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Is their cowardliness greater or equal to that of someone who tells people off but doesn’t say to whom he speaks?
At least the people your not calling out had the juice to speak their minds about who they spoke
I’m also feeling pretty confident that most of them weren’t afraid if people called them to task on their direct commentary.
I’m going to go with: equal. Only because you are leaving and I want to be gracious. I’m done talking with you now. If you want to continue this discussion I’ll be hiding privately behind personal email. where if you make me look bad with superior wit, it’s under damage control.
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Tactics!
You misinterpret cowardice for maturity. While you and yours walk around playing victim and trying to blame everyone but yourself and talking kitten on those who are no longer around to defend themselves, I am simply trying to tell them to grow up and move on. If you actually have a problem with some one, have the balls to say it to them directly, not on a forum thread they won’t read anymore, or a map chat they can’t see anymore. But why do I even bother explaining myself, you are the one who once talked kitten about an entire 300 person PvX guild on a matchup thread for something that 1 member said to you in teamspeak.
Lucky for you, you will get the last word as this is the last I will say on this matter, so give it your best.
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It is sad to see that a number of people and guilds that have been quiet and calm for the last several months decide to take this opportunity to come out and hate on all those who have left DR.So please, keep your cowardly hatred and your backstabbing when you think people aren’t watching to yourself.
is their cowardliness greater or equal to that of someone who tells people off but doesn’t say to whom he speaks?
It is a blanket statement towards anyone who has done these things, either in these forums on in game itself. I still have friends on DR and I still have an alt account there that I go on from time to time, and in the last week map chat in WvW has been filled with ridicule and hatred towards all the guilds that left. In fact a few people I know that were initially staying on DR are now looking to transfer due to this attitude that many people, not just those who frequent the forums, have shown in game. This forum is not a place where I am going to name names or get into an argument over he said/she said. The people who have done this know who they are, and if they really do care about the server and rebuilding they will have to stop before they alienate even more of those who want to stay.
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Can you please for the love of god stop being so melodramatic. This is a video game; people play it to have fun with other people, or by themselves. Literally all of your criticisms are of people who are having fun, and doing so without interfering with anyone else having fun. And then you proceed to say “bottom line have fun.” Being a hypocrite sure makes you look stupid doesnt it. Explain to me how cross server interaction, whether it be fight clubs or guild vs guild setups or even coordinating between servers to do things in WvW, hinders your enjoyment of this game. It doesn’t, and it never will, so stop being so dramatic, stop pretending to be a victim, play the video game, and have fun.
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It is sad to see that a number of people and guilds that have been quiet and calm for the last several months decide to take this opportunity to come out and hate on all those who have left DR. I have never had anything against DR or its players, and I am going to miss several people due to transferring. This isn’t a choice we made due to any problem with DR or our lack of success in WvW. We made the decision to salvage what was left of our guilds before everyone left the game due to boredom. It had nothing to do with DR, just the opponents they were facing. So please, keep your cowardly hatred and your backstabbing when you think people aren’t watching to yourself.
Whahahahaha! Where’s you proof that IoJ is bad? Hmmmmm you in tier 10 right? Whahahahahahahah!
Who laughs like this? Honestly, do you have some sort of mental disorder, or do you actually sound like this when you laugh? I guess the two options wouldn’t be mutually exclusive.
I guess I’m trying to say that if you maintain this “fights > points” mentality 100% of the time, you’re going to start getting drained. Some of your guilds and people that care about points will start leaving. Your pugs will pretty much stop showing up.
See everyone did at some point care about points, and then we realized that the points literally have no end reward outside of silly forum chest thumping, it adds nothing to your experience should you win, you get no great reward or achievement. You get a few extra percents of useless PvE buffs that reset every week and that is it.
