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I was there today when you were trolling (or as you like to say, completing the event for those who need it) and nobody needed it. If anything, you made everybody mad and everybody just left to do other things after a while because of you and another troll (who shall not be named).

You just wasted people’s time. I believe you just find joy in trolling and you like to see the reactions people get.

I said it before, and I’ll say it again. Nobody there actually needed the living story completed (or if they did they didn’t say anything and didn’t participate in killing the mobs to not let the Svanir capture the point). People like you are the ones that cause toxicity in these farms.

In every farming group I’ve gone in (okay, not every.. a fair amount though), there’s been at LEAST 1 person willing to taxi people to a fresh map where they can easily complete the event and move on. And I’ve even seen people who needed it completed but didn’t mind the farm because they’re getting gold (and hey, everyone likes gold) and they said they’ll just find an empty map later or something.

Once again, people like you are the reason this harsh language and toxicity is happening (prime example in proof provided by YOU). Worst I’ve seen is people say “omg” or “You can just find an empty map to complete”. And I think you see people saying “Down!” or “Out of the circle!” (something around those lines) as being toxic, which really isn’t.

You’re just a troll who finds joy in seeing peoples reactions. That’s it. Period.

You know nobody needed it because they didn’t say anything? Why would they say anything when others are already getting verbally abused. I advise them to kill the first few waves just like the farmers and then I (or if others wanting to complete the events and don’t care about the abuse) take care of the rest so that they don’t get verbally accosted. So you go on ahead feeling better about yourself that I’m being toxic even though the screenshots prove otherwise. I’ll keep doing the events and honestly it doesn’t matter what the toxic minority or the farmers that scale the events feels about any of this since we have come up with methods to overcome your intentional failings.

The farmers can keep on farming (at least until Anet says otherwise), the toxic ones that are verbally abusive and try to fail the event chain at every step of the way just to spite the people wanting to complete the living story and get achievements are the ones I feel seriously need to be addressed by Anet. Either way, if someone requests I help them complete that event and subsequent events, then I’m going to do such without regard for how I’m perceived. I need not justify wanting to complete events in this game. For in the end for me it’s about helping others and helping a player do their living story/achievements trumps the needs of a farmer, toxic or not.

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I’m not there to instigate trouble, only to help out those in need. Also this isn’t about the farmers or anti-farmers, rather the toxic minority that exist on both sides of the issue.

Nah, you’re there to kitten people off that will not stop until this is nerfed (so there is no reason to constantly troll it). Yes you are trolling, you are purposely going to this place knowing people will get mad and rage at you.

If it makes you happy to believe that then so be it. I know the reasons for doing it and whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. What is relevant is helping those in need and any toxicity will not persuade me from that.

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I’m not there to instigate trouble, only to help out those in need. Also this isn’t about the farmers or anti-farmers, rather the toxic minority that exist on both sides of the issue.

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I like completing the event.

How many times do you need complete it? I don’t mean to make a personal attack but I do question why you are there if not to troll the farmers. I checked earlier and found a map within minutes that was not being farmed and had people doing the event to completion. So I think this thread a bit disingenuous.

So you are saying there’s now a limit to how many times a person can complete events in this game? Then what happens, get labeled a troll? There should not be any event in game where a person wanting to complete it, no matter how many times, should be labeled a troll such as you are trying to do right now with me. So no, I’ll keep completing it because completing events is fun at least to me.

No, there is not. But I suppose you do see yourself as a social individual, no?If not, don’t read further. If you see yourself as one, you should act as one. Let’s say you completed the event four or five times because you like to complete exactly that special events. Thats fine. But up to a certain pointer, as a social individual, you should realise you’re taking the others fun. And a game should never be about taking someone elses fun. That you’re doing that can be clearly seen on your screenshots.
So, now I ask you, how are solutions made? They are not made by a single faction pressing on their demands. They are made by compromises. So, what if you try and focus on finding a compromise between you doing the event and they doing the farm?Let’s say: They help you find an unfarmed server where you can do the event as much as you like. That would require both sides to put in some effort, but in the end, you can both do your stuff.

