Guild Wars 2

For WvW, I hate it because I just suck at it. Underwater combat in general, I hate it, not because of Anet, but because it is underwater in general. I must say, I really do appreciate the efforts Anet put out on trying to make underwater combat for interesting. IMO, they did make it interesting, but because it’s underwater it will always be hated.

Back to WvW, I dislike not being able to stomp, and I dislike the player having the ability to move. Althought I can understand why they can move… because of the drowning feature.

Just a little video I conjured up on Game Day in SOS BL!

Nice try on taking hills from us:) Although when I woke up the next day and saw we didn’t have the WP, I got sad inside:(

No you are not. They are restricted in sPvP and WvWvW. It says in the description of them

Last night I couldn’t even see our 6 or so golems that were literally 5 feet from me. It was kinda funny, but very frustrating because I kept saying “Where did our golems go? Oh right there, but that’s only 2, where are the rest? Ohhhhh there we go.. Wait where did the other ones go now?”

I didn’t read the thread, but I’m just going to provide my two cents.

Portals require teamwork and are an integral part of strategic maneuvers. If portals are removed or nerfed to allow only a specific number of players to go through, that may fix some issues like rendering but it will ruin a whole lot more. If you are getting portal bombed, you don’t blame the mechanics of the game, you blame the lack of communications. We have gotten portal bombed numerous times, we don’t wipe all the time. Vice versa.

If mesmer portals are removed or nerfed, that may very well tarnish the already lacking WvWvW community

Thobek.1730:

its quite sad really since a small bunch is giving the entire server a bad name. who knows how well JQ deserves their comeback considering how fast you see those guys cap the tower, they could be doing that everywhere and rushing around to every BL quickly capping keeps. Only took them all of a few minutes, within an hour they could of capped most the towers in all the BL’s.

These guys need to be indentified and banned. zero tolerance for exploiters like this.

This is exactly what I was afraid of, and I am actually quite angry about this. We work hard to achieve a possible comeback and all that hard work is taken away because of this [DEVS] guild that no one even likes or wants to associate with.

elkirin.8534:

I have personally seen JQ Members refuse to defend a tower taken by the often reported team. It appeared to be a group reaction to something.

I doubt JQ has anything to answer for, we (SoS) have faced the identical “things” in other match ups as they moved across the servers. They did not represent the servers they inhabited at those times either.

Good fights JQ and SBI, huge fun again this week. You always fight hard and I hope you are all enjoying the fight, keep up the fun.

Thank you! We try to avoid the towers and keeps that we know have been exploited by [DEVS] so that they can be re-taken as quickly as possible.

But in the case of today, someone said in teamspeak that there was a player already inside a tower we were attacking. Instead of associating with that particular player we continued to breach it fairly and then capped it.

electricblues.1059:

As a member of a large WvW guild in SoS, to all of JQ, we don’t blame you for [DEVS]. Seriously. The only one we blame is Anet for not banning the exploiters yet. This is the top match in NA, you’d figure Anet would be watching it a little more closely.

And not defending the exploited towers is a good idea. I know we at SoS would do the same (Deuce of Atac was NOT exploting btw). It’s nice to see sportsmanship like this. The rest of JQ earned respect from us at SoS.

Thank you!

Guild Wars Fan.3249:

What would be useful tho, is the contact details for some of the other GM’s on JQ so we can message them when DEV exploit in. That way they can clear the keep and let us walk back in to take it afterwards.

This is a good idea! Hit us up at http://www.jadequarry.com/

I’m sure the main commanders, or the JQ community would like the idea and try to get something sorted out as soon as possible.

Articfox.8104:

Exclamatory.8351:

SOS…. SBI….. Nice try on hills in SOS BL. Despite the fact you both were hitting us and breached outer gates plenty of times, we held off your pushes. SOS, you almost had us there, that north inner wall was at about 10%. Really great fight, one of the best I’ve ever had. It seemed like JQ on SOS BL was defending for quite a while. We had a red suit on, in a crowd of black suits all day.

Just goes to show what kind of server we are… Now if only we can fill in the gaps:(

So uh… did you like Team Shatter / True Shatter’s next attempt of our omega rush?
But on a serious note, you did really well defense, that whole map didn’t change for around 18 hours. Very impressed with our competition.

No:( It was fully upgraded

Once I read your post, I panicked and logged in to check if the waypoint was still there. Cursed you!! Revenge must be made!!!!

SOS…. SBI….. Nice try on hills in SOS BL. Despite the fact you both were hitting us and breached outer gates plenty of times, we held off your pushes. SOS, you almost had us there, that north inner wall was at about 10%. Really great fight, one of the best I’ve ever had. It seemed like JQ on SOS BL was defending for quite a while. We had a red suit on, in a crowd of black suits all day.

