how the animation time for certain skills take too long. This really isn’t fun at all. I don’t have any problem with any other class, except warriors.
I don’t remember the last time they were this strong. To me, Anet balance team for pvp did a terrible work for the most recent patch. The worst part is It won’t change for a good month or two, since balance patches are scarce.
Why??

p.s: Consider hiring a new balancing team for pvp

I mean….. why am I forced to play a healing/support class to be viable in pvp. When it.comes to pve, anything is possible. For pvp I’m stuck with a healing I don’t want to play. Unless I’m in a group of 5 other players and everything is coordinated, it’s freaking boring to heal….. but I have to because elite spec is much much stronger than core builds. Honestly, screw you Anet. Also, Im not bored out of my mind with this game and trying new build. I’m kittened that I’m stuck playing only one viable build until the next expansion. I don’t play pvp for this reason.

I Have never checked these sites for meta builds and always had fun creating these new and fun builds until now. Elite specs really ruin the game. I jumped on to my ranger and check the last druid trait slot. Theres a trait that does a 5 sec root on a 10 sec cooldown, with bleeds!!! I loled at that one. All you have to do to proc it with any kind of hard cc. This is what an overloaded trait looks like. You look at any other none elite specialisation and its rare to see any kind of traits that are that strong. Just look at engies…. now thats an overloaded kit.

I know i’m not the only one who thinks this, but it has to be said: Elite spec ruined spvp. To be able to perform relatively well in pvp now, you have to use elite specs otherwise you are going to get stomped. Not only are they abilities that are really strong, the elite specs are way overloaded. Because of this, anybody with a build that doesn’t have an elite spec will get stomped. Its disgusting…. I used to be able to make up any build in my head, jump into a game and still do okay. Now, Everyone is forced to be a meta slave. I used to pretty much only play pvp, but I now avoid it like the plague. I Know im not the greatest player, but there are obvious problems in pvp right now, and to me the biggest one is elite spec balance. If anet revolves the game around elite specs again…. I doubt ill be back to play this game. If I ever bring this up in chat, people always say : go back to WoW! I dont want to make this about wow, but it has much better balancing. Obviously, there are issues (item level difference isnt one anymore), but wow had an aspect of counter play and if you didn’t completely suck, you couldn’t get one shotted. The whole counterplay thing is a WHOLE different issue.

Elite specs are overloaded and are too strong. Yeah it’s fun to give thieves infinite evades, but playing versus one isnt fun. The Anet dev’s mentality on pvp is brutal. Look at League of legends for example. Their philosophy is that they make champions that are fun AND fun to play against. Gw2 does not do that. Just look at guardians, their ability cooldowns are so low for a lot of weapons. If i fight a guardian with an elite spec build as a ranger or necro, not only do guardians have a lot of utility (which they should since they are supposed to buff and help allies), but they also have a lot of burst, and movement. As a necro, my weapons are mostly for dps. That’s alright, but how it is imbalance is that one can do so much more than the other. Im just using necro as an example here, but its the same for rangers (from what ive experienced). Weapon utility, plus trait utility, plus elite specs make up for some overloaded classes.

Yes, I understand most people play Pve content and it makes sense that class balance should be primarily tuned for Pve, but the devs should try harder next time. If the anet’s only selling point are BRAND NEW OVERPOWERED ELITE SPECS, then the game itself is definitely not worth getting in my opinion.
I used to pretty much only play pvp. I remember exactly when it turned to kitten, it was during the summer when they introduced the new trait system into the game before the release of Hots.

If you’re going to reply to this post in any way, try to make it only about league or WoW. It was just make a comparison with popular games that a lot of people have played before.

Fivedawgs.4267:

Baronvonhippo.3157:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Baronvonhippo.3157:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Baronvonhippo.3157:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Question: Why are you playing this game if WoW is more enjoyable?

Anyone who has played WoW knows their pvp is braindead and pricey, so long as the tittle of this thread doesnt change, you are full of it.

False dichotomy much? It’s crazy but maybe he likes other aspects of this game better just not the pvp? Really try and think before posting.

i believe this is the pvp section, i could careless if the OP like Pve or WvW better than spvp. His points might or might not be valid, but the title should be changed if the OP want hardcore MMO player to take him seriously.

So what if it’s the pvp section doesn’t make your statement any less ignorant. And not sure why you think you get to speak for all “hardcore MMO players” but you certainly don’t speak for me. If you can’t handle this discussion don’t click on the title that simple really.

So, you think WoW pvp is better than ours (S3)?

You really have a strange habit of just reading what you want to see. Not once have I said that, please try and follow the discussion rather than trying your best to demonize others. You make baseless accusations with nothing to back it. Your first post was basically you telling him his opinion is wrong, you realize how illogical that is?

I agree, However, if the OP want us to take him serious, don’t you think the title is apocryphal?

Actually, you are right … i’ll refrain from posting until the OP change his title..