The reason that DR is drained is because there is literally nothing left for a lot of us here. The fights have consistently gotten fewer and far between and those that we do get are usually mediocre at best. The best fights DR ever had was back in its worst days of t5 against the likes of Ebay, Magumma, and Kaening. I have never been one to care about losing or quitting should things get bad, but changes need to be made in order for myself and those that I play with to not leave the game due to sheer boredom, and since those changes cannot or will not be made by Arena net, we must find another server to provide us with similar opportunities to those we cherished for months on DRs decline from t5. So I take my leave from DR, probably for good, to find a new home for my guild and my friends from EDGE. So goodbye once and for all IoJ, and good luck to you all.
Wish ppl from DR posting here could back up half the kitten they talk. Its 5:20 pm est and we are still constantly ticking over 500.
Yet another person commenting about the score as if it somehow means they are better players. Thankfully this will be the last time I ever have to see it from IoJ.
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[BS] Basic is hoping for some GvGs 10v10 to 15v15 with IoJ guilds already seen some strong ones out there tonight HARD Core Run.
Also always down for for fun small GvGs 2v2 and up.
Gold for winning you for real Tots? Or is that just IoJ folks….
Lets have a great week of WvW
p.s. Oozo you did the same to BS before camped ballistas and carts at ruins when you had more numbers we attacked with like 6 hoping to get you folks to stop the turtle but you would not leave… perhaps it was not you but it was people with same tag and a char power necro OBS. Point is, chill a bit.
I mean I already know you werent paying attention in whatever fight this was because the only char necro in OBS has being playing condi for the past several months, and he also hasnt been on in several weeks, so if it was recent I have no idea what you are talking about.
Most of what he is stating is from roaming and 1v1 fights which most HARD members don’t do.
No kitten. I never would’ve guessed.
Hey bud, i saw you on your warrior the other night. was letting you do your thing stomping IOJs in IOJBL near south camp.. sorry couldnt be more available this matchup i would have liked to give you a go. Cheers!
It has been a sad and boring week without you and your group. We always had good fights, maybe we will get put together again in the future when you have more time.
Most of what he is stating is from roaming and 1v1 fights which most HARD members don’t do.
No kitten. I never would’ve guessed.
Does the Swindler still play?
I too need to know this.
While it is great to see that HARD and CORE have come a long way in that last few months and are actually decently coordinated, there is a lot more to the game than portal bombs and might stacks that IoJ misses by not having any small to medium size roaming groups that actually require more than pressing 1 to win. Despite DDLG having the equivalent 30-40 man potential zergs, their core 10-20 members have had a lot of experience running with smaller groups and roaming, which makes them a lot more of a threat than just their numbers alone. Defend your zergs all you want and continue to think that small group/roaming gives nothing to WvW, but if you actually care about being more than just a might stacking zergball than you will see there is a lot more to the game. I really dont care about points so don’t think this post has anything to do with DR losing. I, and a huge majority of DR, just wants to see some good fights, and this week has been everything but that.
Also cheers on the win GoM, and IoJ giving us 25 ppt.
So many things wrong with this. CORE is hardly a month old. When we fought you, we didn’t use a portal bomb once last night. We do stack might, but I guess you don’t see the other things we do, such as veil / flank, focus AoE on a group of clumped up enemies, strike and regroup for another strike, etc because we don’t have elitist kittens posting videos about it along with audio commentary. The only time we just mow over you is if you have no chance. If there’s a possibility of losing, we add another layer of coordination. You can’t tell me we used numbers alone to hit you all when you were in our BL.
And you had plenty of good fights. You just don’t consider them “good” because you lost the majority of them. Oh, and thanks, we wanted to make sure your BL had some excitement.
Flanking is part of moving well and being coordinated, I already said that you guys do that, and I know you personally did portal bomb at least one last night because I personally killed you after you did at garrison.
The point I am trying to make is that your group play is great, it is your individual player skill and builds that are severely lacking. The few times that the 6 man group I was running last night managed to actually separate 10-15 of your players, they lost all their coordination and wiped in seconds. The problem is that if all your group does is run 30+ strong they will never learn their individual strengths and weaknesses, which means when you actually fight a group of the same size that has better individual player strength, you will lose.
Also don’t try and assume that I am shallow enough to judge a fight based on whether I win or lose, some of the best fights I’ve had in this game have been those I’ve inevitably lost. However regardless of winning or losing there is no possible way for a 6v30 to be a good fight.
