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3. Spawning world bosses using consumables for guild merits/influence.
You guys made a game where people can join 5 guilds at the same time. So people join one for guild missions with friends, one for WvW raids, one for doing dungeons and, for example, TxS only to kill Tequatl and Wurm. We can’t even comprehend why you did such a thing since even players from 500 people guilds join TTS or TxS just so they can kill Tequatl/Wurm. Do you really think that giving people the ability to spawn those events will somehow magically change the way guilds work? The only thing that this will lead to is flaming and whining on the forums because guilds with 35 players are able to spawn Tequatl, but it’s too hard for them to kill it! Nerf it! Just like what happened with the Mad King jumping puzzle.

ArenaNet idea: Tequatl and Wurm might be fun events for casual guilds to try. Let’s make it so that they can, given the guilds are able to grind for merits and influence, queue their own world bosses!
In doing so, we will force our guild mission content on all the guilds that are not designed for guild missions at all. On top of that, offering double rewards for having to do guild missions not only in the guild that is meant for that, but also in a world boss guild just so they can unlock the content the guild is purposed for is obviously out of the question.

Question: Now you expect people to do guild missions in more than one guild? What for? Will they get twice as much commendations? Probably not. Will we be able to gather enough merits to spawn Tequatl twice and Wurm once a day? Everyday?
TxS guilds exists only to keep all the people together in one place because we all want to kill Tequatl and Wurm. We never wanted to do guild missions together, or any other guild activity for that matter, to be honest. Not to mention you allow players from different servers to join the same guild. How do you expect TxS or TTS to gather influence and merits for those “consumables” if each server carries its own influence?
You can’t just force those ways on every guild. Certain guilds serve one purpose and one purpose only. We kill Tequatl and Wurm and that is the only thing we do, as everyone has their own guilds for guild missions already.

Our solution: If you really want us to spawn those events using influence/merits you should make sure that both will not be server-based anymore on the same day as the patch hits, not half a year later.


You might think that this post is just another old man’s rant, but it is not. Since the information release of the Megaserver patch we had pleasure to talk about it on TeamSpeak with at least 500 of our guildies and those are the concerns that were raised.
Now, ArenaNet! Don’t take this the wrong way; the idea behind this Megaserver patch is awesome it will help casual players in whatever they want to do, but it seriously hinders the thousands of organized non-casual players like us.

To give you the simplest example, look at your statistics, how many times did Vabbi kill Tequatl or Wurm? Now let me ask you another question: do you really think that the great population of Vabbi gathered around and did that? And do you really think that getting more casual players on the same map will lead to them successfully finishing those hard events? There is a reason we have an organized guild like this, because it takes a lot of organisation and cooperation and teamwork to kill these bosses.

You usually do not get feedback like that from communities like ours because we know that it will probably get ignored anyway and we won’t accomplish anything, but this time is different since the patch puts the survival of guilds like ours in serious question. Lots of people in our guild, like myself, only play this game because we have these events where the organising and doing them as a team is the last fun part of Guild Wars 2. If this ends, many will consider leaving, like me.

This is a serious matter to us, so I’d like to ask the general community of the game not to use this topic for flaming or trolling because you won’t accomplish anything anyway.

As a leader of TxS I am also asking members of our alliance not to participate in flaming wars if any were to occur. Be polite, respectful and stay on topic.

(Big thanks for Chiiwii and Fyridor for spell-check and grammar ^^)

Agentka
Former TXS Alliance Leader,
now Northern Lights EU community Leader

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Guild Alliances on Upcoming Patch

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(I would hereby like to request forum moderators not to merge this topic with other Megaserver feedback threads. We don’t just want to give feedback, we want to raise serious concerns here regarding the future of guilds like ours, rather than being lost among flame and suggestion posts. Thank you in advance.)

At the start I would like to apologise. It is not my intention to offend anyone, especially not ArenaNet nor any person that plays in GW2. I will state the facts as they are without any sugar-coating and sometimes truth is harsh, so don’t take it the wrong way.

Let’s start with a short introduction; I’m Agent, one of the three leaders of the biggest EU community dedicated to slaying Tequatl and Triple-Headed Wurm and probably all the future “hard” bosses we might get. The TxS Alliance, as we call that community, is a home for over a thousand players enjoying the complicated events in-game. The Alliance is spread over 4 multi-server guilds; TKS, THS, TSS and TXS. We usually kill Tequatl at least twice a day (more than 300 confirmed kills) and we managed to kill the Triple-Headed Wurm over 50 times since its release. This all would place us amongst the most experienced in these events.

Of course, we are not the only ones; NA servers have its own community called TTS (which exists of 10 or more guilds and houses around 5,000 players). Since we operate in the same way I think that I speak on behalf of all those people.

We have created said communities for these hard events, but with the upcoming Megaserver patch, that will most likely come to an end. This is why:


1. Average population per map copy: +225%.
This is how we organize our events: Get around 120 people on TeamSpeak, guest to a server, check if the map is empty, invite all your members and kill Tequatl/Wurm. I guess I do not have to remind anyone that maps fit 150 people at most.

ArenaNet’s idea: Get everyone, regardless of server, on the same map. This way, every instance of every map will usually be almost full.
I understand the point of view of developers; you basically want to squeeze as many people as possible on a map so “casual” players will always have someone to play with.
But hey.. what about the NON-casual players?

Question: How we are supposed to do these events now when ¼ of the people will end up on map instance one, ¼ on map instance two, ¼ on map instance five and ¼ on whatever other map instance there is? If your answer would be: “But people from the same guild will end up on the same map!”, that might be true, but to what extent? You will end up on the same map, but that map will already have people on it. What happens to those people when more guildies try to join in and the map is already full? Do those people get ported over to a different map instance, or will the guildies not be able to get in anymore?
Not to forget about: “Average population from the same guild as the player on joined map: +5%”. As mentioned before, we are not just one guild; we’re spread across four.

Our solution: Guild-specific map instances. Since we can pay gems to make our private pvp arenas, why can’t we pay gems to create our private Sparkly Fen, or Bloodtide Coast? Where only specific guilds can enter?


2. World bosses spawn time changes.
I do not know what statistics you guys look at in your office but I can tell you now that no-one will kill Tequatl at 04:00 AM in Europe. How did you even pick those times? Since September we kill Tequatl every day and I must say that our guildies never asked us to kill Tequatl at any of those ridiculous times before.

ArenaNet’s idea: Since we already squeezed all the people on the same maps so they are not empty, how about we limit world bosses to only one kill per day, at a realistic time? That’s great! Now these maps will always be full at this hour because, let’s be reasonable, there’s only one time most of the people will manage to join after work/school/university/life in general. (Which is 19:00 cet)

Question: What exactly was wrong with Tequatl/Wurm spawning every 2 hours? People/Servers could pick whatever hour they wanted to and finish those events at a convenient time but now they can’t. “You will be able to spawn those bosses using consumables bought with guild merits/influence” NO. Which takes us to the problem number 3.

Our solution: Um… leave the spawn times like they were and everyone will be happy? Because there was totally nothing wrong with that.


Agentka
Former TXS Alliance Leader,
now Northern Lights EU community Leader