There should not be any compromise needed in order to complete an event. If taking the fun from people means completing an event, then Anet needs to rework that event when not completing it takes fun from me or others who need it for living story.

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The creation of this thread wasn’t about whether one is better than the other, only to show the toxicity that exists around this event failed or otherwise.

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I like completing the event.

How many times do you need complete it? I don’t mean to make a personal attack but I do question why you are there if not to troll the farmers. I checked earlier and found a map within minutes that was not being farmed and had people doing the event to completion. So I think this thread a bit disingenuous.

So you are saying there’s now a limit to how many times a person can complete events in this game? Then what happens, get labeled a troll? There should not be any event in game where a person wanting to complete it, no matter how many times, should be labeled a troll such as you are trying to do right now with me. So no, I’ll keep completing it because completing events is fun at least to me.

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I like completing the event.

Players mass-reporting other players

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Hi guys. Ever since I started helping a guildie out with her living story I have noticed something disturbing. There is a trend of players encouraging others to “mass report” other players in order to try and get them banned.

My guildie is relatively new to this game. The level of abuse she got recently really upset her, as did players telling her she was going to be banned because them and their friends were all reporting her. Unfortunately, she didn’t take any screenshots – but another guild member did.

Enclosed is a screenshot showing some players threatening to “mass-report” other players. What I’d like from Anet is a confirmation: can you get banned just because lots of other players report you, even if you’re just playing the game as intended (e.g completing an event that others are trying to exploit?) Or can players be banned for reporting maliciously – that is, using the report function as a weapon because they dislike another player/what that player is doing?

I think someone needs to clear things up because no new player should be made to feel awful just for playing the game as it was intended to be played. And players threatening to get other players banned through mass reporting (getting their friends/guild members/the whole map to report one person) seems like very disturbing behavior.

Here’s the collection of screens: [Image Redacted. Do not “name and shame” in posts or in screenshots.]]

How does the community feel about this?

I’ve been posting screenshots that show this as well in another thread. It’s not limited to people trying to mass report others, but a lot of other harassing messages. It’s really sad the way players get verbally abusive in the game. Not sure how Anet can get rid of that mentality. Fixing this farm will just move them to another, just as it has in the past. Anet needs to do something to get rid of this toxic mentality.

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Why does one need to justify them-self if they want to complete an event? They are going to think you are trolling regardless. And there should not be any such events in game that puts people on both sides of it and forces you to justify wanting to complete it.

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You can play the game any way you want. I’m going to keep playing it the way I want without actually harassing anyone unlike the farmers who are harassing me and those wanting to complete it. It goes both ways. You keep on wanting to fail it and scale things up and we will keep completing it because it’s our right to do so. Both of our rights. For us though, we can and will keep completing it by actively playing instead of using passive effects to make it fail.

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I want it completed and that for me is enough reason to complete it. When others want to complete it for achievements or any other reason, that’s also enough reason for me. Most are not going to say they want it when people are already insulting to me and others who are trying to complete it. What would be the point? Get themselves insulted as well?

People innocently standing off to the side? You mean where they can scale up the defend event and passively try to cause it to fail? Thankfully such scale range is limited and I’ve not found the last phases scaled up at all unless enough of the zerg runs in there to passively scale it up to troll those trying to complete the chain.

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http://imgur.com/a/Jw79b

This time they insult another player trying to do the living story. Accused of being trolls, and the classic calls for mass reports. Now there’s a conspiracy of wanting to complete this event is because of bot farmers not wanting to cut into their profits or something. Some don’t understand others have motivations different than their own. Wondering why people would complete the event if it cuts into everyone’s profits.

As you are so eager to help people out. I have gotten a PM being asked to taxi those willing to do Living Story on US. Sadly, I play on EU.
So, if you are really not just there for creating bad atomosphere, why don’t you try helping on US? ;-)

You say that as if people haven’t whispered me already and been taxied in to get their living story achievements. Either way, if you get people whispering you then feel free to direct them to me. I don’t do the event all that often but if I’m in FGS, then I’m probably doing the event and all are welcome to come help complete it and get their achievements. I’ve been saving all three dolyaks almost every time as well for those needing that achievement.

