Guild Wars 2

I use to think the same way you do, but I don’t anymore. Also I have no desire to go back to that play style. It’s just not fun.

It’s the same reason that they have a slam dunk contest at the NBA all star game, and not a rebounding contest. Or they have a home run derby, and not a fly ball catching contest. It’s not exciting, it’s not fun for most people.

Personally I’d love to see them add a gvg game type. I would gladly leave wvw and all of its broken mechanics and pve bullkitten. Then you could have you exciting 2 guys in a tower fight.

Ive been up and down the NA ladder and played against most servers, and since you enjoy defense I can suggest a few servers that tend to play good defense. BP has historical been a very good defensive server, some of the best seige placement and usage I’ve seen,also they know how to use seige as well. NSP are pretty good as well, this would be my server of choice to transfer to if I were to leave my server. Good peeps, good fights. Mag and SBI are very good defensively as well. I also hear YB is good, but I haven’t witnessed it personally. If you like defense that much maybe you could try one of them.

At this point in the game I could care less about capping towers, keeps or ppt. The past 2 guilds that I’ve been in only ever attacked a tower or keep to try to force the other servers to group up and give us a fight, instead of constantly karma training on the other teams Bl. Of course we would respond call outs on our Bl to protect our stuff, but only because that was where the fight was.

The guild I was in for the first 2 years of the game spent all of there time guarding home Bl up grading towers and keeps and back capping enemy karma trains.

I can’t Remember the last time we have actually attacked an enemy tower to cap it for ppt. This is they way most wvw guilds operate. You turn wvw into a defensive game and the majority of people will leave, because that’s just not an enjoyable play type for most people.

Like I said in another thread about defense.

Your doing it wrong!

If anything defense is currently too strong and it is way to easy for a defending force to remove an attacking forces seige. The arrow cart cap is to high and should be lowered, and don’t get me started on the shield generator and supply drop. Both of which should have never been added to the game.

The overall problem isn’t defense being to weak. The problem is the expectations of a few people who only like to defend. This is a game. The towers and keeps are not in the game to be consider and used in the same manner as real castles and keeps. The keeps.in game are not ment to be a strong hold to conceal you from an invading force. They are ment to be an object to force servers to fight each other. The walls are just there to slow the enemy down so the defenders have time to respond. If your server doesn’t respond fast enough then you should lose it.

Ive spent the majority of my wvw time as a defender. Ive spent 8 hours on a treb to defend a keep against a bandwagon server with a population to high for the tier they are in.

5 people successful defending against 50 is not and should not be a game mechanic. Eventually your server is going to have to group up and push the enemy off your tower or keep. If not they can set outside take your camp dwindle down your supply poke multiple hole in the walls and take your keep. Defense is more than setting on a wall and waiting for the enemy to leave.

Just as I thought! Your doing it wrong. Operator error cannot be accounted for. I have fat fingers, but that’s not my keyboards fault.

Siege.

But you can’t ,and shouldn’t be able to, defend anything with one arrow cart. It takes cannons, mortars, trebs, cats, carts, and people. If you only got 3or 4 guys show up to defend your keep, you should lose it.

I’m not sure what your talking about. I just spent over an hour attacking NSPs ebg keep and they defended it pretty well. I don’t know, maybe your doing it wrong.

The spider farm is an excellent way to point out the absurdity of the new content and how unrewarding it is, and how out of touch anet is from its player base. There is no way to make any sense out of a random group of Veterans should produce more expensive than the entire map meta event. I’ve done the meta on multiple maps enough that I’ve unlocked the complete elite trait lines on 10 character’s . The map meta just do not give enough rewards,and are way too long to complete. Hell most of the mobs inside the meta don’t even give xp.

With that being said…. there is nothing wrong with the spider farm. You aren’t going to get rich from it, and you have to have xp buffs for it to be worth it. Also if your running more than 6 or 7 people the amount of xp you get from it is greatly reduced because the mobs die quicker than you can tag them. So yiu can never get enough people doing them to effect the overall success or failure of the map meta. There is probably more people doing the hp points on the map than doing the spider farm.

