Guild Wars 2

So.. it was supposed that this match didn’t count towards rankings (well, it’s not fair that a 24h match counts as a 7 day match) but the reality is that it counted.

In Baruch Bay, we tried to do some events the expansion day to know all the maps, but we finished them earlier due the lack of enemies (I was commanding for a a good 5h and we didn’t found ANY fight, so it’s normal that we stoped that event there). The thing, is that today, one fellow of the server was looking through the Glicko points and saw that we lost 20k on that MU.

You can see here (the points are the same on the GW2 web) that we lost 20k on that MU.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/4

You can see that we finished week 42 with “1.791.149” and we started week 43 with “1.767.040”. That are exactly 24.109 lost. It may seem something that we shouldn’t care about, but actually we do, because the more you drop on the lader, less enemies you find. And now with the expansion + halloween is REALLY hard to find any enemy (actually, i haven’t been on any fight since the patch realased… so…).

Sorry if something is misspelled, as you can imagine i’m not english. Hope Anet gives a response to this.

Well, i don’t know if this is exactly a bug, but I think so..

As soon as i got to my acc after the realase of HoT, i realized that i had lost almost 4.000 achievements points. I had something around 14.500 AP, and after the patch, i’m at 11.000 AP.

Why did i lost that many points? Actually Ithought i shold get more points because of the WvW ones.

Sad that i didn’t took any screenshot the day before the realase…

Hope this gets fixed.

Anet doesn’t pay attention to WvW because WvW players doesn’t spend their money on gems. WvW players don’t spend money on gems because believe that Anet don’t deserve it for the work they do on our game mode. As simple as that.

Anet want to make money from an expansion? We, WvW players don’t need to get the expansion to have the new maps, so tbh (and after 3 years of playing -not every day ofc and with some breaks-, and some money spent on gems) i’ll pass on getting the expansion, they don’t deserve my money, unless they show me that i’m wrong and then i’ll get that expansion.

Well i’ve been asking this for a while to some server mates but i just recieved lots of diferents answers, so i’m going to post it here and let’s see if anyone is sure about it.

When will the event finish?

I’m a WvW player and i’d like to at least see the activities of this event, but of course, during the season I don’t want to do PvE, because I feel that I have to be on WvW helping my server, so i want to know if i’ll be able to see that content… (If anyone don’t know it, the season finish this friday).

Thanks!

phaeris.7604:

No one thought that because they didn’t realise Baruch would be suckling at SFs teat which is the only reason they get a sniff at being above deso.

When there was no SF in the picture they were soundly beaten by a huge margin despite having bigger numbers than Deso and they know it.

Deso player…

The funniest part of this thread is on first page noone thought that Baruch would had a better place than 7th on league… Now we are discussing if Baruch will be the 2nd.

Epic.

Vizu players dislike this post..

Hule.8794:

Majos, check what OP posted.

I totally agree with what you wrote, but Haltair thinks otherwise. He want more points for beating lower servers than AM will get for beating higher servers.

He want that the sistem more fair.. I’m from baruch and i have to agree with him, last 3 weeks we were fighting against weaker servers, and we are trying to fight to reach top 9 again (to be on gold league on the next one), and we are finding that with this sistem based all on luck it’s not fair the actual leaderboard. And as he said we won Abaddon for about 40k points, and now because they had “luck” fighting against higer rated servers they are close to be on a higer place on the leader than us.

Of course they are doing a awesome performance wining Jade and GH, but I don’t think it’s really fair that with this they can be on higer tiers than other servers who can beat by a lot them. I think that the sistem should have to do the MU’s more accuarate on ranking points, because now we started (rating):

Baruch – 1 656.234
Miller – 1 524.748
Ranik – 1 467.823

Now we are winning them by almost the double, and we are +11.505 . So, while some servers just wining them by 1.000 points can earn lots of rating (or even losing they can win rating), other servers due to the unfair system can loose lots of rating (or wining really few) just by wining them for a lot of points.

