Guild Wars 2

Trigr.6481:

I’m convinced that the only way to get the developers attention to do/fix anything is by the complete absence of everyone remotely related to pvp.

Let’s start a strike?

I have never had a bad game, made a mistake, or lost.

My biggest grievance with this game…

Part 2: What Players Would Have Liked Instead

The queue is long and boring.

Solo players vs. teams is BS.

League achievement =/= prestige.

Bugs and QOL

Balance Suggestions.

Hello!

I’m a longtime GW1&2 veteran and semi-competitive tournament player. I’ve been reading the forums and have noticed more anet-hate now than I have in quite some time. I have really worried about the deterioration of PvP in GW2 since they removed the ability to queue outside of Heart of the Mists, and today I believe that PvP is at an all-time low, despite many new features added with the expansion. Essentially, if the “popularity of Structured Player vs. Player has grown at an explosive rate” then why does every patch seem to diminish the quality of “the fastest-growing area of Guild Wars 2”? This sentiment is evidenced by the growth of “let’s talk about how the game used to be fun” posts on the forum.

This forum post will be as long and detailed as possible, and I hope to create a comprehensive list for ArenaNet that includes specific examples of what players hate, what we would have liked, and suggestions for how that can get done. Please post links to other forum posts below so I can add your input.

Part 1: What Players Hate

Structured Player vs. Player is inherently boring.

Structured Player vs. Player is inherently unfair.

The League System is perceived by many to be a failure.

The game is balanced upon a faulty foundation.

Current balance is literally the worst we’ve ever had.

High-division players do not take ambers and emeralds so that they can stomp noobs. They don’t want to play against noobs, because they suck and it’s a boring match.

They take them because they cannot get a Q otherwise. If I Q by myself, I literally cannot play the game. My Q times are often over 1hr long (see below). I have to party with lower division players in order to play the game, and most of the time, they suck, Anet gives me a kitten team, and I go against a full premade.

@Ithilwen.1529 “Thus, the diamond player is getting an easy match as well as cutting the queue line.”

This is just absolutely wrong, and obviously you’re not diamond nor do you have any friends that are. The diamond player gets HARDER matches, and the diamond player ENTERS the queue because otherwise they are stuck in q hell for literally hours.

Check out these fast Qs I got in a diamond solo q

I played GW2 PvP.

@aidenwolf This is honestly my circumstance:

• I used to play the game at a competitive level (this is my ESL history)
• I quit the game when HoT came out so that I could focus my attention on getting a job
• I got a job and now I’m back playing the game and my friends and teammates are high tier while I’m low tier.

Please explain to me how I am “gaming the system”? I shouldn’t be allowed to play with my friends and own teammates just because they played leagues like 6 days before me? Are you just complaining because you do not have good friends?

@ Cynz Look, I agree that a 5man vs soloqers is very dumb. I’m a strong advocate for seperating the Qs. We had gone against several 5man teams, but anet’s matchmaking put us against soloqers. Not my fault.

@Power Bottom tell me about it man… Happened again today. Friend DC’d and returns to game, and we all get punished.

@Captain Sam This is my only account, look at my forum history. I’m not playing on an alt to boost my friend’s leagues – I’m playing with my friends to boost my own league because if I soloq I get matched with noobs.

@ ITheNormalPerson exactly, thank you. +1

@Chazua U rite.

@Captain Sam, I’m the emerald. This is what your post looks like to me:

“How dare you have the audacity to play the game by joining a group with your friends? On top of that, you played the currently most powerful builds”

Although my league is low (because I don’t play this game anymore since anet steals my pips and kitten a grindfest), I have pretty good MMR and we’ve been playing against top players all day, when they’re around to play. How else should I move up the league system besides Qing with my friends? Do you actually expect me to be stuck in noobville while I soloq and bash my head on the wall? Why is it my fault that Anet’s system gave your soloqers a match against our premade?

Also, l2p the meta, or make the next meta that is better than this one.

The current dishonor system is WTF dumb. This is what happened:

1. We Q up as a team, wait 8m, and face another premade
2. 3m into the game one of our guys DCs bc nature
3. We play like maniacs and win 4v5… 502-499
4. We get punished and lose 2 pips because our teammate DC’s
5. see screenshot

Why on earth is MY win listed as “desertion”, if I’m not the one who deserted? Playing and working hard to win a 4v5 is literally the complete opposite of deserting your team.

