Guild Wars 2

Two weeks now of getting constantly disconnected with this error . Last 7 minutes I’ ve been kicked back to the characters selection screen three times. It’s getting worse and worse.

1. Location: Athens, Greece
2. Time and date: All the time since last update
3. Game World: Gunnar’s Hold
4. Description: At random times , no matter where I am, I lag and after a bit I m thrown back to characters selection screen after getting error code 7:11:3:191:101. Sometimes I am able to play an hour without problem, others I get dced 4 times within 10 minutes. Game is really unplayable like this, prior to update I never had this specific problem.

Ever since last update ,I keep disconnecting (often 3-4 times within the hour) and getting this error, no matter where I am. Basically I get thrown back to the character selection screen and, as my internet connection is fine, I am able to enter back to the game. But 20-30 mins later, it is a given I ll disconnect again, before the update I didn’t have any problem with this error.

When is the maintenance going to end? It’s been more than 4 hours now , but I , as well, am unable to use the lfg tool for the same reasons.

hihey.1075:

Zorainda.3495:

Just wanted to say that BROS guild reflects poorly on FSP server. Twice now they have apparently glitched towers in EB and attempted to take them. First time Klovan, we found two inside attacking lord without any wall or the gate being down. Second time Aldon’s, and while our group was fighting at overlook, the tower suddenly turned blue,without swords ever appearing. Same guild again and no siege at all around the tower, so perhaps another glitch.

I ve never seen anyone else from FSP exploiting glitches like this, so no one is accusing the whole server, but it does add a sad note to the great game we are having this past week.

They are also known for interrupting duels and killing everyone, when everyone from both servers was just watching.
But they seem to roam only in EB, so it is safe if you play in BL :/

There were just two incidents in our BL . First in garri, same guild of losers from FSP (BROS) , this time using golem. It was at inner without apparently any outer wall or gate breached.

Second time in sunnyhill, they just flew in. Sadly I reached the tower after they got in, however in screenshot you can see them inside with no wall or gate down. (Sorry for the low quality photo, was on laptop XD )

At this point I just wonder, how can you guys still fail so miserably even after using all those hacks? Needless to say you are and will be constantly reported, Cheers!

localghost.9145:

The BROS people seem to have left EB for greener pastures this evening. They glitched into our garrison and later in the evening as we ran up to sunnyhill one of them flew up on the wall and ported the rest of them in. Very sad behaviour.

hehe yeah I was there watching the lameness

Just wanted to say that BROS guild reflects poorly on FSP server. Twice now they have apparently glitched towers in EB and attempted to take them. First time Klovan, we found two inside attacking lord without any wall or the gate being down. Second time Aldon’s, and while our group was fighting at overlook, the tower suddenly turned blue,without swords ever appearing. Same guild again and no siege at all around the tower, so perhaps another glitch.

I ve never seen anyone else from FSP exploiting glitches like this, so no one is accusing the whole server, but it does add a sad note to the great game we are having this past week.

Corvus.3728:

I would love to restart this match-up in couple of weeks when all the people are back from holiday. I think the PvE patch, ppl on summer-holiday and the guilds leaving/gaining, made this match-up invalid. I think not only for AS or UW but also GH it must have been annoying not having many resistance when your looking for fights. So I say untill the next time we meet in the new season and lets decide then who really is strongest and who has most coverage! lets do it w/o whining or fighting and lets do it with real actions…

Let me start by saying that in general and even though I hadn’t faced you before in a match-up, I had and still have much sympathy for Underworld. If it had been only up to me back when I started playing GW2, I would have joined your server cause of the Greek presence there. However, I don’t understand why this match should be invalid? Summer and pve content affect all servers, I myself havent been as active this past week due to holidays. I get what you are saying here, I ve read how strong UW has been in other matches, but guilds and people in general come and go from every server almost every week. If next time we meet UW has gained a couple of guilds, GH has lost a few more, and generally inner balances have changed, should we claim then that the match is invalid, just because of our past strength? We can point out the problems each server is facing just like you say and which of course might give a wrong impression for each server’s potential, but going as far as to label a whole match invalid is unfair in my opinion for all the people that tried their best , despite all those temptations outside WvW (pve updates, vacations, sun shining outside your window )

Genotix.6804:

I might be the only greek at GH though:)

you think so

We’re pretty much talking to ourselves here, so I ll just say good job Gunnar’s for fighting most of the time both servers attacking you and keep it up. I hope the fights FR vs AS are entertaining as well, cause just flipping camps and killing sentries might be a bit dull.

