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Great more out of touch developers not understanding what chrono (the hardest class to play by far) does for the game, just fantastic. You are about to knee cap the bulk of your community which will lead to overall dissatisfaction and less enjoyment all around.
I’ll pitch in on this thread, as there seems to be some confusion about this situation.
The auto-cast feature was never intended to be used as an AFK farming mechanism, and usage of the auto-cast feature while AFK is fine as long as it is not used to facilitate unattended gameplay.
Mastery auto-loot also stopping players from being flagged afk seems like a bug instead of a feature, and I’ll be sure to bring it up today while we have a chat about this internally.
1) Using skill (1 or more) while AFK
2) AFKing in a place where it is beneficial for your character to be at
3) Unresponsive to interaction with GMsIf all 3 of these apply to what you are doing, you may get actioned for it.
You are in conflict with game support lead. Hopefully over the next couple of days we get a unified stance.
This is not a proper clarification. If this was a court of law you would be losing the case. I am a victim of your in progress system and my case number is 2210650. I was given an “unlawful” 24 hours suspension.
TL;DR: If you’re AFK; your avatar should be idle.
I’ll further clarify.
You are in no way allowed to use a third party program or script to accomplish this part: “your pets are doing the killing and your mastery is doing the looting”.
If a GM moves you or speaks to you and you don’t respond – then you are partaking in unattended gameplay and may have your account warned/suspended/terminated (depends on how many violations the account had previously). Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted
Game Security GMs are trained to remove afk players that are interacting with the game, environment, or other players from the game. Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted
Game Support GMs are trained to handle such appeals while being acutely aware of why/how Game Security is handling accounts. Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted
1. Opening statement is potentially conflicting with what follows. Failed to describe the term " idle" for your purposes.
2. " You are in no way allowed to use a third party program or script to accomplish this part: ‘your pets are doing the killing and your mastery is doing the looting’ ".
Failed to address the conflict between this and what is mechanically possible ingame by ctrl + right click function(exception should be up for consideration on this) that does not require script or third party modification of any sort and players have been punished for.
Should go without saying how unfair that punishing is when given that ctrl + right click is a core function and you are arbitrarily determining when it becomes punishable; not something anyone should be able to guess or know without looking it up. IMPORTANT to note that you are not even communicating this ingame in a cease and desist format. You’re straight up suspending or worse without telling players about their infractions as it happened in my case. 2210650 again is my support ticket number in case you’re in the mood to see my data and how poorly I was treated.
3. “If a GM moves you or speaks to you and you don’t respond – then you are partaking in unattended gameplay and may have your account warned/suspended/terminated (depends on how many violations the account had previously). Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted”
Under what criteria are GMs allowed to move or try to have you respond ? I can recall one instance that I just arrived at a location and started a conversation with another person pet farming and in the middle of that conversation I was teleported; important to note that I wasn’t auto casting anything yet while this took place. Still the “drones” acted on me without any persecution or opportunity for me to defend myself against this harassing behavior.
Really, how are you demonstrating/documenting proper judgement of your staff when it comes to this enforcement. I think is of the most importance to have video and data backing up any instance prior to dropping the proverbial “hammer” with a focus on video (10 seconds of video can easily illustrate questionable behavior different from someone simply standing while their pets kill). Police cams are a great idea and have demonstrated time and time again proper enforcement for the same reasons.
One more point that game security just brought up:
While your pet is auto-attacking your avatar should be in NO WAY attacking or casting any skill.
This is a poorly worded statement best case scenario. If this was a law to be enforced every person using a pet class would be in proverbial jail regardless of their activity status; unless their avatar was literally doing nothing. Say you are actively fighting and something attacks you, your pet AUTO ATTACKS as intended = JAIL.
That is what I have to say about these statements. Please continue to work with us and communicate. Don’t take my examination poorly. What I want is more of this type of honest communication.
Strongly consider my 10 seconds of video comment. When things are as unclear as they are now a lot of people are bound to suffer without just cause, specially when you are not even communicating infractions and dealing punishment.
Finally provide clear examples ie:
If player x stands where mobs spawn without auto casting (including ctrl + right click) anything. He will be safe even if his pets retaliate and loot is acquired.
If player x stands where mobs spawn with auto casting (including ctrl + right click). He will be punished.
ps. If you actually want to kill the practice, don’t go about doing something like what WoW did which was make pets no give credit as thats a very common situation for normal players. A simple solution would be to make auto loot stop working after 5 minutes without new input.
(edited by crisisavatar.9247)
This is not a proper clarification. If this was a court of law you would be losing the case. I am a victim of your in progress system and my case number is 2210650. I was given an “unlawful” 24 hours suspension.
TL;DR: If you’re AFK; your avatar should be idle.
I’ll further clarify.
You are in no way allowed to use a third party program or script to accomplish this part: “your pets are doing the killing and your mastery is doing the looting”.
If a GM moves you or speaks to you and you don’t respond – then you are partaking in unattended gameplay and may have your account warned/suspended/terminated (depends on how many violations the account had previously). Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted
Game Security GMs are trained to remove afk players that are interacting with the game, environment, or other players from the game. Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted
Game Support GMs are trained to handle such appeals while being acutely aware of why/how Game Security is handling accounts. Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted
1. Opening statement is potentially conflicting with what follows. Failed to describe the term " idle" for your purposes.