So the point of this posts, is to have fair matchups so we can have a more accuarate leaderboard.

I don’t know if you understand what I mean… Also, i know that my english is not the best and maybe i’m not saying what i want to… haha

Hule.8794:

By your definition:
You win against much weaker enemy=more points
you win against stronger enemy = less points

Really?

No

You win against much weaker enemy= less points (also you can still lose points, even wining).
you win against stronger enemy = more points

Dayra.7405:

Vizu 30+5 =35
SFR 26+1 = 27
Jade 22 + 5 = 27
Piken 22 + 3 = 25
Baruch 20+5 = 25
That’s shared 4th as Jade will win there is no way for you to reach 3rd
(or do you plan to send your night-forces to Elona or RS for the last 2 nights to stop Jade?)
That’s for the league.

And for Glicko, no idea, I guess 3-5 for you, but gw2wvw.org stopped showing the glicko updates.

I mean on all the league, not just this week… If nothing unexpected happen it will finish like this:

Viz – 35
Jade/SFR – 27
Piken/Baruch – 25

So 4th on leader, 3rd on points.

And with Glicko Baruch it’s on 4th place.

Yo can check it here https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/eu/wvw

Dayra.7405:

majos.8503:

Baruch – Nobody expected to see us fighting some weeks to get 3rd place, even us didn’t expected this, to be honest.

3rd? I guess you mean shared (with Piken) 4th, when there are 2 (SFR & JS) on 2nd, there is no 3rd.

I think that you wasn’t looking at all the MU dude.. Belive me, I stayed all weeks looking on rankins and counting all the posbilities, and yes, we fought for the 3rd place. (Or you don’t remember Baruch v Vizunah v Jade, or the last week when Jade had to push all the friday to win their MU…) Also, we are fighting atm for the 3rd place in points, 4th in ranking. But still 3rd in points.

I think the surprises of this league were:

Kodash – Well thanks of some transfers, but you became the strongest DE server right now.

Jade – No one was thinking that they could make to 2nd place i think.

Baruch – Nobody expected to see us fighting some weeks to get 3rd place, even us didn’t expected this, to be honest.

Also i have to say that Baruch actually just have 2 non-spanish guilds, WAR and run (they’re both french). As someone said before, Baruch has lot of population (almost all PvE population) but there’s lot of people playing on Baruch. As all of you know this game lack of PvE content, so we are having new players everyday so we are able to have better coverage.

kitten guys! Comon!! I’m really looking really close at your MU, come on elona!!! You can comeback again!!!

Yep.. we need to Jade score 1 point to get the diference they made when they won us on our MU… And come on jade!! Let’s share this 3rd place on legaue with us! Don’t be shy!!!

maeggle.6021:

You have to be kidding. This week was one of the worst gameplay-wise — there was no motif, almost no skill and the team play was lacking.

What I always liked about siN is your zerker-style. I don’t know of any other guild dishing out such heavy damage — unfortunately we got sandwiched one too many times by you and other baruchians, which made you one of the most unfun opponents during this match. As soon as you or we engaged, there was always another group popping up from behind.

Well i just can compare you for the first week of season, and you improved a lot since that day… Maybe you have reason (i’m sure) but at least you were stronger than the last time we faced and i think that i have to congratz you Also you have reason, annoying to fight your blobs… full of necros…

About siN, we are sorry.. we try to run alone… but it’s not easy…

I just can say one thing… You did an amazing job Kodash by far the best German server on EU league! You improved a lot, A LOT! Since last time we met!

Really impresive guys

Did you recive any migrations, or just improved your organization?

Great week

As i said to you.. Good luck on your future! Was great fighting with and against you!

Let’s hope to meet again in the future!

gl & hf to all!

Well i get your point, but i don’t agree with it…

This MU for us: Elona vs Baruch vs Vizunah

Yesterday i went to sleep at 2am, we where wining by 200-300 points. I just woke up and we are loosing by 12.150 points. Of course this just show the population imbalance and we can’t do anything against that. But well, Vizunah did a hard work organizing their people during nights and maybe talking to lot of people to cover this hours. They deserve that this work can be shown on points.