Hearts that’s a good idea. We need at least 3 between every tower. The next question is do they reset daily, weekly, or monthly.

I’m thinking world boss in each corner. Jormag in the northeast. Teq in the southeast. Maybe mordramoth in the southwest. Scarlet in the northwest. And fractals can replace the laser!

/scarcasm

So I’m following my guild around our borderland, elbows on my desk, bored out of my mind, and I finally figured out how to fix WvW. WvW needs to have more PVE to replace all the players that use to play WvW. This is how empty the BL’s are I can type this and still keep up with the group.

You would think that spend 2 to 3 hours killing that thing would atleast be worth one full bar of mastery. You spend the entire time killing mobs with little down time. You kill countless Champs and legendaries, and you might get half a bar. That’s with finishing the map and killing the dragon. When the map fails you get nothing.

The mobs should give more xp.

Yes. The group I was with only killed it because it bugged out twice. We got him down to 5% and couldn’t progress. I think he is supposed to do damage to himself…maybe. He wouldn’t die so we wiped to reset. But he only half reset. The mission restarted, and continued where it left off so we had to fight Rytlock and the others while fighting all the mobs on the last stage. He eventually killed himself…….so whatever……..miserable story over.

FYI don’t try to solo it, not worth the aggravation.

I agree with the op 100%. Wvw is and has always been about fighting other players. The argument of “wait a few weeks everyone is in pve getting new stuff” is just wrong. We had more people on than usual, everyone wanted to try out the new stuff and was excited. Until we spent an hour looking for either of the other teams with out much success. When we did find another group they would run away because no one wanted to fight in the chokes. I normally play 4 hours+ on reset night, but I lasted about an hour and a half. By the time I had left a 1/3 of our guild had already logged due to being bored?

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I’ve played this game for almost 4000 hours. I’ve played every aspect of this game other than Eotm, and enjoyed most of it, but this expansion has removed every ounce of fun from the game. It’s like they have no clue what the people who play this game want. The main attraction to this game from the very start was NO GRIND. They locked all the new content behind a difficult to navigate map that needs gate locked skills to complete. Then they remove fights from wvw by adding ludacrisly large maps and WAYYYYY TO MUCH PVE. I just cannot comprehend WTF ANET was thinking when they made any of the changes. It is like they are completely unaware of who plays this game.

The entire concept behind these new maps is ridiciuosly stupid. Instead of making decent content that is slightly difficult and fun to play they have decided to make it take longer to do by just making it diffcult to find. I put off buying this expansion because I knew anet was going to something like this, now I am full on regretting buying it. I really don’t mind grinding stuff out to get my gear and other things I want in game. But I shouldn’t have to spend hours looking for 1 hero point. Who ever designed these map should Never design another map because they clearly have no clue what they are doing. It the same type of content they made for Eotm and we see how much people use it.

Maps need to flow. There should be some direction that generally pushes people to where they need to go. Some maze type terrain is fine, but every map that anet has come out with since original launch has been this type multiple level BS.

I lawl’d. Goergy=biggest fail troll ever

hyjaxxx.1584:

well, the battles have been fun.Its nice to see some strategy. I know Dark Haven spirits are high despite the 40k AR lead. I have a feeling that we are going to be getting an influx of transfers to DH to fill our Completely Dead AM shift. Once that happens..Batten down the hatches cause the Dark Haven Pain Train is Coming through!

As a side note, I would be interested to see where the majority of AR players Hail From….because your around the clock coverage is amazing… Multiple States with basements packed with glazy eyed AR’ers kickin us around hehe.

Around the clock coverage?

Whadafu when did we get that?

I miss BP………did I really just say that.

DH and IOJ drop crappy loot, Im kinda tired of geting spikes :-S

I would to thank the BP that just ninja’d NSP’s Bay while their entire zerg was guarding the sw camp. Everyone in the SW tower was rolling laughing watching the swords inside Bay for 10 minutes.

Dear AR and BP

Please stop telling NSP and mainly PAXA what they are doing wrong. They arrogant enough the way it is! Could you imagine what it would do to their egos if they actually finished second? The forums would implode!

@PAXA
You are the best guild ever, keep up the good work!