While it is great to see that HARD and CORE have come a long way in that last few months and are actually decently coordinated, there is a lot more to the game than portal bombs and might stacks that IoJ misses by not having any small to medium size roaming groups that actually require more than pressing 1 to win. Despite DDLG having the equivalent 30-40 man potential zergs, their core 10-20 members have had a lot of experience running with smaller groups and roaming, which makes them a lot more of a threat than just their numbers alone. Defend your zergs all you want and continue to think that small group/roaming gives nothing to WvW, but if you actually care about being more than just a might stacking zergball than you will see there is a lot more to the game. I really dont care about points so don’t think this post has anything to do with DR losing. I, and a huge majority of DR, just wants to see some good fights, and this week has been everything but that.
Also cheers on the win GoM, and IoJ giving us 25 ppt.
This is what I imagine ARM looks like playing his ele.
PS, it is worth watching till the end.
The fact that there won’t be an expansion this year, or maybe ever pretty much solidifies there decision to not release any more major content for any area of the game that isn’t living world. If they are going to continue on a pace of new living story updates every two weeks there is no way there will be any worth additions to WvW, or any other part of the game for that matter, for a long time.
KoM has achieved the title of best roaming guild NA in my book. Wins 6v7 fights for 10 minutes, loses when it becomes 6v12. Farms 25 stacks and brings in 4 more people, wins 6v12 until it becomes 10v12 and loses, goes back to farming coyotes for stacks again. If that isnt the definition of a top tier roaming guild, I dont know what is.
You mean you guys were sitting in npc/cannon range at bay from our 6 until you had 10-12 at which point you would push out just a bit, but still in range to run back into the cover of your npcs/cannon?
You guys finally pushed in when you had over 12, 4-5 necros alone against our 5 who went back into the camp when some NSP were trying to flip it.
Well done on the 12v5? Maybe you can manage with 10 if you try a bit harder next time.
I guess I missed the day in school where this picture shows 5 people. This is after we ran away with 4 of the 5 people in my party where you came back in 4 more and wondered why we didnt want to fight you 8v7. There were 2 necros, a thief, and my mesmer. I know it is quite confusing to new people that a mesmer isnt actually 4 people, but 1 person with 3 clones, so maybe that is where your math went wrong. Also tell whoever the warrior is in this picture that they should know that leading with shield block when entering a fight isn’t how you warrior, unless it is you, in which case LOL. But what do I know I click my skills and keyturn
Why are you on the forums complaining? Did your feelings really get hurt or what? I really want to know what fueled this? No one said anything about OBS.
Your SS really shows nothing. You have 5 in your group. There is a green dot in the tower and one dead in the field. So that right there is 7…. One PAXA is a clone and another red name is a pet lol. Looks almost even or at the very least a good fight…
Did KoM come to the forums braggin about destroying your guild or talk kitten when you sat in your bay/briar on siege with even/+ numbers? No, didn’t think so. Is this a poor attempt to make a name for your guild? Yes, I believe it is.You’re the guild leader according to your signature….. They must really look up to you when you come to the forums and kitten and moan. When school is out and you play a FTP MMO the kitten really seems to pile up.
Maybe instead of acting like a kitten on the forums you should message someone in KoM and set something up. You obviously have some kitten issues and want to prove something…
As I said in my last post, KoM is baby PAXA. They brag about being the best ever, and when you find them in open field they are mediocre to bad. You don’t have to instigate something specific to get called out on the kitten talking you did in the past. As for the screenshot, it was meant to counter your assertion that you had 4 people, when you clearly had more than double that. None of my posts have had any QQ in them, or complaining, just simply stating facts and opinions. You are attempting to deflect with things that don’t exist to avoid the fact that you are actually a below average roaming guild. Please learn how to forum warrior better.
KoM has achieved the title of best roaming guild NA in my book. Wins 6v3 fights for 10 minutes, loses when it becomes 6v5. Farms 25 stacks and brings in 4 more people, wins 10v4 until it becomes 10v6 and loses, goes back to farming coyotes for stacks again. If that isnt the definition of a top tier roaming guild, I dont know what is.
