Guild Wars 2

Kcrook.3945:

Dynnen.6405:

Kcrook.3945:

billiamgrace.2804:

Kcrook.3945:

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Kcrook.3945:

EFWinters.5421:

Today’s karma training from SBI has made me realize what a sad state WvW is in.

For those of us who don’t omniblob or karma train it is very very boring. Roaming around 50-75% of the time looking for people to fight because Ebay and NSP for the most part aren’t showing up at all anymore. I don’t blame them really, just sucks for everyone all around.

Assuming you are who I think you are…

Good god, you are a tank. I don’t think any other guardian has given me as much trouble in WvW as you did earlier during those duels. It’s been a while since I had to call a stalemate against someone who was not an ele. I was the ranger, Billiamgrace was the mesmer.

Ahh, yeah that was a fun duel, you got that regen down to a science :P

I’m actually not tanky at all, I only run about 2700 total armor and 600 healing. I just hold my own well against condi classes because I shifted to Soldier Runes and I use SoR for the passive condi removal along with the traited passive condi removal.

Oh, and FOR SHAME for that mesmer using perplexity runes. Isn’t Condi Mes strong enough without using the most over powered rune set in the game? We all need to boycott that garbage.

Perplexity runes definitely do need nerfing. The fact that the sixth bonus doesn’t have an ICD is straight up ridiculous.

That being said, I’ve been running a Condition-Interrupt build with the same trait layout (give or take 5 trait points here or there) since late April (i.e. before Mesmer interrupts were buffed, before Perplexity runes were introduced). I’m not going to forego a runeset that synergizes perfectly with that build/playstyle purely because it is unbalanced for non-mesmers. There are certainly strong Condi Mesmer builds sans Perplexity runes. However, those builds are not interrupt builds and I, personally, do not find them to be as rewarding to play.

I realize this comes across as a massive QQ on my part. For that, I apologize. I honestly enjoyed fighting you earlier. You play the meditation style well.

You mention that it is unbalanced for non-mesmers. I would think it is the MOST imbalanced for classes that can already apply confusion, since your duration and stacking intensity is MUCH higher. That said, I understand people ran confusion before the runes, still do, and will continue to do so once they are nerfed and that’s fine. The fact that the set creates a great imbalance though can not be ignored.

You’re only mad cause you still play your Guard

Don’t make me hunt you down and crit you to death :P

With all that extra fury you have now from how overpowered meditations are, amiright?

Yam.2891:

does anyone else enjoy getting shot at by glass longbow rangers as much as i do?

You have no idea.

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

A big shout-out to all of the roamers and guild groups we came across this week. These skilled group fights are the only reason I play this game, and I’m sure the same goes for so many of you.

So, thank you to everyone we fought. Keep up the good work, and keep roaming alive.

What skilled enemy groups did you come across? The best I found were average roamers. Even the self-proclaimed good roamers were push overs and would call in more friends when they continuously wiped with even numbers.

I’ll agree, a majority of the fights were very one-sided. But putting people down doesn’t help the overall state of the game. Be thankful for those “average roamers”, and encourage them to keep trying.

If they call in more numbers, take that as a compliment. Most importantly, show some respect. The game needs more guild groups and small man teams.

No, respect is earned.

If the self-proclaimed roamers talk smack and claim that they can 1v2 us, but get whooped in a 1v1 by someone not even running a 1v1 build, or if they repeatedly get wrecked in an even numbers fight, but call in more friends until they have twice the numbers and then talk trash, they deserve no respect.

If the self-proclaimed small-man group repeatedly loses in an even numbers fight and then simply ends up running all the way to their spawn to avoid fighting, they do not deserve respect.

If that group waits until they have significantly more players than you do in order to fight, they do not deserve respect.

If they do want respect, then they can reflect on why they lost an even-numbers engagement and see if they can change their strategy and come again with the same numbers. They can change who they target, how they approach the fight, their trait setup, class make-up etc. and come back with the same numbers to try and win. If they do that, then they deserve respect.

I have not come across any groups like that yet this week.

Not trying to start kitten, but I’m curious who these self proclaimed roamers that supposedly talked kitten are. This thread has been pretty tame in that regard, and I can’t think of anyone who posted claiming to be the best 1v1 player. Also what guild do you run with, just wondering if I ran into you at all, because if I did I would be quite surprised if you didn’t find it a good fight.

Rednik.3809:

Dynnen.6405:

You gotta leap out of it with Hammer 2, and the range on ES is twice as far. Plus 7 and 3/4 seconds isn’t a cooldown, its a joke.

Blast finisher happens in starting point of jump. Flash news.

Dynnen.6405:

Yea, kinda hard to run GS with Hammer when you are running staff like 90% of the Guards

1-3 guardians with GS+staff. Try to watch some GvG, if you want to pretend to be a competent.

Someone from SoR who has probably never done anything in a group smaller than 20 trying to talk about game mechanics and competency. I don’t know what is more telling, how little you know about warriors considering it is your main, or how little you know about guardians despite how much you try to compare the two.

