Guild Wars 2

I’ve logged into DR, and the first thing I’ve seen are people arguing and insulting, while prior to this the map chat was always calm and polite. I’m from Piken Square.

I asked in the map chat who was from there, only three people answered me ‘Piken’. What happened to the ’You’ll be merged with people of your server’ thing? I can’t recognize a single name or guild name, all those people I’m crossing the path of are people I never met, and surely don’t want to considering their animosity or trolling level. And it’s only early noon in Europe, I can’t imagine what will happen during the evening.

I actually can’t understand WHY cities are megaserved. The megaserver was the excuse to make the game feel more alive, for world bosses and game content. I can agree with that, I don’t mind at all crossing the path of other players when I’m leveling. But why, in the name of God, why the cities have to be megaserved? They have no world event, no world boss, no skillpoint. There’s NO REASON for them to be megaserved other than for Anet to say ‘Look, our game is full of players, come and join in!’ to lure naive customers in and rob them from the content of their wallet.

Give us back our cities at least, and stop steamrolling the whole world map into this megaserver stuff that you obviously never tried to fix.

I’ve logged into DR, and the first thing I’ve seen are people arguing and insulting, while prior to this the map chat was always calm and polite. I’m from Piken Square.

I asked in the map chat who was from there, only three people answered me ‘Piken’. What happened to the ’You’ll be merged with people of your server’ thing? I can’t recognize a single name or guild name, all those people I’m crossing the path of are people I never met, and surely don’t want to considering their animosity or trolling level. And it’s only early noon in Europe, I can’t imagine what will happen during the evening.

I actually can’t understand WHY cities are megaserved. The megaserver was the excuse to make the game feel more alive, for world bosses and game content. I can agree with that, I don’t mind at all crossing the path of other players when I’m leveling. But why, in the name of God, why the cities have to be megaserved? They have no world event, no world boss, no skillpoint. There’s NO REASON for them to be megaserved other than for Anet to say ‘Look, our game is full of players, come and join in!’ to lure naive customers in and rob them from the content of their wallet.

Give us back our cities at least, and stop steamrolling the whole world map into this megaserver stuff that you obviously never tried to fix.

velmeister.4187:

Here’s the armor mix ’n match issue I am trying to address.

Left screenie is w/o leggings. Right one is w/ the winged leggings or w/e its called.

Ideally, I’d like something like Viper leggings..

I’m more concerned by the feet of your character to be honest…

Wat?

I’m trying to level an engineer since a couple days, but I must say I’m kind of in the same thing. I’m forced to roam into all the 1-15 maps if I’m not helped by a friend because I have no damage output and no real survivability. I already leveled 4 characters to 80 and kind of enjoyed it (except for the mesmer that was a bit of a pain due to the squishyness, but it was still okay), but right now, sheesh. No trait points coupled with the fact the gears are giving only 2 stats (and weak ones upon that) makes the whole thing just immensely dull and repetitive.

Adamus.1287:

Here is a thought, why dont anet just make, gasp, OFFICIAL role playing servers, dun dun dun, and give free transfers to it and maintain it with the context of it being an actual rp server. Oh right, its because your RP is NOT and this needs to be made very clear, it is NOT an actual function of this game, nor is it any of areanets legitimate concern or responsibility to accommodate and cater for it. Its annoying to see “this hurts RP” and “this will be bad for RP” with what seems like zero regard for how this will help the ACTUAL players, well to bad, companies can not accommodate the needs of people who make up things to do in their game.

Option B
Or, to aid in the current way things work, ask anet to make “channels” for zones, sort of like overflows but you can instead choose to enter it. So for example, lets say that every zone has, ballpark, 5 “channels”, it could be made the standard that, say, “channel” 5 is the RP “channel” in all zones and that if you enter it, you are knowingly and willfully entering a specific RP “channel”, as opposed to RP’ers simply claiming where ever suits them that day as “theirs”. Though with “mega servers” in place now i guess its not really an option.

Any MMORPG includes a roleplay community. GW2 is no exception. And thus, as part of the community, Anet should listen to us equally.