Ha good one. Someone must be angry they died
Never died, just bored, and expected a little more out of the cute little baby PAXA guild.
KoM has achieved the title of best roaming guild NA in my book. Wins 6v3 fights for 10 minutes, loses when it becomes 6v5. Farms 25 stacks and brings in 4 more people, wins 10v4 until it becomes 10v6 and loses, goes back to farming coyotes for stacks again. If that isnt the definition of a top tier roaming guild, I dont know what is.
You mean you guys were sitting in npc/cannon range at bay from our 6 until you had 10-12 at which point you would push out just a bit, but still in range to run back into the cover of your npcs/cannon?
You guys finally pushed in when you had over 12, 4-5 necros alone against our 5 who went back into the camp when some NSP were trying to flip it.
Well done on the 12v5? Maybe you can manage with 10 if you try a bit harder next time.
I guess I missed the day in school where this picture shows 5 people. This is after you got wiped with 4 of the 5 people in my party where you came back in 4 more and wondered why we didnt want to fight you 10v4. There were 2 necros, a thief, and my mesmer. I know it is quite confusing to new people that a mesmer isnt actually 4 people, but 1 person with 3 clones, so maybe that is where your math went wrong. Also tell whoever the warrior is in this picture that they should know that leading with shield block when entering a fight isn’t how you warrior, unless it is you, in which case LOL.
KoM has achieved the title of best roaming guild NA in my book. Wins 6v3 fights for 10 minutes, loses when it becomes 6v5. Farms 25 stacks and brings in 4 more people, wins 10v4 until it becomes 10v6 and loses, goes back to farming coyotes for stacks again. If that isnt the definition of a top tier roaming guild, I dont know what is.
Fun fights with XOXO and PAXA tonight in DRBL. Looking forward to more through out the week
It looked like HOD had SM so easy because no one was inside, then BAM out of no where they boiled in like fire ants!
Nice Mac bro.
We won.
Selfish builds vs builds that add to the group/fill a role others cant. This is not a reference to Oozo at all, but others.
There are many roaming guilds on DR that would be better, if they did not have players running selfish builds, run away builds or overly bunker builds. If I said it once I said it a million times, you have to risk dying to win vs good groups far to many seem to think getting away while your group a fight they should of won is a win.
Alot of these fights are so close 1 person could of turned it with correct utilities and small trait changes but filled their bar and traits with run away skills or self defense skills.
/shrug
Not really sure who you are referencing. I know of almost all of the roaming groups on DR, at least the ones that still play, and I can’t think of a single person that plays a selfish build, or at the very least doesn’t have a specific role that they fill in a group. Overly bunker builds are not bad builds in any sense as they provide a source of damage mitigation, especially when considering the 5 man AoE cap. Personally I run a support build on my guardian that also has the added bonus of being exceptionally bunker just because of the way that healing power effects guardians. I would still run the build though even if I wasn’t as bunker just because of how effective it is in a coordinated group composition. On the same note, overly glass builds that you might consider selfish are also extremely viable in coordinated groups. As long as those playing them understand their role and have good positioning and combat awareness so as to not die instantly.
Hopefully that helps explain some of the builds you might be seeing in the groups you fight against, and understand why they run what they run. I can tell you for certain there has never been a successful roaming group that has just been random builds with no coordination and purely selfish play. Also if you have any specific groups/guilds in mind that you think implement your aforementioned style of play (selfish builds etc), I’d like to know who they are, because I personally can’t think of any.
Interesting amount of SF that chased 5 of us all the way from Rogues to Anz. I guess I just smell that good.
Also some fun fighting against ET tonight in EB. Nice 15 minute fight over golanta.
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Zerg guilds complaining about servers that have larger zergs.
OBS and EDGE are quite the zerg guilds. I think tonight between both of us and Bsty we had 12 people. Granted we enjoyed wiping groups of 20-30+ all night, so if that is your definition of a zerg than I guess you got us there.