Cassiel.8762:

Buffing underplayed builds instead of nerfing overplayed builds results in build diversity. Before this patch’s mantra buff, virtually noone ran mantra builds except as a novelty. That’s not the case now. Nerfing overplayed builds without buffing results in dying classes. Look at how d/d ele nerf killed most wvw eles and made them staffbots. Only with the fresh air buff and certain changes did different builds become alive again.

Tldr; Buffs increase the number of viable builds we can play with which is what we want. Nerfs reduce the number of viable builds we can play with which is what we don’t want.

Mantra of distraction has been in quite heavy usage by interrupt builds since the buff to the damage on interrupt months ago. The problem with mantras has always been there long cast time, not that they didn’t provide useful abilities. Mantras are still considered quite low on the list of viable utilities though despite how powerful their abilities are, due to the excessive cast time and high access to interrupts that exist in pvp/wvw. I do agree that ele got nerfed into the ground and that it was extremely over the top what they did. But the fact is that eles did need a nerf to how much sustainability/damage they had, much the way that warriors are now. I’m not suggesting that warriors should be nerfed into the ground, I just want to see them be brought down to a reasonable point where their damage/survivability is back on par with other classes. This is an opinion from someone who has 7 different classes at level 80 and has hundreds of hours played on warrior, both before the influx of buffs and after.

Evilzara.6378:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Evilzara.6378:

nikkistar.1409:

If some of you BP players are complaining THIS much about YB’s zergs, I hate to see how much you guys will when you go up against SBI and FA….

SBI did outnumber us a lot, but they did not flash build 3+ superior ACs in open field before zerg on zerg.

I’m looking forward to the FA and SBI matchups. We may get stomped by them but we can learn a thing or two.

If you think Yak’s is bad with open field siege, you obviously haven’t fought IoJ enough. It is because of them that guilds existed along the lines of “Main hand ballista, off hand arrow-cart [IoJ]”

I didn’t say you’re bad at open field siege, you’re quite good. The speed you build 4 superior ACs before your 70+ zerg engages 30-40 people is beyond me!

We fought IoJ, before their guilds all abandoned. I don’t remember any open field siege, just 8+ superior ACs on every wall of every tower and keep.

Lol, I’m not on YB, and my statement was intended to mean over the top and obnoxious, not necessarily poor usage. And I guess you just got lucky then in your time against IoJ. Virtually all their large guild groups would attempt to set up 1-2 ACs and Ballista before every open field engagement. Even if the engagement was already heavily in their favor number wise. I can’t say I’ve seen it anywhere near as much from YB, though then again I usually shy away from 40v40 1 spam montages.

Cassiel.8762:

Instead of asking for nerfs for one class, which makes no one satisfied, why not ask for buffs for other classes, which makes everyone happy?

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mindset and thinking that goes into balancing this game and most every MMO today. Instead of searching for a balance between classes and nerfing certain things while buffing others, the majority of the community and devs try to achieve balance by never nerfing anything and just buffing underused abilities or underplayed classes. This is not an effective strategy for balancing any game, instead what it creates is more imbalance as certain class/ability/stat combinations become out of control and way too powerful. If you look at the latest patch for example, there were virtually 0 direct nerfs to any classes or aspects of the game, only some indirect nerfs due to bug fixes that mainly effected guardians. Instead there were a ton of buffs to most classes, which in turn made builds that were already extremely powerful even more powerful, and made the game even more imbalanced.

Evilzara.6378:

nikkistar.1409:

If some of you BP players are complaining THIS much about YB’s zergs, I hate to see how much you guys will when you go up against SBI and FA….

SBI did outnumber us a lot, but they did not flash build 3+ superior ACs in open field before zerg on zerg.

I’m looking forward to the FA and SBI matchups. We may get stomped by them but we can learn a thing or two.

If you think Yak’s is bad with open field siege, you obviously haven’t fought IoJ enough. It is because of them that guilds existed along the lines of “Main hand ballista, off hand arrow-cart [IoJ]”

Olba.5376:

No one is going to be with you because that would be ridiculous.

With a cooldown that long, builds centering on using your Burst skill would effectively die. You would instead see people using Berserker’s Power because there would be very little reason to use your adrenaline short of Cleansing Ire.

And let’s be honest, we spent months talking about how ridiculous Berserker’s Power and Heightened Focus were.

Oh you mean back when no one played a warrior because they all QQ’d about how it didn’t have any sustainability, spammable condi cleanse, or viable condition builds? And the first part of your reply makes zero sense. Why would you stop using abilities like skull crack, or earthshaker, or flurry, or combustive shot, or kill shot, or eviscerate, just because they had longer cooldowns? The cooldowns being low isn’t what makes them powerful or useful abilities. They would still be just as powerful and useful with a 30 second cooldown. The only difference would be, there would be a lot more thought that went into using the ability, rather than, “oh it is up, better use it”.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Welcome to our match-up thread, Crazy. Didn’t expect to see a post from OBS NA in here since we won’t be playing Devona’s Rest in Bronze League Crystal Desert for a couple weeks.