Anvil Pants.3426:

The Flame Ram Backpack should be only the ram’s head, and yes, it should spout jets of flame periodically.

Wearing the backpack should give you /humptydance and an air-hump animation to “ram dat gate” with.

Step off….Im doing the HUMP!

Brillliant!!!

Funniest moment in WvW History.

NSP is hitting our South Eastern tower, the AR zerg gets almost to the door and Ronny runs straight into them. Ronny gets hit with a hammer and some eles, and goes flying across the map. Insta death. Half of the AR zerg relizes who it is, and stops mid fight to emote on his corpse.

With 45 minutes or so left and the score with BP only 1000 points behind AR for the lead. This has been an amazing match up.

Props to Plok for pulling the all nighter to turn the match from a close AR win to a sqeaker in the final minutes. Im always amazed at how you can pull numbers exactly when BP needs thems and how well your guys respong to you when you need them. I knew you guys still had it in you!

Im so Proud of every single person on AR right now. Not that long ago we would have folded on BP’s push the other night. Not to mention all the dramathat has happened this week on the server. Twogallants….. Thanks for the all nighter last night to get us close.

NSP it was a good fight and you defended your borderlands much better this week.

This is the best Match Up ever

Noroz.9527:

Okay, an FYI to everyone interested in transferring to NSP. This is not how NSP works. If you are interested in transferring, please disregard comments regarding Ronny. It is not how we work.

If what Bearded said is accurate, I will, not co-operate, along with my guild and most likely my allies.

If you knew exactly how much I have toned it down from exactly what happened and why you would be amazed. Also I ask several other people in the AR alliance if it was too much? All said it was spot on. The only problem any one had was that they thought I should have left out the part about getting help for his personal problem. I left it in because it wasn’t meant as a shot at Ronny. I do hope he decides to seek help. We have mutual friends, and I hate to see them drug threw this over and over!

Anvil Pants.3426:

Bearded.6485:

Anvil Pants.3426:

I do say, good sir, thou art most unfortunately mistaken!

That’s it , you big hipped necro………….you and me quag island ARB! Flame Ram Throw Down!!!!!!!!!

LORD FLAME RAM MUST BE APPEASED.

ITS kittenING ON

EDIT:

KNEEL BEFORE HIS ICON OF [RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION]!

OH NOES….I got beat!!!!!!!!!!

@Ronny
So you caused a bunch of drama, then got your feelings hurt when people actually started treating you the way that you treat everyone else. Ironic isnt it!

You left GOM because there was too much drama and noone would listen to you, and now you are leaving AR because there is too much drama and noone would listen too you. At what point do you look at yourself and relize its not everyone else………IT’S YOU.

You left long time friends on AR, people who stayed because the way you are acting is absurd. The sad part is there wasnt a single person involved that didnt want to work this out with you, NOT ONE PERSON! The unforuntate thing is you wouldnt back down, and admit you were in the wrong. The more you pushed the more other people will push back. Like I told you before I left TCMM. “You are you’re own worst enemy.”

Good Luck Ronny, I hope you will seek the help you need to fix your personal problems, and get you life in order so stuff like this doesnt happen again!

@TCMM
The Guys that left you will be missed. TCMM was a great bunch of guys. To the Guys that havent left . Sahira has stayed on AR, the Alliance is still intact, and the TS server is still avaible and will be for the forseeable future. As long as your not in NSP or another server you are welcome to join any time. If you dont want to go or are not sure what to do. There is a home for you on AR. The majority of the people that made TCMM great stayed on AR.

Anvil Pants.3426:

I do say, good sir, thou art most unfortunately mistaken!

That’s it , you big hipped necro………….you and me quag island ARB! Flame Ram Throw Down!!!!!!!!!

Rob.7624:

Oh..

I just came back on and we seem to have lost..
Like everything.

