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how to not be a bad ranger at pvp/wvw

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just like the title says any tips guys ? thank you

Follow numbered order, that easy.

1: Learn to kite
2: Learn conditional timers(bleed, poison)
3: use your cooldowns situational
4: Try to keep a meat shield between you and your opponent(mostly when caping nodes, this way they focus on the meaty and leave you alone)
5: LEARN YOU WILL NOT WIN EVERY ENGAGEMENT,

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kitten longbow users.

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So i have noticed a huge amount of longbow users in PvP and WvW who either don’t read their skill tooltips or haven’t got a clue on how to weapon swap. It’s pretty comical, fighting a bunch of rangers who are determined to use their longbow in melee whilst im smashing their face in with my warrior hammer. It’s as if they have gone, “i am playing a ranger and therefore i shall use my longbow in every situation”

Dear rangers who do this, even though you’re a ranger, you do have access to melee weapons, i know this might be a surprise to you but it’s better than trying to auto attack people with your longbow in melee range.

I dominate all longbow users by simply doing one thing. PLAY SHORTBOW BLEEDER BUILD. Never have to worry about a lb again.

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I suggest power hunter with read the wind trait, it’s quite strong.

Yes its powerful however your attack speed is very slow and can only be speed up wigh quickening zepher. My opinion not worth it, but play how you want to, this is just my opinion.

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I find sb bleeder to be very fun, and very powerful, when you learn the rotations and the timings.

"Bearbow is the meta"

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Enter Rata Sum to troll TP for free golds, see:

John: ranger is pretty pet-reliant so the best thing to do is get a bear and use it to tank while you dps with a bow from a distance
Mike: oh cool i’ll try it out, where do i cap bear

So I figure I should chime in before the poor newb actually ends up trying to run bearbow and I get:

John: dude wtf i am giving legit advice
Sam: man i dunno but my friend runs bearbow and he seems to do just fine
Phil: yeah lol i leveled my ranger all the way to 15 using bear + bow, havent had any problems yet
Tom: dude they’re ’range"rs, youre supposed to use a bow
Dave: lol literally every ranger in my guild runs bearbow, but im sure this random dude in map chat knows better than the meta

So there you have it, bearbow is the meta. Why haven’t you respecced yet?

Ill destroy any Bearbow. Bearbow is for useless morons who cant memorize timings, or who fail at moving

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Here, I will lay it all out for you

pve(non dps): Bear-Why because they get super health boost
pve(dps): Jungle stalker-For might OR Lynx for their(i think its two) bleeds that stack along with your bleed. THIS WILL PUT YOUR BLEED UP THERE BY ALOT

for pvp there are two choices
1: Jungle Stalker(when you are pvping with a group, basically for might)
2: Lynx(when you are roaming, just like pvp the lynx has two or three bleeds that also stack on top of your bleeds, VERY NICE DAMAGE

there ya go

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This is coming from a ranger, so you know. The pet actually isn’t utilized for max dps, it is put into play to do three things. 1: Keep your opponent in a movement state(so they cannot lock down a position, and hit you with the big stuff)2: To soak up the opponents cc(so they can get away from pet and get to you).3: To basically add that little bit of finish him damage(that extra condition, which is the nail in their coffin).

Now that I got that out of the way i will give you my(this is my own preference, so no trolling)impression. I am bleeder sb level 80 atm. I do very very good damage in both pve as well as pvp. so if you want my answer here it is: best single target range dps falls like this

1: Mage
2: Ranger
3: Hambow warrior

everything else below this isnt important

Again this is my personal preference, im sure someone will come and try to troll it up but hope this helps ya.

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You acquired 15 deaths on Skyhammer, I’m sorry to say this but you really need to work on your strategy, teamwork and map control. I would have to say that the most I have ever died on this map was about three times. You could say that my map presence is very good, my team utilization is very good and well im a ranger so I just kitten most people off with my conditions(especially warriors). That aside, take some time to learn the map, learn the little jump pads, learn the little cubby holes near point A and C, were you can basically not stick out while you are trying to cap.

That or from what you put you do not understand when to go balls deep or when to retreat. Here I will point it out for you, since im in a very generous mood tonight. It all depends on the class of your opponent, your class, etc. Read below for my quick breakdown.