Just goes to show what kind of server we are… Now if only we can fill in the gaps:(

Fractals?

Seriously?

I didn’t do November’s monthly achievements because of the stupid fractals; I’d rather WvW than PvE

What makes you think I’m going to do December’s monthly achievements?

Gee, thanks.

Just roll an ele and when someone downs you, vapor mist into the enemy zerg so someone else gets the kill rather than the one who downed you:) I do it all the time in spite:P

Wasn’t in EB at the time, but got reports about it.

Correct me if I am wrong: The gates and walls never went down correct?

If so, there is your obvious answer. If not, GL on convincing everyone you waited 2 hours before decided to “pull the move”

Posting in this thread because I think we can all appreciate the answer feature.

Great fights all around in SOS BL between [FIRE] and [Tsym]. You guys were relentless and defended Foghaven with your life. But I must say, half of us were about to call it a night until you decided to 5+ golem rush hills. We responded so quickly we shocked ourselves and roflstomped your golems back to Mars :P That alone gave us the will to stay and keep fighting longer. Long enough to finally break your fully upgraded and seiged camp. We commend you guys for a job well done, I expect to see [FIRE] and [Tsym] to dish it out all week.

Aside from the obvious mesmer exploit in SM, this was one WvWvW reset I’m glad I didn’t miss. I was told the men at JQ BL fended off garrison from SBI and SOS for a good 3 hours or so from multiple golem rushes from both servers. Unfortuneatly one of you guys finally snagged it:(

The annoying thief exploit to prevent capping is making a more and more appearance unfortuneatly, I really hope Anet fixes it.

Keep up the fight everyone, and please try to refrain from using exploits and glitches. It lowers morale when you lose something randomly and then T1 becomes a bore. Just have fun and fair fights. That’s all we want in T1; to keep a hack, glitch, exploit free competetive match-up using various strategies and techniques.

Current score update:

SOS – 9,193 – 290 PPT (SM)
JQ – 7,329 – 185 PPT
SBI – 7,158 – 220 PPT

Guild Wars Fan.3249:

wow…a lot more QQing this week!

I didn’t think SoS was going to pull this one out of the hat. The weekend was a pretty even contest for the most part, tho SBI certainly pulled ahead towards the end of it and continued to do so through the first 2 days of the week (from an Oceanic TZ perspective), but then they just seemed to disappear from that point on. That was around the time that PRX returned in force (I saw a lot of them in FoTM and other PvE areas – a rare sight indeed! – made me laugh as there were a lot of them lfm FotM 1! – obviously having abstained from FotM last week).

On Tuesday night (Oceanic Time) SoS pulled back the differential back from 15/18k to about 13k – by the time I got up in the morning, we were only 6k behind. We all know how things have gone since then. Everytime WM came on the JQ BL map, PRX jumped on them asap, to the point that they would come on for a bit and then go to other maps. That was obviously a deliberate tactic on their part.

SoS has used the fact that there are 2 opposition teams to our advantage. Deliberately not hitting JQ when SBI was on the map – well, not going hard on JQ anyway We certainly made it sure it was easier for JQ to hit SBI than to hit us. Thats just plain tactics. Why would we encourage fights with JQ AND SBI at the same time?

QQing because you are being double-teamed in a 3-way match just makes me laugh. If you are not skilled/intelligent enough to understand that pitting 1 of the other teams against the other is plain common sense, then you need to take a step back an think about what WvWvW is all about. Are you playing for fun? or to win? or to fight a ‘fair’ fight?

At the moment, there are only 2 measures in WvWvW. The SCORE and the RESPECT given to your server by the WvW community. The score is easy to understand and most visible and so is easier to strategise for. Respect is less visible, but still easy enough to measure and influence – QQing on the forums does nothing but lose respect for your server. JQ seem to understand this very well, they bore the brunt of being called JQQ for a long time and dont seem to let it affect them anymore. GJ.

TL;DR: SoS is winning because we are playing the game more/better. Look at the game and figure out how to play it instead of trying to make it fit your views of how it should work (i.e. play the game, not your perception of the game).

I’m from JQQ and I approve this message.

Valleria Darkmoon.4506:

Speaking of poor sportsmanship shouldn’t the title of this thread read SoS & JQ vs SBI? Everytime I log in we can be defending a tower and have both SoS and JQ on opposite sides of the same tower and I refuse to believe they are both there and neither knows about the other. What really boggles my mind though is how JQ puts up with it. SoS is absolutely running away with it getting the bonuses for their server while you’re content to play meat screen and it’s still going to land you in the bottom bracket. But if you want to be the peasants SoS stands on who am I to stop you.