Fun night of zerg surfing both ET and SF. SF seems to have really gone down hill in terms of skill and players since we last fought them though…
OBS is looking for 5-10 man GvGs, if you are interested pm me or whisper me in game.
Congrats on zerging down garrisson with 30 against our 5 IoJ.
So is this a thing now? Chest thumping your nightly pvdoor for weeks, and then when you lose your fairweathers coming to the forums to complain when no one from DR is chest thumping.
Maybe this is why IoJ has trouble holding their BL. 20 people chasing 2 people from NN to NE sentry, only to have half of them die falling off the cliff.
OBS is looking for coordinated 5-10 man groups to do GvGs with. Don’t bother showing up if you have a “one and done gg scrub no-re” attitude. This is meant for learning/experimental purposes. Whisper me or mail me in game if interested.
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I find it sad that you decided to fight Neeho’s battle for him, and also write an inappropriate wall of text regarding SoCo vs DR, something that doesn’t belong in this thread, hence my response to Neeho’s original post being so negative. Learn the place and time to say things, a matchup thread with two servers that have nothing to do with DR is not the place to complain about internal relations on DR.
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We fell from t4 to t6; we faceplanted to t7 when a few of the larger guilds decided to quit for a week to throw the game. I don’t think HoD has the quitters that we have. All their quitters were nice enough to leave the server; ours are still here.
Cause SoCo has done so much to help the server in the last 6 months. Every attempt to work with SoCo in order to get the server more coordinated has been met with constant complaining and disinterest. And then you come on the forums and bring up events that happened months ago, that weren’t even true when you argued about it then, for what purpose? So you can try and alienated yourself even further from the core of DR? I have no idea what your guild stands for and why it is even still on this server after months and months of negativity on the part of DR and those who have worked to make it better.
@ BP, enjoy the win this week, I hope at least the last 11 weeks since we last fought the potency of your roamers have increased after fighting Ebay for so long.
@ HoD, after wishing for a matchup with you guys for a long time now, it is sad it won’t be a very competitive one, with such a massive difference between BP and us.
In general, OBS is looking for 5-10 man coordinated groups to do GvGs with. This is purely for learning and friendly competition, don’t bother coming if you are going to trash talk/whine and complain. Message me in game or send me a mail if you are interested, best time is usually mid-late NA primetime.
And whether you want to admit it or not, your NA primetime has received a significant boost since we last faced you, whether it is transfers, your uplevel zergs finally hitting 80, or increased PvE involvement, you easily put up similar numbers to DR during NA primetime now.
Pfft, I’ll admit that IoJ has more during NA primetime now; fair is fair. We definitely don’t have the outmanned buff nearly as much anymore, if at all. But the fact that you KNOW that we used to have fewer numbers just reflects badly on you since you apparently had no problem talking smack back then about a server you outmanned. Now we’ve got more players to play you on a more even footing and we’re roflstomping you in points, but can you take the loss like man? No. Instead, you kittening whine about night capping. What a steaming load of kitten.
But you know what? Keep telling yourselves this matchup doesn’t matter. Or that you don’t care about points (though the amount of debate in this thread over whether this matchup was fair or whether the win means anything suggests you actually care a lot). Whatever helps you preserve your fragile egos.
DR never kitten talked IoJ until well after they continually complained about nonexistent double teaming and DR playing for second, despite DR constantly targeting the #1 server in the matchup week in and week out. During our matchups with DH and EBay, I always told people to stop hitting IoJ when they got the outmanned buff in EB, because even if they were to get wiped off the map, we might hold those points for 1 tick before the #1 server came and zerged them and our side of EB.
And I really don’t understand why it is so hard to grasp the concept of people who don’t care about points. My posts in this thread have nothing to with my care or lack there of for points, it is only responding to those from IoJ who feel the need to flex their door fighting abilities.
This CrazyCanuck person has the ego the size of an airplane.
Seriously in all of my post i tried keeping it clean yet DR whines and throws excuses and BS from first pages. Crazy, if DR dominates us SO MUCH during NA prime as you describe it the scores wouldn’t be so far away from each other, how difficult is that to understand? And you calling our Oceanic presence massive? LMFAO I guess 20 players is considered big since DR has barely some players around, and if they have 10-15 during that time they are all spread out on all 4 maps.
