Guild Wars 2

I don’t see how anybody could think that rng in the mystic forge for their prec is either fun, legendary, or necessary. It’s not the grind. I did the title grind in spvp for “slayer” just because I wanted that, no matter how arbitrary it is.

But imagine going for all of your titles and you have to build those titles one letter at a time. But the catch is to complete the title you have to gamble your materials and gold for one letter repeatedly and never have a guarantee that all your time spent wasn’t a TOTAL WASTE.

Maybe the rng grind could be 2 letters. F and U

Esmee.1067:

aarrgghhh.6309:

You are both missing the point completely.

How can we acquire prec’s currently?

1. Random drop (insane odds)
2. Gamble and sacrifice time and gold into Mystic Forge (insane odds)
3. REAL MONEY (I’m not broke. But I’m also not interested in buying virtual currency for items that affect performance in-game. I have bought 3 skin sets with $$$, black lion keys, and a booster with $$$.
4. GRIND the ANTI-FUN boss chains in FG/QD, GRIND events over multiple servers for peanuts, or GRIND on the TB with a lot of time and marginal profit.

You guys really think this is a GOOD SYSTEM? You think it’s LEGENDARY?

Do you think it’s fun?

This sums up literally everything. I have good news for you, skins don’t affect your game-play at all! Yes, sit down, take a deep breath and stop worrying, you don’t need this item after all, there’s no reason to panic. Keep breathing, in… and out… Now aren’t we relieved?

By the way if BiS-gear is your way of winning the game there’s Ascended Gear. About 200-300g per weapon (and some Skillpoints/Karma/Ascended Materials) and 400-600g per set of gear and voila, you have Best in Slot. Say worst case, you’re light armor, use 4 different weapons and 2 underwater weapons, that’s still ‘only’ 2100g, way cheaper than a Legendary on average, which is only 1 single weapon.

Legendaries have been introduced for those people who do want a grind, who do need a carrot to chase after. The idea was that it involves doing every aspect of the game (Dungeons, Badges, Exploration and loads of time spend playing the game to receive the Materials.) But due to the Trading Post that idea is a bit blurred because it’s more beneficial to buy everything. If you don’t like this, why would you even want a Legendary? The only thing that sets them appart is that they’ll be Best in Slot forever, is that worth ~3000g to you?

So yes, I’m fine with the system. Luck will always be a major factor in every single game MMO. (Why? Because RNG makes sure things drop, but are still special, it also gives your average Joe a chance to be rich rather than just those who excel at trading or have plenty of time, which leads to people having hope rather than ‘give up’ on a game since their goal is unreachable.)

I’m quite good at having horrible luck and I love Guild Wars 2 for that reason, and many others. I don’t need to be lucky to progress unlike in other MMO’s, it’s all skins I don’t need. I still want plenty of them, but I get them when playing the game has given me enough gold to do so, I don’t have to get lucky. I play the typical raid-progression MMO with my boyfriend and it’s a bit depressing how in guilds we often end up having all the drops go to me after about 8 raids since everyone but me already has it anyway, in PuGs this simply means I have to do tons and tons of (time-gated) raids before I can progress to the next difficulty, by that time I usually have seen the raids enough to not care for Nightmare Mode at all, so ye… I love Guild Wars 2 because Luck is a bonus, not a must.

But ye… I would be more interested in Legendaries if they were more than a grind, maybe the new ones will be! (As if…)

Um, I guess I know this is an internet forum and as such people love to skim and reply to what they got from said skim and act like it is an actual reply to said forum post thinking that they are actually engaged in a discussion when in reality they just cherry picked a few lines and replied to those to suit their own opinion and stance which is all they wanted to share in the first place… but

wait no… pretty much that.

Guys, someday, sometime we will get the precursor. And here’s a photo timeline of how we’re gonna look before and after.

thehipone.6812:

I made Frostfang yesterday. I say this not to brag, but provide context. The last thing that I needed was the precursor and yesterday my buy order got filled and I was like “Yeah! My order got filled!”. Then I thought about it a little more…and how sad this was. It wasn’t like any other game where it was like “Oh yeah! Sweet drop!” The loot/precursor system is so bad that any excitement is tied to a transactional purchase. No storybook, no epic quest, no real difficulty other than staving off boredom. I guess I “earned” it by grinding out 500+ gold, but it was a bit of a letdown the more I thought about it.

