Guild Wars 2

Chuo.4238:

Well, I read the AMA text.

TL:DR – ArenaNet is going to do what it wants with Ascended gear, no matter what anyone says, and they won’t grow a spine and actually stick to any principles. They’re wishy-washy, difficult to pin down, and don’t appear to have a clue.

I’m done here. Goodbye ArenaNet and GW2. I waited patiently for this AMA in the (vain) hope you’d realize that the game you sold me and the game you have now are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I’m sick at heart that I was actually stupid enough to spend money in your gem store thinking that this was going to be a long-term game for me.

Boy, was I a sucker.

Enjoy your $40. It’s the last you’ll ever get from me, and hopefully many other people. You don’t deserve it.

Not that you will read this, or care. You’ll just ignore this thread until you think you can get away with locking and deleting it. You’ll give virtual “infractions” to anyone who speaks up against the about-face in principles that you just performed.

Point is, you don’t care any more about your game. And your target audience is clearly not your original Guild Wars fan base.

Yes, I’m angry and disappointed and frustrated. I’ve wasted money and time on yet another RIFT/Aion/SWTOR type crap game.

The Spirit of Guild Wars died on 15 November 2012. RIP

Edit: Added an afterthought.

Second this post.

I was holding off for the AMA and it was exactly as i had expected, sufficient to say GOOD BYE.

As for Anet you will no-longer get any more funds from me ever again. I applied for a refund and was refused a refund on my game but told i could get refunded on all my gem purchases but they would PERMANENTLY BAN my account.

Well your idle threats mean nothing i have instructed them to do so id rather have some thing back than have egg on my face for believing the manifesto which was sold to the user base, when behind the scenes they knew it was just PR spin and totally untrue.

Good bye and i have the others staying enjoy it, and for those who tell people good riddance don’t forget the more people who leave the more you destroy your own community, although fan boys like that are to daft to understand that.

Perseus Ithikus.5483:

See this is looking more like a Jay Leno interview than anything substantive. By letting them see the questions this far in advance they will have a team of PR people working the answers and him over till they get company friendly results. Seriously there will be a bit of hand wringing and grimacing to play up to the fact the understand the players plight and show there sorry during the 1 or 2 semi tough questions you have picket but it will be a farce. Believe me I see interviews handled day in day out. You do not show your hand no matter how relaxed the chat.

I think LoreChief has now made his position clear
“A question for those of you who are so incredibly pissed off about recent changes though – why are you still playing and talking in the forums/subreddit if you’re so blighted with the game? Seek help.

A good Interview and journalism is Unbiased the above states quite the opposite.
Basically this Q&A is designed as another PR stunt for Anet we will not get any real answers.

Born.1745:

stop and ask yourself how much game play you need to get out of a $60 game before you feel that you got your money’s worth. Because the guy who said he has 500 hours into the game and feels cheated may be pushing the reality envelope hard enough for even the most jaded of you to giggle.

I bought a new TV for my bedroom, it cost $99 11 months later it broke, one of its functions no longer works.
Now the TV is not functioning as i initially desired, just like my copy of GW2 the function has fundamentally changed. have i got my $99 worth of entertainment from it in the 1000`s of hours i used it hell yes.

Even so i am going to return it and ask for a refund, will the shop tell me you have had my bang for buck so stop complaining, no its expected for me to return it no fuss. why should a game be any different, The TV has given me a cheaper $ per hour than this game so to your reckoning i should not complain at all.

With the latest patch the game fundamentally changed for may, so it not longer suits the purpose they bought it. they have a right to return it no matter how long they used it.

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

You’re wrong. If you prepurchased online, you can have your refund. Guaranteed 100%, try.

I Purchased this game online a month after release , have asked for a refund and now they claim my paypal invoice is the wrong number no matter how many times i send it.
100% not in my case looks like they need an excuse not to give one.

Luculus.9860:

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When I talk about the various topics in guild that are brought up on these boards, the responses are totally different.

Some recent examples:

Ascended armour: forums consensus = bad, a treadmill. Guild consensus = could be good, let’s wait and see, only a “must have” for deep Fractal adventures.

Event: forums consensus = laggy, unfair, skews the economy etc. Guild consensus = one of the best events in online gaming ever.

Fractals: forum consensus = elitist, gated, treadmill etc. Guild consensus = excellent fun, innovative and rewarding.

On my guild forums, negative posters just get ignored or asked to stop being so attention seeking.

So your using your guild forum as a measurement against the official forums, to try prove your argument. BUT you also prove that your guild forums are bias and skewed.