You’re right. Some of what he said does seem just tossed out there. Did you know that 80% of statistics are made up on the spot? Still, he makes a good point. When the populations are lopsided (bet Yak’s didn’t expect this kind of turnout either), there’s only so far skill can go in a game so heavily based on numbers.

@ilr You made a post earlier on about keeping spirit, but that last one doesn’t seem too spirited. I’m not sure if you’re Yak’s or BP. Doesn’t matter. Try to keep that level head. I’d rather read the stuff you’ve been posting that I can agree with than the internet fist fights of those forum warriors who say the same things every match-up thread.

Since apparently everyone has a problem with my signature, and apparently there is some rule where you have to be part of a particular matchup to post in it. I am, and have been on EBay for the last several weeks to get away from the horrible matchups that CD has had lately and to play with some of my old friends from DR that transferred there.

ilr.9675:

I agree it was epic…. though it also obviously made me rage quit.

Here’s why: I was up at a 5:1 KDR in it and I’m just a Clerics Monk and 10:1 on assists. Some of my Guildmates were at 10-1 KDR’s and a couple over 15-1 KDR. I’m happy it worked out for YB’s PvE newbies as well as their recent transfer-ees. Those guys need victories too. If Dying 10x in a row for nothing was fun, everyone would still be doing Tequatl right now. But here’s the issue: When we see numbers like that constantly flowing in to every last thing we try to defend, And TAKING IT ANYWAY …. the game is no longer about Strategy. It’s about GemStore Transfers and the people who go to great lengths in threads like these to justify such a broken meta with outright denial of the obvious.

Posts like these are what I live for… There is just so much to troll about this post I don’t know where to start, but I guess I’ll go for the easiest first. Please explain to me how you and your guild keep track of personal KDR in an MMO. I’ve been trying for years to find a way, so if you would be so kind as to enlighten me to your ways I would greatly appreciate it.

While I do actually agree with some of your complaints, the rest of your post is just so asinine and nonsensical, it overshadows any relevant points.

bradderzh.2378:

He looked at your sig, which says you are on CD. As this is YB eBay Borlis matchup yeah I’d say he was under the impression this wasn’t your matchup…

You know what they say about assumptions.

grabemx.9836:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

grabemx.9836:

RoChan.1926:

lmaogg.7325:

seriously? 15mins ago, our 9 men was just doing havoc at YB’s ruins and capping some towers since we got attention at ruins… and guess what..

Cmon really? let us have some proper wvw fun pls..

Looks to me like you have SW tower and there are people there to take it.

Hey everyone link the rules of WvW! We certainly can’t have anyone breaking the “how to play WvW properly” rules!

Looks to me like he has about 4 maybe 5 guys. Was it really necessary for like 30 Zergsbend to take it? Skill says no, league WvW says yes.

It always amuses me when people make posts calling other servers zergers, and QQing when they get zerged. Every server has zergs, someone more often than others, but it is the nature of the game. If I posted a picture everytime I ran into a zerg while solo roaming, this thread would be at 10 pages by now.

You know what really is amusing? People from servers who used to run at the sight of the “condi cheese necro” come to other people’s matchup forums and crygasming all over it. Listen, get some skill, go gather a few people and take out those 4-5 people attacking your tower. Stop getting into the mindless, “we must assimilate more into our Borg collective” mindset that is plaguing every server- including our own.

Because I know WvW was a poorly thought through concept ages ago of some ANET developer on a Redbull high who recently rage quit a 4 hour Alterac Valley marathon, that still doesn’t mean that we as players can’t better ourselves and not conform to society’s standards.

You seem to be under the impression that this isn’t my matchup thread.

grabemx.9836:

RoChan.1926:

lmaogg.7325:

seriously? 15mins ago, our 9 men was just doing havoc at YB’s ruins and capping some towers since we got attention at ruins… and guess what..

Cmon really? let us have some proper wvw fun pls..

Looks to me like you have SW tower and there are people there to take it.

Hey everyone link the rules of WvW! We certainly can’t have anyone breaking the “how to play WvW properly” rules!

Looks to me like he has about 4 maybe 5 guys. Was it really necessary for like 30 Zergsbend to take it? Skill says no, league WvW says yes.

It always amuses me when people make posts calling other servers zergers, and QQing when they get zerged. Every server has zergs, someone more often than others, but it is the nature of the game. If I posted a picture everytime I ran into a zerg while solo roaming, this thread would be at 10 pages by now.

Kyskythyn.6471:

IoJ capping a point? Not on my watch.

Meteor Shower, Tornado ftw.

Is there really no one else who has seen this bug? Can I get any developer confirmation on this bug and when it will get fixed?

Dynnen.6405:

Score Update? I’m at work atm.

It’s a close one.