Again this is from a ranger standpoint so ya

Warrior: It is CRUCIAL that you keep your range to max, do not let them get to you in any form otherwise you lose, period the end. To sum this up bleed them as fast as you can and they will eventually fall over before they get to you.
Guardian: Follow the same strategy as the warrior however keeping up that range isn’t as important as when fighting a warrior. IF POSSIBLE have a melee toon keep the guardian busy while you just peg him down.
Necromancer: This is probably the easiest encounter you will ever have. There are a few things that you need to look out for. These are #1: If he is in either death shroud form or lich form, keep MAX distance(think of the warrior scenario again). These forms don’t last too long but if you are in range of these forms, its bad news for you. Now besides the forms just keep distance, use your pet to soak up their damage and basically bleed them out.
Engineer: This is a very interesting fight, it is never the same thing twice. If the engineer is a turret spec then basically use your pet to keep him busy while you burn his most important turrets(healing and net). Bomber spec, just keep your distance and use a tanker pet for the bombing duration, when it goes on cooldown switch to max dps pet. Any other engineer specs I have either not seen yet in pvp or are infantile to mention.
Mage: This is by far the most annoying fight you will ever be engaged in. Mages hit hard, move hard, play defense hard and are just all around a huge pain to deal with. Now i know most of you are saying yea yea mages are easy blah blah, but take my word for it, that is far from it. To beat a mage you need to understand their schools of magic. Fire(big damage), earth( big defense), Water(big heals), Air(i forgot what this one does). What i would recommend is DO NOT let them witch schools on you. Do whatever you have to do to prevent this. If you can do this(not many people can) than just burn the mage down.
Theif: HAHA this can either be the easiest thing ever or the worst nightmare ever. To shorten this part up, DO NOT LET THE THEIF GET BEHIND YOU, if you let them behind you, JUST QUIT AS YOUR DONE. If you can keep them from getting behind you, focus fire to the max, they die rather quickly
Ranger: This comes down to spec basically. These fights usually take a very long time to complete because each ranger is doing basically the same thing. So take this one with a grain of salt.
and FINALLY THE WORST OF THE WORST
Mesmer: I have no info to put here but one thing. Watch the animations of all the clones and when you find the one that is actually casting you get him. Another trick is to tab target each one, when you find the one with signets on you have found the real one. Besides that I normally just hit the road and let them believe that they won the fight. I just come back with a warrior or thief and watch them go down and laugh to myself.

So in closing let me say this

1: Learn your class mechanics
2: Learn the opposing class mechanics
3: Learn the spvp map mechanics
4: Learn to coordinate with your team(i know this is very stupid, as most players dont understand anything, so yes i know your pain)
5: Learn the timings or the behaviors of a specific map(example: skyhammer- you know the first thing your opponent will do is to go for point B so they can also jump down and utilize the cannon facility)— so stop that

and lastly I know this is alot but just have fun do what you wan to do. I just wrote this to teach you somethings, i hope it helped.

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Seriously now enough is enough

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I totally feel your pain Ceol! Here is an example of the stupidity that is running rampant in pvp atm. I was placed into Skyhammer, this is all great and lovely, so im like lets do this. My first reaction is to head to the skyhammer gun station to get control of the gun, as well all know the gun is super overpowered. I asked a theif to assist me in the protection of the room, he was like ok no problem. Now at this time I am on the gun and i can’t see my surroundings because duh im on the gun lol. I get off the gun to swap out with the thief so he can get a turn and i would protect him. I get off the gun and no one is in the room with me(im wide open). I figure ok all good, thus I head out to the battlefield. I get outside the gun room and what do i see my entire team fighting one mesmer on point B. Yes my entire team, no one defending points, no one capturing points, etc. It was very sad thing as we basically lost a minute or so later. I mean come on the entire team for one lone mesmer. I mean it was a great play by the blue team as they used the mesmer as bait to lure the entire team away from the other two points and the skyhammer gun. Anyways this is what im talkin about people think this is World of Warcraft were kill farming wins the game. Its just sickening, maybe this weekend I will run into some players who actually have a level of intelligence to demonstrate.

Seriously now enough is enough

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Welcome in pvp, where glorypoints are everything, but tactic, teamwork and intelligent gameplay means nothing, as long as they can run in their little zergs and think they are great.

This is so true it hurts

Seriously now enough is enough

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Five games in a row I have seen the same thing. No one(besides me) focusing on objective points. No one(besides me) defending our central point, no one rezing a downed ally as they run by(besides me), so that the downed player can get back into the fight faster, than having to wait on the respawn timer. I mean I have made a post about this before and again i will say this. I do not claim to be super man in pvp, i am probably not even good however I understand the mechanics of both the map as well as my class. So seriously it isn’t that hard to tell yourself " Hey im new to pvp let me check a quick guide" it will take you five minutes. By doing this you will do two things! One you will save yourself the embarrassment of being stomped hard and two you will actually contribute to your team and lead them to a possible win.