And why on earth does the enemy deserve to gain pips and move up the league for LOSING a game where they have an enormous advantage?

Anet, plz. We demand pips in the form of consumable items.

Can somebody tell me what benefit there is to having reflect while I’m invisible?

Hey everyone,

Best Team North Africa [NA] is looking for teams to scrim with on weeknights at 6pm EST. Mail/whisper me in game if your team is interested!

Thanks,
Almighty

See my post here, lmk if this interests you. Tryouts tomorrow at 6:30 est. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor/NA-PvP-Team-LF-1/first#post5332860

We’d love to scrim you guys. I’ll send you an in game mail

If you’re NA, see my post here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor/NA-PvP-Team-LF-1/first#post5332860

We are still trying people out regularly. Next tryout is tomorrow, Thursday July 30th, at 6:30 pm EST. If you’re PST, just mail me in game and we’ll work something out. Walk-ins welcome.

citizens to terrorize

young adults to mooooderrrniiiiiiiiiiiize

Trying out dailyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

We’re still looking, message me for tryout

Hey all,

We’re an experienced PvP team who’ve played in most of the tournaments for the past 2 months. We practice most (if not every) weeknight at 6pm EST. We’re looking for one strong player to add to our team. Please mail me in game with the following information:

Name
Profession
Games Played
Games Won
Ranked Games By Profession
Ranked Wins By Profession
Region
Time Zone
Past Experience

If you pass screening, then tryouts consist of 3 duels with each member of the team, followed by team queues or scrimmages, and two weeks of trial period. If we like you and you like us, we’ll extend you an offer at the end of the two weeks.

70! Or anything not taken lol.
Lord Almighty

Thanks for hosting this! So cool.

Hey man,

I sent you a message in game, but I also wanted to post on here in the event that you check the forums first. I currently lead a partial team that might be a perfect merge for you and your friend. We consist of a D/P Thief, Shoutbow, and Cele Engi, and collectively have over 10k games between us. We have each individually played in a variety of tournaments, and have placed atop the leaderboards (both past, and the most recent test season).

We have excellent knowledge of our classes and strong mechanical and rotational ability. We have our own TS, have clear microphones, and play together basically every day. Practice is an essential requirement for us. Although I don’t think champion titles are very important, I have every one except Magus, and am willing to change builds or professions to meet team needs.

Message me whenever you’re on in game.

I also have this problem, and experience 2-3 second freezes whenever I open the scoreboard in a pvp match. I had to unbind B because of this. I cannot verify whether it is an account based problem or not, as I only use one account.

Same here haha..

Hey guys,

I play very often. Looking for a guild that does guild missions, and may dabble in WvW and PvP. If you’ve got requirements, great. Let me know what’s up!

Thanks.

So leave the random, unfair and unevenly distributed RNG drop because everything else can be bought, and this is the only broken thing worth keeping. That makes no sense. This would be alright if they at least had a random drop at certain levels, say, 40+. Further, aren’t pristine relics a dungeon token, which, as you said, is an exception to what can be bought? Wouldn’t this objection go against the premise of your argument?

Simply put, it’s not fair that somebody who did fractals level 20 once has more to show for it then people like me who have done fractals over 600 times, have over 50 pristine relics from dailys above 20, and are above level 50.

People who work less should have less of a reward. The people who work hundreds of hours to get the weapon they want should be rewarded.

Thanks for the bumps and support you guys. I am in the same spot as all of you, and many others. I’ve got over 50 pristine relics, all from daily fractals that are above level 20. It’s a shame that they made it this way. RNG is the lazy way out.

Doesn’t look like we’re going to get any love, folks

The suggestion of purchasing fractal weapons with pristine relics comes up again and again on this forum. People think it’s unfair that somebody can do a level 20 fractal once and get their weapon, but others can be fractals level 50 with 600+ fractals completed and 50+ pristine relics and only have gotten one or two weapons that they can’t even use.