“ negative posters just get ignored or asked to stop being so attention seeking.”

Basically if any one has an issue they are told to be quiet???
Well your guild forum consensus is good because people are told to shut up if they say otherwise. Awesome talk about bias facts.

F- try again.

Sure may be i can get the " their is not treadmill one"

Kushkah.2935:

Vorch.2985:

Seriously, last week I held ANet on the same level as valve…idk wth happened. My only solace is that I KNOW that they listen and that if there is enough of an outcry, they have a history of making things right. If they don’t…idk.

I think the lack of a real response on the forums and the way the Q&A was handled says it all pretty clearly.. They’re not ignoring us entirely, they’re just ignoring anyone who disagrees with the decisions they’ve made based on the feedback they assumed we would’ve given, had they asked.

Personally, I haven’t wanted to login since the announcement and that probably won’t change since no vertical progression was the main reason I got the game in the first place. I’m going to give it maybe another week before I file for a refund, just in case, but really I’ve already given up and I’m going back to FPS’s, BF3 and Halo 4 for me this weekend.

Well said , this will be my last post on here.
After what Anet have done im personally finished with them now, this is the last Anet game will purchase and not one more $ from me any more will be spent in their cash shop.

Anet have now fallen quite firmly with the ranks of Fun-com.

Lies / depict and bad customer service drive people away.

tkalamba.2541:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

tkalamba.2541:

kistell.5684:

" So say you’ve completed a few fractal runs and have access to scale 3 difficulty, your group disbands, and you head back into Lion’s Arch to form a new group. If one of the group members is currently only at scale 1 difficulty, that will be what the rest of the group is set at until you complete more fractals to advance the difficulty scale higher "

So how can any one say players will not be locked out, this is not a gateing mechanic.

Say i take a break for a few months i come back all is see is

LFM FOTM lvl 13 only!

Talk about dividing your community.

People will hit a difficulty wall in an infinitely scaling dungeon. You will need to go back to lower difficulty runs, which will mean there will be a demand for low difficulty people.

Who are you kitten. In a grind, players go the most efficient way. They will do lower level difficulties with higher gear level players to farm faster. If you think they will just take “lowbies” with them, you might be very young in matters of MMOs…

Do you not understand how this dungeon works?

The difficulty will increase constantly, and is determined by the LOWEST common level of difficulty. 4/5 guys can be at level 15 difficulty, but 1 at level 2, the dungeon will then be at level 2. This means you will NEED lower level people for efficiency. You can’t just toggle the difficulty, its based on the a common level achieved. If you entire group is at level 15, the difficulty will be 15, and if you can’t progress, you have no choice but to take lower level people.

And what do you not understand it has already been said higher level difficulty drop better loot?

You think people are going to ignore that to run through a few minuets faster?

tkalamba.2541:

kistell.5684:

" So say you’ve completed a few fractal runs and have access to scale 3 difficulty, your group disbands, and you head back into Lion’s Arch to form a new group. If one of the group members is currently only at scale 1 difficulty, that will be what the rest of the group is set at until you complete more fractals to advance the difficulty scale higher "

So how can any one say players will not be locked out, this is not a gateing mechanic.

Say i take a break for a few months i come back all is see is

LFM FOTM lvl 13 only!

Talk about dividing your community.

People will hit a difficulty wall in an infinitely scaling dungeon. You will need to go back to lower difficulty runs, which will mean there will be a demand for low difficulty people.

Historicaly this is not so, higher levels drop better goods.

When people have been farming the lower level tires with poor drops their is no incentive to take lower levels they want to continue until they can complete it.

that’s like saying people are sick of the mobs in Orr so don’t worry they go back to low level areas to farm just not true.

" So say you’ve completed a few fractal runs and have access to scale 3 difficulty, your group disbands, and you head back into Lion’s Arch to form a new group. If one of the group members is currently only at scale 1 difficulty, that will be what the rest of the group is set at until you complete more fractals to advance the difficulty scale higher "

So how can any one say players will not be locked out, this is not a gateing mechanic.

Say i take a break for a few months i come back all is see is

LFM FOTM lvl 13 only!

Talk about dividing your community.

Conner.4702:

Shall we look at some history. Funcom created huge hype for Age of Conan. They than showed a very polished but very small part of the game and sold it asif the rest was like that. This is known as a lie. They have yet to recover from this as a lot of people didn’t pick up The Secret World due to being lied to and Funcom’s reputation being shot to hell.
This is your reputation on the line Anet. If you go through with this the same thing will happen here at least where a large portion of your current customerbase is concerned. Getting peoples trust back is the hardest thing for any company to achieve.

