Guild Wars 2

starlinvf.1358:

Mordremoth didn’t feel like the real threat through most of that story, because the threats weren’t directed at you, so much as it was directed at your companions.

Well said.

Vayne.8563:

For example the modremoth fight in Dragon Stand is much better and more interesting than the one in the story.;

I agree.

I finally got around to doing Hearts and Minds last night. The HoT story was entertaining, albeit short. One thing I bothers me is that unlike the personal story and season 2, this story did not feel epic. It felt out of proportion to the threat Mordremoth posed. Also, I understand that with deaths that occurred during the story it ended on a somewhat solemn note, but defeating Mordremoth should have felt at least a little victorific.

As I start season 3, I hope it brings back that sense of an epic tale.

Reef Drake -> Red Skelton

I’m just barely old enough to know who he was.

Djinn.9245:

DeadTreeJig.6714:

Excellent Name.9574:

What went wrong with HoT, IMHO, and should never be repeated:.

1. HoT was worth the price, I never expected a discount. I can’t complain about new players getting core+HoT (or core+Hot+Exp2) at the same price. It’s Anets game to price, if I don’t like the price I don’t have to buy it. But if I do buy it I really shouldn’t complain because I did after all agree to the price (reminds me of the parable in Matthew 20).

Actually, you can complain about anything Also, complaining about something you already bought but then found cheaper elsewhere is perfectly legitimate. That’s why you see stores that guarantee if you find it cheaper elsewhere they will refund you the difference (or some such).

You’re right. I suppose I could have said that I choose not to complain, but that makes me sound like a snob, so I will stick with being incorrect.

Excellent Name.9574:

What went wrong with HoT, IMHO, and should never be repeated:.

I’m going to chime in because…. well, no real reason…

I consider myself a casual player. I average an hour a day, I suppose that’s casual (see #6).

In my opinion…

1. HoT was worth the price, I never expected a discount. I can’t complain about new players getting core+HoT (or core+Hot+Exp2) at the same price. It’s Anets game to price, if I don’t like the price I don’t have to buy it. But if I do buy it I really shouldn’t complain because I did after all agree to the price (reminds me of the parable in Matthew 20).

2. DLC vs Expansion, HoT was both, they are not necessarily distinct. Of course that wasn’t the point of the OPs statement. For this I refer back to my opinion of #1.

3. Subjective. They felt short, but I still enjoyed them and did not feel slighted.

4. Also subjective. I am a fan of more open spaces.

5. Could be a legitimate concern. Aside from my main (ranger) I tend to kill off my characters after a while, though I have taken a liking to my asura guardian.

6. I suppose a distinction needs to be made between being a casual player and playing casually. To me a casual player is someone who spends more time killing things than creating builds, crafting, farming, etc. I view playing casually as wanting to play without the fear of dying. For the former, HoT is fine. For the latter, I hear Queensdale is nice this time of year. (sorry for being snarky)

7. I can’t comment on this as I never noticed it.

8. I don’t PvP enough to comment on it.

9. Same as #8.

10. Well said, I would have to agree (again, sorry for being snarky)

“Old thread, not dead”

After I finally got a black dye I grabbed a pair of shades and gave Miseria a new look

Miseria Athel, Norn Reaper
Aviator Sunglasses
Cleric’s Exalted Mantle
Seer Coat
Conjurer Pants
Soldier’s Conjurer Shoes

Donari.5237:

So if you are on NA and can play during afternoons/evenings eastern time, shoot me a PM. We can figure out a time when I can help you through the story, including Hearts and Minds. Which I refuse to solo, I did so just once and even on a Reaper it was tedious beyond belief.

Is that an open invitation? I finished Buried Insight last night and would appreciate help when I get to Hearts and Minds.

Ngeluz.4860:

I really have made long lasting friends this way… thought it all started we playing together a lot by coincidence…

For me, having a small number (I do mean small) of strong friendships is more rewarding than having many acquaintances. I know some people can have both, or even many strong friendships. I don’t have the energy for that.