I think it should be fully obvious that servers were not meant to be teaming up in WvWvW but if you’re that desperate to pull us out of top spot I take it as a compliment, so keep em coming.

Not sure if serious, or just dumb

Whoever that stealthed thief was in vale on SOS BL preventing the cap for a good 5 minutes…. don’t pull that crap again. I don’t give two craps if you did that in other tiers, keep it away from T1 and have a good sportsmanship attitude. We capped it, now deal with it

It was an SOS player btw

Really phenominal battle at Garrison in SBI BL. It was an outstanding attempt at defence from SBI. You guys must have pulled everyone from other BL to try and hold that keep. If anyone should complain about getting 2v1’d NOW, its SBI. SOS constantly attacked SOS while we successfully took and held cliffside.

Nice try on the ninja cap on lowlands but we did indeed kick your butts. Eventually you did take it though:( Grrr.

But the fight at Garrison was a memorable experience. You guys successfully defended the keep when we were in the lords room with the ring up. You guys have to say thank you to those few individuals who kept the ring up, we were inches away from capping and then you wiped us. Then, SOS made it to the lords room and once you guys got wiped we were right behind SOS trying to prevent them from getting the cap. Unfortuneatly SOS got it:(

Really, it was an excellent attempt at defending that keep. You guys really did get 2v1’d for a good 1-2 hour(s)

And that 3 way battle where we got sandwiched between SBI and SOS. Wooooooow. We wanted SOS to go in first but they decided to attack us:(

Kelo.4370:

SBI does not have guild map assignments hell I don’t even think JQ does either. We just go where the fights are.

Not true. I know that the dedicated WvWvW guilds essentially do have map assignments. The problem is, our numbers seem to be getting smaller and smaller, and these dedicated guilds (like mine) find themselves having to leave their assigned BL to help out another BL.

Edit: This is strictly JQ’s position

Columba.9730:

too many people grinding the fractal garbage. the game is ruined now.

Very true. I log in for some WvW and all I see in LA is:

LF2M FotM lvl 7
LF4M FotM lvl 4
LF1M FotM lvl 9
LFG FotM lvl 1
Guys come to WvW we are outmanned and need help
LF3M FotM lvl 10
LFG FotM lvl 7
LFG CoF p1/2
LF3M FotM lvl 3
LF2M FotM lvl 15
LFG CoF p1/2
LF2M FotM lvl 13
Is TP down for anyone else?
LFG FotM lvl 2
LFG FotM lvl 10
LF3M FotM lvl 16
No
LFG CoF p1/2

Get the idea? All this game is about now is “Ascension” which takes way too long to even get. What ever happened to “this game is not a grind”. Do you honestly expect me to want to farm the same dungeon for 60+ hours to get an Ascension item? No, I’d rather WvW, but now I have to worry about “Ascension” and “Agony”. Gee thanks Anet

Great fights in SBI Borderlands today. We held off SBI at bay for a good hour or so while ESOL tried penetrating garrison until SBI pulled off. Really great fights and got a lot of badges.

Although…. Argh at SBI for ninjaing some of the towers after FIRE and a few pugs took down the doors:( nice move. I saw you guys run in there, im like “oh haha, yeaaaaa this won’t turn out good”

Current Score:

SoS – 152,313 – 240
JQ – 109,284 – 205
SBI – 106,175 – 250

Okay, here is what happened since I was in the JQ zerg that took the garrison. If memory serves me correct, SBI were the first ones in the garrison while our wall was probably around 30-40%. When we got in, we saw both BG and SBI, but mainly BG. We wiped BG, took the garrison. A few moments later, cliffside was being attacked (at the time we [JQ] had cliffside). At the same time SBI was attacking the garrison. We needed to split our forces between the two, but we still didn’t have enough. We held SBI at garrison for a little while, but then we diverted our forces to cliffside and lost garrison to SBI… we also lost cliffside to BG, but recapped it a few minutes later.

A few days ago, JQ got 2v1’d at the garrison.

Moral of the story?

Servers see opportunities and they abuse them as they should. If JQ sees an opportunity to capture something while BG is focused with SBI, it’s not because we need or want to 2v1 BG, it’s because we are utilizing our resources and seizing an opportunity. Vice Versa.

We all get 2v1’d, grow up, stop complaining, and think of a way to counter it. Maybe you let SBI and JQ fight each other for the garrison next time, and then come swooping in cleaning up the mess left behind. Do something instead of complain about getting 2v1’d which every server in the T1 bracket experiences

BG just did that to one of our keeps in JQ BL

No, this is one of the best things about this game.