I’ve been spending time teaching the pugs how to do Nuhoch. I always do it with 17 or 18 because there are always extra people in the lane not willing to coordinate. We might have had a phase 2 kill last night if I had pushed it, but decided to play it safe and go to phase 3. Not sure I’ve seen it bug out on phase 3 before, or else I would have pushed for it.
The main issues are that a) it’s hard to get maps set up when it’s entirely a pug map and you don’t have the reputation that LUCK has and b) a lot of people don’t want to have to switch to DPS build if they aren’t already set up for it.