On a completely different note, someone in the thread mentioned reviving players. I’ve been leveling an asura guardian and enjoy seeking out downed players to help them out. I’ll even do world bosses just to revive others. I find with the defensive traits of the guardian it lends itself to healing others in the middle of a battle.

Thanks, that makes sense. And here I was thinking that I’d acquired some new skill.

I wonder if it’s a recent bug, the first time I saw it was about month or so ago.

DedTreeJig

Why is this bird flapping over (on) me? (see attached) I can’t seem to find out what causes it. Searching for ranger, bird and animation brings up everything but this. I’ve only seen it twice and once it appears it stays with me until I leave the map.

Can anyone more knowledgeable than me shed some light on this thing?

Thanks,
DedTreeJig

It seems more than I thought level up this way. Since I am enjoying it I will likely do the same for the classes I have yet to play. I think a thief is next on the list.

Rauderi.8706:

And now I have so many tomes, it’s kinda silly to even walk around a capital city before I hit 80.

I have them stacked up in the bank as well. My twin daughters play, one of them just hit level 16 with a Mesmer (they only play for an hour on the weekends) and was fired up to go into a Kessex Hills near Ft Salma (level 23ish if you haven’t been there in a while). I couldn’t talk her out of it so I rolled a new Ranger and tome’d him up to keep her alive.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

…sometimes called, "Living Off the Land.

Much better label than organic leveling.

I’m not fond of the term “organic”, so there’s that.

Anyway… With my previous characters I have used the trading post exclusively to gear up as I leveled. So with my first Guardian (an Asura) I decided to only use dropped gear.

At level 58 this have left me with mix of different level armor and weapons, random sigils and an abhorrent mix of runes. It’s more of a challenge but ultimately more entertaining since I can’t lean on my gear. As better weapons drop I have to learn them, whether I like them or not, in order to survive. Also, since it takes longer to level I find I am enjoying the sights, sounds (dare I say smells?) of Tyria all the more. I know, I could get gear from crafting, but it’s not my thing.

If you haven’t level this way I recommend it, but then it may be that everyone but me already does this.

Anyone else find it more enjoyable to level “organically” (I’m grimaced as I typed that word.)

DedTreeJig

This has been a great thread (I hope it keeps going), I never though it would go past more that a few posts. It’s encouraging to know there are so many others playing the same as I do.

We should form a guild, and then never do any guildy stuff, no chat, no voip, no missions. Just have a tag that so if we run into each other we can /wave or /bow and continue on our separate ways.

Tyncale.1629:

Let me use this opportunity to thank all those commanders that make Open World bosses, zerging and Farms possible for the likes of me. Thank you!

I agree. It allows me to enjoy being part of a group without the stress of having to engage on a social level. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that)

Crinn.7864:

Introversion doesn’t inherently carry over into gaming, and many introverts use gaming as a haven from a world otherwise dominated by extroverts.

For me, my introversion does carry over to my gaming, including text chat and forums. It is rare for me to create a thread, and even more so to post to an existing thread. This may be due having BP as well as being introverted, it can be difficult to tell where one ends and the other begins.

vesica tempestas.1563:

hey OP, in working life i am a lead dev, considered to be a good person, kind and strong – i’m also an introvert and more than certainly high on the Asperger scale, and i play very very similar to you. I solo a lot, but on there other hand enjoy grouping casually often. I actual suspect that the prevalence of gaming from the 80’s may very well have contributed or at the very least gave an avenue for certain behavior to develop over time – so you are most certainly not alone There is however a big difference between being introverted and being anti social and that’s really what matters imo.

I agree. For years I thought I was antisocial, that I didn’t like people. When I learned that I was an introvert I discovered that I do like people, just in short bursts.

SkyShroud.2865:

I assume you meant that extrovert enjoy the feelings of certain things while the introvert may get annoyed and tired of the same things ?