Slow.7895:

Thats cute Grevender as GH is dropping ACs left, right and middle <3

If any of our previous opponents from RoS or RoF are checking in on this – thank you for an awesome week. Makes it so much easier to go and hunt dem PvE pixels this time around. Too kitten blobby when even the camps are being flipped and guarded with groups of 10s.

Ta-ta o/

Honestly, if in that matchup instead of , for example RoF, you had BT, I doubt the maps would be much different than what they are now, considering RoS’ power and numbers. It’s a 3way match, since GH can fuel WvW with more players and have more WvW focused guilds than both the rest two servers, it’s expected that the groups roaming will be bigger (without blobbing being a specific tactic we follow, actually many groups are just guild groups with a couple of pugs following) and the acs built will seem more.

But every server puts acs, I ve been wiped quite a few times by WSR and BT acs, and thats ok, however I do think your comparison with what Grevender says is unfair. We are talking about so much siege built by servers with so many people roaming as a mass, that – considering their numbers and WvW experience – they shouldn’t even need half of them against us. But that’s how they roll and with a bit of reading in other matchup threads , you ll see even higher tier than both of you and us servers complaining about same people. Comparing us to them is kind of untimely.

Krosan.2890:

Well, lets just say we weren’t expecting this match up.
Rof has never really had to put up with two servers who outnumbers us this bad in a long while, your average guild group is bigger then our average zerg it seems.
We will try to make the best of it!

When the new matchup system was introduced, GH’s first opponents were Piken Square and Riverside , an even more unbalanced matchup. So at first we were like “what the…” and many were annoyed, however it ended up being one interesting and to a certain point enjoyable week. Surely we came third , without ever threatening any of the rest two servers, however it was a drama free week, points had no meaning at all, we had less places to defend and worry about , every loss was treated as “well duh, no surprise” and every win gave us double pride. I thought we would be erased from all maps, but we actually stood our ground well. I’m happy it only lasted one week of course, but it was an interesting “break”. I am sure it can turn like that for RoF too Good luck !

Nice to see WSR again , one of the servers that made good impression to me both in and out of the game (aka forums) last time we fought them.

Blacktide is my old server, I don’t know other European server that has lived through such glory days (back when we were shining in tier 1) followed by such a long and painful fall ( those mornings when we had no more than 2 camps :/ ). It’s nice to see that the server has slowly improved again from when I last was there. Keep it up!

I know GH has more WvW focused players, better coverage etc, but I honestly hope we all enjoy this matchup as much as we can. Good luck to both of you

Lord Haw Haw.2648:

I will gladly send your warm welcome to the thief, (Description?), and I feel sorry for most people who have to get the PoI/vista/skill point in the higher tiers(got all of mine done while we were still drowning in the tears of tier 9).

On the issue of upscales, I gladly kill delicious upscales all the time anything to make someone lose their cool and come back on a lvl 80 for some more enjoyable fighting. Happened to me so many times that I stopped bringing upscales to the wvw party unless I am running with TAZ which is rare.

Honestly I wish I could remember more , I was downed so fast ( and right after lagged so bad when a bunch of people dropped down) that I only saw him again from far when the other lowbie was attacked (and I had made sure my lvl 4 noobie was in some safe corner by then). So I don’t know , say hi to all of them I guess ! XD

I never really switch to my 80s if I am killed on a lowbie, except if it is to defend a keep or something that is heavily attacked (and me on a lowbie doesn’t really help it much). So my cool stayed akittens place.

p.s seriously this “kitten” censorship thing…i just wrote at and then its…. :/

Noss.4105:

Awww it does sound like some people at GH are focusing on the “whining” aspect of this matchup rather than the actual fun of defeating any of the other two servers.

