This I do not agree with …… “nothing but bad pvpers”.
I have fought some really good players from both GoM and DR, Won some and lost some. But they have some really good players. In fact wanted to give a shout out to the VP thief I fought yesterday at the ruins in GoM BL (I think). Fought for what seemed like forever, finally got downed (Friggin’ Ranger Heal steal, lol), then a polite bow. Class act, I do the same.
Ok I should have said it better..But majority of gom are bad in pvp..ive seen some good ones also. Point I was trying to make was during tkitten no seige bug, Gom kept getting whiped everywhere. Now that seige is back…they r back to trebbing Anz 24/7, trebbing our keep or using golems which fail everytime cause they dont bother to take out oil.
To gom: Dont rely heavily on seige…maybe this is why you are one of the low servers.
And yet…GoM is still winning and has been doing quite well without heavily relying on siege. But, if it makes the pain of watching a server where, as you put it a “…majority of gom are bad in pvp…” easier to deal with…please continue with your dialogue.
Not sure if serious… Your winning because you have more people/better coverage by a pretty wide margin… but go ahead and keep thinking its all skill first time you hit a larger wvw population server a large percentage of your numbers will melt away and then you will see what your made of.
Granted we have a larger coverage, but i’ve not seen a massively higher level of skill from NSP or DR. Certain guilds eg. VP are excellent but i honestly dont see that much of a difference between pugs on any of our servers. We will face a challenge if we manage to get to a higher tier, but i highly doubt our numbers will melt away…
i was running untagged a few days ago with a bunch of pugs, we ran into a group of DR the same size (from what i could tell all pugs with no tag). Needless to say it was a close fight, the pugs went down quickly to the 2/3 superior players in each group leaving them fighting. Certainly some players where more skilled than others, but the average levels between the 3 servers isn’t big enough for us to contrast.
No, we’re not winning from skill, but each server is better at something else. I feel in GoMs case its attacking, even outnumbered in T8 we used to cap more towers, not hold them but cap them.
Tl;DR
Stop comparing skill level with points, with the number inbalance its not fair. But don’t claim that some servers have a higher skill on average, pugs are pugs at the end of the day.
Our GvG fight has fallen through for tonight
PM me in game if you got 15-20 good players that can fight at 8pm EST
/salute
yeh, sorry about that mate. I was looking forward to it :P
/cry
Seems to be something wrong with EB seige, instructing my zergs to pvdoor i’m afraid. Sorry for the delay in taking your stuff :P
Oh please. Do you really think all of our servers are on par with Sanctum of Rall, and the only reason they are the #1 server is because they are oh-so-much better than us?
Server population should not be confused with WvW population. GoM has the best coverage and the best population out of any server in this tier, but of course we have to go and deny it and proclaim we are winning through skill rather than numbers like every other server does. Earlier in this thread there was a screenshot posted where we have 4 commanders active to take a supply camp. Having numbers make you sloppy, that screenshot is a perfect example of it, and just like every other server the fall from this delusional plateau of superiority will be all the harder because of it once we start facing real resistance.Can we just leave all this numbers talk behind? Both the denial from GoM and the accusations from NSP and DR. We all know it to be true, there is really no need to discuss it.
Did i ever say that we where winning because of skill? Our coverage is better and that is obviously why we are still winning. Your just putting words into my mouth. I was merely pointing out that the isssues that us low tiers have can be resolved through guild recruitment and making wvw interesting for the average pve player. Every low tier server has had/or is having this issue, its not imposable to get over it though, thats all i was saying…
… so basically WvW is screwed — unless PvE’ers love the idea of the rank chests so much that they flood into WvW making all servers the same size (not gonna happen).
The servers are the same size though, i just checked. GoM, NSP, DR have the same status of server population, its up to your big WvW guilds to try and get more bodies into wvw. Thats what we had to put up with, occasionally fielding around 10men on the whole of EB when the super adventure box was around, but we got our bigger guilds involved meaning that communication became a lot better, you could see how many people were in wvw. I’m not saying that Anet hasn’t screwed wvw in some ways, but its not a permanent problem (atleast at the moment)
So I just got out of EB on NSP side. GoM has 4 trebs on a hill guarded by a zerg, as they siege our keep. DR is starving our supply, and camping our spawn. Why on Earth is there an alliance like this against the weakest server of the 3? Why do you have to team up against us? We don’t have the numbers, we don’t have the coverage. Everyone is leaving our server because of this. Why are you still doubleteaming us? Why can’t DR and GoM play the game properly and do WvWvW, not 2WvW? Honestly, someone enlighten me! I’ve been skeptical about there being an alliance up until this point. I see everyone thinking they are getting doubleteamed. But honestly this takes the cake. You guys are obviously working together against NSP week after week. What gives?
Wrong. There is no alliance so lets look at the facts. I woke up to you in first place yesterday, that puts me and other commanders in the position of thinking that NSP will be the threat this weekend. For my commanding hours yesterday while you were in first place, ofcourse i concentrated you and the more that DR pushed you the better (reducing your points for us to reach first).
I woke up this morning to see you in second place with a similar amount of potential points as us, its only logical for us to beat down your points in order to get us in a secure 1st place. DR are pushing you because your in 2nd place also (thats not what i’d be doing in their position but whatever).
I’m sure as the week goes on I’ll be turning my attention to DR as they tend to have a stronger day presence than you. When this happens i’m 99% sure that NSP will be jumping on the bandwagon to get back into 2nd place. Its not planned double teaming, but logical warfare tactics.