Also if we had this cap, mosts of MU would be deciced on monday, so now, there are lots of servers like Riverside or Elona that on weekends are very strong, and during week they become weaker, or Baruch or Piken that on weekends is a weak server and becomes strong during week, so if we had this cap, maybe some server could manage enough points during weekends against us, and would be imposible to comeback from servers like Baruch or Piken, the same on the other hand, there are servers like Elona and Riverside that have a really great performance on weekends, and they maybe would win MU in 2 days, when their performance during the week is not as good as the other servers.

So it would make another population imbalance… Weekend servers against Week servers… I don’t know if you understand what i mean (i know my english is not the best)

We don’t need a ppt cap… WvW is a 24/7 fight, just a few servers can manage that and they’re on top of the leaderboard of course.

But the WvW leaderboard doesn’t mean which server is better, this leaderboard just show who have more coverage and matchup against servers with a similiar coverage, and is the way how they have to do it…

For example, i’m from Baruch here we have population until about 4am, if we play on gold league (high tiers) we have people to fight against, when we were on lower tiers (now silver league) was just PvD during nights and mornings, maybe some servers have more skills than some t1 servers, i don’t doubt about that, but there are more players who want to have fun on WvW outside prime time…

So WvW leaderboard have to show the servers with more cover to matchup this servers against them, and the low pop servers against them, to be more fair and fun for everyone.

If for example just count the points on prime time, almost all servers would be near on points, this means that maybe Vizunah maybe could Matchup against one silver server who don’t have too much coverage, and this would mean that Vizunah players would be almost all day bored doing PvD.

I hope you get what i mean

Now that all servers fought against each server on their league… Which one and why did you enjoyed the most?

For me: eu gold league – jade sea, was a really nice surprise and they did a really good and impresive job!

Ayrilana.1396:

Just take off two zeroes and it’ll be more reasonable.

+1 to your idea! Simple and effective

Some more numbers!!

I captured just 55 times stonemist (i never play on EB).. I would need 454 years!
I used 10.000 supplies on repairs… Just 100 years!! (Really close one)
And for the Yakslapper… 529 years!

Yes… They need to make it more Alt friendly…

I actually play 2 chars (because i need to, but i would stick with one too).

Elementalist – rank 466 (the one i use to raid with my guild)
Guardian – Rank 145 (the one i use to comand pugs)

But i also have my Necro and Warrior fully equiped for WvW, and i don’t play with them since the WxP patch…

I actually think that Piken will do a 3rd place and SFR on 4th. I’ve seen SFR weaker than Piken on this MU.

Well yesterday i was thinking about the WvW regular achievements (not the seasson ones).

It’s ok, that they are planed to gain them after lots of hours, but i think that this is too much.

1.000.000 Dolyaks destroyed
500.000 Escorted caravans
1.000.000 supplies for repairs
1.000.000 objectives captured
100.000 supply camps captured
100.000 towers captured
100.000 keeps captured
25.000 times stonemist captured
1.000.000 total objectives defended
500.000 supply camps defended
500.000 tower defended
500.000 keeps defended
500.000 stonemists defended

The only one i think have decent numbers is the 250.000 kills, it’s a long term one, but can be done.

The other ones, i just think that are too much inflated the numbers, WvW players do WvW for fun, but i think all of us would like to know that some day we could reach some achievements and titles to show. Actually it’s imposible right now…

This post is not a cry, i’m a full WvW player and i know that they have to be long or hard, but this is too much Anet….

So.. Are you planing on making any change on these achievements?

Some numbers:

I have 4.769 objectives captured after a year (taking about 3-4months a break for holidays) it means, that for the title i’d need just 209 years to achieve it!! (Actually i like the game, but i doubt that i will still play in 209 years…)

I know that lot of people will have lot more objectives than me, but one friend have 25.000, he would actually need 40 years to earn it… As I said… imposible achievements.

WvW and just 20+, what is wrong?