Our NA still holds you guys up, YES your NA prime are slightly bigger and decently more organized. So complaining and saying the only reason we are winning is ONLY because of our oceanic is wrong. I’ve ninja’d DRs EB keep multiple times during NA, just to prove my point.
I expected since you are a commander to have a lot more sportsmanship here instead of insulting and throwing excuses right off the bat.
Have yet to complain about you having an oceanic presence, just responding to the incessant “IOJ IS SO GUD GUYS, WE 695 DR EVERY NIGHT, IOJ VS DOORS, IOJ TOO STRONK”. Look at any of our matchup threads against Ebay or Magumma where they had a MASSIVE presence lead over DR, yet they never bragged about the point lead cause they understood the main reason for their significant point lead was their coverage difference. You will not find a single post from any of the main DR forum posters complaining about their said coverage, just like there aren’t any posts in this thread complaining about the coverage. Everyone on DR realizes that the only way will ever win a matchup is if we fight 2 servers with just as little coverage as us and we can beat their primetime. Your NA primetime does get beat, virtually every night, sometimes by 200+ points, which is actually a challenge for DR, when compared to IoJ oceanic door battles. And LL keep has yet to be taken during primetime.
As far as me being a commander, I give people the respect they deserve, both friendly and enemy, and I have yet to meet anyone from IoJ that is deserving of respect, especially on the forums, you included.
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Really growing to like you OBS guys, always a good laugh.
I have not noticed/heard of a single new WvW guild IoJ has gotten during NA time.
Did you stop to think that maybe the outmanned buff we had was because we were to busy fighting the top server in their borderlands whilst you lot cherry picked our corner/borderlands?Both DH and SF had very low oceanic presence, theyre all NA servers as well, why cant you guys do all that well against them?
I really want to verse GoM and/or NSP to see how good their oceanic coverage is to beat down the almighty DR
DH has low oceanic presence.. wow.. that is a kittening joke. They literally got 90% of their points from their oceanic coverage. It was a daily occourance to wake up to no borderlands or EB after logging off with all of it. And we never faced SF, last time we faced SF was in October. We beat nsp every week, because they had 0 night time coverage. We lost to GoM cause they have a solid NA primetime and a bit less oceanic coverage than DH. And whether you want to admit it or not, your NA primetime has received a significant boost since we last faced you, whether it is transfers, your uplevel zergs finally hitting 80, or increased PvE involvement, you easily put up similar numbers to DR during NA primetime now.
This thread is priceless. After MONTHS of DR talking smack to IoJ back when we were stuck in the DH-DR-IOJ matchup, Dr shows their true colors the instant they start losing. Yes DR, your losses are all because of our Oceanic presence, and nothing to do with you AT ALL!
Stay free.
That’t probably because for months and months we continuously stomped you. Congrats on your improved NA presence since last we fought, it’s is nice to not see the outmanned buff on IoJ during every single primetime. Also congrats on remaining to be the only server below t4 with a massive oceanic presence, maybe now you guys can stop dropping after 5 tiers and actually go back to being a solid higher tier server. Unless DR gets massive oceanic and EU transfers of at least 50 or so people, we will never survive again above t6/t7. Every one is entitled to their own opinions but there is only so much a 6 hour NA primetime can accomplish, no matter how good it is, there are still 18 hours in the day.
Oh, I see. You’re just mad that we’re not always outmanned and you can’t zerg farm us for easy badges anymore. You can wave charts in my face all you want, but i hope you realize that those charts also show that you aren’t able to beat us even when our friends down under aren’t there to help us.
You can trash talk all you want, but don’t get mad when it’s shown that you can’t back it up.
The “charts” in fact show that you get smashed every primetime, despite easily having the numbers to to hold your ground or even continue to lead. GJ interpreting my post to be an insult to, but since you are going with that theme, Ive still done more badge farming this week against IoJ than i have in any other matchup.