Please merge these threads into one, because many different people are offering unique and innovative suggestions for resolving this. Here are some links:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Fractal-Weapon-a-short-moan-suggestion

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Fractal-Weapon-Skins

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Purchase-Fractal-Weapons-with-Pristine-Relics

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/purchasable-fractal-skins-with-relics-PLEASE/first#post1159850

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Fractal-Weapons-Attainable-and-Still-Rare

Thanks, and I look forward to reading other suggestions!

Nihilus.3015:

I’d hate to see these weapons become common. If it did happen there should be Fractal Lvl Requirement of 1000000,00000,000000000,,00,0,0,0,0,0,00,,00,00 zillion.

Of course the people that have them wan’t them to remain uncommon. But that’s a selfish argument because the rest of us worked hard to get nothing. This RNG problem is worse than that of the mystic forge for precursors. At least you can buy it with gold.

Here, have a slight chance to get something at all, let’s say one in three. Of that slight chance, you have another one in three chance that it’s a weapon not a ring or infused ring (unless you’re doing 26+). Then you have a one in nineteen chance that it’s the weapon you want.

It just isn’t fun playing for maybe two hours a day to roll a 150+ sided die.

I agree with the aforementioned points and have some insights of my own that I would like to contribute to this discussion.

My first and most important contention is that the current method of obtaining fractal weapons is not fun. Many players continually work hard to have fractal weapons and are relentlessly unrewarded. I’ve done my 20, 30, and 40 fractal daily every day for 2 weeks, with few exception and have only gotten two fractal weapons, both of which I cannot even use. I am honestly wasting my time. This point can be summed up by Colin Johanson (http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-colin-johanson-on-how-arenanet-measures-success) : “Every time you finish a dungeon you get tokens you can trade in for reward items that you want, rather than having a small chance of getting it as a drop, because it’s more fun to always get rewarded for finishing with something you want to have!” Not only is it more fun to be rewarded, but it’s is not fun at all to be constantly unrewarded. It is demoralizing and is an incentive for people to never return to fractals.

Further, fractal weapons do not denote expertise in fractals, as dungeon specific weapons do for other dungeons. Instead, they signify luck. While I am not yet in my 60s, I would consider myself quite high level in fractals. I have maximum AR, and have overcome the challenges that the dungeon poses at higher levels. Unfortunately, there are many people in there 20s who have more to show for their work in fractals than I do (because I can’t even equip my weapons).

Finally, the currency for daily completion of even level fractals was a band-aid for people that complained about the ascended ring chance. For the many people above level 30 that have max or near max AR already, the pristine relics just sit in our inventory and have no real use aside from tracking how many hours we have invested trying to obtain the weapons and have been unrewarded.

I support the suggestion of using relics to purchase weapons. If this would allow people to get the weapons too easily, introduce a fractal level restriction for purchasing the items (ie, you can only purchase the weapons that cost less at normal dungeon merchants past level 30, and you can purchase the weapons that cost 390 dungeon tokens past level 40, etc.)

I currently have 48 pristine fractal relics, and if each run has taken approximately one and a half hours, then I have spent 3 days of my life playing this game and doing something that isn’t even fun. (Which is an understatement. I swear I get cliffside and underground every other run, and this doesn’t include the times somebody has DC’d before the update)

I will not return to this dungeon until this problem is resolved, lol. There is no worthy reward for completing higher levels. There are better exotics and gold from CoF farm, which is an entirely different discussion.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, DO NOT REMOVE THIS!

It has no impact on anything significant, it is solely a visual effect and not an exploit.
People actually have fun with it. Removing it would make your game less fun for many people.
There are much bigger problems to focus on. It’s not like spinning a greatsword around is doing any harm.

Mesmer.

I have 4 level 80s, all exotic/ascended gear (Mes, Guard, Thief, and Warrior), and from my experience I like mesmer the best for a blend of damage, support and self sustainability. While the others are certainly useful (and arguably, equally survivable with good utility), I always find myself coming back to my mesmer to do dungeons and fractals because with the build I have I can still be very useful and do good damage while staying alive. Alternatively, there are many occasions where I do reroll my guardian or warrior to achieve a different purpose, but overall I prefer my mesmer. The utility skills are unique, as well as fun, and I just don’t get the same feeling on other professions. Guardian would be my second recommendation, if you would prefer to survive more and give greater group support over damage and utility. And again, you can run different builds on both of these professions to do similar things, it’s all about the play-style you prefer!