A video of our Boat Party we had today.
So, about that overgrown grub both ebay and mag are fighting right now….
Well… It was fun.
*Thieves. *
They got some nerfs and more buffs. Yes, we indeed asked for this.
And stealth capping is still an issue, but hey – why change when everybody love it anyway?
The reason you made that last stand was because we rushed Hills with golems. The last stand in the lords room was all you had time for.
Eh, I took the screenshot on Friday (about fifth hour of the match), I might be wrong but there weren’t any golems this time.
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Well in that pic, the numbers were pretty equal actually, looking at the minimap, the majority of us is behind you out of the pic.
Equal numbers + siege+ only way to get in are choke points = extreme advantage for defenders.
If the numbers were equal we didn’t have to make a last stand in the lord’s room in the first place.
It has a point, but how many got their icon by this way? Well, besides those who got most their “influence” from guildies.
Most common ways are still:
- Farming / TP
- Gems
- Buying gold
There was zerging on both sides since saturday, you are only making yourself look bad
It’s because I’m perfectly fine with other servers zerging us =)
Besetment
I agree with you. I just asked my question out of curiosity. As I said, it’s kinda odd when you can buy siege weapons for badges but can’t by the icon. It’s not like farming badges is somehow different from farming gold.
Guess I need to ask Anet through support or something…
Phantom
You have a point. And I’d love to see rating/loyalty system in the game, since there’re always 2, maybe 3 good commanders and all other just bought their title for PvE zerging and know nothing about WvW whatsoever.
Maguuma is always looking for new faces.
This match was cake, not because we out-manned anyone, we most certainly did not. We don’t need to be in some massive guild that jumps from server to server looking for wins. We stick with each other, get to know each other, and give it our all.
Love the ninja style, but zerging part is kinda untrue at the moment.
We most certainly started to zerg after Monday-Tuesday – victory was decided, thus more PvE people showed up. Though, judging by this night-morning we became kinda lazy – we lost blue east keep at least twice, and almost whole our borderlands were blue this morning.
Maguuma has most epic and interesting fights when we’re losing and outmanned, so we forced to use superior tactic over superior numbers.
Accomplishments are out of question.
The only thing I want to know is why not badges? It’s WvW currency, and commander title is a part of WvW mechanic. It’s just seems odd to me.
1.) I’d expect anyone to accept a heartfelt complement, regardless of which “class” it came from. Hell, if it came from such an “OP class” wouldn’t that mean more?
2.) I’m playing as a high toughness S/D thief, which is completely different than the oft hated FOTM dagger thieves.
3.) Why the hell should I be hated on because I picked a class style I liked weeks before anyone had any idea of the meta-game?
4.) Why the hell should any of this matter when it comes to being decent humans to one another?
I swear, every game is the same these days….
- Try to play other classes and not to hate thieves during the process. For a person who was killed by your kind more than any other combined, your compliment might sounds like mocking.
- Even more reason to hate you – reasonable defense and still crazy damage.
- Why should anyone who were killed 100 times by thieves in unfair fights to consider your feelings?
- Why people hate cheaters, gold sellers, hackers, trolls etc-etc? After all, they’re humans too, sure they have a reason…
Try to understand others before judge them, or don’t judge them.
So, you can buy siege weapons for badges at the rate of 1 badge = 1 silver.
But you can’t buy commander manual for 10k badges.
Why?
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For fun, simple as that.
WvW is GW2’s endgame. Some people having their robot-fun with farming, but some people want epic fights with other people.
O_o how are people identifying commanders on other servers?
You can see “commander buff” under their names.
- Depends on the match your server having. If the match is even, it means there’s always some kind of activity (taking stuff, defending stuff etc-etc) – stick with your zerg and you’ll earn some exp. Otherwise, if your server is either an underdog who’s having problems or a leader without competition, I suggest stick with PvE.
- If you about events, they’re mostly useless, unless it’s Mercenary Camp event (instructor NPC can show where they are). Simply, in those kind of events you’re fighting for NPC to assist your team (they’ll guard your keeps/camps or attack enemy’s ones).
- NO. In fact, if you farm in WvW everybody hate you and your whole family.
- Nope, there’s only one set of WvW armor and weapons, they’re not particular better or worse, but will cost you more time and effort.
- Yes, except for blueprints – those can be used only in WvW. And badges, think of them like of WvW tokens – you can buy WvW armor/weapons for them or siege weapons blueprints.
- Nope, you’ll have same gear with same stats, only your character’s stats will be higher. You also won’t be able to set up all your traits unless you’re an actual level 80.