This is exactly what I’m talking about dude. You did earn that and good on you, for real, grats, but I can imagine you being like, “sweet?” when the order got filled.

Since we gotta kill yaks one million times to get the Yakslapper title, why not have the title of “Brain Dead” or “Grind for Brains” or something for killings on the boss trains a million times, or one million server hops for events. lol

Welp, seems like the general consensus is that everyone is cool with the status quo.

I’m sorry if i want a marked progression towards a legendary that does not involve recycling content hundreds, thousands of times to make piecemeal gold, or sit in front of the trade broker chin in hand clicking away mindlessly or spin the roullete wheel that is the mystic forge…

So you’re right, I will forget about the legendary then. I don’t want a legendary if I have to kill the Champion Icebrood Kodan one million times, or click one million times for one million items in the MF or Broker.

Sorry for wanting a fun alternative that doesn’t involve a recycled content rng grind or unneccessary gambling.

You are both missing the point completely.

How can we acquire prec’s currently?

1. Random drop (insane odds)
2. Gamble and sacrifice time and gold into Mystic Forge (insane odds)
3. REAL MONEY (I’m not broke. But I’m also not interested in buying virtual currency for items that affect performance in-game. I have bought 3 skin sets with $$$, black lion keys, and a booster with $$$.
4. GRIND the ANTI-FUN boss chains in FG/QD, GRIND events over multiple servers for peanuts, or GRIND on the TB with a lot of time and marginal profit.

You guys really think this is a GOOD SYSTEM? You think it’s LEGENDARY?

Do you think it’s fun?

Saulius.8430:

aarrgghhh.6309:

But the amount of time, energy, and gold one potentially has to invest in getting just a chance at a precursor

i find this part disturbing

invest in getting chance

invest into chance

what does that even mean?

is it like trying to get ferrari , by blowing out all the hard earned money in kazino?

no no, to get ferrari you save, build up passive income, and get it LATER

Yeah… I know right? If I work long enough at Mcdonalds and just save! save! save! I’m totally getting that ferrari bro.

You might not be able to wrap your head around that idea either, so what that means is the grind is equivalent to a minimum wage worker expecting to buy a very high dollar item through his hard work and dedication and ethic. It’s possible in theory, right? So the system must be working as intended. THAT FERRARI IS TOTALLY GONNA BE WORTH FLIPPING ALL THESE BURGERS BRO TOTALLY

Ashabhi.1365:

Aarrgghhh:

I do sympathize with you, however the question begs to be asked…

Is crafting a Legendary Weapon the defining outcome of the game to you? What would you do once you have crafted your preferred Legendary Item?

I don’t ask to be snarky, as some people have the goal of gaining every last BiS piece of gear, others just want to be competitive in WvW, and yet others only want that Legendary carrot on the stick.

In the end, it depends upon exactly how badly you want to craft that Legendary. If the need is bad enough, the safest, most guaranteed method of getting your precusor is the WOTC* method. Then and only then are you guaranteed to get your precursor. Otherwise, be prepared to keep on doing what you’re doing now and hope something comes through….

Good luck.

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WOTC=Whip Out The Card (trade gems for gold)

Lol. That’s a great acronym. Hmmm… what would I do? Maybe roll an alt and cruise through the different storylines. Might be more inclined to go a dink around on story mode quests at their appropriate levels, might collect a bunch of mats to craft a set of gear just b/c it looks cool. I would relax, really.

Cause if I did any of that now, it would be time wasted in terms of getting the legendary. I never was one to get a character to max level and just reroll for fun, not getting that first toon as far as it can go.

This is coming from someone with full exotic zerk, 2 ascended armor pieces, 3 ascended trinkets, 3k AP. So what I have does me just fine. I can access any part of the game. Can stomp in WvW (go gom!!), all pve from AC to tequatl, and have at least a 1:1 ratio in spvp. In short, I’m not a newb in 80 rares QQing about things I don’t have a grasp on.

I acknowledged your reply in my original post. You’re not wrong. You’re saying my alternative is insane grinding with very minimal enjoyment, and complete gambling. Apparently you think that’s legendary.

What if in some twilight zone I could complete an event, get the loot, and while it might not be worth a lot, doing the event itself would be furthering my legendary quest? What if I didn’t have to do the same, completely inane FG/QD boss train, which are really perverted, just to get ahead? What if there was a FUN and VIABLE and REALISTIC way to get a legendary?