So I’d say continue at your own risk, but don’t come crying when it blows up in your face and all the gear grinders leave again. History also proves me right on that those types of people leave unless you keep feeding them more and more grind. Until you only have those types of people left.

Well said , i for one still refuse to by any Funcom Product.
Also add blizzard after Diablo 3, Anet is now verging on that point now too.

Just do 100% completion on every map before you leave.

You`ll level fast , have plenty of cash and Karma.
Also you will be well on your way to 100% map completion award.
GW2 is more about the content to 80 their is loads of it.

so how do you explain the need get ascended gear and after that you need to grind mats / recipes for infusion crystals to be made in the mystic forge.
just so you can survive the agony mechanic being put in the high end content.

“You’ll have to have some serious skills and solid tactics to make it through these Fractals. After a certain point, our new Ascended items and Infusions become crucial tools for survival. "

So no treadmill their oh sorry they reworded it slightly.

EverythingXen.1835:

crewthief.8649:

EverythingXen.1835:

crewthief.8649:

EverythingXen.1835:

Pochibella.8394:

EverythingXen.1835:

8% is not significant.

How about if your boss offered you an 8% raise? I, for one, would love it! You know why? 8% is not insignificant.

Nice job you have there. 8% more money wouldnt change a single facet of my everyday life.

An 8% increase in stats isnt going to make a significant difference in GW2 either.

Wait, what? Say you make $2000 a month (which is pretty low, but just follow me). You’re saying that close to a $150 raise wouldn’t make a difference to you? Man, i’m in the wrong business apparently.

My budget is of no consequence to this discussion. There’s a reason a non-sub game is an important factor for me. I provide for my family first.

I think you missed the point. It was an easy way to express the significance of 8%.

In real life. Can you give me an in game example?

The great barrier reef contains 8% of the the worlds fish species that’s a lot gone if it was nuked

The surface of the Planet earth humans only occupy 3% of it.

8% increase in stats is pretty significant even if it looks a small amount.

Baladir.2736:

lmfo. All this thread does is show that people dont’, can’t read.

After some point, it gets so hard that you need the new gear to offset how hard it gets. By that time, people would have gotton the drops they needed.

Pass me my glasses then , where does it state that " By that time, people would have gotton the drops they needed.", and we wont have to grind for precursors / mats to get infusion gems and even infusion recipes?

SORRY you don’t have good enough gear for our group now good bye.
Kicked from group*

" After a certain point, our new Ascended items and Infusions become crucial tools for survival. "

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/leah-rivera-on-the-new-fractals-of-the-mist-dungeon/

Being a casual player myself , sorry i disagree with what you said.
I have the time and the experience of being a hardcore player, but i got fed up with that game play.

That is why i play GW2 and no longer RIFT.

I play GW2 because of what Anet originally said it was going to be.

It was sold as a game where in your words
" A casual player can log in for fun every now and then and expects to be able to jump into end game content with their hardcore friends. "

" As an industry, we could all do a better job of teaching the player how to get to the point where these more complex systems are in the game. And then have more enjoyment by understanding what they are, rather than feeling like an outsider "

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/08/10/guild-wars-2-lead-producer-whiteside-believes-subscription-mmo-model-offers-huge-barrier-to-entry/

It seems that we as gamers don’t know what we want from an mmo and have to be taught by ANET what we really want.

Oh great can see it now….

(Visits mystic well to create infusion crystal)

#error 7089 The mystic well requires infusion core x 5

Please visit the on-line store to purchase your cores.

:)

KingClash.3186:

Woah.. This is the biggest crybaby thread for this game to date.
No one cares whatsoever if you leave the game so stop being attention w****s
Just be happy that something new is being introduced, that or just walk away; dont come to the forums and toss a mega hissy fit.
#Getoverit

Not very bright are you, Anet are using a business model build on micro transactions,
Losing players due to upsetting them is not good for business, look at other failed MMO`s due to upsetting their user base.

JSmooth.7654:

There are 138 pages of this… So, I don’t know if this link has been posted or not.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/A-message-from-our-Studio-Design-Director-Chris-Whiteside/first#post721451

Those of you who are worried about the stat increase should read this. I was very worried about it too. However, this response from Anet helped put me at ease.