- Go to instructor NPC near Asura portals at your spawn, he’ll tell you. Then, hit “B” and check that color you’re (look for house icon near server’s name). After this, open you map and look where fights are going (crossed swords icon). If there’s a blue icon at some of those fights – it means, your commander is near and most likely he with his zerg, go there. Otherwise, just look where all people are going and stick with them. By the end of the day you’ll learn all WvW basics.
I hate this match.
Mag being unbelievable stupid and lazy atm. You, EB, could actually take east blue keep tonight if you have rushed it with 5-7 trebs from NE camp or something.
We got about 10 new commanders from nowhere. 5 commander icons at one place – that’s the point?
PvE people are building golems in the middle of nowhere. Today I was 2.
Sigh..
The only time Mag playing smart is when we’re losing. Now it’s just lazy zerging of PvE people. I’m off for this week. EB, hope you can actually win, because I hate winning in WvW.
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The Mighty Grub must stay.
There’s nothing more amusing than to see a half of enemy’s zerg busy killing the grub. Sometimes I’m running to hit it twice just to get reward and the chest. Best free badges ever.
Don’t you worry your pretty little head, looks like we’ll probably be seeing DH this friday.
During times of events there’s no actually WvW is going on.
I could only imagine what chat was like.
Maguuma side:
- I’m a spy.
- I’m a spy too.
- We all are spies
- Hey, any group is going? I’m a spy.
- You’re not a spy, I know – I’m the spy.
etc-etc.
I don’t know why you are posting those screenshots as if we don’t have collective thick headed moments. Every server has them and everyone should be using it as a learning opportunity, not a chance to roast people who don’t know any better or troll people that should.
You see, it wasn’t one or two trebs.
It were 20 or so trebs in range of our mortars or trebs. I personally killed about 10 of them.
And those people are complaining about us night capping? Here’s a screenshot where we have outmanned buff (btw, there’s another treb on the road).
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EB commander knows how to do their stuff right. It was second treb T_T
Seriously, you can’t blame us for mysterious night capping after THIS.
Sarcasm? Yeah badges are quite useless recently. We need unique armor or weapon instead of badges.
Not really, but I have about 1k badges and quite frankly the best way to spend them is siege weapons, since I can get armor for my alts with karma.
Actually they should just make a rent option for legendaries like they did with Halloween weapons. Let’s say 100 badges of honor give you 5 hours of use.
…Is a supply sink in current state.
You can’t use it during defense because of ridiculous amount of AoE on it. It has strait line of sight, so every single class can hit it without even trying.
It would be nice to have an immunity buff or at least -50% for all kind of damage while using it. Otherwise, only certain guardian classes is able use it twice before get killed.
Ehmry Bay is evening capping us.
you can get a precursor from jp? kitten i’ll have to do the jp more then :P
Mission accomplished.
All hail mighty badges farm!
You might be in stealth and someone still be able find and kill you, this is how condition necro’s marks work against glass cannons.
Many people are complaining about this, and there’re several reasons:
It’s impossible to do because of campers.
It drains manpower from server.
It causes unnecessary queue of useless for WvW people who came to do the JP only because of chest and 0.00000000000001% chance of getting precursor from it.
First problem is just from not understanding the main point of this JP: it’s PvP jumping puzzle. You supposed to kill players from other teams and so you also might be killed.
If you don’t like it, fine. You can stay in stealth almost whole puzzle and get to the chest, there’s a video.
Camping. Every server does that, deal with it. I hate it, but when I found myself killed by campers from other team you might be sure I’ll pay with same coin.
In situations, when there’s only one or two campers you can just whisper (use “report” function to see his name) and ask politely if they can let you go through.
If campers feel themselves safety about you they might actually do that. If you’re not a thief, I most likely let you go.
Another way to deal with campers is just bring some friends. You don’t have friends? Well, wait at the entrance, tell new people about campers and offer to make a group.
Once I saw how a group of 5-8 people who was camped by us quickly built a ballista and made their way by force. That was awesome.
Second problem is caused by all those “JP haters”. There’re always be people who want to do the puzzle no matter that you say. So, instead of raging – help them. How? Find a mesmer or two and start porting people. This way your server actually benefits from the puzzle, because people able to get to the chest in 2 minutes and get 2 free blueprints from it.
In fact, in our server when there’s nothing happens our commanders themselves encourage people do the puzzle. This way almost our whole server can get 2 free blueprints less than one hour. This is why we can throw 4 rams for one gate, build 20 ballistas and arrow carts in one room or make golems rush every day.
As for third problem… Well. Millions of people did the puzzle, many of them doing it daily and we have only one proof of someone who got his precursor. The only cure is campers.
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Speaking of score, I really hope Ehmry Bay will do something about this.
I like our current tier, it might be the best tier ever. It’s competitive, but not at crazy military level and at the same time it’s not a ghost town either.
