Guild Wars 2

Zero Day.2594:

Dungeon/Fract/Group PvE, there really isn’t any condition builds worth while. They “work”, but so does everything, just not so well (especially compared to zerker).

The few biggest issues that are posed to condition builds are:

• How conditions stack on top of each other, between different players. (You set him on fire, for a few seconds, deal damage, then I set him on fire… now you’re not doing damage… but I am and the duration has been extended too! That’s not just for burning…)
• Maximum condition stacks, this is also shared between players. (+100 players putting conditions on a boss, great! Max 25 stacks of bleed! – effectivness of +100 players is the same as that of a 25 players- this is just a dumb example)
• Defiance/Captains Shield stuff … which pretty much fully negates conditions.

Sorry to say but those things, make it very hard to see when condition in group PvE will be ever comparable to zerker builds. (Unless at one point +100 zerkers have the same effectiveness of 25 condition players (again the dumb example of 1 bleed per player…). But i think the balance scale would be a bit tipped off then and we would have another issue,)

Solo play, anything goes.

That makes sense I guess – but what bothers me tho is the question why make something that’s so ineffective for PvE compared to raw damage – it should be of some use right? ( keep in mind that I’m talking about PvE here ). Why not make DoT exclusive to PvP/WvW then where it actually works rather than confusing people with an inefficient alternative? I mean for exameple why make both Rampager and Assassin stats available in PvE when clearly Assassin stats are superior? – I mean I love the concept bleeds and poison on a thief but why would you use them if they suck so much? Sure it might be fun but in the end you still are gonna pick what’s more effective.

Thiefs like any rogue/assassin/spy ( you name it ) type of character in my opinion go well with something that doesn’t necessarily have to do with something that involves them doing their trade ( assassination, infiltration etc. all dark and shady stuff ) but rather with something that reminds you of their dark “nature” . With that in mind I named my thief Quentin Poe .
Edgar Allan Poe wrote some dark stuff – so that simply inspired me and thought it would be a cool name for a thief – hope that makes sense.

Tachii.3506:

Time to play a different class then. I honestly don’t see how you’ll get more fun for dealing less damage in PvE, lol.

It’s not really about exclusively dealing the highest possible damage what I’m looking for – just for something that’s more effective at something else at your regular gameplay – i.e playing as a healer warrior or guardian can be fun and effective even tho your damage is probably the lowest in your group – you still contribute to your group in some way and it still feels satisfying or more thief-wise venomshare builds for example combined with the residual venom + basilisk elite is a really strong combo since you basically provide a stun for everyone in your group that can go through a boss’ defiance stacks.

So like the title says I’m curious if there are any viable thief condition builds for PvE.
I’m bored as hell from generic zerker backstab or s/p-thrill of the crime builds so I wanted to try something new – but from personal experience nothing I tried seems as effective as a berserk build – I mean the few builds I tried were very situational – they work great against large groups of mobs and bosses that you can’t crit like the TA tree boss – but in some cases I feel like dead weight – i.e you can’t even apply conditions to Mai Trin in fractals unless she has 3 stacks or less of captains shield or when fighting something underwater. So far from googleing most people seem to be using set ups similar to this one http://tinyurl.com/qf7gk9v – ( this is just something i came up with as an example based on what I’ve seen so don’t freak out.. ) – but these type of builds seem mostly PvP/WvW oriented. So um yeah I know the so called “metagame” is based around stack&zerk or gtfo but that’s just simply boring and stupid imo and I just wanted to see if anyone actually plays something condition based that actually works for PvE rather that pressing gs nr.2 for big numbers..

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