Atryue
lvl 80 Guard on Anvil Rock

That`s on page 118 of this thread

All im going to say in response to that post , ANet are very close to becoming the same type of company in my eyes as Funcom (Conan) for their lies and Blizzard (D3),
While i certainly will not be spending any more money in their cash shop after what they are doing.

If this goes through I will certainly be the 3rd company i no longer trust and will not purchase from again.

MrLee.6892:

kistell.5684:

MrLee.6892:

NO BS, but I know of 10 people who quit GW2 because of being bored at 80 in the last 2-3 weeks. They have been watching info about The Lost Island patch and when they found out that there was going to be some kind of gear progression and a new dungeon, they will be coming back to check it out on the 15th.

So their wallets are going to open back up, just because of gear progression. And if they like it more will come.

That sounds awesome, so your friends who obviously raced through content got bored and decided they did not want to support the existing community or ANET any longer and jumped ship are coming back.

So how long will they stay this time a month or two then leave again.

Just the sort of community this game needs.

Hope ANET enjoys its new influx of temporary players as existing ones exit through the door.

Not a very viable business plan for Anet to attract fickle customers like that.

Raced thru the content? The game is almost 3 months old! 2 months is MORE than enough time to get to 80. Just because you are a casual player doesn’t mean everyone else is.
GW2 does not have a subscription so they can stop or play anytime they want, thats the point of a Buy2Play game.

The most major complaint about Guild Wars 2 is no endgame content. ArenaNet is adding something to help that. And again just because your are so casual and want nothing to do with it doesn’t give you the right to take it away from people who do!

Who says im a casual player? i currently have 3 lvl 80`s and two with 100% world completion.

Fact is i play for the fun of it not to flex my epeni.

so yes i have no issues getting the gear i need, but the fact is ANET are going against what they originally said.

If i wanted grind i would still be playing RIFT / WOW.

Logun.2349:

I don’t think people really see the ramifications or the genie in the box that’s getting unleashed here.

People aren’t in an uproar over 2 pieces of gear there in an up roar over the fact that this is their new progression matrix for endgame.

If you read what they’re saying it’s fairly obvious it they plan on making a full set of Ascended gear available that you will need so you can insert the required Infusions.
The point of the infusion is to mitigate a new damage type found in dungeons, or in other words there your ticket to participate in this content that gets locked away behind a price of admission. That price will either be a grind or cost of some sort.

This is going to be the new paradigm for the end game the part that scares me is this:
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“The new additions in November are just the start of our item progression initiative. We’re going to add tons of new high-level content to Guild Wars 2 in the future.”

“The first end game mechanic we will introduce is Agony, which will be encountered in the Fractals of the Mists dungeon, and is mitigated by Infusions.”

“As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.”
****************************************************************************
So basically this is the pass they’re giving themselves to go back on anything previously mentioned about the endgame being a cosmetic optional achievement. For each endgame dungeon condition type to complete the dungeon to its fullest you will need to grind up or pay for in some way (time or cash) a new set of gear or at the least the Infusions for it.

So what are the ramifications, the biggest one a division of end game players. The casual players will be the casualties hear as guilds fragment and harder core players leave there more casual buddies behind that are holding them back.

A gear fixated and centric player base that will see anything else in the game that does not advance their gear as fluff.

The best content in the game is now going to get locked behind a gear based entry fee, and with a finite set of resources this means development of open world content will suffer.

The best content ends up instanced and there’s nothing massively multi player about 5 people in a dungeon when we live in an age where every other console game connects you with 25 to 35 other players.

The strength of this game is the spontaneous groups that form up around their open world events but it feels like this is being abandoned for endgame.

Enjoy the new Hamster Wheel.

Well put, thanks

MrLee.6892:

NO BS, but I know of 10 people who quit GW2 because of being bored at 80 in the last 2-3 weeks. They have been watching info about The Lost Island patch and when they found out that there was going to be some kind of gear progression and a new dungeon, they will be coming back to check it out on the 15th.

So their wallets are going to open back up, just because of gear progression. And if they like it more will come.

That sounds awesome, so your friends who obviously raced through content got bored and decided they did not want to support the existing community or ANET any longer and jumped ship are coming back.

So how long will they stay this time a month or two then leave again.

Just the sort of community this game needs.

Hope ANET enjoys its new influx of temporary players as existing ones exit through the door.

Not a very viable business plan for Anet to attract fickle customers like that.

Naoko.7096:

Didn’t players read the clarification by the dev in the previous page that it’s to help in the game progression and not going to be a gear treadmill? Which means in every big updates, there’s going to be something that help in progression mechanic.
Their goal isn’t gear treadmill.