Whatever makes your boat float

I’ve been killed, saved by friends and escaped death in WvW many times on my lowbie chars too. But I don’t tell everyone about it here. You know why?
Because no one cares. It’s WvW and you’re supposed to kill players with red name.

First of all, copying another person’s post and just altering some words to try and make a point, lacks imagination. Also thanks for putting your statement in bold, I might have missed it otherwise , cause as I said the post was too much of a copycat of mine

Also I don’t see me anywhere “whining” about being attacked or killed, I know it can happen the moment you enter any WvW area. Of course, personally at least, I never go after ppl so low in level cause it’s not fun however many others (from all servers) do.

And last (and more important) I was making a parallel of “opportunistic” playstyle that was already being mentioned by someone else. If I wanted to come here and complain about being attacked , I would have done it when it happened (2 days ago) and would have mentioned how it is unfair to kill lowbies or other stuff of the same mentality. In fact I was mostly surprised I wasn’t dead , as I said.

Thanks though for adding your own interpretation of my words. Makes me smile

Lord Haw Haw.2648:

Hi Steelo,

A message from our beloved Elnor:

“Maybe should’ve been less oportunistic on reset and weekend on our bl ? It’s coming back to bite you in the kitten now isn’t it.”

Thanks!

Awww it does sound like some people at RoS are focusing on the “payback” aspect of this matchup rather than the actual fun of defeating any of the other two servers.

Whatever makes your boat float

Meanwhile please send my “hi” to that GoA player (i think it was thief) who two days ago came fast after my lvl 4 (!) thief (in obvious starting armour) and tried to kill me as I was trying to enter Ogrewatch to get the poi. Fellow GH players jumped down and pushed him back in time (I was really surprised at how much time it takes one to add two more hits to a downed upscaled player and finish him off before others attack back) so I didn’t die. But since we are talking about opportunistic playstyle, he didn’t miss the chance to add some more kills to his agenda and attacked the next upscaled player he saw ( a charr coming a bit after). All in good fun of course

I don’t care if Steelo sounds irritated or not and maybe he is, what he says though when isolated from any emotions or “whining” is absolute truth and has been since the first day we faced RoS after Xaoc moved there: The bad feelings left between that FRS guild and GH were one of the reasons we were back then (and continued to be) heavily focused. To the point we lost easily from servers we were beating just the weeks before.

Last matchups this feeling of being focused is less and less there , which (alongside other reasons) has lead in my opinion to more even battles.

I don’t think throwing eggs has anything to do with this random bug. After many tries, I managed to do the queen second time (hadn’t got achievement at first kill) and thankfully this time achievement counted.

Both times I killed the boss I hadn’t thrown a single egg at her, it was impossible after all with all this lag I had to get them off the ground before others did.

same here no achievement at all, even though I got credit for the event and got the chests. However it seemed to me that those who got the achievement were more than those who didn’t. In other words there wasn’t as much whining in general chat lol

Same here. We did the event , got both the bonus chest with rares and the actual chest, got the credit for the event, but no achievement at all. Most seem to have got it without problem, yet for several of us the achievement didn’t register.

Sandro.3694:

No purpose whatsoever, and i don’t have special grieff against any of you guys, just telling this week wasn’t fun imo.

Now if you wan’t to summon me to court for giving my opinions…

You have a very nice way of twisting things. You say you never insulted anyone, yet your posts are full of hatred, calling people “kiddies” , “worst community”, “rotten” and insulting a server on its whole.

No , you didn’t just post your personal thoughts about how enjoyable or how boring this matchup was for you, you directly attacked everyone and expressed your personal view on the players rather than the game, while accusing them for doing the same (aka insulting opposite players etc.)

Yet, when people here answered to you , and most were surprisingly polite to your little lecture of how horrible we are, you turn around and victimize yourself with this sentence "now if you want to summon me to court for giving my opinions…’.

If direct insults blindly to everyone of GH is your personal view of us, fine, but then acknowledge everyone else the right to post whatever they want as well, regardless if you consider what they say as “insults”.