Not quite, it’s not about what you enjoy or don’t enjoy, that’s a personal preference. It’s about where your energy (physical/mental) is gained and lost. I enjoy many of the same things as extroverts, but I run out of steam quickly (quicker than is socially acceptable), and need to go away to recharge. I am blessed to have an mildly extroverted wife that understands this and doesn’t push me into social situations, and if I choose to engage she knows I will need to leave early.

SkyShroud.2865:

I don’t really understand, base on multiple personality tests, I am both introvert and extrovert, something like a middle ground? /shrugs

It’s a sliding scale, most people are within the middle range leaning one way or the other. It’s when you are and the far end that it comes to the surface. This applies to introverts and extroverts. BTW, extremely extroverted people can drain extremely introverted people in a matter of minutes.

SkyShroud.2865:

Pretty sure it has something to do with age and life experiences.

Your talking about psychological experiences, they do play a part. However, introverts process information in different parts of the brain than extroverts. Introverts also have a less active dopamine system. Dopamine is the drug in your brain that provides reward and pleasure, the high feeling you have when something exciting is happening. Because it’s less active in introverts it can cause them become overstimulated by things most people get excited about.

I don’t mean to lecture, sorry. It’s one of those things that are commonly misunderstood since we live in an extroverted world.

ArchonWing.9480:

SkyShroud.2865:

I don’t see how introvert you are when you are willing to start a thread about it.

I think it’s because they treat social interaction like ascended gear. It’s nice to have, but it’s not required in most cases, and it can be quite the pain to deal with at times. Whereas more extroverted people consider it more mandatory and kick people from dungeons.

And just for fun, I wonder if this thing actually works: https://www.uclassify.com/browse/prfekt/myers-briggs-attitude?input=Text

I pasted my initial post… Introversion: 98%

Tried some other stuff, blog posts, emails, etc. Introversion ranged from 76% to 98% with most in the 90’s. What do I have to do to reach 100?

ArchonWing.9480:

SkyShroud.2865:

I don’t see how introvert you are when you are willing to start a thread about it.

I think it’s because they treat social interaction like ascended gear. It’s nice to have, but it’s not required in most cases, and it can be quite the pain to deal with at times. Whereas more extroverted people consider it more mandatory and kick people from dungeons.

Best explanation yet.

Saphykun.3206:

DeadTreeJig.6714:

Saphykun.3206:

it’s a multiplayer game ermehgerd op!

It is a multiplayer game, I mentioned I like that. (Otherwise I’d still be playing Dragon Age… oh wait, it’s not 2009 anymore).

-DedTreeJig

As they say, sarcasm doesn’t translate well in text. I was fully aware of what you said, just wanted to be “that person” first

Thanks for breaking the seal, it needed to be done.

Donari.5237:

In short, accept that you don’t always enjoy fast-paced interaction with others and take control over when and where it happens, and you’ll end up at whatever your personal comfort level is.

Well said.

Menadena.7482:

Interestingly, I prefer living story steps that are in the open world rather than instances though.

I do too.

-DedTreeJig

When I’m poking around in Tyria with no real goal in mind I’ll go to a lower level area to revive people during events. (Is it just me, or does anyone else go online simply because Tyria is the other place you live?)

In the really low level areas I’ll set my pet to avoid combat and I only attack mobs on the fringe so I don’t steal the noobs’ thunder. I am sure it would be discouraging to a new player for a shiny ranger with a flaming sword to come along and one shot all the centaurs in Queensdale.

-DedTreeJig

SkyShroud.2865:

I don’t see how introvert you are when you are willing to start a thread about it.

Introverts can, and do, talk to people. Though I do spend a ridiculous amount of time composing my posts.

At it’s heart introversion is about where you gain and expend energy. Introverts (the minority) expend energy when engaged with other people (socializing) and recharge when alone. Extroverts (the majority) gain energy while engaged and expend when alone.