That is my plea troll me if you want I don’t care but this thread had to go up to regain its momentum.

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A very quick question for our ranger guru's

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Thank you TomoHawkx for your input. As I am currently level 63 and just purchased the entire cultural T2 armor set as well as the T2 shortbow. I just looked this gear over and it comes preloaded with power, but I can deal with that.

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Currently running SB(condition) and need some clarification on what stat(s) should I be stacking for maximum pvp damage. I am currently focusing on and I will put it in numerical order to emphasize from greatest to least. 1: Precision 2: Condition Damage3: Ferocity.

Now my question is this am I stacking the correct stats for a condition build and if not please tell me. Also does power play a factor in say bleed damage etc.

Thanks for your help
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Sigh I am getting fed up with it

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@Shaogin To inform you I tried multiple times in multiple games to coordinate the team.

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I am getting very irritated as of late with the players in pvp, especially those that are on my team. I mean I do not claim to be super good, im probably not even good however I understand the mechanics of all the pvp maps. Here is an example of what I am complaining about. Just got done with Spirit Watch(the one were u run the orb to your spots). Instead of sending a person to two of the three objective points and leaving me behind to run the orb to which ever one is closest. They all decide lets fight in mid and lock down no zones. So in just a few min the other team basically rofl slapped us into oblivion to win the game(They ran orbs lol). So seriously if you are new to pvp go read a guide and stop embarrassing yourself as well as other players.

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Thank you Rallad

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I am going to put it(so all you mesmer’s get your flame throwers ready). As a ranger(precision/con damage) how in the world do you even attempt to fight a mesmer. Is their some little detail that allows you to discover the real one. As i just got done with spvp and it took me and two other people and yet the mesmer toasted us all. Well I wont call it being op maybe I just need to work on my strategy vs mesmers but still reflecting back to my question. Please give me a direct answer, this means I do not want to hear flames, given mathematical calculations, etc.

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some feedback on courtyard so far

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Very solid map, quite fun to play however as a ranger I have one complaint about it. ITS TOO kitten SMALL.

what class should I play? (long)

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Play a ranger, very fun and in pvp when you are kitting that necro or warrior hard it is funny to watch them bash on their keyboard in an effort to catch you.

Need help choosing alt

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Now this is my own opinion but you asked so I will deliver. You stated that you want to “make a toon with damage and mobility”, then I shall point in to the ranger side of town. Now do not listen to what most people say about the ranger. If you can learn two things and get them down solid you will excel at ranger. These two things are you MUST LEARN TO KITE PERIOD, there is no way around it. The last thing is dependent on if you go lb or sb you may have to memorize timings(for sb with its conditional damage). Now other people will say " hey do you use a sword", well i personally do not as I am barely ever in melee range. Now I can’t say for pve but for pvp I do very good. I am using a variant of bearbow(without the bear) and in both pve and pvp i basically dominate. well that is my input and oh one last thing, your a click then take my advice and drop $100 bucks on a naga razer, you will never click again lol.

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Well I have spent just about 30 minutes with Bearbow and as granted I am only learning the rotation on Blue Moa’s out in BloodTide Shore but so far this is what I have noticed. SB shoots alot faster, from my timer about 2.5 seconds, so I would anticipate in end-game PVE content that 2.5 seconds plays a crucial role. Another aspect that I am noticing is the lack their of for conditional applications which makes it a bit longer to kill. Those SO FAR are the only negatives that I have encountered. As for positives I have to say that even though I just began with LB the damage is a bit higher than SB(Although again SB shoots faster.. *cry) and another thing that I am noticing is that well ill just put the rotational order below this and well give your feedback.

F1(attack bear), Rapid shot(for the vulnerability stacks) * I JUST SKIP LONG RANGE SHOT ALL AROUND as it just don’t seem to serve any purpose. At this point bear is on the mob tanking like a boss(yay). Next I pop the stealthy shot thing just for the boon that it applies. Then the mob dies and i begin again. Now again I am going to try it in pvp but I have to respec totally(thank god its free) because I am totally geared towards conditional damage. In pvp I(only level 45) tend to get alot of kills because of two reasons. 1: I kite and I kite very hard(I spin circles around npcs, i dodge(ALOT and i rarely miss) I also whenever it is available use the quick concussion shot to the side of the players head, this allows me to use evasive shot to get a bit of range(For those kitten warriors) and also to get the nice speed booster(AGAIN TO RUN AWAY FROM WARRIORS). By this time the whole team has come to help the warrior who is qq’ing because he either A: Cannot hit me due to me absolutely abusing my evasive shot or b: Abusing the dodge system HARD.