This thread is priceless. After MONTHS of DR talking smack to IoJ back when we were stuck in the DH-DR-IOJ matchup, Dr shows their true colors the instant they start losing. Yes DR, your losses are all because of our Oceanic presence, and nothing to do with you AT ALL!
Stay free.
That’t probably because for months and months we continuously stomped you. Congrats on your improved NA presence since last we fought, it’s is nice to not see the outmanned buff on IoJ during every single primetime. Also congrats on remaining to be the only server below t4 with a massive oceanic presence, maybe now you guys can stop dropping after 5 tiers and actually go back to being a solid higher tier server. Unless DR gets massive oceanic and EU transfers of at least 50 or so people, we will never survive again above t6/t7. Every one is entitled to their own opinions but there is only so much a 6 hour NA primetime can accomplish, no matter how good it is, there are still 18 hours in the day.
Seems like you’re having a blast typing out a documentary . We have 21. 3-4 pugs. Just before we got to bay we were fighting a few ad/qq/btsy. Didn’t know they were gone.
21. I lold. adnoqqbsty had 10-15 running and your group was easily 2-3 times larger than them, your zerg was consistently popping swords with just attacking 1 person or doors. Accounting for 5 or so people not participating in attacking, that means you had at least 30+. And regardless of the numbers, how do you justify the joke of the siege placement that you were commanding (catas for gates, trebs for reinforced walls when the gates are paper).
Edit: Ya, thats definitely 21 people. 10 seconds before the tail end of them made orange swords killing one DR.
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Lets play the game, how long does it take HARD to take a paper bay with 0 supply when they have a 40 man group vs 15 DR. Will be posting updates. So far 3 catas and 4 arrow carts on HARD side gone.
Edit 2: Currently Trebbing a paper wall with 3 trebs from SW tower. Pictures to follow soon
Edit 3: After losing the trebs with 40 people in the tower they realized it was a paper keep again and just zerged rams, currently in inner. Total siege time of 45 minutes so far.
Edit 4: An hour later they managed to will themselves through 2 very strong paper gates with only 8 flame rams and pull to victory through the horde of DR defenders to claim Bay keep in the name of IoJ!
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But they said they never play for second so we must believe them!
Ya thats why we have 100 more ppt than IoJ in that screen, and you are only 35 ppt away from ferg. And every single night this week we have taken at least your hills if not the entire map, and SM from you. We hit both servers just as hard with just as many people, it just happens that ferg has less players than you do, so their map falls easier/faster.
GJ capitalising when we’re at our weakest
It may not be our weakest per-say
Ya, I’m done with you, kthx.
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You currently have less potential in your BL than us, and there is no ferg presence. You are getting stomped even numbers, just like the last two nights. I havent even loaded into ferg bl once this entire matchup, and i know the majority of the main guilds are hitting ioj during primetime. We have never played for second in any matchup, and we never will. And there have been several points during the last 3 nights that you have had ~100 ppt while DR has 350+. Your BL defense is hands down the worst of any server I’ve faced, despite having 40-60 on it everynight.
40-60? Yeahno. We were doing great before, the defense is not going to be great around the clock.
GJ capitalising when we’re at our weakest, now dont blame us when we get 500+ppt later tonight and increase our lead on you
So weak. Literally no one on right now from your server. How do you guys manage to do so well with so few people?
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You currently have less potential in your BL than us, and there is no ferg presence. You are getting stomped even numbers, just like the last two nights. I havent even loaded into ferg bl once this entire matchup, and i know the majority of the main guilds are hitting ioj during primetime. We have never played for second in any matchup, and we never will. And there have been several points during the last 3 nights that you have had ~100 ppt while DR has 350+. Your BL defense is hands down the worst of any server I’ve faced, despite having 40-60 on it everynight.
So youre saying we have over 100 people in WvW at the moment over 2 maps? Thats hilarious. If you guys are beating those kind of odds, you deserve 700ppt.
BTW Strength doesnt always mean numbers, theres a lot of strategy in WvW too, especially siege placement. Where and when to attack, how to defend certain places. There is NO WAY Hills can be flipped if theres 50 people defending it…Unless you golem rush it without them noticing but even then thatll get scouted. So please put some logic into your post and dont over exaggerate it to put down our server.