Why do you do this to me NSP.
D:

Get your kitten out of PvE and come fight like real virtual men. (Real fake men irony)

LMFAO

Btw BP you looked like you needed some help with Stonemist. Your Welcome! ;-)

Saint Maeva’s offering to Lord Flame Ram

also thx for the help Achilles Wolves from NSP’s OS guild for the help and fun

DH can you please explain to us why you are ramming the north gate of your bay when the northeast gate is open and noone is guarding it? :-S

DH this will teach you to not take a tower on the AR borderland. Death by flame ram build sites. LMFAO

@ Rob

Please stop poopooing about how DR doesnt attack AR. We have to defend a DR breakout about every 30 minutes on average a day. Some times its a couple of hours betwen breakout, some times its as soon as he respawns. I personally spent 5 hours on a treb inside our SW tower on opening night because DR kept popping the breakout event as soon as it was avaible. Also DR doesnt do a break out event with the 10 min. it usually a 30 or 40 man zerg.

I know of atleast 3 different commanders that have reset DR’s Hills, Bay , or Garrison atleast once this week. A couple have reset them mutiple times. We arent specifically targeting you and not DR. The simple fact is DR defends there stuff, if we do manage to take it they take it back before we get a chance to get dug in and defend them. most often the only thing we try to do is reset them so they dont have a waypoint anyway.

Today we have been hammered by both NSP and DR on our borderland. At one point this morning we had a total of 15 people on our map attempting to defend both of the other servers. that lasted the majority of the day. You know what, our map is still mostly red, and except for losing bay a couple of times, it’s been mostly red.

I cant count the number of times, this week, that Ive seen a 30 to 40 man NSP zerg attack our borderlands and do a break out event while most of your map is owned and controlled by DR. DR does a better job defending your borderlands than you do. TBH AR figured out that you guys didnt defendi your borderlands the first week we played you, DR has figured that out as well. Easy points.

You want to know the only reason our map stays red?

Its the same reason that your part of EB stays red, and our part is always green.

WE DEFEND IT!!

Wow, you edited it and added the link to my forums profile………….. you’re obviously a person of extreme high quality character. insert sarcasm

I was going to write this extremely long post proving how little you know and how big of a troll you are, but you pretty much did that for me. Thanks

@Kardiamond

Your the one that decided to call me out when the only post I had made in this thread was a comement about the update timing.

So I’ll make you a deal. You remove or edit your posts trolling me and the alliance and I will take down my post trolling you. The problems we have in Anvil Rock belongs in the guildleaders meetings, in the servers TS, or any where but here, but if youd like to air it out here Im willing to do that too!

Kardiamond.6952:

Your attitude is the reason why I had to defend the alliance to so many players in game. I tried to back the alliance up, but since the exploit I gave up.

My attitude? Im not the one coming here and making wildly false accusations against my server mates, and calling people out without a clue why they do what they are doing.

jeez we finally get rid of the kith guy and you roll in.

You still havent answered my question!

Why did I tell everyone to leave Ogres?

@Kardiamond

Wow….Im geting called out for not defending, thats funny.

I did tell everyone not to defend Ogre’s, can you tell me the reason why? Please try to answer

It was 2 very important reasons.

and for the Record when I did tell everyone to leave ogres, Anz’s was already green, so I dont know what your talking about there. Also I went off on the people in EB on Sunday morning because I kept dropping arrow carts in Anz to DEFEND it and noone would build them. I even took Speldans emptied the supply and they kept shoving all the supply in the door.

If you have a problem with something I do, whisper me, come to TS and ask, or go get your own f’n commander tag and try it yourself. I will gladly turn mine off and let you drop 90% of the seige like the rest of the commanders on AR have to do.

PS
Please stop trolling the BP matchup thread. We dont want them here trolling ours.

Thanks

Get Ready, Get Set,….. WAIT……………..

Nap Time

Awesome take your largest most dedicated segment of your population and make them spend and hour or 2 to download a patch they dont care about during their most important and busiest part of the week.

BRILLIANT!!

ktith.6197:

So I hear that the kitten alliance has called EOH a bunch of “rainbow warriors” (since I can’t use the other name here on the forums). And here I thought the “alliance” was trying to be the “patriots and example setters” for Anvil Rock. Can we say…insecure much?