Sandro.3694:

I’ve personnaly seen many servers, played against many too, but one thing is sure GH you have the worst community ever from an outside point of view…

i don’t care if you succefully win this matchup, i don’t care if you can’t handle yourselves to come here over and over to taunt/flame, you guys have a so high esteem of yourselves this is becoming ridiculous…

One thing is sure, this matchup is definitively boring, imo this is one of the worst matchup i’ve played, no guildplay, zerg rush, blobs everywhere, and kiddies arguing on forums…

You can take this like you want, but this is just my personnal opinions: this matchup sucks, and i’ve never seen yet a server with such rotten behaviours.

It’s not called rotten behaviours or high self esteem, it’s called sticking up together through wins and through losses, on our forums and on these threads here.

It’s called knowing our weaknesses (more pugs than WvW focused guilds, low morning numbers) , accepting the slaps (dropping tiers) and trying to fight back all over again (this week).

It’s called not making alliances with other servers, not calling for more recruitments on even matchups, not having the win-at-all costs mentality (you’d probably see us still happy even if we came third this matchup, as long as we had succeeded in closing the huge gap of past matchups -which we did).

I am sorry this matchup might have been boring for you as NOM officer (and anyone who agrees with you). Everyone else seemed to be happy we had a close matchup for once and were mainly bothered about the crashes towards the end of it. Thanks for proving that for some (hoping a minority) crashes were never the issue , but perhaps the lack of an easy win which was apparent from reset.

Zumy.6318:

No, because RoS had such big DC problems, they didnt even bother trying to get on the BL or EB anymore.

GH got better, really. But dont get ignorant and think your lead over this past 2 days is because of higher organisation and skills.

You just had the less DC.

I’m not gonna pretend RoS (or DZ for the matter) didn’t face big problems with crashes , if Anet had done its job right this matchup would be even more of a challenge than it already is.

However, still the fact we performed so well this matchup to the point of winning (at the moment at least) can’t be just cause of the less dcs others say we had and not at all cause of better organization. If the fact we didn’t give up cause of the dcs, and (to use your words) we bothered to log again and again in the same borders and attack the same places we were previously dcing at , isn’t a proof of better organization and dedication during the specific match-up, then what is it really? I personally was ready to leave the fight in Bay, cause i couldnt make a step past the walls and our commander was shouting in map he has all day long to keep doing this lol

Had the dcs not taken place , could you really say with certainty RoS would win in the end? When GH was improving day after day and when (as also shown in your previous match-up with RoS and RoF) DZ can be really dangerous when they want to?

I don’t know what will happen next match-up. I know only two things and these are the only facts for me: Crashes are annoying and ruin everyone’s game (to what extent only each person can talk about himself) and GH had always a very weak morning presence we still have to work alot on, since our low numbers have given advantage to anyone that has faced us so far. Everything else is open game for me and a match can always go either way if ofc servers continue to show overall strong performances.

Cameirus.8407:

Yes GH has more poeple on maps, but I doubt thats due to anythign other than them being willing to put up wiht the situation more than others as they had a real possibility of pulling back into the lead (and fair enough). Personally I gave up on borderlands, it was silly the amount of DCs, but I’m not going ot knock people who stuck it out.

Thanks for this. I can’t stretch it enough that we faced crashes too , seems whatever we are saying some of our opponents will keep thinking we are exaggerating.

As Genotix said , in our previous matchups with RoS, we lost by a great difference. We ended up dropping a tier cause of that. We got our slaps in the face, gathered our people and tried hard not only to move back up again, but also balance our well known coverage problem during morning hours with an even stronger prime time. Moreover , we did what we could best to enhance our weak morning presence (lots of people have stayed almost sleepless this week for that). The results of these tries started showing up early on this week, way before the crashes. Hence the matchup was so close and tight (and still is).

Taking the above into account, you really think we would give up once crashes would occur? For me all those crashes were another reason to fight even harder where I was allowed to fight, exactly cause I could see our overall progress getting trashed in the bin in case we let our frustration over the multiple dcs take over. And we had experienced something similar before, when we were getting blobbed by RoS and new to us tier 1 tactics in our first encounters plus with our morning team back then inexistent , many here had kind of thought “to hell with this matchup, I’ll wait for reset”. If some people from RoS or DZ (or even GH) have given up due to crashes, I wouldn’t be surprised. That’s tossing though any other chances to enjoy WvW, cause not everything is bugged and not all the time.