I realize the term “realistic” is subjective. I also realize that many, many players don’t have or never will have the thousands of hours the hardcore grind or die types have to dedicate to getting these items.

EDIT: And excuse me if I am impatient, but I don’t play this game to plan ahead at having items in 2015.

Tom, do you think it is in Anets best interest, or my best interest, to do something I hate repeatedly for an insane amount of time, and in a perverted way (server hopping, key farming, boss trains) to get something that I need/want? Do you think that this grind in a game that is not supposed to be about grinding, and farming in a game that is supposed to be the solution to that style, is legendary? Is it fun? Is it worth it?

First I’d like to say that I really enjoy GW2. I haven’t played as long as many of you, but in the 600 hours or so that I have spent in game (crazy that 600 is considered low, huh?) I can honestly say most of it has been dedicated to acquiring a precursor weapon (specifically dusk), either directly (mystic forge) or indirectly (pray to overcome insane odds and get one from the boss trains in Frostgorge Sound, Queensdale, or farming events across 3 servers, dumping money and a lot of time on the trade broker, and lastly even farming for black lion keys via the human commoner story line farm).

I didn’t start playing GW2 for this kind of play style. I’ll gladly admit that nobody is forcing me to do anything in game, and how I spend my time is up to me. That being said, I think we all can safely agree that GW2 is a game and naturally winning is a part of that. Not winning as in team 1 beats team 2 necessarily, but acquiring the best gear in the game can be seen as winning. To me it’s not about hanging around in LA with a bunch of shiny gear to flaunt my accomplishments, nor is it related to some superiority (look what I have and you don’t) complex. Getting the best in GW2 is like beating the final boss in a single player game in a way. It’s achieving something.

But the amount of time, energy, and gold one potentially has to invest in getting just a chance at a precursor is so discouraging that it’s made me forget why I even play in the first place. It’s quite literally become the entire game to me and I’m really starting to detest it.

These so-called Legendary Weapons are nothing more than Luck and Chance Weapons. What is so “legendary” about a player having to drop all of his gold success into a roulette table (a la Mystic Forge) for just a chance at the item he/she needs? I have felt defeated in this game so many times because of this. It has not been fun and honestly at this point even if I do get a precursor weapon from the forge, I doubt I’ll even be all that happy.

Some little sword icon popping up on the right side of my monitor saying “insert precursor weapon title here” while I spend my accomplishments on gambling is how I am supposed to succeed in getting this “legendary weapon”?

Or perhaps I can do the boss/event trains and port around all over the maps and multiple servers not caring what I see, not caring about the fight I’m in with whatever champ or dragon, but only the box after, and that little sword icon popping up with “dusk” next to it. Or not even that, maybe just an item worth 40 silver so I can save up and buy a prec directly from the broker for 800+ gold A price that is certainly going to rise in the future as it has all along. Or I can gamble yet again with the forge and try not to pull my hair out seeing another Carrion Greatsword or Pearl Greatsword. There’s nothing “legendary” about doing that. What sense of accomplishment am I supposed to have when playing like that?

Undoubtedly some of you will respond (or think as much) to this posting with an attitude of “it’s your choice, nobody is making you go for a legendary, you can get by with what you have, and if you don’t see the scenery along the way it’s because you’re not looking… etc. etc…” And you would not be wrong in the least.

But I know there are A LOT of players who are doing the exact same thing as me (look up the how to make gold videos on youtube, and the amount of views they have. The amount of X weapons into forge 0 precursor vids there are). We are not having fun with this current system. It’s discouraging and disappointing. It’s anti-fun. It’s working hard for a gamble.

If the marketers at Arena Net think that a player like me is going to see this situation and drop $$$ to pay for what I am trying to get, they are dead wrong. Why would I spend money on something that A ) is a complete gamble with virtual items, and more importantly B ) something I am not having fun with.

I know I’m not offering a solution in this post. There are many out there already that I won’t get into. All I can hope is that sometime Arena Net will introduce a realistic path to legendary weapons that appeals to both the hardcore players, and casuals alike, without the needless and disappointing amount of RNG involved. It’s a tall order, but I believe is certainly possible.

I’m glad I’m not the only one feeling this way. I chose guardian on a whim a few months ago when I started, and of course now that I have made a full zerker set, started my ascended armor crafts (just zojja’s gloves done so far), and made it to 50% map completion, am I realizing just how much I wish I’d have made a warrior.