THIS IS A BLOB! Anyways i had fun on this defense!

Fun night yesterday defending hills on SFR map!!

Gl & hf all

Graendall.4765:

No no,i asked for guild Warforgis…its just that the name seems to pop everywhere and every time i am like..“wait,i have seen these guys again”…Souls of the Warhorn..i think i have seen em on our server recently!

And yeah 10 BuLL don’t die easily…

Warforgis [WAR] came to Baruch 1 or 2 weeks b4 the league started. They came from Augury Rock.

Andrew Clear.1750:

majos.8503:

I think it would be nice to earn points for each kill (not just when you finish him) when you have the buff. It maybe would solve some population issues, so for example, Vizunah have a great coverage and can own any server on EU league, but on open field they aren’t that good, so maybe would be all more balanced.

@Andrew Clear, well i doubt what you say, if a server wins by nightcap, ususally is because there are just a few enemies, so they couldn’t earn that much points from kills during night time.

This approach, if kills were the only points, would seriously hamper the game mode. Would be easy to exploit.

Well there could be like WxP cap on the kills, when a kill doesn’t give WxP it doesn’t count points either, so no xploit there.

Also, i’m not defending on getting points just on kills, the score system is just right as it is, but need more balance, and i think this would be a nice way to balance it a bit and also a fun way and would make the game more competitive and people would equip better.

I think this would be amazing

I think it would be nice to earn points for each kill (not just when you finish him) when you have the buff. It maybe would solve some population issues, so for example, Vizunah have a great coverage and can own any server on EU league, but on open field they aren’t that good, so maybe would be all more balanced.

@Andrew Clear, well i doubt what you say, if a server wins by nightcap, ususally is because there are just a few enemies, so they couldn’t earn that much points from kills during night time.

UnknownRH.4592:

Btw what happened to Elona you dont seem to be as active as you were during the weekends.

I still remembr on june when we faced Elona, they won us because they have a really strong weekend, they got 40k+ more than us and we couldn’t get that points back.

I think that Elona is one of the stronger servers on EU league on Weekends.

I’m really enjoying this MU, Ty to Piken and Elona for this good fights

Actually Heta have lot of reason on his post… There are maybe ¿4-5 threads? talking about the same. This post isn’t constructive there’s one exposing the bug and lot of people just saying “100% agree”, and the best way to react is with bug reports.

Also, as i said today to lot of baruch people, i’m sure that Anet know this issue, and if we don’t have already the patch, is because they are looking the way on how to fix it, no because they don’t want to fix it. We don’t know where is the fail and maybe it’s not easy to fix.

So.. be patient… Of course i also hate this bug, but we can’t do anything more than wait or quit WvW (or even the game)… I preffer to wait.

Oni speak for yourself please… Baruch won’t team up with any server… fair play….

OniDrake.4361:

Piken got 8 points cuz they just double team others servers, if baruch and elona would do dat on piken maybe piken will start play fair /cheer BB ER

Let me understand that… BB + ER have to play unfair to teach a server how to play fair… My mind is going to explode

Well i don’t know if this is 100% true, because i was playing on Piken BL.

But people on our forums are saying that on reset we had queues and outmaned buff… So, i think it says that this bug is there…

Also, i’m with you Yaro, Anet should fix that bug asap and restart the league… So it’s not fair, for example Baruch have 4 weeks playing on green side… so, we have to play with this bug 4 of the 7 weeks… So, no real results i think…

I’m tired about conspiracy theories, if they help themselves ok, it’s no illegal.. But on other hand we also recived “help” from vizunah when they reset some JS t3.

So plz, stop this absurd discussion.

And i play on Baruch, i’ve seen some strange things this week between both servers, but they can do it and they will do it if they want.

Can we stop talking about the focus and just play the game?

Vizu, you are for sure lot superior (talking about scores) than BB and JS, so… well played dudes

Jade, you give some hope to Baruch, because last week you did a really good job beating RS and Elona and we are really close on gameplay and score, so thanks so much

Keep the thread clean and just enjoy the last day of machup.