I just don’t understand why frustration over crashes takes away common sense. How can one think that if a keep in one’s BL is bugged for server A and server B, miraculously it won’t be bugged for server C. For hours yesterday I was there , both in attempts to take DZ bay and later RoS bay. And the result was 0. Everytime we would get past the outer walls and try to go inner, we would crash. Again and again and again. People are talking about how easy it is to get higher tick in points if people crash when rushing to defend, but if you are gonna play with this lame logic and underestimate all our efforts , then please remember this works both ways; it’s also easy to get some free ticks if people crash when they rush to attack.

Well I am sorry you cannot reach your keep and enjoy the fighting, but your problem lies with anet not with GH.

We’ve been dcing all the time as well .You seem to have worse luck than us and your problem is specified on your corner in EB, but that doesn’t mean everyone else is full force roaming around. Personally I ve dced 3 times the past 15 mins while trying to defend my keep from your zerg – if we ended up losing the keep the last thing I would do was to come here and complain to the other server why they didn’t just walk away from it. That’s a pretty sad thing to do.

Sure one man doesn’t represent the server at all, that’s why people here await response from one specific guild, especially when the cheater happens to be member of not some random guild, but a good and respected one on RoS server.

The fact he is cheating is undeniable, even if the glitch was random and he wasn’t intending to hack , just as people said above he didn’t port back or anything, he proceeded in deliberately exploiting the glitch.

So I guess getting kicked out from a guild and re-joining it , won’t fix it like people have suggested in the past for same problem? Unless of course every single person in one’s guild is unable to view anything.

Currently I am facing same problem like everyone else in this thread.
Gunnar’s Hold, Order of the silver Lion

Thanks for looking into it, hope for a solution soon. In the past it has happened to me before, however restarting the client a couple of times fixed it. Now it doesn’t seem to work.

I have the exact same problem , I cannot buy anything whereas rest areas of Trading Post work ok. I cannot search for anything either, TP window is just eternally loading. It does seem that it has somnething to do with the changes you introduced, cause the problem doesn’t look like the usual TP delay or occassional error (something that is also happening for many people) which would go away after a restart or on their own after a while.

Trade Post is not focus of the game, but it is an important aspect of it. Being unable to use it properly for long, just makes the whole game harder to play :/

I cannot buy anything from the trade post ever since the last update. Ocassionally I had it lagging like many others, giving me errors etc, but that only lasted from a few minutes to a couple of hours, never this long and usually it had to do with the whole trade post.

Now I can visit the gem store, I can sell items and pick up coins, but I cannot see any item listed for purchase and I cannot find anything via the search engine. In other words, I cannot buy anything , the “Buy from Trade Post” window appears either empty or eternally loading. I tried restarting client etc, several times these days, no result.

^^ take into account lots moved recently since transferring was about to become paid. Hence many guilds, big or small, had to start rebuilding everything either way. Not much influence stocked there.

Ansultares.1567:

And this explains why they couldn’t have included any content for small guilds to engage in by the end of the week (without buying into the resource sink)?

You would think Anet would want to get people enthused about the new content by getting them involved in the new content, not leave them feeling shafted because the new content is actually weeks or months of grinding away.

yes exactly

They already set up tiers for every guild mission. They could have easily made the first level more easily accessible by all, and then have guilds building more and more into the next levels. Obviously again larger guilds would reach the last tiers and the greater rewards faster than small guilds, but that would be ok, cause everyone would have something new and fun to do with his fellow guildies, and the hope of a good reward would be more prominent for all.

How would THAT mess with someone’s fun as to come here and “whine” about our “whining” , I have no clue…

Drasleona.5049:

so my question is this, why are 5 ppl expecting to do the job of 100 people?.

People aren’t complaining why A mission is like this or B mission is like that. People are complaining about access to said missions.

So when small guilds are given proper access to missions -with a logical way of getting so that doesn’t seperate fanbase into classes (rich and powerful vs weaker who have to pay for everything) – and people start coming here asking “why my group of 5 people can’t beat the champion that was designed for 15 people”, then by all means repeat your question.