Done dozens of tests with this ability since the patch, and its functionality does not work the way it says on the tooltip. It only removes 1 condition on use, and you will only get that condi removal if you happen to be standing in the area that you cast it on. Entering or exiting the field doesn’t remove any conditions for you or allies. I have tested this in SPvP, WvW, and PvE, all with the same effect. While I realize it is probably intended to only remove the conditions on the cast and not from running back in and out, it needs to at least remove the number of conditions that it says in the tooltip, and not only remove 1. As is, this skill is absolute trash, like it was before, and with the fix/nerf to PoV, guardians have been really hurt with this last patch in WvW/SPvP in regards to condition removal.

JahRo.6432:

RazGerb.6173:

Advice.
HoD instead of sending your 30+ VLK full of killshot warriors, try taking back all your keeps instead of just trolling in Eternal, with those numbers you guys could be doing alot more but instead they just run around laughing at our bodies spamming killshot.

This is what happens when HoD is forced to tank in WvW. Did you see yourself in this? IF so, you made good target practice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-We2bnvbvYQ

This is probably the highest kill potential I’ve ever seen from VLK. Though I have to ask, did you actually kill any groups you didn’t outnumber 3:1? Or was the entire night spent portal bombing 1-2 people at a time and running from everything else.

dreztina.4820:

Welp, I already know I can’t expect much from FA, does CD have anyone I should keep an eye out for? Or is this a bum week?

You will recognize some ex DR roamers on CD, repping NA tag. CD has taken quite a hit the last few weeks though, so I can’t say we will have to much coverage.

Oozo.7856:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Being non bias and looking at both EBay and Yaks. You are both equally horrible open fieldwise. Watching you both saying the other is bad. Is like watching a boxing match with a blind guy vers a guy with no arms.

That is all.

Ty

NSP – Best Warbanner Rezzers NA

Can’t argue that it isn’t a good tactic, despite how annoying it is to deal with. Also it is sad that most of those fights, at the least the ones with Holy/tM/SPCA, were ruined by adds from both sides and then sometimes Yaks Bend. Still good fights, good luck with your next matchup.

Gray Fox.9178:

>Yak’s bend relies on numbers and is bad at open field tactics

Sounds OK to me boss. If we assume Yak’s Bend is a bunch of bad players but with a numerical advantage, then I’d say the main focus for the server should be on communication, as you can’t really warp the mindset of a massive wad of zerkers. Better sentry and herald work will do the server the most good the fastest.

In other news, Omega Seige Golems can hold boomboxes. Good times.

Communication doesn’t do much when there is a 50 man blob with omega golems vs <10 people on a map.

dank.3680:

There was no norn warrior.. We had a group of 5, then flipflop™ added on later. That may have been your party (4) but there was several others on your side fighting also. And we wiped you twice, well the second time you ran to the keep NPC’s.. I just find it funny you call out people for switching classes when your thief switched after we wiped you..

Yeah we didn’t have the group comp to fight 2 guard+ 2 ele + w/e else and perplex runes flying out the kitten .. No I don’t care how cheesy your builds were or were not. And deep down, I don’t give a kitten how good you think you are at gw2.

Also the spawn camp came after your zerg ran by and several broke off to join you becoming 8 on your side.. Love the opportune SS, too bad you didn’t turn around to SS the others behind u, how convenient that you also zoomed in your minimap.

Have a nice day.

There were 3 warriors. One with a mask, an asura, and one with a white beard. You also had the mesmer, the thief, and the necro. So already you are lying about your group of 5, and you had the tM necro/guard jump in after the first 3-4 wipes. It must be interesting to be so delusional. You wiped us one time, when we engaged not seeing that the guardian had switched to a necro and when it was next to your sentry. There was only one point at which we ever had pugs with us, and it was after the majority of wipes, but at most it made us even in numbers. You call us out for class switching when you did it first, also 2 of your warriors ran through at least 4 different builds in the hour or so that we were wiping you. I decided to switch to my guardian after every engagement led to me getting double signet of spited, killshot, and focused by your absolutely terrible d/p thief.

You can deny and make excuses all you want, but at the end of the day if you look at your hour spent roaming against us and call it a success, then I genuinely feel sorry for you. XOXO used to be a challenging group to fight, but now it is just another set of free lootbags.

nyckolag.2394:

Lord Galwrath.9302:

Tharros.1843:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Tharros.1843:

Outplayed bro. Don’t come at me with excuses.

Heyyy long time no see buddy, are you still really bad? This thread has done wonders at bringing back all my ol’ IoJ buddies. Now all I’m missing is Giraffe and Sir Laughs a Lot.

I don’t know you, and I don’t want to. Your guild is full of scrubs.

Your friend won 1 duel out of 6 so I think it you will find it is your guild that sucks.

Still beat your guild 3v3.

What was it you said afterwards nyckolaagg? Oh right;

“You guys are clearly the better players.”

Lmao.

lols, crazy how much has changed two months later. I don’t have a doubt that we’re better than you now.