If you actually had a bit of gaming culture, you would know that A LOT of MMORPGs have official RP servers. Because they actually care about all their players and not only the basic ones.

Now, if I may, the door is over there, so I’ll ask you to gently walk through it and close it behind you.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Hystery.8415:

1/ If Townclothes were a convoluted of a mess, Anet should have STOPPED to create some and sell them for gems.

They did, actually. They removed the single-piece town clothes a long time ago.

That’s all you found? Yay, they removed the single-piece town clothes, and left aaaaall the other outfits.

That’s scamming, you can’t even prove the contrary.

Elaine Larion.2859:

Hystery.8415:

Elaine Larion.2859:

Of course new craftabtle legendaries. Everything gemstore related is bad in my opinion. Or it will only feel more and more like pay2win.
If Anet does want to do more money, they should release new campaigns or big payable DLCs with new content (new armor, weapons, maps etc.) instead of releasing everything on the kitten gemstore.

And make the game even more a grinding mess. Good idea.

I didnt say they should make those new legendaries even more grindable.
So you wanna have everything on the gemstore, and grindingthe gold for it instead? Wow, such a better idea. If u want to buy everything, for what reason do you even play?

If you payed attention to my sentence, you would have noticed that I said the GAME would be even more a grinding mess. Because more Legendaries → more grind to get them. Also, I NEVER let know that everything should be on the gemstore. Especially since the only things I bought there were Transmut Crystals and character slots. But it’s fine, keep assuming stuff on people for no reason, it’s funny.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

the way I see it Megaservers aren’t working as they were supposed to be YET. If working properly you would meet more RPers instead of less than before. Imagine you are in RP-guild1. If you load into a Megaserver you’ll be put into a map with those RP-guild1 members inside… but not only this. Now player xy from RP-guild1 is also part of RP-guild2. All those RP-guild2 members will actually be in the same map-version as all those RP-guild1 guys.

In theory this would make your map-version a huge RP-guildX pool. It’s just not working yet, there are reports from several guys on Reddit how they aren’t be put into the same map as their fellow guild-members.

Now let’s be honest. I agree on the fact the megaservers are not working the way they should, just by the problems people are reporting for guild bounties and all. But there’s -no way- a technology could detect who is a RPer and who is not to sort them together. And thus, despite megaserver being a -kind of- good idea to merge people together, it will -never- work properly for the RP community, hence they should implement an option to manually sort RPers together.

They are in vacation. You must understand, after all this hard work for a system that is working perfectly…

/cough.

Phantom.8130:

Have those selections override the current metrics driven system.

What metrics?

budum tss

Elaine Larion.2859:

Of course new craftabtle legendaries. Everything gemstore related is bad in my opinion. Or it will only feel more and more like pay2win.
If Anet does want to do more money, they should release new campaigns or big payable DLCs with new content (new armor, weapons, maps etc.) instead of releasing everything on the kitten gemstore.

And make the game even more a grinding mess. Good idea.

SonicTHI.3217:

Not only that but the stupid in-your-face overflow prompt is still here.

I like your signature.

Nage.1520:

Best update ever. If you’re a person who enjoys roaming the open world, this update is fantastic.

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen this many people on the less visited maps. It really adds to the feel of the game.

And also more lag and less challenge (which wasn’t really high in the first place already), without talking about the friends/guild problems with people not being able to join the same instance.

Yeah really, it’s the best update ever if you are a person who enjoys playing a MMO with no friends, no challenge, and no variety in what to do.

Hamfast.8719:

Awesome! It sounds as if someone is back from vacation, and putting the brakes on things before they slide completely downhill! Yay!

They said it’s only to correct a bug. I doubt it’s anything like you mentioned, even if I myself hoped for it.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Kallandra.2610:

After finding out that you only get guaranteed Transmutation Charges from completing the 4 main cities, and that any other map completion there’s only a small chance of getting -1- charge,

Assuming they straight up replaced the old 3-stone reward for map completion with a 1-charge reward, you’ll get plenty of them.

Gwen.7981:

The million-dollar question is this, what was the point of dropping the old town clothes system?