Give them a fair way to get access to missions, and let them handle them as they think and if they think they can do it, let them try to do it. What exactly that costs to you or any fellow gamer? What part of your fun it messes with?

In other games, raids (that are often compared to this new content) weren’t designed for large guilds. Small guilds and individuals could as well do them, with the obvious disadvantages of course (pugging people, slower progression etc) but they were still able to at least try them and earn rewards, without feeling as B-class gamers who only need to pay and pay and then pay some more for the fun of it.

Heijincks.9267:

I honestly don’t get why people can’t stand being in big guilds. It sounds more like a personal problem. You’re surrounded by strangers every time you play GW2. You don’t even need to talk to fellow guild members. If anything, in big guilds, “cliques” form within it, while the remaining 90% of the guild remains silent.

Being in a big guild doesn’t screw up your gameplay.

The only way I see it would is if you want to develop your small guild as a small guild. If that’s the case, why do you even need to make it bigger in the first place? If you want the content simply for the content, but refuse to make it easier on yourself to achieve the content, that’s like saying “I want HoTW stuff, but I don’t want to do HoTW”.

I think it’s every individual’s right to have their own reasons why they prefer a small or a big guild. I don’t understand either why anyone in any game would be in a big guild, as for me the drawbacks are way more than the positive aspects of it. However , I don’t question their decision to be there and if/when a problem that regards them comes up, I don’t wonder why they chose to be in a big guild in the first place , when they can easily avoid the problem by not being in it. There are so many people that traiditionally prefer small guilds to larger guilds, it’s not about some minority of this game specifically, so Anet in my opinion should take into consideration a big part of their player base has a different game style.

I don’t even understand why it has come down to discussing the motives of an individual that is in a big or small guild. It’s plain preference, all should accept it and any changes should be made with that as a given fact. You simply can’t ask people to change their gamestyle however absurd this type of gamestyle seems to you or me or anyone. You can ask though of specific changes, so that all can enjoy content. People in small guilds know well still there will be differences, still there will be stuff you can do more easily if part of a big guild, but those differences already existed in the game (and in games before this one) and everyone was taking the risk because they weren’t excluded from content. Anywho what I’ m trying to say is I respect your point of view that things ain’t so hard as they may seem now, and small guilds can do the content and we can debate with you and everyone on how and if that can be done, but there is no room for questioning why small guilds want to remain small guilds or why people think being part of a big guilds screws them up.

Nolimitz.9467:

Why should small groups of friends have access to content we as a big guild piled up assets by doing more content than a casual group of friends? I find it unfair that you would get access by doing less than a concerted effort by medium/large guild piling resources together for one goal.

If you find it unfair that everyone who doesnt belong in a big beehive here deserves to be able to participate in the new content, then I find it unfair too that people in big guilds will have worked, individually, far less than any member of medium or small guilds for these missions, yet they will have access to them. Which is true considering how fast influence is gained in big guilds, some might as well contribute almost nothing and still see the missions unlocking. Does it sound fair to you now? grin

What’s wrong with you people, seriously? All of you who suddenly and without any of the rest (nor Anet, nor small guilds) messing up with your game play, suddenly feel offended and come here not to offer anything to the discussion and solution of the problem , but just to say “small guild is not a guild” or how you “feel” it’s fair people to get excluded from game content just cause they have different preferences in guilds??

I would love to see if say Anet was introducing specific activities and rewards that only medium or small guilds would have access to, what you all lots would say.

The current patch, as it is, doesn’t create big problems for you. You can continue your adventure and enjoy the new content as soon as you unlock the missions (if you haven’t already). No one here is asking for a change of content , only for a change on how this content applies to smaller guilds , so any of the changes suggested by people doesn’t affect your fun in the slightest. And yet you come here to tell us you somehow feel “offended” (what the heck??) and pretty much tell is in a rude manner we aren’t guilds and we need to just swallow whatever Anet is giving us and buy our fun?

This mentality is surreal, if you only post here to be against your fellow gamers, I guarantee you can have way more fun by logging back into the game.