“We have always worked hard to create a sense of satisfying progression rather than gear grind and this new item progression initiative is no exception.”

So whats the difference between gear grind and Item progression?

Apart from the wording nothing, you still need to grind what ever mats you need for Infusion crystals in the mystic portal to take part in higher level content or your essentially locked out.

Future content new dungeons etc new damage mechanics like (agony) , more treadmill for infusions.

Infusion progression / gear grind = same thing (you still need to re-slot every piece of Armour or get new sets)

UnderdogSMO.9428:

kistell.5684:

UnderdogSMO.9428:

veritech.1048:

MrLee.6892:

shynu.7081:

MOVINGSHADOW.4632:

Arena Net are starting to wake up! Ascended Gear, well it’s a start I suppose.

Now give the addition of raids, progression and you will keep a large bored slice of your player base and bring those that have left, returning.

This game could be so much more! if you only cater for the more hardcore game types, I wanted GW2 to be my MMO of choice but due to lack of raids this game lacks.

Now before the torrent of casual tears starts, I ask you why are you so bothered? just don’t join in simple!!! Hey your casual, stats on gear, progression should not bother you in the slightest, not like you have the time or want to make the effort is it?

Fuller servers, more players and most importantly sales would increase as you open up to an alienated raid player base.

Go back to WoW.

Go back to Guild Wars 1

Many of us bought into this game on a design promise to not include gated gear progression, or gear grinds.

Now we’re being told that the entire time this was a lie.

Your immaturity aside, this is not the way to run a company. It’s very obvious that Nexon already has their greedy hands around NCSoft and Arenanet. This whole debacle is a slippery slope for loyal customers.

who say’s your going to be locked out of content do to this???

if players lock you out thats because there Dicks thats not the game’s falt player’s are Kittens.

You obviously don’t understand what is happening very well do you.

To play the new dungeons at higher lvls, it has been hinted at that new content to be released later will be included in this. The bosses will come with new mechanics the first being “agony”.

The only way you can survive the step up in " agony " damage is resistance via infusion crystals.

To use infusion crystals you need to get Ascended Gear , BUT in order to get resistances are Infusion crystals.
Gained by FARMING x amount of mats and using the Mystic forge.

AKA you are locked out of Higher tier dungeons until you grind better gear upgrades.

Now what we don’t know is how random will the mystic toilet be and will they sell some mats needed on the cash shop , also just how much grinding do they expect us to do before we can even attempt to do high lvl content.

Making this no different than other grind for your gear MMO`s

were dose it hint that we will need infusions in order to do anything other than this new endless dungeon stuff??

“As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.

high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content"

Celle.2716:

Booning.5476:

UnderdogSMO.9428:

gwawer.9805:

To the people who are saying “I didn’t buy this game to grind dungeons I just wanted to stroll about in the world and do my thing and enjoy dynamic events la la la”…

Are you actually doing that? Are you actually going back to zones and re-experiencing the events and the world? Or is this just an ideal that you wish you could do, but never actually could get yourself to do?

Maybe this is why Anet is being flexible now with their original philosophy, because they see that despite their own ideals of having players go out into the world and just “having fun” people simply don’t do that anymore.

People never Did. i mean hell look at the RPG’s of yeaster year they were FAR more “grindy” than this game.

even game’s like mario yes you never had gear you needed to progress but you still needed to gather your little extra live’s and beet each level one by one and if you died OMG you had to start all the way over from the begaining.

most gamer’s look for some form of progression in there game’s whether it be level to level ((to see the end)). Gear/stat upgrade’s.

I have no problem with Gear progression as long as it never becomes as steep as what we see in WOW

I just potter about having fun with the content. Never set foot in a dungeon ( instance with single group of players is not epic to me – it just feels small)

Looks like my money is no longer required by anet. No worries – will find something else to spend my spare cash on… Gin maybe?

When you don´t run dungeons, why would you want that kind of gear? oO It´s not required to play as usual.

Who do you care what some one else wants in their game and on their char?
Trolling is an art you fail at on so many lvls

UnderdogSMO.9428:

veritech.1048:

MrLee.6892:

shynu.7081:

MOVINGSHADOW.4632:

Arena Net are starting to wake up! Ascended Gear, well it’s a start I suppose.

Now give the addition of raids, progression and you will keep a large bored slice of your player base and bring those that have left, returning.

This game could be so much more! if you only cater for the more hardcore game types, I wanted GW2 to be my MMO of choice but due to lack of raids this game lacks.