It’s cute though, that you guys say you don’t care – and yet here we are, three (four? I’m too lazy to go back and have a look) pages later. You’re all clearly angry at us, judging by the fact that all your comments are directed in a spiteful manner at us – and that means we’ve managed to accomplish our goal. Have fun, NA, and I can’t wait to get some more stomps off on you in the coming days.

Only thing that has changed is your builds. Your group still pales in comparison to any decent roaming group and it always will. You think my comments are spiteful? Clearly you have never read my posts before. These forums are hilarious to me, and at times a lot more fun than the actual game. The fact that I can say what I did yesterday, and get as many responses and retorts as I got from all your guildies and friends, the fact that your guildies joined our teampseak over the last day in hopes to troll us, and the fact that your guildies have tried to harass and message several of us in game proves who is really angry here. Your guild is a joke, your server is a joke, and you most of all, are a joke.

Keep the posts coming though, it is only Tuesday, I’m sure we can keep this up for another 3 days.

Tharros.1843:

Your guild is full of scrubs.

Yeah, my guys never got around to watching your guild’s guide to WvW, so we will unfortunately never be quite as good as you.

Tharros.1843:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Tharros.1843:

Outplayed bro. Don’t come at me with excuses.

Heyyy long time no see buddy, are you still really bad? This thread has done wonders at bringing back all my ol’ IoJ buddies. Now all I’m missing is Giraffe and Sir Laughs a Lot.

I don’t know you, and I don’t want to. Your guild is full of scrubs.

Your friend won 1 duel out of 6 so I think it you will find it is your guild that sucks.

You do know me, you just don’t want to remember the humiliation of the last time you talked a big game. And again, I find it so ironic how IoJ no longer trash talks about PPT, it is all about them 1v1s now. Well at least it is a change, even if it means they are still trash talking things their opponents don’t care about.

Tharros.1843:

Outplayed bro. Don’t come at me with excuses.

Heyyy long time no see buddy, are you still really bad? This thread has done wonders at bringing back all my ol’ IoJ buddies. Now all I’m missing is Giraffe and Sir Laughs a Lot.

nyckolag.2394:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

nyckolag.2394:

Mayhem.1935:

WHEN I ROAM I LIKE TO HIDE IN TOWERS. NXT LVL TAKTIXX

B-b-but when we came out to find you guys for a 2v2, you kept trailing your zerg.

Thats the ioj counting skills I know and love.

Uhh, I’m not too sure what you’re implying, but my thief and I genuinely went in search of an NA thief and a mesmer, only to find your thief hiding behind a zerg. But sure man, whatever you say bro.

Holy crap, before I thought you were just trying to troll me, but now I realize you are genuinely slow. Your picture literally shows 5 people from your guild (well 4, cause the 5th is to the right a bit). Granted I would usually find your guildies 1-2 at a time, but as soon as they see me they run for the others until it is a 5v2.

nyckolag.2394:

Mayhem.1935:

WHEN I ROAM I LIKE TO HIDE IN TOWERS. NXT LVL TAKTIXX

B-b-but when we came out to find you guys for a 2v2, you kept trailing your zerg.

Thats the ioj counting skills I know and love.

Cynz.9437:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Cynz.9437:

on the other hand i saw more than enough of CD (including NA) and BP running for their life from us even if we had even numbers so i think we are even here :P

Yup.

and that suppose to prove what?

where am i on this screenshot!!??? i don’t see any thief IOJ legend >:(

Whoooooosh.

Cynz.9437:

on the other hand i saw more than enough of CD (including NA) and BP running for their life from us even if we had even numbers so i think we are even here :P

Yup.

nyckolag.2394:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

I’ve never seen fotm carry a group as hard as it carries roam. And apparently cause I choose not to fight them 1v5 I’m classified as “Running back to siegerazer”. See the joke only works when it is IoJ and you run from any fight that you don’t outnumber 3:1. And tell your thief there is more to s/d then spamming 3. He might spend less time on the ground then.

I’m glad we made you angry enough to post on the forums about it. <3

Looking for 5v5’s to anybody interested.

Totally mad right now, not just incredibly bored with everyone that I run into being either garbage or garbage getting carried by fotm. And I’m sure some of my other members would gladly 5v5 you. I personally will pass cause structured fights are already boring enough without the ZZZZZ of bunker condi fotm.

I’ve never seen fotm carry a group as hard as it carries roam. And apparently cause I choose not to fight them 1v5 I’m classified as “Running back to siegerazer”. See the joke only works when it is IoJ and you run from any fight that you don’t outnumber 3:1. And tell your thief there is more to s/d then spamming 3. He might spend less time on the ground then.

grabemx.9836:

Oh and to clarify, I never regarded NA as some kind of scrub guild nor any kind of super group, it’s just that prior boasting didn’t make sense to me based on previous encounters. Trust me what I say this with all sincerity, I have much more respect for CD/BP and our battles than the jokefest of the past few weeks. especially against Blobbluff Isle.

