Guild Wars 2

There are some people talked about the GW2: HoT is GW2: Core. Is it true?
But there is no comment from Forum Moderator of ArenaNet.
If this is true, it make more sense to me about the reasons why the purchase website of GW2: Core is disappeared and why ArenaNet want to give new player the GW2: Core for free.
But the ArenaNet announced Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns is expansion includes Guild Wars 2 core game.
Is it possible to release some information about this?

Have a good day.

webtoehobbit.4201:

Spent all day yesterday making this up, to compare what we received content wise from ArenaNet in the past with their other expansions to what has been officially announced so far with Heart of Thorns.

I will continue to update this as more info is revealed with Heart of Thorns, but here is what we have so far, enjoy!

Edit: This comparison is based off of features that were DAY 1 features and not added at a later date.

+1 for put all this detail together…

Spurnshadow.3678:

It isn’t. If a player with no version of GW2 buys it, they get the whole game. That’s not an expansion. It also costs the same to existing players as players who don’t own the game. That’s not an expansion.

ArenaNet define HoT as the GW2 expansion pack. Please see the pre-purchase page:
http://buy.guildwars2.com/store/gw2/en_US/html/pbPage.heartofthorns?_ga=1.16880561.907650097.1433487203&cid=90:5::::Global:40:::
Not the customers……
I copy and paste it here: Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns expansion(includes Guild Wars 2 core game)

Tironas.7053:

HoT is labeled an expansion but that is an outright lie.

HoT is now the core game. Any information telling you otherwise is marketing.

If it were REALLY an expansion then I would be able to buy just the expansion. However since the option to buy regular gw2 disappeared from your official store it’s very clear to me how you mean to play this.

New players getting a gift? That’s great!
So what does a loyal customer receive because they can’t claim this free gift? Nothing!

Thanks! I feel so satisfied as a long time customer!

There are numerous and legitimate reasons as to why other people are angry and those should be kept to those topics.

Here I am only talking about the fact that officially vanilla gw2 does not exist anymore according to Anet. This disregards the fact that physical copies are still circulating and ripping less savvy customers off.

I’m just disappointed because I’ve now lost trust in a company that I loved.

Hope this is not true. The Anet should describe it clearly. Will I lose my current benefit or be forced to upgrade when GW2:HoT is released? Under the concept of GW2:HoT=GW2:core, I can easily understand the reason why ArenaNet give GW2:core for free.

AWACS.6537:

INB4 ‘yer entitled, staph complainering you whippersnapper spoiled rat.’

Anyways, on topic, it wouldn’t cost them anything if they gave SOMETHING to the veteran players, I mean, the only things veteran players really want are some digital ‘upgrades’ like a character slot so they don’t have to shell out more money, especially after not being able to use the ‘free’ Guild Wars 2 Core Game. If veteran players are greedy, then anet must be far worse.

+1

Sylent.3165:

Before this gets merged you all need to realize the expansion the actual expansion is $50. Yes if your a brand new player you get base game to. Even if anet removed the free base game for new players it would still be $50. Please understand the ONLY thing anet did was be generous to new players which will also get new players in the game for us. This is good for everyone in every way. If you just bought the game 4 days ago or whatever so what, you have months to play before it comes out, go have fun with this game instead of complaining.

From a player who finally makes sense.

I believe we will have tons of new players if GW2 core become Free to play.

briggah.7910:

The toy2 you bought 3 years ago kept changing and you actually never paid for the toy2 to change. It did it on its own for free and actually became toy3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0. The new players are getting toy0 and missed out on toy2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 yet you’ve had plenty of new toys to play with over those 3 years. For Free.

Thanks for read the story. I did have good time to play some free contents in these three years. Unfortunately, no players can replay these Living World season1’s contents because these story already become history. The Living World season2’s contents are not free for all Veterans because Anet give these stories for the players played at that time for free. You can treat these as the rewards to be a no-AFK players. Please stop to say the Veterans players got these contents in hands and all free. The only thing Veterans got is the good memories and those achievement points because ArenaNet took those contents back.
Another point is ArenaNet used no subscription fee and free living story contents to attract players to play GW2. It can’t treat this business strategy as Veterans’ benefit after 3 years.
At least , ArenaNet should give serial number of GW2 core back to Veteran players who paid $50 for GW2:HoT + GW2 core. All customers pay $50 for a product which has two items inside. ArneaNet can’t take GW2 core back because customers had it before.

GranspearZX.5624:

This ‘new players vs. old players’ happens in every gaming community, without fail. It never over the exact same issue but it boils down to the same dynamics:

New players want to start on ‘even footing’, older players feel like they’re ‘paid their dues’. Lost in all this shuffle is a point that absolutely no one is bringing up—there is no release date. None. So no one knows what their $50 is actually buying… but that obscured overall picture is much, much clearer for players who don’t have an account already.