Now before the torrent of casual tears starts, I ask you why are you so bothered? just don’t join in simple!!! Hey your casual, stats on gear, progression should not bother you in the slightest, not like you have the time or want to make the effort is it?

Fuller servers, more players and most importantly sales would increase as you open up to an alienated raid player base.

Go back to WoW.

Go back to Guild Wars 1

Many of us bought into this game on a design promise to not include gated gear progression, or gear grinds.

Now we’re being told that the entire time this was a lie.

Your immaturity aside, this is not the way to run a company. It’s very obvious that Nexon already has their greedy hands around NCSoft and Arenanet. This whole debacle is a slippery slope for loyal customers.

who say’s your going to be locked out of content do to this???

if players lock you out thats because there Dicks thats not the game’s falt player’s are Kittens.

You obviously don’t understand what is happening very well do you.

To play the new dungeons at higher lvls, it has been hinted at that new content to be released later will be included in this. The bosses will come with new mechanics the first being “agony”.

The only way you can survive the step up in " agony " damage is resistance via infusion crystals.

To use infusion crystals you need to get Ascended Gear , BUT in order to get resistances are Infusion crystals.
Gained by FARMING x amount of mats and using the Mystic forge.

AKA you are locked out of Higher tier dungeons until you grind better gear upgrades.

Now what we don’t know is how random will the mystic toilet be and will they sell some mats needed on the cash shop , also just how much grinding do they expect us to do before we can even attempt to do high lvl content.

Making this no different than other grind for your gear MMO`s

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Our goal is not to create a gear treadmill.

So does that mean that we don’t need to grind mats for the mystic portal in order to get Infusion crystals just so we can get enough resistance to survive “agony modes”.

Other wise players are actually locked out of higher content until we can grind the right gear.

That means grinding for Ascended gear for slots and then grinding x amount of mats for infusion crystals, if you don’t you cant play on higher difficulty.

Keeping players out of content just because of lack of gear makes GW2 no different than other MMO`s.

Draeka.5941:

And how is it affecting game mechanics beyond what exotics already do?

You don’t need resistance jewels on exotics like this " Infusions, a new type of upgrade component that can be acquired in the Mystic Forge. "

Preventing you from taking part in harder content just because you don’t have the gold or lucky enough to grind the insane amount of drops you require.

Asura build technology and ships.

Build me a race track in the ocean with power boats,
Let players race again each other and gather components for upgrades for their boats.

Add some thing other MMO`s Don’t have let us race each other in tourneys etc.

Not that hard to come up with new inventive mini type games.

What is really concerning me now is that when people do get their Ascended-Gear, and want to attempt harder content and in need of resistance.

They hit this brick wall " Infusions, a new type of upgrade component that can be acquired in the Mystic Forge. "

So is this going to be another lottery where we are faced with a grind and a chance to get the Infusion we need? when and only when i can actually get the list of mats i need.

Because so far my experience with the Mystic Forge has been a cross between gambling and massive grind.

I fail to see the challenge involved here.

Nar.8327:

Marketing Guy #1: The players all love the different gear skins!

Marketing Guy #2: Hey, I got a great idea. why don’t we add a new set with a slot for a resistance crystal

Marketing Guy #1: Yeah, so?

Marketing Guy #2: Well we add agony to the new dungeon and the only way to get resistance against it is by getting the crystal through the mystic forge.

Marketing Guy #1: And?

Marketing Guy #2: …we make one of the ingredients really hard to find.

Marketing Guy #1: Why would we do that?

Marketing Guy #2: .. we sell the ingredient on the online store too…..

Marketing Guy #1: …so they either buy it from the store or get really lucky with drops!

Marketing Guy #2: We’re so getting bonuses for this.

just edited it for you a bit

“The only way to mitigate Agony damage is by building up resistance through Infusions, a new type of upgrade component that can be acquired in the Mystic Forge.”

So seen as this passive gear is only obtainable through the Mystic Forge and able to be equipped to Ascended-Gear.

Am i to guess that the mats for these upgrades will require rare drops and / or ones sold on the TP/ On-line store?

So those who inevitably Dupe items / Buy gold or Sink funds into the online store will be the first ones enjoying the new content as they can quickly meet this gear check.

While the rest of us grind away , that does not equal difficulty.

Daisai.5879:

Funny how people seem to complain about a small stat increase on a armor slot.
So why would it make such a big difference between fulll exotic and some new ( small upgraded ) armor?
Apart from the 2nd upgrade slot which is probably needed to do something about new boss mechanics in dungeons.