We never claimed to be the best. 90% or more of our “boasting” is just giving people incentive to come fight us rather than hide in a tower or zerg. Nothing gets people to come try and kill you like calling them bad. And if we happen to lose and people kitten talk us back on the forums about it, then it just gives me more things to read in my free time.

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Kyskythyn.6471:

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Fact of the matter is, I’m not the only person to stroll across a duel…or an obvious dueling area and partake or choose to pass through only to be ganked by NA players (the guild). Whether respecting the possible 1v1 situation or actually getting in on the action, NA players habitually jump in and gank anyone and everyone and it has very well been noted by the IoJ Fight Club/1v1 Community.

We wiped a fight club last night because of it. And I promise you if I find another one full of NA ppl I’ll just assume it’s some people that want to die and respond accordingly.

You can pretend to be a 1v1/Fight Club bunch if you want, but your actions have spoken louder than anything on these forums.

How am I to tell the difference between a random 1v1 and a duel if you fight in the middle of a contested area?

If people from three servers are standing around watching 2 people from 2 of those servers fight…that’s a great sign. Pretty much a “Ok it’s a fight club keep it moving”. Except the “Oh great NA is ganking me from behind as I tried to just pass on through” happens.

Or better yet “ok here’s a duel spot, oh he bowed at me let me return the bow and go at it. K he’s down OMG WHY ARE ALL THE PPL ATTACKING ME ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WERE JUST WATCHING!!!1!!”.

You tracking yet? It doesn’t matter what situation the location is in. It’s simply a matter of the three servers behaving in a manner not expected by anyone who’s just there to wvw. Fight club / Duel bros know the scene when they see it.

When people not involved and pretending to be spectators jump in and stomp the people actually fighting….that’s sad. And guess what…..NA does it.

Anet does too….cept maybe that was just the SBI dev who tried to tell us we were breaking the rules…and then we stomped him out again. You got Anet bros in the guild? That might explain it.

Just gonna throw this out there. If you want an uninterrupted duel, go to the windmill, or any other place on the map that doesnt have thousands of people run through it on a daily basis. The fact that you are so kitten over this is hilarious. And the fact that it is IoJ who is complaining about ruining 1v1s just makes it so much funnier.

The fact that the windmill was the first place this happened deems the rest of your nonsense invalid. Second was at ruins, third was windmill. Kthx.

Point blank and simple, if you want to have a fight club have one. Not a “OH SNAP DUDE IS ALMOST DEAD JUMP IN A GET HIM” or a “OH SNAP DUDE WON AND IS CLOSE TO DEAD SO LETS STOMP HIM OUT” club.

Many people have seen it, talked about it, and been upset about it. And it’s the same guild every time. Server origin has nothing to do with it, guild origin however does. NA jumps and dumps people clearly in 1v1 fights. Nothing more nothing less, and I’m not the only person to see it happen. That’s the base and source of all of this. Police up your people or deal with the kittenty rep…I don’t care either way. Just know..that we now know….you aren’t worth our time. Chime in when you have something a little more conducive next time…plx.

If you are at windmill, I can assure you that no one from our guild cares enough to go there just to stomp your garbage kitten . Anywhere else, and you are free bags. I’m not going to tell my guildies to only engage once they are sure that it isn’t a 1v1 duel. And it is ironic that you would call out our guild on this, considering a majority of the members find 1v1s fun and we host/attend fight club ever Thursday. It is also quite ironic to hear this type of complaining from you, after all these months of chest thumping the IoJ zergball and how good you were at beating DR in ppt. Now all of a sudden it is “roamers are best, 1v1 me bro”.

Grow up and play the game, you are going to die and it won’t be fair, it never is. And if you want to see us kick your kitten in a “fair” 1v1, I’m sure many of us would be happy to oblige.

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Kyskythyn.6471:

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Fact of the matter is, I’m not the only person to stroll across a duel…or an obvious dueling area and partake or choose to pass through only to be ganked by NA players (the guild). Whether respecting the possible 1v1 situation or actually getting in on the action, NA players habitually jump in and gank anyone and everyone and it has very well been noted by the IoJ Fight Club/1v1 Community.

We wiped a fight club last night because of it. And I promise you if I find another one full of NA ppl I’ll just assume it’s some people that want to die and respond accordingly.

You can pretend to be a 1v1/Fight Club bunch if you want, but your actions have spoken louder than anything on these forums.

How am I to tell the difference between a random 1v1 and a duel if you fight in the middle of a contested area?

If people from three servers are standing around watching 2 people from 2 of those servers fight…that’s a great sign. Pretty much a “Ok it’s a fight club keep it moving”. Except the “Oh great NA is ganking me from behind as I tried to just pass on through” happens.

Or better yet “ok here’s a duel spot, oh he bowed at me let me return the bow and go at it. K he’s down OMG WHY ARE ALL THE PPL ATTACKING ME ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WERE JUST WATCHING!!!1!!”.