TL;DR
GoM will push the server that is the biggest threat to first place, for the last 2 days that has undeniably been you (think of it as a compliment). I know it seems harsh, but we were in your position 3 weeks ago, you just got to work with your dedictated wVw guilds to get the ball rolling again.
Leaving EB after a good evenings work. Props NSP, you made us work hard (5 hours or so).
Score and map update included
/ popcorn …. politics but for the sake of the thread score update for those at work school or doin watev they be doin wen not in wvw…
Here you go
(your extra keep is DR’s in EB)
A word from EB. We’ve had a stupid hacker running round from [SOA]. I joined a NSP party to let them know also, keeping people informed. I had all players in my squad report him and then NSP did also.
This little kitten is NOT representative of GoM and i apologise profusely on behalf of all other decent players to any detriment this may of caused your playing.
Once again we’re sorry,
- GoM
Its common sense.
NSP on the other hand, i have no idea. We hit first and it was about a 40ish minute reaction time.
I agree on our BL defence sucks on occasion, we had some strange happenings in EB before i left. It appears HH has returned to what it used to be, that being a killing machine but not actually gaining us that many points.
Maybe i’m wrong to suggest a co-ordinated double team, but from how you rarely touch eachothers towers or keeps, you must understand how it feels to be on the other end of this <3
Someones always getting double teamed at some point most likely isn’t co-ordinated but /yawn its 1:30 am here so gimme one last score update before I sleep please
Your Score updated as requested
In fact, this is the way it is supposed to be. Its nice to see that both DR and NSP won’t settle for playing for second. It will make for a better match-up, even if it means GoM losing first place. I would rather lose a good fight than win an easy one.
It’d be nice to see them actually fight for once, i always just see them dancing around eachother, maybe a supply camp here or there
it makes me laugh how theres not a spot of interferance on either NSP BL or DR BL from eachother. 90% sure this is a co-ordinated attack by your commanders,
But if thats what it takes for you to beat a single server…
(SS from slightly before Honeybuns)
Not trying to bash those who do tap waypoints (it’s a good tactic that takes very little skill, why wouldn’t you use it?), but I do believe that ANet should do something about it.
I agree that it should be fixed somehow, but until Anet fixes it we’re all going to have to put up with it i’m afraid
PS. Your SS told us about the golems
Score update also
10 hours to changeover. Score update for anyone who wants it
Just for you
(next week’s forum post should use the Question layout, so we can bump score updates to the top, just a idea)
One of DR’s sentrys dropped Dusk for me. Thanks for that
<3 <3 <3
I’ve recently come across an issue where i can not activate my tag in Eternal Battlegrounds. I can switch it on/off at will in my UI but the signet doesn’t show up and other players can’t see it.
Occasionally, it even shows the buff but doesn’t actually show as my dortio and vice versa. Its beyond frustrating to try and command like this.
I can activate it perfectly well in each BL and in PvE environments, but the moment i switch to EB it just bugs out.
Some sort of information or prevention would be nice. Thanks in advance.
I didnt mean to be trash talking but w/e. I was mearly stating that it wasn’t the all the information for anyone who watched the video. Anyway have a score update for any stress i may of caused you in typing xxx
One of our commanders pieced together this video of just a massive GoM force being pushed back in our BL tonight.
You guys can field some troops. But it just makes victory all the more sweet when you lose. <3
Mhm, we may of not taken Garrison but your commander seems to of missed the part where you lost a full upgraded bay as well as you losing SM while you defended garrison. Nice to see you post one side of the story :p
Credit to [BOSS] for gathering and commanding that GoM force.
I consider being massively outnumbered at Garrison — with GoM on the inner wall — and not losing it a win. Bay or no Bay. And I don’t give two squirts of kitten about SM. More of a pain in the kitten to hold than anything. But, hey, if you think it’s a win, congrats. Way to throw bodies against doors until they fall.
Credit to [CR] in showing that tactics and coordination will almost always prevail over sheer numbers.
I’m saying it was a perfect assault, i wasn’t there for the whole thing but after losing SM to a golem rush your team obviously wanted to take SM. To think that we ‘lost’ by failing to take Garrison isn’t right, otherwise we’d still be holding them but we obviously did enough as we’re now in first place xD
One of our commanders pieced together this video of just a massive GoM force being pushed back in our BL tonight.
You guys can field some troops. But it just makes victory all the more sweet when you lose. <3
Mhm, we may of not taken Garrison but your commander seems to of missed the part where you lost a full upgraded bay as well as you losing SM while you defended garrison. Nice to see you post one side of the story :p
Credit to [BOSS] for gathering and commanding that GoM force.
Pretty devastated by GoM’s poor midweek performance. Pugs wasting resources and time left right and centre. You guys are deserving your winning currently because your outplaying us. The sense of entitlement that SOME of GoM are having is getting stupid.
Anyway, have a score update. Keep up the good fighting on all sides guys
Score update, GoM are getting back on our feet. Some more players returning to wuv wuv, still waiting on a few guilds though.
I approve of the idea but don’t make it commander only. The last thing we need is a bunch of extra people with tags just for improved view.
Sup all. Nice to join you in T8.
As has been mentioned in previous posts after getting rolled last week we’re still waiting on significant numbers to return to wVw (not a excuse for being last for so long but just letting you know). I’m the leafy commander you’ll see leading GoM around, and the commander that took all FC towers and took ET’s grasp on your keep and turned it green this morning. This is more like the GoM i know.
Personally i’m genuinely liking T8, we seem to have fair battles and a few of us are having more fun here than in T7 especially after last week.
Latest score update attached.
(screenshot on my alt, not my commander)