I was referring to about 2 hours ago, and your bay was taken by a 10 man guild group while you defended your hills, and then your garrison was taken by a large golem group while you had at least 40 defending 20 at NW tower, and then Hills was taken shortly after while you tried to retake garrison. You easily had 50+ on that map, and since I was flipping between IoJ bl and EB I saw the size of the zerg that lost SM to Ferg and it was easily as big as the bl zerg. Continue to deny your lack of a NA primetime presence equal to that of us or ferg, whatever makes your late night pvdoor feel better.
Weakest moments indeed, a massive 50+ zerg on your BL while you lose it all and an even larger zerg on EB while you lose SM.
I know of a few people/commanders on IoJ that have been waiting for this moment, to finally stomp DR into the ground!
Just look at how hard you are stomping when you can’t just fight doors. So wait, you guys actually need commanders to put down flame rams / golems at empty keeps/towers? The few times I’ve seen DR have random late night coverage, 5-10 people have taken an entire map with 2 golems and no commander. But please keep patting yourself on the back about pvdoor victories, it makes the primetime stomping against even numbers that much more enjoyable.
I saw [NoQQ] Last night in FC BL roaming, didnt end to well for me regardless to say :P
DR why must we start the name calling and poo flinging so early in our match up? At least DH and SF were respectful towards us. You all just act childish cause we night cap you. I guess ill need to repeat myself. It has happened to every server we’ve ever faced, not just you. and if you dont care about points so much, why must you complain about us night capping, and “Zerging”, our “Zergs” are still smaller then DHs ever were.
Talks about being respectful, meanwhile the kitten flinging was started by several members of IoJ who felt the need to chest thump their late night pvdoor as usual.
No one complained about night capping, we just responded to the kitten talking and chest thumping that you guys did after your night capping. Look at our threads with GoM, they night capped every day and no one cared cause they kept it quiet and even admitted that it was the only reason they were winning.
ANYONE from ANY server that complains about those that play outside of the apparent “only important time” that is the NA prime has their head so far up their kitten they can see their own teeth. One player’s “night capping” is another player’s prime time. NA prime is NOT the only time that matters, quite often is the time zone filled with the largest portion of brain dead morons following the blue Dorito and 12 year old chest thumpers, they are the truly arrogant ones because THEIR time is the only one that matters, and anyone outside of their playing period is apparently ALWAYS bad, not important and arrogant? Hmmm I guess I shouldn’t expect any different considering America is the KING of arrogant, self righteous, stuck up, bubble world, loud mouthed morons am I right? Although I do know that’s overly harsh as I’m sure it’s just a vocal minority but for those that are vocal it stands true.
You mad bro? Typical responses aside, NA primetime tends to mean the most on NA based servers, go take your argument to EU servers. Also implying that people who play NA primetime are from America just brings your statement about morons full circle. I know several Aussies and EU players that play during NA primetime, and there is also more than 1 country that shares NA primetime, hence why it is NA and not American primetime.
I saw [NoQQ] Last night in FC BL roaming, didnt end to well for me regardless to say :P
DR why must we start the name calling and poo flinging so early in our match up? At least DH and SF were respectful towards us. You all just act childish cause we night cap you. I guess ill need to repeat myself. It has happened to every server we’ve ever faced, not just you. and if you dont care about points so much, why must you complain about us night capping, and “Zerging”, our “Zergs” are still smaller then DHs ever were.
Talks about being respectful, meanwhile the kitten flinging was started by several members of IoJ who felt the need to chest thump their late night pvdoor as usual.
No one complained about night capping, we just responded to the kitten talking and chest thumping that you guys did after your night capping. Look at our threads with GoM, they night capped every day and no one cared cause they kept it quiet and even admitted that it was the only reason they were winning.
Only one day after reset and we got the famous “We dont care about points!” Comment lol
Do you think we magically changed our opinions on the matter just cause you weren’t in our tier for 5 weeks?
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