Well i have an idea for the queues and at least be all more balanced when all maps have queues…

Priority queues, i won’t say that guilds have priority or priority on your world rank.

But i have to say, that we need a priority on queues for the people who enter with lvl 80. Or do WvW just for lvl 80 people, the queues will stay there and the issues of population, but at least will be all more balanced..

Principle.2019:

Frist step: Just qiut your high population severs

Second step: Transfer to low population severs

Third step: Lets go starting season2

So.. if I understand you… WvW players have to leave their servers to let the PvE players can play? The people who made the server to be where they are, have to leave for the people who didn’t care before?

People from Baruch (or any other language, i say Baruch because there’s only one spanish server) have to go to an international server to be able to play?

And.. all of this for the pve players?

Uhm.. No…

If season 2 means, play WvW it’s ok… If season 2 means, more unorganized players, long queues, huge lags, achievement hunters, more queues, more avhievement hunters and f***ing puzzles… No thanks…

Well i would recomend to you Baruch Bay, but it’s EU server… So, good luck and if you plan on transfering here for sure you will listen spanish haha
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Bueno, yo te recomendaria Baruch, pero es un servidor europeo.. así que mucha suerte por servidores NA y si teneis en mente migrar, aqui seguro que escuchareis castellano jaja

Just vizunah…

Well the achievement doesn’t count towards the meta-achievement and also doesn’t earn you points, so, you shouldn’t care about it. (As far as i know, you can complete the other achievements without this one, isn’t it?)

Are you kidding Augury? The worst part is that we could defend against that…

Doors were down in less than 10 sec each!!

suprNovae.5410:

how’s the queue on kodash/AR/baruch? massive queue on ER

LOOOOOOOOOOOONG!

Queues started maybe at 10am on 3 maps and on Kodash it started at 11am, they were fast queues… but now on prime time.. like 1h queues (or even more).

EB about 1h30 almost all the day…

Hi PvE people!

xNyr.3769:

majos.8503:

CS y DsD os buscaremos tenerlo claro

CS move to Elona Reach

Wow i didn’t know that, ty for the information.

I didn’t play on this mu yet, but i think it will be an amazing week

CS y DsD os buscaremos tenerlo claro

GL to all and keep the thread clean!

Atoss.1056:

Yea RS making wp in sm every day and resetting both enemys keeps

For OdS always bring stealth traps :P Takes ages to find all of them with perma stealthing. Annoying to enemy but funny and good way to play definately.

It’s also hard for us to find them! And we can see their spot on minimap!!!!

They are an amazing guild, and we have the luck that they are on our server, they also teach other thiefs from baruch.

Well was a bit frustrating week to me, Riverside had lot more population than some month ago when we last met and i don’t like a lot that you ever run on large zergs, anyways good luck on next mathchups! Deso i hope you have fun on silver league and I hope to see you raising again in some time

Dahir.4158:

Sorry Abaddon <3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2kdt8-A2vw
This isn’t all that happened at the tower but maybe someone will upload it all later. We had great fun tonight in EB fighting you guys and the imps guild!

Also to remind you whenever you see a D/D elementalist from EXG in front of your zerg… kill it quickly!

Hahahaha amazing! Really nice video

Axle.5182:

It don’t help either when all your community tools TS and Forum is faced by relentless DDOS attacks these last few days, everything has had to be pulled for the time being. Talk about hitting a community when it’s down eh?.

Best of luck to the guys dealing with the situation we gotta ride out the storm.

Sad to hear this

On Baruch against Elona we had several DDOS atacks also when they where attacking our t3, it’s frustrating…

I don’t understand why people doesn’t play fair… this is a game and it’s for fun, guys!

Anyways i don’t think this can be a DDOS, i have the Deso ts (used it to kill tequalt) and yesterday night i was trying to enter to see if people up for tequalt and the ts was down, maybe is for too much people connected and it looks like a DDOS attack.

I don’t know, but i hope you solve this issue asap.