I basically in pvp just annoy the player enough were he either A: Runs off due to frustration or B: Calls a warrior to TRY to chase me down and stomp me lol.

In pvp i get most of my kills because(YES IM A KSER SO DEAL WITH IT, IM LEVEL 45 IN 25 GEAR) I just again annoy the player until a big damage dealer like a warrior or a mage come into the situation then I just wait( I play smart). Once they drop to about 45 percent, (During this whole time bear, used to be spider for the weakening venom) is annoying them with stuns, paralyzes, etc) i basically unload on them apply conditions, run in drop spike trap, evasive shot backwards for the speed buff. then stun etc etc.

So this is my so called pvp strategy but it is again SB but I will again try LB and see what happens. Thanks again Fluff.

This is all in SB though so yea I am going to see how LB works in pvp, I probably will not use it long and go back to SB

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Alright, thanks for the input Fluffball.

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I am looking for weapon sigils on the BlTC, anyone care to point me in the right direction.

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Please do not mind the line(get out of dodge maneuver(such kitten has evasive shot) the edit feature for the forums isn’t allowing me to fix the misplace word. So just wanted inform.

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I am tossing around the idea of trying out Bearbow. I am currently a SB(condition mostly) and I will admit I absolutely love the mobility that SB provides. Before anyone flames me let me say that granted with the new implementations to the talent trees and such I don’t do the damage that I am used to but I can still basically run pve content non stop with basically no downtime whatsoever. Also in pve content I am capable of from my test run this morning, of fighting between3-4 mobs that are between-4-6 levels higher than me. I can also do this when you through a elite or champion in the mix(I forgot what they are called) and again I have very little problem. So I rambled a bit I do apologize, my question is does Bearbow utilize a get out of dodge maneuver(such kitten has evasive shot which is good not only because it launches you backwards but more because it give you that speed boost-WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY LOVELY). If not then does it incorporate stuns or things like that to make up for the lacking of that get out of dodge maneuver? Well that is my question, the post got a bit long I do apologize.

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Yes, it is as i stated in my above posting(s) with Razor. I have the art of kitting down to literally a science(not to bolster). I am not looking for elite status, I was just curious if there was any mechanics that are in place currently that could have boosted my damage any further. As I am a leveling toon currently and the gear does get swapped out on a consistent basis. The ranger community will shun me probably after they read the last line of this final post on this thread, as I do not want to continue this thread for hours, days, months, years, etc. The final line shall read like this, my ranger is going into retirement as I have discovered a character class that is more annoying, more capable of being utilized(gonna catch a flame but oh well) and overall a bit funner than the ranger. I will always love the ranger class as it was my entry level class which broke me into Guild Wars 2 and it was the class that taught me probably the most important thing that carries over into any mmo and that is unless you are a heavy armored class you must learn kiting, there is no way around this, as if you can’t do this or you choose not to then you are limited to the heavy armor classes. So in closing thank you ranger class for all the knowledge that you have passed onto me. Also thank you ranger community for helping me to understand the class mechanics just a bit more than I do now. Onward to my new favorite class, hello Mesmer.

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OK you have been a great help, you take care now.

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One last question that you didn’t address. Will they make poison like bleed condition were it stacks numerous times, or will it forever stay at once predominant stack.

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Directed to Razor this will be for at the moment pve content. Lastly I am only level 42 with an effective level of 40. So is this gear accessible at my level or will it be something I acquire at max level.

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First off let me just say that I truly missed this game and I am happy that I made the decision to return, now onward to my question(s).

1: The condition bleed stacks numerous times will they ever allow poison to stack like bleed does. Is their a talent spec line that can allow this to happen

2: I want maximum condition damage, I am currently Skirmisher/Wilderness survival and it is awesome. With the art of kiting and utilizing the skills(i don’t remember their names) were you shoot an arrow and jump backwards and the stun that you can do when you are shooting to the enemies side alongside my spider which uses the weakness venom and the immobilizing web I can combat mobs that are between4-8 levels higher than me and I can also fight between3-7 of them at one time.

So i am rambling and I am sorry. These are my two questions please feel free to answer them for me. Lastly Please do not try to tell me ranger is garbage, or ranger is overpowered or anything like that because I will just ignore you. Just give me a simplistic answer to the two questions that I have asked.

Thank you

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oh i forgot my pet is a drake(giant lizard)

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I am currently a level 15 beast mastery ranger who uses a long bow. My concern is no matter what the enemy is my pet takes so much damage and dies in like 8-9 shots. This happens quite often. so what am i doing wrong. Any advice would be greatly appreciated .