You tracking yet? It doesn’t matter what situation the location is in. It’s simply a matter of the three servers behaving in a manner not expected by anyone who’s just there to wvw. Fight club / Duel bros know the scene when they see it.

When people not involved and pretending to be spectators jump in and stomp the people actually fighting….that’s sad. And guess what…..NA does it.

Anet does too….cept maybe that was just the SBI dev who tried to tell us we were breaking the rules…and then we stomped him out again. You got Anet bros in the guild? That might explain it.

Just gonna throw this out there. If you want an uninterrupted duel, go to the windmill, or any other place on the map that doesnt have thousands of people run through it on a daily basis. The fact that you are so kitten over this is hilarious. And the fact that it is IoJ who is complaining about ruining 1v1s just makes it so much funnier.

Spazzoni.1703:

Pentzski.4620:

Spazzoni.1703:

Boi!!!!

I love enemy Hax. Love Anet even more for doing nothing about the hack issue.

NA, I’m looking at you.

wut

Did I stutter?

Engi, Mesmer, later an Ele…

See, once you play the game long enough, then find the website/video’s, you can kinda pull it; Out of the Crowd.

Please show me these videos about working hacks in guild wars and what they do. I would love to see them. Also you say you hate drama, yet that is all you created, you have no proof of anyone hacking outside of you coming here saying “HURR DURR YOU WERE HACKING!”

Gab Superstar.4059:

So… I’m guessing this is too good to be true, but are the Sore Coatriders leaving DR? I have heard whispers of it flying around.

If so… Oh man…

I can’t believe it is actually true.. The hypocrisy is just so rich and beautiful to taste. And so is all of their pent up anger that they are holding back by not responding to your post.

grave of hearts.7830:

Beeing on 3rd floor i got a pretty good view on whats under me,and i did came down and sweep after the wall breach was repaired to 40%
Nameplates are permanent on at my settings.
North side had scouts already,so there were eyes on that section as well.
I ported out to block the bp zerg that creeped in jerr about 6 mins later,and that momment we saw in the chat that mesmer popped in the middle of the yard out of thin air.
Now how about putting your insults aside as far calling me lazy,and start providing a reasonable explanation on where could a mesmer hide in a yard full of npc’s and players actively checking specificaly for a mesmer.
It would be even better if i could hear this from the mesmer who did it himself,and not from any kind of sheep that heard there is a portal to inner and just jumped there to get the wxp.
And if you want me to find someone to swear the mesmer appeared out of thin air,il see what i can do.
Can you swear you didnt capitalise on a glitch abuse?

I can imagine this guy playing Where’s Waldo? as a kid and freaking out after 5 minutes cause the book is cheating and he doesnt really exist.

To bring some logic into your mindless drivel:
1) Did you actually see the mesmer glitch in, and do you have screenshot or video proof of said glitch?
2) Even if you managed to get his name, what exactly are you going to report him for? Gold selling? In case you haven’t noticed there are no reports for hacking/glitching on the report menu.

I mean, as much as I agree with everything you posted Oozo. Devon Carver has made it extremely clear that he and the rest of the WvW anet devs don’t care at all about what the forum community has to say about the changes they make to WvW. They are under the impression that we are of little to no significance to WvW as a whole, and that if we don’t like what they are doing, they couldn’t care less if we stop playing. They are literally waiting until people stop playing WvW and numbers significantly drop before they stop this progression. It is sad that they don’t realize, by that time it will be too late. WvW will have just become another part of GW2 PvE endgame and nothing more, and all of the players that cared about PvP in any competitive sense will have moved on.

For anyone who hasn’t yet seen it, this is the post I am referencing by Devon Carver: http://i.imgur.com/mjR9txU.jpg?1

Stormleaf.1769:

I find it amusing that the game is suddenly shattered for so many over something as insignificant as a 0-150 point increase in stats. I simply can’t believe that people who honestly and legitimately enjoyed the game prior to the buff are unable to logically enjoy it now. It seems far more likely that they’re simply being disingenuous, for effect.

From this post and your first post I can assume that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. This is the type of response I would expect from an Anet dev that only plays WvW a few hours a week, and does nothing but run around with a zerg. The fact that you think that 150 to all stats is insignificant shows how little you understand about combat mechanics in this game and PvP combat in general. Also your assumption that everyone went from 100% happy with WvW pre-patch to now being 100% kitten ed off shows again how little you know about WvW and this community. There has been a constant string of complaints stemming back for the last 13 months about things that need changing and fixing to WvW, however this was something that has pushed many over the edge with Anet. This patch implemented something that was fought so hard against by literally every single person who cares about even remotely balanced player versus player combat in WvW on any scale. The fact that it was implemented shows how little Anet cares about their core WvW community and how little they understand about balancing a game and its mechanics.

To me this patch is the final nail in the coffin for Anet. I am done playing this game on even a remotely competitive or serious level. It is time to start treating it like the casual game it is and move on to something else that isn’t such a colossal waste of potential. If Anet decides to ever admit to their mistakes and starts making changes that actually reap the massive potential that is WvW and pvp combat in this game, then maybe it will be worth taking seriously again.