Have fun,

To be honest, you guys are acting like children. You read the title and that’s it. That or you guys are complete GW2 fanbooiiis who think the game is perfect. I invite you to read through it. I’m only trying to address GW2 problems. Saying that I enjoy WoW pvp more is irrelevant to the main topic and you should stop uselessly arguing about the title. Grow up, just because someone doesn’t have the same opinion as you, doesn’t mean you have to say garbage.

I’m getting a good laugh at the people who think this is a post about WoW, most people probably didn’t even bother reading through it. Hahaha…. that one guy who can’t take this seriously because he is a hardcore MMO pvper, laughed out loud at that one.

It’s true, it seems a lot of the power also comes from all the passives in the game. Its ridiculous how many buffs you can keep up. The elite spec line is full of them and are also stronger passives compared to other trait lines.

Also, i’m really not trying to complain, i’m just a very critical person and like to point out things like these problems.

RedZebra.2345:

come on VoidNard you like this game, otherwhise you were playing WOW and not defending yourself in chat. Agreed they still can tune things and they have to but next time do not as if

I didn’t say I did not like gw2, and you’re right, I do enjoy it. Although there are a lot of things that need balancing and reworking. There is just too much of everything. Too many condis too much cc, to much self healing, too much aoe.

Its also important for me note that this is only my opinion for pvp. In pve these problems are mostly relevant, like the condition and buff problem which actually is a fun mechanic in pve. And i think the underlying problem behind all this is the power creep. I think the real reason I wanted to compare WoW to Gw2, was because in wow pvp it takes much longer someone to die, considering they are at the same item level. Whereas in Gw2, the possibility to one kill someone in less than 5 seconds is real. I’m not saying to make it a WoW clone or anything like that, but taking into consideration the power creep could be beneficial to the balancing of the game. I do know that the bunker meta was a thing, and should be avoided, but lowering the overall dmg output could help with a lot of the problems I mentioned.

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

VoidNard.7206:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

So, how much should we bet that you will need the Legion expac to be able to be competative in PvP. So in short, there will be something like Elite specs there too.

I would be supriced if Blizzard let PvPers only need core game to be competative.

You have obviously never played wow before. The thing is with WoW, you need the expac altogether to even play the new content. And the abilities or “elite spec” (which is nonexistent) are integrated into the core abilities. The only specialization there is is to chose from, is class you want to play.

I have played WoW. Before BC and I have never turned to look back and I do not care.
I dunno if I will see, I may hear about it but as we say ‘We will see who is right and who is wrong’ as I have understood previous expansions and PvP in that foul game you had to level to the next max level and then get to do alot of PvE stuff to get some gear together (Wich you need the latest expac to do) so you could get competative. No? Well as I said I dunno, this is GW2 forum I have no obligation to know anything about a crappy game that majority of the playerbase is below 15.
Anyhow, when armor and level is out of the question then at Blizzards office I think they are going ‘So how do we get the pure PvPers to buy the expansion now?’ Well I don’t know but they will probably figure something out, becouse in the end a company like Blizzard want’s to grow.

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VoidNard.7206:

Everybody criticizes WoW but what about the things in Gw2 like the condition problem i discussed. Saying that I thought WoW had better pvp was the point. Am I the only one who sees the things?

Umm oh yea!? Weird, this is GW2 forum not Blizzards forum. If that game is so much better, pay your sub and head over there. Yes, you are one of very few here that does see that as we all have different tastes and since this is GW2 forum, most of us probably likes GW2 pvp better (Doesn’t have to mean they hate WoW as much as I do though).

Man i stopped reading at: stopped playing after BC. lol Look, don’t criticize or talk about WoW or any other game if you haven’t played them recently. And can we talk about the Gw2 problems…. man. Like everything else is relevant and the only thing people bothered to read was the title. People get triggered so easy hahaha.

Dahkeus.8243:

Still blows my mind that people complain about the HoT expac from a PvPer’s perspective when WoW’s expac is basically $60 (on top of sub fee) that forces you to grind through PvE all over again just to play your same class at max level again.

Please….. this is not my kitten point. I’m trying show what problems there are in pvp for goodness sake. Don’t make comments on wow. I was trying to show what the problems are in Gw2 not WoW.

Everybody criticizes WoW but what about the things in Gw2 like the condition problem i discussed. Saying that I thought WoW had better pvp was the point. Am I the only one who sees the things?

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

So, how much should we bet that you will need the Legion expac to be able to be competative in PvP. So in short, there will be something like Elite specs there too.

I would be supriced if Blizzard let PvPers only need core game to be competative.

You have obviously never played wow before. The thing is with WoW, you need the expac altogether to even play the new content. And the abilities or “elite spec” (which is nonexistent) are integrated into the core abilities. The only specialization there is is to chose from, is class you want to play.

Kayberz.5346:

Complains about elite specs being needed for meta builds.
Compares it to wow where there is literally only ONE way to play a class correctly in pvp
Good talk

I’m all against elite specs and never said or implied that they are needed for meta builds.

