Guild Wars 2

“Thief is not OP in the way that most people complain about it. It is good at doing a certain job, but I it takes more skill and is more fun to play than a lot of other classes imo”
I like that, I’m content.

and hello kinsz, thanks for kicking my butt with s/d, thats all thats getting me through spvp atm. Hope our new DB→SoS are behaving.

sunnylane, im calling you out right now. That was the most thick comment I’ve read on the forums in a while. You literally named all the thief skills, said one was OP, and then called the class was OP.

I’m done with the thread, thanks for everyone with useful comments for helping me, and showing me why thief is OP. The answer: because everyone says so. Not because we die in a few hits, but because we kitten players off to no end. I will play a thief forever just to make people rage. MAGICMANH OUT. FIND ME ONLINE TO FLAME ME!

Ralkuth, thank you for showing me the best way to deal with these guys. I’ll focus more on poison as that’s what i’ve been lacking. Also checking out the youtube people asap.

@Dwaynas Avatar – So you’re saying a stock thief build will have all that on steal? I’d love to see a youtube video of you wrecking anyone with a full steal build, I’ve never even heard of something like that before. Seems pretty wreckless, and not that useful either.

@ Atse – I agree with you, i feel like some classes do the same damage with higher defense/sustain ability so no one runs thief EXCEPT in wvw where stealth is actually a very large part of why thief is OP (or skipping certain parts of fotm/dungeons)

@Leeto, I’m unfamiliar with the pvp rules of how people are overpowered actually. Because I’m such a noob actually I don’t undestand it at all haha. So I can’t kill anyone alone, but because I can get to a point quickly I am overpowered? I understand 2v1 fights should be in favor of the 2, but thats not even a guarantee win against some classes that can lock me down (stun lock usually) I also usually dont have much of an option when anyone of the mentioned class/builds before already have the point on lock and are just waiting for me to come. Also you’re saying, because thief is so OP, people make classes to consistently kill thieves, so it’s the thieves fault?.. I don’t mean to sound condescending that just doesn’t make any sense to me. At all. 0_o

So I’ve been reading way to many “nerf thief, thief op” etc. threads and I don’t see your points. Please link some builds about how a thief can counter any of the following, I would love to beat some unstoppable walls here. Youtube PVP videos of thief domination would be great too, please no videos about any of these classes standing in blind fields or just not moving (yes i’ve been linked those)
a) hambow warrior – Fire eats me for about 500-1k dmg/tick and I only have 12-15k health using valk or zerker amulet, also if I get stunned by ANY hammer move (what is that 3 stuns/knockdowns?) then I am perma stunned when he/she adds any other stun.)
b) turret engy – tracks in stealth and aoe bombs, you just dont have to aim to hit anyone let alone a thief who is trying to backstab you or evade sword spam you
c) bunker guard – I can literally stand behind guardians and continuously backstab and switch rotations but if he just stands there he can tank me for a good 10+ seconds doing no damage whatsoever but just healing himself. Once he does go offensive I bump my face against his line of warding a kitten ton (no stability, if you count daggerstorm then I don’t do nearly enough focus damage) and his symbols do continuous damage
d) well necros – I cant get close, but if i switch to SB it doesnt do enough damage, condi thieves if the best option, but even then one heal and usually all my conditions heal him.
e) Pu mesmers – I have issues with condi clears, using shadow’s embrace and a generosity sigil and sometimes the assassins signet and well, PU. You backstab him, you fail once and 3 condis + unveiled debuff for 3 seconds

I’m posting this asking for help, not to flame any class. I’ve tried almost all the builds, but just some of these seem pretty unstoppable, low hp + no stab/harder to clear condis + no stealthing if I want to cap points or decap them makes me feel like thief isn’t all that OP.

I am very new to sPvP, so apologies for any newbie questions about the class. So far I am just a hot join thief that can kill already low targets (stealth/blind/“OP” build) but I seem to have a lot of difficulty capping points and just dueling[spvp] in general. Would you agree that a dagger dagger ele (im not sure what armor but he/she can dish out 5k firegrabs) is the weakest spvp class and that I should not roll that class? (magic [spells] are always cool, so elementalist seemed fun, hence the name.)

My “standard trickery thief’s steal skill” does not do all those things. If I wanted to dump my entire trait line (and more, trickery does not give damage, that would be mug) into one skill with a 22.5 second cooldown, I would be one dumb thief, and I would have no counters to any opponents move. I think a requirement for all thief OP threads is a video demonstrating its full effectiveness in said field (here sPVP) and if your video isn’t you going against a motionless rank 1 player, than I (and I’m sure other players) will pay attention as to how no other class seems to have the ability to hit the thief.

Looking for legit sellers who dont use exploits so that I may get tokens for Dreamer. Any takers?
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