If we jump two tiers it might cause two things:
Bunch of guilds jump in and hello 2 hours queue.
Or. We get smashed and bandwagoners left us sink.
I don’t mind second, while first might possibly kill current atmosphere on the server. So…
Ehmry Bay. Please. Start winning.
The thing about TAC + assists was that in Ehmry’s opener on blue borderland, they got into a situation where all they had to do was starve east keep to break up our entire quadrant. From east keep they have a safe treb to south east tower and a strong fallback to stomp reinforcements at spawn. It didn’t matter if their thieves died to any of our players as long as they killed the yak. And they did it every 3 minutes on every supply camp that mattered. It was insane.
Nah… They just wanted this dolyak killer achievement.
Don’t feel bad. I tried to make a ballista to kill Ebay’s superior trebs in ruins alone
-Leafy
I saw how you jumped to another borderlands just to get supply for an useless ram on a rock =)
Now I know where thieves hell is – first time I’ve seen so many glass cannon thieves.
Makes me kinda happy about my condition necro build, I can kill them with my marks with all their stealth.
We’re even refreshing it, this must be bannable offence…
Well, bright side of this – we started to use superior siege more often. I doubt we could stop this 15 golems rush tonight without EB showing us how serious they are.
And also ballistas can kill golems. Superior ballistas are really good at this, they can kill like 15 Alpha golems at once.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
no sweep by maguuma… lucky for them im a gaurdian. ;.;
Well, we not really wanted to hold this keep.
We came for blood and fun. We had both, then we left you with unupgraded stuff.
EDIT: Video is not loading up – or super slow
and i would like to watch.
Not much I can do about that, something wrong with your connection or youtube itself.
There’s a video of that happened today in Darkhaven borderlands.
If only I not panicked and follow the group…
Oh well.
Join Maguuma!
Having best match so far.
K those orbs.
Understand it, once again. THIEVES CAN’T DO DAMAGE WHILE PERMANENTLY STEALTHED, OR IT BREAKS THEIR STEALTH.
But you can hold zerg of 15-20 at one point for significant amount of time, no?
Initiative and Cooldowns are basically the same thing, just a different skin. Don’t act like one is vastly inferior to the other.
And to cover the bold part, there is no spamming skills while they are off cooldown. Cooldowns are initiative. If our skills are off cooldown, we can use a bunch at once. If a thief has full initiative, he can use a bunch at once. Same thing.
Well, no. Cooldown is when you forced to wait until using same skill again, when Initiative allows you use it over and over again as long as you have enough Initiative for that.
Thieves have a base of 12 initiative, it gives them an ability to use skill #5 twice without waiting.
Yes, they can’t use all their skills at once, but they can use one most expensive one at least twice in a row.
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Also, my Ele will accept perma-mist form, my Guardian will accept perma-aegis, and my ranger will continue to suck in the meantime to keep things balanced.
^
I’d like to have perma-Death Shroud for my necro and limitless number of illusions for my mesmer.
More than half of all thieves are using only 3 or so skills with some signet and steal. Your class is not required to use more because it can do so much with so little. It’s just like giving warriors spam their sword dance thing 3 times in a row.
Steal. Yes, the stolen necro’s skill is that pissing me off. It’s really annoying that “master of fear” can fear his targets only for 1.5 seconds (0.5 from a trait), when thieves can do it for 3.
Why should I care? I don’t like your class anyway. Play necro and then talk with me about fairness.
Never played WoW, never will.
Seems like thieves having too many so called “main features”: Initiative, Steal and Stealth. Aren’t we fancy? And there’s no other class who can do its main thing endlessly.
Oh, and about “really weak warrior with tiny little swords” part. Really weak warrior with 10k damage per hit, yay.
Siege weapon is becoming serious issue in WvW game play, while siege weapon would be fine if used occasionally, the problem is though that it can be used too often.
Suggestion on how to fix this problem: Healing on Target – every 3rd hit heals your target to full health.
This would greatly help reduce the negative impact of siege weapon while still making it a viable in many situations.
Feel free to discuss ( Trolling is not discussing )
warning: sarcasm.
They can hold a castle if there’s no necro with staff traits in the zerg or enough rangers with traps.
Ok. Now I’m not helping any thieves in my team anymore, k this class.
Maybe I should update my signature…
At the end of the night we had a hell of a three way Stonemist fight. That was hella fun. And after we got wiped inside Dragonbrand almost took our EB Darkhaven Keep by bringing Golems up through our watergate. We fought em off repaired our keep and I finally called it a night. Great matches guys can’t wait till tomorrow to resume the insanity.
Eh, it was Maguuma…
< the only survived golem.
But hey, after this we got Stonemist less than one minute, so it’s all good.
Please, use more auto-targeting, it helps other players kill your group faster.