Dahkeus.8243:

WoW does some things well, but overall GW2 >>>>>>>WoW.

There’s plenty of imbalance with classes in GW2, but nowhere near what WoW usually is and at least there’s only class imbalance. In WoW, there’s also gear imbalanced where those who have limitless time to grind are king.

Not in legion, that goes away. When it comes to overall balance, WoW is much greater and is getting better over the years. To me, It feels like gw2 is getting worse. I still don’t understand why the bring in a summer patch in 2015 to allow for more build diversity, but it HoTs, they completely destroy that possibility with elite specs.

To be honest it really depends on the person when it comes WoW pvp but thier pvp is getting better each year ( except for WoD, that sucked a lot) . It is becoming more and more balanced and with legion, item rating will not matter anymore, as everything is standardized. And when it comes to skill in pvp, I think it does take a level of skill. Managing your resources can be quite tricky and positioning is extremely important, mostly in arenas. It takes a different kind of skill, where it is less about the actual action combat but more about the timing of abilities and player placement.

I had to say it, this game’s pvp is crap and I enjoy the “boring” WoW pvp much more. I need to point out that I’m NOT talking about the gw2 combat system, action combat, which is great. First of all, everything is balanced around elite specs. This is ironic because during the summer 2015, they brought this talent overhaul with the idea of giving the possibility for more diverse builds. Yet, here we are, in a meta where if you don’t run elite spec, you’re under par compared to everyone else. Some say it normal since it is a new expansion and you need to make them stronger, but I find it makes all the other talent trees really underwhelming in comparison. It also doesn’t make sense or justify the reason to make them stronger, simply because free to play players will have a reason to buy the xpac.
Then there is also the ability spamfest going on in pvp. The combat flow makes everything happen so quickly and in a lot cases, people just spam their abilities. Some say they don’t, which is true, but things happen so quickly that there little room for strategic thinking and you end up spamming abilities. All you see is random aoe everywhere that end up one shotting someone at 50% health, while the actual player is just stading around and watching the enemy die ( a bit exaggerated but I have seen that several times, and not necessarily to me). Yes there are obviously ways to counter that, but when aoe dmg becomes greater than single target dps, there is obviously a problem.
Another weird thing, which isn’t necessarily a problem, is the weapons that are available to chose from. Why do some professions have more weapons at their disposal? This creates another form of imbalance, where some professions can be more versatile than others when it comes to builds. Yes, I do know some get kits and Ele gets 4 staff ability.
Conditions and buffs are ridiculous too. Being able to counter a few condis at one time make sense, and is fairly easy to do. But when you have 8 different kinds of conditions on you plus the 20 others you will get from the 2 other enemy players, it becomes a bit ridiculous. How is this even fun? How the hell is this an enjoyable mechanic? This is also true for the buffs you get. The duration of some are a bit ridiculous. This is also another terrible mechanic, when yourself or even your allies, can simply just stack these at will and never go away. I like the idea of revenants being able to buff allies, but how do you counter infinite buffs?
Don’t get me started on the match making….. 4 guards in one game, really?
There are so many other annoying things to say about the pvp in this game, bu those are just some really annoying ones. How can the devs fix this, and what are your thoughts? And please try not to say, l2p or get gud. Someone could be terrible at this game and still encounter these problems.

You make it seem that a PTR would speed Anet up. This makes sense how?[/quote]

Well the speed at which they do anything is pretty terrible. Spring quarterly update: some balance change (warriors still bad in pvp and elite specs still op), announcement of new WvW changes which would launch in November 2016, new raid tier, and a bunch of new gem store stuff! Maybe they do need some player base help.

What about all the other games, WoW was just an example and I know a lot of people dislike that game (terrible example -_-). What about letting others try the new balance updates and giving feedback on the forums. Having a dedicated PTR forum page would also help.

There are a lot of bugs in this game which could be easily avoided if there was more testing.

So I watched the new sneak peak of the quarterly update, which was a bit underwhelming imo (whole other irrelevant story), but then I began to question myself….How do the devs test the patches? Is there a secret team of ninjas out there doing all the work? is it only the pro players? Or are the simply none? I usually don’t pay attention to these kind of things but after quitting gw2 for a while and playing LoL for a bit, I noticed they always have a PTR. WoW also has a PTR and most game actually. So if there aren’t any, why? It seems like games like WoW, LoL and even Elder Scrolls Online (AAA games like GW2) have their own PTR and are quite successful. It seems like it would really help the GW2 team if they created a PTR to let the community spot possible bugs, test out the balance changes and even let them speak their mind on the actual new content. I understand part of it is probably due to their terms and conditions (or whatever it’s called), but it would probably greatly outweigh negatives and bring a lot of positives to the development of the game. so yeah…. whats up Anet??? Hopefuly others feel the same and the devs could look into it! So what do you guys think?
- a confused fan

P.S I stopped playing because, quite frankly, HoTs sucks (no offence, just opinion)