It’s not that introverts can’t be social, it’s just that we can’t do it for long before we are exhausted. We tend to be selective in how we socialize in order to conserve energy.

I know it sounds like a bunch of carebear talk, but there are actual chemical and neurological differences between introverts and extroverts.

Sorry for the lesson.

-DedTreeJig

I think my initial post miss the mark on relaying my thoughts (or it was just too long, I know I lose interest on long posts).

In a nutshell, I was asking how other introverts play the game. How they balance the fun of playing with others with the expected level of socialization in groups (guilds).

-DedTreeJig

Rauderi.8706:

I get by with a small, quiet-ish guild. RP guild, too, because of a higher likelihood of good writing.

I’ve thought about RP, takes me back to my D&D days. Though the few RP forums I’ve visited seems to be a little to serious for me.

Saphykun.3206:

it’s a multiplayer game ermehgerd op!

It is a multiplayer game, I mentioned I like that. (Otherwise I’d still be playing Dragon Age… oh wait, it’s not 2009 anymore).

-DedTreeJig

This post is directed to other introverts.

<disclaimer>
First I’d’ also like to clear up a few things about introverts (from my perspective) for those extroverts reading this. I am not shy, misanthropic and I don’t live in my parents basement (I AM a parent, and I don’t have a basement). As an introvert (again from my perspective) I don’t enjoy socializing for the sake of socializing. It doesn’t do anything for me, I find it burdensome. There’s nothing wrong with being social and I am glad the majority are, but it’s not my thing. I enjoy spending time with small groups of people in a task oriented setting, and in that setting I do enjoy socializing as a byproduct. I’m aware that I tend to sound patronizing in the way I write, it’s a typical introverted trait when addressing people we don’t know. It’s not intended. And lastly, before you remind me of the word multiuser in MMO let me clarify that multiuser is not synonymous with socializing.
</disclaimer>

How do you other introverts play GW2? Do you play solo, pugs, guild runs, play with one or two other specific people?

I mostly play solo. I look for meta’s and world bosses, I like the dynamics of fighting with a crowd. I really enjoy playing with one or two people I know IRL, but they are not as into the game as I am so it’s very infrequent. I’m not hardcore, but I do play almost every evening.

I’m in two guilds, but other than giving a “howdy” in the guild chat when I get on and the occasional forum post, I’m really not involved. Voice chat in guilds seem to be 90% social and 10% task. Nothing wrong with that of course, that’s how most people are, but again not my thing.

Too bad there’s not a “looking for another introverted player” feature.

Anyway, leave your comments on how you play as an introvert.

(Let’s not make this an “introvert vs extrovert”, “come out of your shell” or “it’s a multiuser game” thread.)

-DedTreeJig

Loch Raven [LR]
Type: PvE
Size: ~15
Active: 8pm-11pm, CST
Sever: Anvil Rock (not required)
Region: North America
Voice: Discord (not required)
Leaders: DeadTreeJig.6714, Zopto.6278

Loch Raven is a small, causal, family friendly guild focusing on having fun. It is a game after all. All are welcome regardless of species, profession, religion or level.

What we do:

• Leveling
• Roaming (dynamic events, killing trash)
• Map completion
• World Bosses
• The occasional Fractal or Dungeon
• Some members do PvP

What we expect:
Guild members are expected to treat other members and players with courtesy and respect. Inappropriate language is not tolerated; if you wouldn’t hear it on the Disney channel you shouldn’t say it to the guild.

We don’t expect you to be online every night, every week or even every month. Life, family and faith come first, the game comes second. You don’t have to represent us, but it’s nice if you do.

We are a casual guild, but we are not a “social” guild. That doesn’t mean we aren’t social, it simply means we focus on playing the game.

If your looking for structured, hardcore play or if you lack patience, we are definitely not for you.

If you’re a new player looking for help, or a veteran looking for a laid back guild, Loch Raven just might be for you.

Contact DeadTreeJig.6714 or Zopto.6278 in-game for more information or if your interested in joining.