Here is your answer so if you don’t have the right Ascended gear with resistance don’t expect a group invite.

" In the upcoming Fractals of the Mists dungeon, we’ll introduce a new monster condition called Agony.
This extremely dangerous condition ticks percentages of player health away and can’t be cleansed by normal means
Players who wish to delve deep into the Fractals will find that Agony makes progress increasingly difficult, until they reach the point where some defense against this condition is a must. The only way to mitigate Agony damage is by building up resistance through Infusions "

trapline.8541:

Let’s calm down a bit here and discuss this, are people really going to give up customized runes for a small state increase? All we’ve seen bundled in is magic find…

its not just about stats its about the separation of the community people wanted to get away from in other mmo`s ,
The elitism.

What we will see is people asking for full geared Ascend party players only or face kick from group.

Some people currently ask for exotics when grouping but its pretty easy to get groups any way, adding further tiers of dungeons exasperates this ten fold.

Players wont want to run old content , they will be obsessed with running only the most difficult runs in the new dungeons requiring full resistances.

So what does a new player do? they have a dilemma they need to get at least a set exotics to run the basic new dungeon (which many people are no longer doing) , but their are virtually no people running older content for them to get to that stage.

Every time you add a new set and dungeon based on sets , it makes it harder and harder for new players to join so they quit.

you start gateing your user base , separating casual players from hardcore.
Removing the level playing field not relying on actual player skill but all based around what gear you own.

The same also applies to very casual players whom get left behind , this is some thing ANET promised would not happen.

Zen.1740:

StormcrowX.9236:

I don’t know which is sadder, that some people fail to recognize a troll post or that some people are actually serious about this.

I dunno. Are you being sarcastic? It’s 2012, and this is supposed to be a “AAA” MMO. You’d have thought that a gear-inspect feature would be a given, and implemented in beta. Yet it’s gone 3 months without one, and now there’s even more reason to need one with this ‘hardcore’ gear tier.

Only terribad scrubs don’t want to be inspected, because they’ll be the ones running around in mystic forge blues and the first ones to complain about other people being bad when their groups wipe.

‘A function to stop people looking at my gear’? Really? That’s pathetic.

Did school finish early today or are the wow servers down for maintenance?

JCrimson.5921:

Tons of my friends will be coming back. My guild now has personal goals to progress together. We are all super excited to see what more is to come! Thank you very much for making this game better!

That sounds awesome, so your friends who obviously raced through content got bored and decided they did not want to support the existing community or ANET any longer and jumped ship are coming back.

Just the sort of community this game needs.

Hope ANET enjoys its new influx of temporary players as existing ones exit through the door.

Flynch.6034:

Surely LF1M ONLY full Ascended gear allowed ‘map grouping’ is exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, the same as LF1M ONLY full Exotic gear allowed anyway?

And if that is happening now, then what’s the beef with the new content?

Some people do ask for exotics but its pretty easy to get groups any way, adding further tiers of dungeons exasperates this ten fold.

Players wont want to run old content , they will be obsessed with running only the most difficult runs in the new dungeons.

So what does a new player do? they have a dilemma they need to get at least a set exotics to run the basic new dungeon (which many people are no longer doing) , but their are virtually no people running older content for them to get to that stage.

Every time you add a new set and dungeon based on sets , it makes it harder and harder for new players to join so they quit.

The same also applies to very casual players whom get left behind , this is some thing ANET promised would not happen.

Hycinthus.6483:

I think there was a survey done across the board for all MMOs forum users, I think the average is 2% of the community uses the forum. The 98% do not even know there is a forum.

And just how many people actually fill out Surveys? and how many people read forums but don’t post?

Sorry to say those number mean nothing at all.
Just like the OP`s Figures.

displacedTitan.6897:

I like the Ascended gear and I am one of the people who HATEs the treadmill. People already do that in Dungeons now Kistell when they look to see if you have exotics.

I think your missing the point and i take it you never played the likes of RIFT.

Some people do ask for exotics but its pretty easy to get groups any way, adding further tiers of dungeons exasperates this ten fold.

Players wont want to run old content , they will be obsessed with running only the most difficult runs in the new dungeons.

So what does a new player do? they have a dilemma they need to get at least a set exotics to run the basic new dungeon (which many people are no longer doing) , but their are virtually no people running older content for them to get to that stage.

Every time you add a new set and dungeon based on sets , it makes it harder and harder for new players to join so they quit.