2. " You are in no way allowed to use a third party program or script to accomplish this part: ‘your pets are doing the killing and your mastery is doing the looting’ ".
Failed to address the conflict between this and what is mechanically possible ingame by ctrl + right click function(exception should be up for consideration on this) that does not require script or third party modification of any sort and players have been punished for.
Should go without saying how unfair that punishing is when given that ctrl + right click is a core function and you are arbitrarily determining when it becomes punishable; not something anyone should be able to guess or know without looking it up. IMPORTANT to note that you are not even communicating this ingame in a cease and desist format. You’re straight up suspending or worse without telling players about their infractions as it happened in my case. 2210650 again is my support ticket number in case you’re in the mood to see my data and how poorly I was treated.
3. “If a GM moves you or speaks to you and you don’t respond – then you are partaking in unattended gameplay and may have your account warned/suspended/terminated (depends on how many violations the account had previously). Pet Kills & Macro Looting Excepted”
Under what criteria are GMs allowed to move or try to have you respond ? I can recall one instance that I just arrived at a location and started a conversation with another person pet farming and in the middle of that conversation I was teleported; important to note that I wasn’t auto casting anything yet while this took place. Still the “drones” acted on me without any persecution or opportunity for me to defend myself against this harassing behavior.
Really, how are you demonstrating/documenting proper judgement of your staff when it comes to this enforcement. I think is of the most importance to have video and data backing up any instance prior to dropping the proverbial “hammer” with a focus on video (10 seconds of video can easily illustrate questionable behavior different from someone simply standing while their pets kill). Police cams are a great idea and have demonstrated time and time again proper enforcement for the same reasons.
One more point that game security just brought up:
While your pet is auto-attacking your avatar should be in NO WAY attacking or casting any skill.
This is a poorly worded statement best case scenario. If this was a law to be enforced every person using a pet class would be in proverbial jail regardless of their activity status; unless their avatar was literally doing nothing. Say you are actively fighting and something attacks you, your pet AUTO ATTACKS as intended = JAIL.
That is what I have to say about these statements. Please continue to work with us and communicate. Don’t take my examination poorly. What I want is more of this type of honest communication.
Strongly consider my 10 seconds of video comment. When things are as unclear as they are now a lot of people are bound to suffer without just cause, specially when you are not even communicating infractions and dealing punishment.
Finally provide clear examples ie:
If player x stands where mobs spawn without auto casting (including ctrl + right click) anything. He will be safe even if his pets retaliate and loot is acquired.
If player x stands where mobs spawn with auto casting (including ctrl + right click). He will be punished.
ps. If you actually want to kill the practice, don’t go about doing something like what WoW did which was make pets no give credit as thats a very common situation for normal players. A simple solution would be to make auto loot stop working after 5 minutes without new input.
(edited by crisisavatar.9247)
I spent over 80 bucks with the release of this expansion and feel that my paths to play have been sharply cut off. No I am not happy and I have done my part in this equation, pay so that you improve my experience and continue to develop.
I don’t care about your stupid need to create sinks and grind so that players don’t “complete” your game. All I care about is having options and people to play with in as many forms as possible. That has been SABOTAGED by your latest actions. Virtually everyone I have heard from is of the same opinion so the likelyhood of this sentiment to be wrong is not provable and it reflects ingame with the decrease of variety of play available that is clearly visible right now on lfg.
Get your kitten together kittens, I been playing since beta 3 years ago and I don’t have ascended gear, any considerable amount of gold, any crafting profession at 500, no riches at all, etc. I am a casual player that enjoys running around, experiencing content, just having fun in general. STOP HIDING YOUR CONTENT BEHIND GRIND, kitten YOU; YOU ARE LITERALLY MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO PLAY YOUR GAME BECAUSE MINDLESSLY REPEATING ANY ACTION IS NOT SOMETHING I WILL SUPPORT OR ENDURE. YOU HAVE MY MONEY, NOW STOP PUTTING YOUR CONTENT BEHIND ARTIFICIAL WALLS AND LET ME PLAY, THIS IS THE CONTRACT I SIGNED UP FOR. IF I AM SKILLED ENOUGH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLETE ANY CONTENT IF NOT THAT IS FINE, THE X FACTOR SHOULD BE MY ABILITY.
It feels great to be disrespected, ignored, frustrated, and without an advocate with so many people who have been supported by me on the grounds that a platform for me to play would exist without the typical artificial walls or grind that others hide their content behind.
If you are a player and support this share your thoughts or simply +1. I have no hope for any sort of advocacy from the people in charge and have extremely low expectations for this post but I feel betrayed and ignored and this are my real thoughts; sharing them is the least I can do to not have my silence be mistaken for consent.
You have lost nothing, if you want to do new pay for the development of those new things so that you may use them. You’ve gotten far more than your 10-60 bucks worth of content as it is.
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How the hell did you people get to page two and don’t mention it, the thing is coming out next month..
I love the hardcore music for the horrible build lol.
In the spirit of not just dropping hilarious words I’ll share this tip: focus (offhand).