If you want people to respect you, then you need to show them respect. It is only natural for the people in the alliance to bad mouth you when you bad mouth the alliance! Please don’t come here and act like a victim when you refuse to work with the alliance, and spew crap here in the forums, in team chat and in private chat. If you want to work with us and make this server better, awesome. We would be more than willing to do provide a place for you to do that and allow your voice to be heard. If you want to complain and moan that no one listens to you and that the alliance is a joke then please shut up and stop being one of the biggest trolls in Anvil Rock.

melodyca.8921:

Hey Anvil Rock!!!

Placing Siege Rams over Supply Camps??? You are already in the freaking lead.
What more do you freaking want?

And here is the proof

The tag on one of your members guarding the rams was “SDS”

So much for your integrity. LOL

We have a certain member that finds it absolutely hilarious to drop rams in odd places then watch the pugs build them. It’s actually become a running joke at this point. More than once he has laid down a line of rams from our spawn to the first tower.

BTW
It effects our siege cap not yours. LOL

titanlectro.5029:

So is ET actually pushing AR back and GoM is not? Or did AR decide to go “easy” on ET.

Practicing our defense. GOM gives us a better fight.

GOM has made an absolutly awesome attempt to get there garrison for the past 6 hours, came very close several times. GOM should be very proud of the fight that they have put up today.

Thank you GOM!

We had one small guild come from BP, I that I know of. Atleast that is all that was introduced in our weekly leaders meeting. We have also picked up 1 or 2 guilds for the past couple of weeks, but thats not what your seeing this week. The big thing is we are winning and that is bringing out the fair weather WvWer’s. We still dont have any Q’s on any of the maps except for the rare occassion.

There’s not a whole lot different this week except that BP isnt here, and we arent concentrating on them. Also we are trying to get the score up to prevent another collaspe like 2 weeks ago, since we dont seem to consistantly have a night crew. We made the mistake last week to semi leave you guys alone, then BP took everything and GOM for the most part didnt take there stuff back. GOM not playing last week scewed the score, which is why we arent leaveing ET alone. Also we took BP’s advise and started hitting up the PvEer’s!

Basically what your seeing in a comulative effect of several things! An alliance that works together, a few more people, We were concentrating our numbers on BP, now we are concentrating them on you, we are getting more organized, and playing smarter.

IMHO
Anvil Rock is about 2 or 3 medium sized guilds for a night crew from being pretty good. We could also use a few more primetime guilds as well, ID like to run a few dungeons :-P

BTW you GOM and ET guys that play WvW and want to be apart of a good alliance that works together, should look at Anvil Rock. The allaince is already set up and we already have a server wide TS. Also there is a decent possibilty that Anvil Rock is going to face BP next week and we are going to need the help!

jkctmc.8754:

@Bearded

There is no need for you to insult that person.

Odd, I tried really hard NOT to insult him.

ktith.6197:

@Bearded

I’ll set ya straight one more time, and after that, well that’ll be on you. That treb setup in WC that night, I did alone with running sups outta rogue’s quarry. I also upgraded WC solely that night….when one of your alliance guilds claimed it. You can think you know what’s going on all you like, but you’re another one of those that has been “elected” to receive your icon by the means of individuals buying gold through gold farmers in order to gain said icon, as are many in the alliance. I know some got lucky with the event for the Lost Shores, but I know ahead of time what’s actually going on. THIS is why server’s aren’t allowed to vote for commanders….because large guilds would have a popularity contest about it and automatically vote their guys in just to have a rep for their guild.

LOL I dont have a Commander Tag, but you will see me in team chat, ALOT, helping the commanders, who are all in TS, direct people to what they need to be doing.

As for the treb, I watched you throw it down after the camp was taken back by BP. The reason I know this was I was the one in the camp leading the defense of it so we could upgrade the tower. The only reason I was in the tower was because the Bailsta I was manning in the camp had been destroyed. I watched you take supply from the tower to build the treb!

In all honesty no one would have cared if you had built it out of the tower supply or not, if you would have aimed it at BP’s keep or for Defense. You had to aim it at GOM’s freshly capped Stone Mist. Which managed to bring the GOM Zerg over to Wildcreek. You waypo’d right after I called you out on it, and left the rest of us there to defend Wildcreek with GOM hitting us on one side and BP on the other. That why you built the treb in the first place, to stir up GOM and make us fight both at the same time. Its a shame really, we had a really nice large assult force, not a zerg an Assult Force, all working together getting supply, building seige, taking down enemy seige, defending the camp, speeding up doylaks. Doing all the little things we need to do to be successful. Then one guy comes and messes it all up. On purpose!