The same also applies to very casual players whom get left behind , this is some thing ANET promised would not happen.

Probably because things like this cause a divide in the community as always.

What happens when new players join or very causal players for that matter, they don’t have much in the way of gear.

new player:- LFG new dungeon.

existing player invites them

new player :- hi guys.

Existing player:- you got your Ascended Gear?

New player:- Nope

( new player kicked)

New player Kittened off and has to spam for hours trying to get a group to actually get some Ascended Gear to get groups quicker.

Elitism is not an issue in GW2 currently and it is a good reason many play.

Stuff like this promotes it.

Seriously adding power creep will kitten me right off.

This is the first game i have been totally happy to create multiple alts, as they are easy enough to gear up and just swap when ever i feel like it.

so far i can play any one of my 3 lvl 80`s all different classes and mess around with looks and actually enjoy content with different classes.

Adding power creep removes any incentive to do this and causal players are generally stuck with a main char.

So do i have to grind what ever for X amount of months to gear my MAIN up, just to be told sorry we don’t want your alt in our party for this dungeon because it has not got Ascend gear.

Well stuff that.

LFM New Dungeon must have full Ascended Gear.

sigh

Wow Rocant sorry but people here were genuinely trying to help you,
I was actually going to reply to your post with some advice but seeing how your talk to people it does not surprise me you did not get a good response in game,
Asking for free money and then trolling people wont actually win you any awards.

Honestly your attitude beggars belief,
May be if you were a little more tolerant people would treat you better.

For your information Mezmers cannot attack you if they don’t have Los.
Mezmers on top the the gates have to hop up cast and move just like you do.

You can be hit by AOE cast on the wall your standing on , that may be your issue.

Ever thought they might also have gone invisible while they cast or you just have not seen them?

Charr Guardian.1497:

I know this will not answer your question, but why would you want to do farming?

I’ve done it before in another game. Never again. Ever.

Quite simply , as a Mezmer tagging mobs for loot in ORR DE`s etc is not very good compared to many other classes.

Players tend to stand on spawn points for mobs and they get nuked, mesmers are not good at sudden / instantaneous burst damage.

So a player like my self possibly the OP, who wants to craft our own exotic`s we need specific items that don’t drop easily.

Glob`s of ecto plasm are only gained from salvaging lvl 68-80 rare items at a chance.
Also gossamer is gained from salvaging high lvl white items , for myself any way their hard to come by.

So creating a farming char just for this purpose is a good way for me to create my own exotic items with the stats i want, tokens exotics you don’t choose your stats.

Mesmers are great for WvWvW , PvP, PvW but farming DE`s they dont cut it.
For me i have found a Guardian char actually makes farming competitive and fun to do.

Toble.2968:

I have all night. If you are trying to restore your pride, stop now. there are over 900 views on this thread and many of them have seen you tell my to get a better college education while using the word “may be” (maybe) my self (myself) and collage (college) in the particular sentence you tried to insult me in.

" many of them have seen you tell my (me) to get a better college "

;)

Ill leave you now with this " Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses. "

Finally you are actually trying to prove some thing but unfortunately you missed some important factors.

Multiple ticket submissions by the same person, tickets submitted by botters who are falsely claiming to be banned (a very high percentage), tickets cleared by staff per day, Automated clearance of tickets, Tickets not related in any way to banning?

With out factoring all this your maths are flawed.

Even if you figures could be proved far from it , how are the number of tickets submitted correlate to the number of innocent players?

Are you claiming if every single report was intrinsically investigated to a 99.9% chance of true verification that their would not be a big influx of tickets claiming to be false on and around the time of mass ban wave.

You see no matter how you put it you cannot claim they have failed or their antibotting system is flawed going on number of people complaining they are banned.

So you can post all the made up figures you like they will never prove any thing apart from the number of support tickets open , which in its self means zip , nada , nothing zero.

You cannot work a moving average out from just 1 or 2 day`s so……..

So show me proof of how you worked out your average for 2500 per day.

Provide me actual ticked numbers and sources ,
As to how was your moving average achieved?
How many days did you take in to account to come to this moving average of 2500 tickets per day.

You cannot and you know why your making numbers up, You have no credible evidence to support the daily average you claim.

No doubt you will avoid my question and point to some thread , giving no actual substance your claim.

So answer me the following 3 simple questions.

1. How was your moving average achieved?
2. How many days did you take in to account to come to this average of 2500 tickets per day?
3. Provide me an actual source including ticket listing , that can be used to show that an average of 2500 tickets per day are being submitted.