Joke content for what is becoming more and more of a joke game. 3/5 ruins have easy access to water meaning actually killing anyone is still just as hard as it was before, except now people have even more of an incentive to go there. Why anet thinks that underwater combat is a fun and balanced aspect of pvp is beyond me. The buffs giving a potential +150 to all stats just means that matchups that are already unbalanced just became infinitely more unbalanced. The argument cant even be made anymore to just play the week for the fights when you are at a massive disadvantage to your enemies because of this buff.

GG anet, keep delaying stuff that matters to release more useless and broken content.

Mepheles.2087:

Holy cow [NA] Thats too much Green!

What is this green you speak of?

Waffler.1257:

Finally found a PD that wasn’t nut hugging a group of randoms, unfortunately he was mostly terrible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfFa0awGQqY

Bunker condi necro vs glass necro. There is just so much player skill from both sides in this video it is staggering. It is a truly amazing meta that we play in.

torridstoic.7492:

Who’s Mireille?

Gab superstar

Raiza.6538:

Shout out to the CD hivemind running around your BL, You guys are real good. I mean seriously, I’d have a hard time killing me with 40 people if I were you. Mad props to all of you cool kids /laughing and corpse jumping like its in style!

Special mention to Vexi on DH repping Nameless A(whatever it is – NA) and having CD show up wherever we go! Classy stuff, tell your little Mesmer buddy from CD, I think they’re cute!

/EndSarcasm

Hugs from Cadren!~<3

2/10 post. Attempts to troll were mediocre. Vexi is a friend of ours that has been on DH since we first fought DH 6 months ago on DR. Also, you were sitting by your only tower the entire time we kept fighting you, so I’m confused by how you think we needed anyone telling us where you were. Also what is your problem with us showing up anyways? Do you want to go to WvW and not find fights? Or only ones that you can win against pugs/uplevels.

Mayhem.1935:

Crucify.1649:

Hello everyone! I would like to inform you all that I will be hosting a Fight Club on Thursday afternoon! Information, rules, and of course, location will be given earlier on the day of the event! Another remind will also be given the day before to hopefully promote this event. I hope to see many people there as I saw on reset.

What the? You are on CD?!

We are indeed, transferred last week. Hope you are on more than you were last time you fought DR.

halfsquelch.3465:

I just finished a lvl 48 fractal and the entire party got DC’ed right before the daily chest was about to pop. WTH!!!

Same issue just happened with my party in a level 34 fractal. Can we please get a response from anet about this bug???

Dream In A Dream.7213:

I am not sure if someone will notice, but Gab is in AD which is now playing on EB. Crazy C is OBS, which is on Crystal Desert.
I have not seen your guild yet, but I am giving you props for whatever you do in wvw.
Any guild that stayed on AR and is giving both us and FC a good fight deserves praise.
Please ignore people who transferred to other servers and are here to just stir drama.

This match has been great so far. Lots of fun.

Lion of The Wind
RgTg

Both Gab and I still have accounts on DR that we still use and play on daily, so I do still have as much of a right to post here as anyone else does. Also my post was not intended to troll or to stir up drama, and in fact due to the intelligent and respectful posts that multiple people from TFH responded with, it didn’t cause any drama.

Good luck to TFH in the future, I hope you continue to improve and enjoy your fights.

HatSimulator.9362:

Gab Superstar.4059:

HatSimulator.9362:

i dont know if this is sarcasm or not but none of you pack stability (even if you did we have necros and mesmers to strip it) you dont pack enough numbers (40 isnt enough against 15) you dont plan anything, you all think your silly huge numbers can jsut rush in and spam 1 to win.. then you lose. Get ready for the same thing all week. it’s going to get boring.

Said about every server ever. TFH is just a mediocre guild who runs the same meta European servers ran half a year ago and think they are the next best thing to sliced bread, but then when you go up against your members 1v1 it’s obvious what kind of players it breeds. Just because you are a zergling guild who turns to slightly more sophisticated methods of zerging, doesn’t mean you’re no longer a zergling guild.

I guess I would agree with you on one thing though; it does get boring.

We may use this “old meta” but why change something that isnt broken. When 15 can beat 30, it’s a win for our server and TFH. No one in our guild needs to do what dr, sf, fc, etc etc. do to have fun. You keep your huge zergs, we’ll keep our small group.

We are breeding players that like to wipe zergs and defend paper towers. We are breeding players who want to get good at the games PvP, not PvD

Have a fun week. It’s going to get boring FOR YOU.

Not trying to be a kitten, but since you seem to be a tad to arrogant, let me remind you that you lost every single even number GvG you did against us, and then any other close number engagements we had with your guild in the open field after that. No matter what “meta” you run, any guild group of 10+ on voice comms can wipe a 30 man uplevel karma train; doesnt mean you should post about it on the forums.