Oh and btw to the (fortunately few) people out there who feel the urge to “teach” us what is a guild and what isn’t, so apparently small tied together teams ain’t guilds for them cause they don’t have above 10 active players online all times, these are guilds too you like it or not. Your or mine personal ideas of what a guild should be are totally unimportant; if Anet allows people to form, name and maintain a guild with 5 people online, then that’s a guild according to what the game defines as one. The small guilds will stop being guilds and become “groups” , “teams of friends” and however else you call them when the game decides that any guild below X active members , auto-disbands.

So since they all are guilds, they all deserve equal access to guild content. The differences between a small guild and a big one should resemble the ones you meet in other mmos with guild activities ; need to pug people occasionally to complete missions opposite to not pugging, taking some time to gather influence (emphasis on some) opposite to istantly having it etc.

I don’t understand why some people (who obviously are in large guilds and aren’t facing the issues many here do) keep wondering why rest complaining when you can participate in new content without being in a guild that activated the mission. Assuming there is a mission scheduled by some big guild, how will the rest know about it? Only way (other than us running randomly up and down the maps hoping to stumble upon one) is if the said guild advertises the mission , shouting for more people to join in. But why would a big guild that has the influence to open the missions ( and obviously the numbers to complete it too) would do such a thing? In raids in other mmos, how often you see guilds that have the players needed to do a raid , shouting for pugs? The guilds that do that, asking for random people to team up, are the smaller ones that can’t have all people needed on , all times. But in this game, those guilds won’t even be able to activate the missions, so asking for people to stop complaining cause of the “obvious” solution is kind of pointless?

I also read we shouldn’t complain because the rewards obtained through guild missions, can be obtained through other means. How is that so? Some of the rewards (for example the ascended earrings) can be obtained through laurel vendor too, but the 50 ectos (apart the laurels) needed are not balancing at all the cost in gold needed if you get the ring through guild missions. Again we have to pay way more.

And anyway could someone from anet finally answer a few questions people keep bringing on? Like what is gonna happen with guilds that spread across servers, if guild members participating from different servers in a guild’s event all gain their commendations and merit for their server? And also if you manage to help in another’s guild event as an outsider, do you still get the same rewards, or they are reserved for when you participate in guild missions of your guild?

If small guilds manage to unlock a guild mission either through spending their money or through grinding events and dungeons like crazy (both very fun ways to do so, /sarcasm), will they be able to actually complete those missions? Will all the trouble to unlock a mission in the far future even worth the effort? Or we’ll still find it almost impossible to do those missions due to lack of many members online at scheduled time?

Will there be no other way to obtain the ascended accessories in future patch?

First of I agree with the OP, all of us who prefer to roll in small guilds , we knew the drawbacks – slower building of influence, pugging dungeons more often, not same benefits in WvW etc – and we were fine with them. Because we still weren’t excluded from any activity and we could still get our gear within a logical time.

With this new update they are practically making it almost impossible for us to participate in guild missions with the small guild we set up and loved , and also they triple the time we’ll need to get our earrings – if we ever actually…cause I am not sure if and when small guilds manage to unlock the missions, will they have the people needed to complete them? And please don’t just say “randoms can help”, that’s more easily said than done. What will be a pug’s motive to help you? Will there be any valuable reward?

Some people keep suggesting to “buy the influence”. Sure if I was in a big guild too (and liked to stay there) I could go around post "easy’’suggestions like that. It is a way, but as someone said above, the guilding experience shouldn’t depend on money. I don’t feel like a part of a whole community anymore, rather it’s like I was just thrown into a class struggle; you can join the big and powerful, stay impersonal but get it all easy, or you can remain with the few good pals, hardly get anything done and furthermore empty your pockets in the process.

As the OP says, they took away from us even the ability to recruit more people, in an attempt to help our guilds now that they need it the most.

And cause I read around people comparing this to WoW, saying we finally got our 15 men “raids” and we still complain…it’s not the same at all. You get raid rewards/achievements even in pug groups, here you are forced to do everything with guild for those rewards and if your guild is small, you may as well farewell the idea. Is that 15 number going to apply here too? I mean you will need to have around 10+ doing same time the guild mission for it to count? Cause in that case , not only influence is the problem.