I would like to thank you for admitting that you built the treb and was firing it at Stonemist while everyone else was working really hard at doing something else! Proves your not the team player you claim to be here.

LOL @ the person who is complaining about people on AR not working together, who set up a treb the other night in Wildcreek (using supply from the tower while we were upgrading it)to treb GOM’s Stonemist while everyone else was trying to get into BP’s keep.

For what its worth, He was wrong when he said that about the Buffs, and not all of us left. Several of us stayed and repaired both gates at Garrison. The Alliance has someone on every map during peak hours. The reason we were at Garrison when he said that, was because we had someone on the server TS at Garrison informing us as to what the gates were at. We were busy taking BP’s bay and hopped back to help save Garrison as soon as we capped it. He was upset because we cant seem to get people to understand that you get nothing out of claiming a keep unless the guild claiming the keep has buffs running. We were running all the BUFF’s if we would have been able to claim Garrison we would have been able to make it easier for a smaller force to defend. While we hopped back over to BP to defend Bay which we just capped.

We understand that not every alliance can pull enough infleunce to run buffs all the time, thats why we try to run them. Different Guilds in the alliance will run them at different times. If TCMM cant run them, then ALS, WAR, LITH, SOS, ect. will. There is not a single guild in the Alliance that does what is best for them, they do what is best for the server. But it gets frustrating, when you have the few who want to see there banner on a keep just because it looks pretty, or who consistantly takes supply from the keep when you are upgrading it, or rebuild that reinforced gate which is only at 90% instead of the seige right beside it. Dont forget the people who upgrade a keep by first buying a merchant, not a second worker or reinforced walls, but a MERCHANT!

Like I said before He was wrong, but you are also wrong to come here and bad mouth the people in AR that are trying to make it better. He is no where close to being perfect, but he has been the only person in AR to step up and try to organize everyone, get them working together, and get them to play smarter. And it is showing in how the server is doing and the new guilds that are moving to AR because they want to work with the Alliance.

Stop pointing at the hole in the boat and grab a bucket, Please!

Nice fights on BP borderlands tonight, was fun. Almost got your Garrison twice. Nice work on reinforcing it both times just as we were about to cap it. Also nice assult on our Garrison, you got close, but we got there from your Bay just in time. :-) When I left your map was back too all green. we will be back in a day or 2. ;-)

ktith.6197:

@GSS

AR lacks in number 2 and 3. While they do sometimes upgrade and sometimes defend….most of the time it’s zergy mczerg present on the maps. I still love the server, and love to hate it some nights too. There isn’t any one problem that can be addressed because AR has 50 commanders on the server (and that’s probably not far off) plus an alliance that tries to dictate who can do what or who “is” going to be an icon holder.

Ive been in Anvil Rock since the first beta, and this attitude along with low numbers during the day are Anvil Rock’s biggest problems. The ARB alliance has been working really hard to get everyone to work together and play smarter. Unfortunatly we have a few that think they know more than everyone else and like to spend more time complaining in the forums and team chat than actually fighting.

The Guilds that make up the alliance spend more on upgrades and seige than anyone else in the server on a nightly basis, only too see it get lost the next morning while we are at work.

A perfect example is last night at reset I personally spent 5 gold upgrading and defending Bay for the first 2 hours, then Muscle Russel and Aece Shadow(whatever) started complaining about how ARB didnt need the alliance and how worthless the Alliance was, So the alliance left, and they quickly lost eveything on the map, while the alliance shifted to another borderland and took everything.

The only reason that AR took the lead last week for a few days was because about 30 people from the alliance played for about 12 hours straight for 3 days in a row.

What AR needs is for all the guild leaders to join the allaince so we can ALL START WORKING TOGETHER, and everyone knows exactly why we are doing certain things, and why we arent. The aliance is a very good thing, we just need to get more people to buy into it.