I do believe ArenaNet’s quality and try to make top MMO game in this industry. But I don’t like the way ArenaNet ignore that Veterans still have right to handle the GW2 core by their own will when Verterans bought this product which included GW2 core.

I bought a Toy2 3 years ago, I really loved to play this toy day and night. Before yesterday, the seller will release the expansion toy(Toy2E) and wish I can have more different experience than before when I play Toy2 with Toy2E. I was so excited. Yesterday, the seller announced the new customers can have Toy2E for $50 and also have Toy2 for Free. The most exciting thing is that new customers can bring Toy2 home right now after you pay $50 for the Toy2E. But seller told me that I already have Toy2 in their database, I just pay $50, go home, and keep play my old Toy2 until Toy2E is released. Ya! What a nice thought! Some friends heard this story and try to comfort me that you have played this for 3 years. Stop being greedy… For a customer, I pay $50 and go home only with a receipt today. But new players go home with a reciept AND a Toy2. Does it sound right?
All customers should have an equal right of deal with the items they bought. Today, ArenaNet provide a product inclueded GW2:HoT and GW2 core. Although GW2 core is free, any customers still have right to handle the GW2 core by their own will. You can’ t take this right away from the players who owned GW2 core. Many players already gave you some suggestions to smooth away the anger. Hope you can reconsider our suggestions instead of ignore us. We are not greedy. For me, I hope ArenaNet can sell GW2:HoT without GW2 core for lower price. I don’t believe GW2 is $0 in the market because GW1 Trilogy costs $29.99 . If ArenaNet really think the GW2 core is $0, I can buy the GW2:HoT for $50. But can ArenaNet release the GW2 core as an Free-to-play MMO game in the market from today? In that case, ArenaNet still can have more new players.

Huggywuggles.2814:

Daily rewards. PvP rewards. All of these things should also be considered as “loyalty rewards”. Why? Think about Tomes of Knowledge for a second. Many long term players who’ve been saving them/hoarding them are going to be able to put newly created characters DIRECTLY into the (pardon the pun) heart of the action. Want to level those professions? You’ll have access to crafting materials galore..not necessarily from farming them but simply from logging in each and every day.

You, as a long term player, have already been rewarded for your loyalty. You just took it for granted.

You can’t count those as “Loyalty Rewards”. Players spent time to received those rewards. Those rewards should count as “Thank you for playing GW2 today.”, “Thank you for playing PvP today.”

Batelle.1680:

Veteran players have gotten almost three years of game time and free updates that new players will never have/experience (unless they pay for the Living Story stuff). If you think all that is worthless, then I’m not sure why you care about HoT in the first place.

If Verteran players missed the time period to unlock the Living Story 2, they still need to pay for it.

I am not a hard-core player and didn’t spend a lot of real money to buy gems but I spent times to play GW2 and enjoy the story of the GW2 since GW2 launched. When I saw the word “Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns expansion (includes Guild Wars 2 core game)”, I hesitated to buy HoT because I start to think when the next expansion pack will be released. Maybe I can wait for a year or two, pay only $50 to get GW2 core+GW2: HoT+GW2: next expansion+ GW2: next next expansion+…, then get the same game contents as the old players in the future as long as the GW2 is live. Today, ArenaNet give the new players the same game contents as old players and only pay $50. But old players need to pay money+time(at most 3 years)+$50 to get whole game contents. The money and time that old players spent in past 3 years look like not important to ArenaNet. Comparing with expansion packs of GW1, there is no treat for the new players. All the players get the same thing with the same price. In GW2:HoT pre-purchase event, new player can get GW2 core for free. What do the old players get this time?

In this pre-purchase event, new players get FREE GW2 core but old players get nothing.
Is it some kind of punishment for the players have GW2 core no matter how long they have this game?

I love to this living story and I almost got all the achievements. I spent three days and tried to finish this achievement but I still have two maps unfinished. I want to get this achievement but didn’t have time to check the map ever hour. Could you please add a Checklist in the Invasion Canceler panel and release a map schedule for this achievement? I can use this list to know which maps I didn’t finish. Save time to get the achievement based on the map schedule. Please consider it.

I expected the guild wars 2 can add Traditional Chinese text language support into US and EU servers. It is good for people who want to play Guild Wars 2 but only know the Traditional Chinese. I don’t want to “switch” to the “Chinese version” because I already played this game for a year included BETA and I want to keep my characters in the US server. If you will add the Traditional Chinese lanugage into your support language and need someone to work for you, please email me and I like to do it. Please consider it and I believed you will have new customers from the market of Traditional Chinese language.