Same here, everytime I go to Lion’s Arch after the patch, I disconnect after a few seconds. When I try to reconnect, the loading screen changes between Lion’s Arch and the area I was before teleporting. As if the game can’t decide where to send me.. I have disconnected 3 times now and all 3 I didn’t manage to stay on the map more than 10 seconds. Please do something about it, enjoying your new update presupposes we are able to play….

I agree with everyone else about magic find. I honestly do not mind at all having in my party a lesser geared player , who honestly tries to make the best of the armor he has at the time, than a full exotic magic find pixel who puts his greed above everything else, wasting our time. If it’s only one player that wears mf gear , that is .

diablodropout.8670:

I request either you fix the disconnect issue with the fractals or simply allow us to do fractals 1 at a time for credit instead of 3.
not being able to join your team due to a ISP or game crashing issue should not be penalized. thank you.

Yes please. I feel I m being punished every day either cause my connection might not be great or cause I happened to group up with a quitter . Hours of tries to progress one simple level go wasted. How would you feel if you were stuck 3 days now at difficulty 2 , without this being your poor performance’s fault?

Same happened to me in one of my runs, and actually 3 out of 4 members (one had disconnected earlier so we continued with 4) got trapped in same cage. Like rest, I did not manage to loot the chest that spawned shortly after our imprisonment, lost the tokens.

Though the fact I disconnected in the next map and lost the overall progress was way more frustrating.

When I read people saying “This happened to me just now/yesterday/etc”, some part of me feels like the joke’s on me. Because I have been trying for days now to get past lvl 2 and can’t exactly for this reason. Just today I reached 4th map’s boss and dced on 3 seperate times. And all 3 times, someone had dced/left during an earlier map, so all 3 times I reached the final boss before unlocking lvl 3 with only 4 people. In other words took even more time.

Imagine the frustration, to do 9 maps in a row for hours and still not unlock the next difficulty because these awesome new dungeons were so poorly thought

Rinbox.2570:

Shiren.9532:

It’s not a bug. It’s how it works. Read the dungeons sub forum for a developer comment on this.

what post are you referring to exactly? im looking at “DC in fractals. no way to get back in” on the front page of the dungeon forums where Robert Hrouda says that this is indeed a bug and a fix is in the works

I read the post you are referring to, but he doesn’t say it is bug, he does say however they are aware of the problem and they are looking into a fix.

Since the mechanics they used for FoM follows Story Steps formula, it was expected dungeon would reset for the person disconnecting (like it happens in Story Steps). So to me it appears it isn’t a bug, something unpredictable that wasn’t supposed to happen, but a side-result they didn’t take much into account and now has created problems and they are looking how to fix it. I might be wrong, but that’s what comes out from their posts.

It’s also unfair for the rest, not just the person who disconnects. A run might go wasted in cases where someone has to leave due to real life issues, not just for him, but for the rest as well, if the difficulty is high and obviously they cannot replace the person missing. Happened to me a lot.

Blacktide Server

Noll appeared, event started, counted us done, but none of us got mail/credit for it , neither we can talk to him to continue to next phase.

Thanks for the update. With two more phases coming up, hopefully everything will have been fixed while there is still time to do it .

Please fix the FoM dungeon bugs! Can’t join my group if I crash/dc.

THIS! I know might be a tiny bit off topic cause this thread isn’t about FoM…but really it was introduced with this super duper buggy patch and if anything, it is the most frustrating thing so far, I m still trying to get past that difficulty 1 cause of all the dcs or quittings…

pls tell me what exactly in this update isn’t bugged?

Can’t aggro Canach cause he is just standing “green” and “friendly”
Can’t go to Noll cause he decided to vanish.
Can’t kill karka cause you can’t even see them.
Can’t complete FoM cause someone in your party (or yourself) happened to dc (<- honestly this is the most annoying for me ,considering the time you might have spent in there…)

This event lasts until Sunday only, and it already has so many bugs that I m starting wondering if the time is enough to complete it : ( Unless you are all the time online, not all of us have unlimited gaming time though.