oh this is bad, so practicly its abusable!
imagine, there is a person who plays really REALLY bad and get the group wiped out but you cant still say aynthing to him couse he made the group, if you kit him off he will leave and you end up getting nothing for all the deaths at all :OOO
I actually had some fun playing the dungeons, but i still have to agree with you its more hard hard then fun hard for real now, no way in hell i will play the same dungeon twice, so its actually not fun.
And that is, becuase it was only fun cause it was new, this was the ONE AND ONLY fun part of it
you made a really good thread here
We also reduced the rewards of completing story mode, once you have already completed it, because the rewards for story mode were never intended to be a high as they were.
Right now we are working hard to make sure there are not any ways for players to circumvent the normal rewards in the game and then we will be able to look at the actual rewards and make sure they require a reasonable amount of investment.
Dungeons are meant to be difficult and we will continue to update them to try and reach a point where the time invested to XP/Gold/Tokens is similar for each dungeon. Some right now are just too easy to complete while others may be too hard. Moving forward we will try and post more clear change notes for those dungeons we do fix.
Thanks for your feedback, we really appreciate your desire to help us keep improving on the game.
Jon
Thank you very much jon for this post, it makes me feel like someone is actually reading our posts and complains, i really have high hopes in this game and are happy about some feedback from you.
This is the first MMO where i experience the developers to make a really good job and trying hard to get it better FOR REAL!
But
1. the thing you said about nerv the rewards as soon as you completed a dungeon, i hope this is only when the team really made it till the whole end and it wont get nerved when the team gave up in the middle of it!
2. Why already nerfing the reward after completing it once?
What about exp-mode in the dungeons, there are 3 paths, so it must be a full reward for each of them at least once!
3. Why making all dungeons same difficult? Shouldnt the first dungeon for lvl 30+ be a bit easier as the onces who come later? Or let me ask the other way around, the ones who come after a bit harder?
4. I really like that the dungeons are hard, but im dissappointed about the rewards they give even now are already poor! Couse they are usually for other proffessions anyway, make some detection of proffession or at least allow to choose what you want / need!
5. The highest problem is, that the reward for completing the dungeon doesnt allways cover the repair cost and you might end up even in minus!
There is my suggestion how to solve this:
Make a counter for each of the players how often they repaired in the instance, how often they tried to heal the teammates, how much damage did they do to the mobs and based on those numbers, calculate the amount of money they get at the end!
Ty
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i agree to the point that i do them only for fun, couse nothing else left here,
but all the fun is still poisoned by the costs, you actually get easely into minus from all the repair costs than get something out of the run
the problem here is its just more frustrating than fun
so true,
i was so excited at first, made my charakter leather and juwelier expert,
but im lvl 50 already and still need like never ending amount of copper ore to get super crappy rings i dont even need anymore and get easely better ones as loot,
bank space is limited, so there is no way to put EVERYTHING i make inside for alts
its hilarious
that devs couldnt think about such a simple strategy to make crafting worth while and level – matching
i quit with crafting after getting with my juwelier skill only to lvl 34
and i started to farm EVERYTHING i found on my way since the release of the game!
such a long time effort and no use at all >_> you screwed up big here
and your idi-otic update, which allows to use those maths as mystic-forge thingy… everyone naturally sell those couse noone even trys those proffessions, and not couse there is more of those maths as needed.
tz how s… can you devs be?
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“slap in the face” true spoken!
++ this
oh common i BUYED THIS GAME so i hoped it wont get RUINED by patches, and now THIS? make at least a statement! WHY? what the f are you thinking about doing this?
its hard enough to find a group for dungeons now you nerv the rewards? WTF is wrong with you? Any of you devs even read our complains or comments?
im shoked too!! WTF even less reward for THIS!! RLY NOW? are they insane? what are they thinking?
how does this even work? which kind of limit?
at least they could discribe it meh!
im p i s s e d!!!!!!!!
So im lvl 50 now, thief and a casual player with no special gear.
I must say i love the Dungeons, they are really hard, need a lot of strategy and a good group which heal each other while downed and not thinking only about they own survivability – but the team success!
My first experience was in AC-story mode with a group where we died about 30 times or something, couse noone had a clue what to do, but we still managed to trap one of the lovers and kill them seperately after like 12 tries. After that we felt like pros
BUT what the heck is wrong with the crap you get for ALL the effort?
Only the feeling = “yea we made it”, dont give you the the satisfaction or the incentive to do this again!
The time-reward ratio is just dumb, even if you manage to get out of this with minimal repair cost.
In this game the leveling doesnt matter all too much, couse you level without effort anyway, so they need to be some good items, some good money out of it to get more good players to play it and not only those who never did that before to get dissapointed and never try it again.
Never managed to complete AC-exp mode, even after we managed to beat up the crazy pulling-spinn-guy in the middle, which costed insane lot of repairs and some running around strategy, couse someone has allways to stay alive, so he doesnt reset himself.
But those overhelming mobs which come out of holes and you have to defend 2 towers with only 5 people? We tried EVERYTHING, but this … this is not possible! Specially couse the ranged attacs could not hit the burrows, so this is only for a melee group?
Could you at least make some hints, the npcs could give us? Leave just a little bit of a clue anywhere? Maybe somewhere hidden?
After making CM-exp mode with a really amazing group, which sacrifieced lives, hopes, effort, time, money, … we managed to kill the final boss… … em yea.. some exp…. no treasure, we set around the fire lol and talked even on a monday on 2am couse we felt overhelmed that we’ve beaten this crap and were welded together from the FRUSTRATION of the rewards. ROFL but this cant be the issue? Can it?
I have to say the story mode litteraly more worthwhile, you get some yellow stuff and dont have even 1/1000 of the effort to finish it.
Make at least 1 reward which is proffession-matching and overhelming good, for this!
Then soon there will be for sure a lot of guides to beat this crap without thinking about some own strategies and there will be no reason for exploring them or the feeling like you discovered something new to give you the pro-feeling lol
Please thinking about this devs.
absolutly agree this chat blocking kitten me of like hell!
they should make a system which allows simply a slogan above your head so you can type it and stand around waiting for someone to invite you or whisper you to get an invite!
I actually now used the RealTemp and logged the temperature,
right before the crash it has only 70°C
so absolutly normal, just like i guessed
but now it restarted itself without me pushing the button for a new start,
so its not just a shut down, its auto-restart!
I downloaded now GeForce GTX 460M which was auto-detected by:
http://www.geforce.com/drivers
even if i actually should had it already, but will report how its going.
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Since i ever installed GW2 my Laptop just shuts down only in the mitddle of playing,
it happens allways once or twice everyday in the middle of running somewhere or just standig around, without some explicit reason.
My laptop is not overheating for sure,
maybe couse i play it with the highest resolution but it shouldnt usually be a problem, couse other games with this or higher resolution run smoothly and it wouldkitten me off to play a game with lower settings, what do i have a gamer laptop for then?
I dont use 3D or anything special.
ASUS G73SW TZ264V
- Core i7 2630QM / 2 GHz (2.9 GHz) / 6 MB Cache
- Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit-Edition
- 8 GB RAM DDR3
- 750 GB HDD + 750 GB HDD + 7200 rpm
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M
- 1.5 GB GDDR5
I will try to update the grafic-driver if its available, just want to report the issue anyway.