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http://imgur.com/a/Jw79b

This time they insult another player trying to do the living story. Accused of being trolls, and the classic calls for mass reports. Now there’s a conspiracy of wanting to complete this event is because of bot farmers not wanting to cut into their profits or something. Some don’t understand others have motivations different than their own. Wondering why people would complete the event if it cuts into everyone’s profits.

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Another album – http://imgur.com/a/ObKeL

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http://imgur.com/a/z6y9m

Just went back and defended/dolyak/ice totem etc.

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http://imgur.com/a/mvMpS

Here I start out trying to complete the even solo. Toward the end another player saw where I was trying to complete the event and tried to help until he gave up from the verbal abuse. Was still able to complete it but failed to escort the dolyak.

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Gedekran (or should I say “Guild Spy”) — if I recall correctly, you were one of the individuals instigating the toxicity at Blix, so now that Blix is nerfed, you continue to harass farming players at Coil? Do you ever get tired of antagonzing players? Seriously, whatever happened to your concern to “finish” Blix? Are you content with Blix now? I suppose not, since you have moved on to instigating players at Coil (as per this thread).

Thanks for the effort of taking biased screenshots.

By instigating the toxicity you mean by trying to complete an event? By harassment you mean by not engaging the farmers in conversation while actually completing said event? Is there some new requirement of completing events that state you must explain why you wish to complete an event and if it’s not satisfactory, then the toxic abuse and harassment by those wishing to farm the failed event is justified?

I’ll say the same thing as I said about Blix. A player should not feel ostracized for wanting to complete an event.

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Have you tried whispering them? I’m sure they would respond on their living story status and whether they need your help to finish it.

Coil Event Fail Toxicity

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Seems the toxicity that existed during blix has now surfaced during the coil event. When one group wants to complete the event and another wants it to fail, it seems inevitable such toxicity is bound to happen. Just as blix, it is detrimental for all parties involved. Here are a few albums of screenshots.

09/23/2014 –
http://imgur.com/a/X5o2v
http://imgur.com/a/4UWiz
http://imgur.com/a/HVVgt
http://imgur.com/a/doD2n
http://imgur.com/a/0iaLj
http://imgur.com/a/KZ2Pv

09/24/2014 –
http://imgur.com/a/JhIdm

09/25/2014 –
http://imgur.com/a/hvpaW
http://imgur.com/a/WnGw2
http://imgur.com/a/n9xI9
http://imgur.com/a/z6y9m

09/26/2014 –
http://imgur.com/a/ObKeL
http://imgur.com/a/Jw79b
http://imgur.com/a/8gm5l
http://imgur.com/a/K1OUR

09/27/2014 –
http://imgur.com/a/oWemS
http://imgur.com/a/7LsUj
http://imgur.com/a/vSpAz
http://imgur.com/a/ZY2BH
http://imgur.com/a/CXkAw
http://imgur.com/a/5uuRl
http://imgur.com/a/ivY1l

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Snow White and the Seven Dwarves

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Was a interesting time.

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About that blix exploit....

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A player should not feel ostracized for wanting to complete an event.

About that blix exploit....

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Here’s some screencaps where I do not engage the farmers at all in conversation, and instead just try to complete the event. http://imgur.com/a/cgNmN

About that blix exploit....

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All “farmers” that participated in failing this event should be feeling relieved right now. This way Anet gets to fix this exploitative behavior and point to the toxicity of the community instead of calling it for what it was, an exploit on game mechanics. Then banning the people who exploited it, even if temporarily.

PvE Unfriendly fire

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It’s hilarious that OP thinks completing an event is griefing, then comes up with a “solution” to have 40-50 players target a player in order to kill them. Sounds more like OP is trying to grief.

About that blix exploit....

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The toxicity of the community that once existed in Queensdale is as ever prevalent now during the Blix event.