Town clothes were a convoluted mess of a system, and Anet salvaged the parts that worked and jury-rigged a solution for the handful of bits and pieces left over so they wouldn’t be completely wasted.

In the same way, they took non-combat items, which were a confusing hodgepodge of items that could be equipped and items that had to be used from the inventory for no apparent reason, and made them consistent.

Hamfast.8719:

Also, you missed one. If they insist on Outfits for the future, they need to retain their dye colors. Right now if you switch Outfits, it loses the dye scheme you applied and goes back to the default colors.

…you realize you have to accept the dye changes for them to count, right? The outfits dye just fine.

You, sir, really think people are mentally challenged.

1/ If Townclothes were a convoluted of a mess, Anet should have STOPPED to create some and sell them for gems. The thing is, they didn’t, and once they got all the money they needed, they ruined them so we can’t have any more use for them. That’s called scamming.

And 2/ The wardrobe DOES NOT keep in memory the dyes you applied to the outfit you are wearing if you remove it from the slot, which was not the case with the old system. The fact that you seem to ignore this shows how few you know about the new system, and thus you should not even be able to comment on this thread.

Create your own group at a time there’s a lot of people, like most likely around 7PM. No way you can get ignored there. Put in the description “Path X, all welcome”, X being the path you wish to do, and be nice to people joining it. That’ll come naturally.

Kulvar.1239:

This good old threat that they’ll lost players… Tip: they gain more plyers, specially if they improve the system, than going back to the old system. Also, if you leave, why loosing time here to say that ?

Hm, well, I don’t know, maybe because they love the game and want to still enjoy it? The threat to leave is actually the last resort of players in front of such a lack of communication and attention from the devs, no need to act all haughty and dismissive and think twice about what you’re going say before posting.

Kulvar.1239:

Go play to your new game ! Oh… It means you didn’t leave and you don’t. You’re just upset that the game evolve and change. But if it don’t change, it die.

Again a fail assumption. We are not upset that the game evolves. We are upset that the game evolves for the -worst-. And if you deny that, you’re just part of those fanboys defending their beloved devs even if they say 2+2=3.

XPGAMER.7324:

What is better than hanging out with Anet Devs on Easter?

Getting answers from them on the forums.

Amen.

(Slight bump, I can’t let this thing fall into third page, it’s not right)

Also, to justify this bump, does someone know when they actually come back from vacation or whatever they are doing? Just to know when we could expect an actual answer to this problem. I know, I’ve hopes, but well.

Doesn’t change the fact that it wouldn’t hurt a dolyak to make the whole interface a bit clearer and more understandable for people.

If you put townclothes, I’m in.

zwierz.9012:

I hope that the silence is because of the Dev’s working on patching up inevitable problems with implementation to begin with, and we will hear from them.

They are in vacation. But it’s great to have hopes.

Nage.1520:

Yes you can hide the gloves and head of a costume, just like you used to. Uncheck the costume slot, turn off gloves and helm, recheck the costume slot and you’ll have no gloves and no helm.

The reason town clothes were discontinued in the first place is because they aren’t compatible, seam-wise, with everything else. The meshes don’t mesh for lack of a simpler explanation. The time involved in remaking those clothes to make them work on five different races would be prohibitive.

The upside is now, when new stuff is released, it will be wearable whenever you want. Yes, it sucks…but in the future, it’ll open more possibilities. Sometimes you have to take the long view.

Sorry but I still don’t see how it is an improvement to have stuff you can’t dye, or barely dye in ridiculous ways, with tonics taking space in your inventory. Short view or long view, it remains one of the worst ideas they ever had.

I don’t know if that’s a good idea to put screenshots of other games in here.

I personally always had transmute stones on map completion of this kind (1-15, 15-25, 25-35), which allowed me to always update my stuff according to my level.

Speaking of which, I’m still searching of how turning the thing off.

Automatic translators never work properly. Look at Google Translation.

So, let me get this straight. They pretend to make the megaserver to group people together so maps look more full, more living. But then they put an automatic hide to people using a different language as ours, which actually separates players like they used to be on their home servers. This motion of back and forth reminds me how we got scammed deep and rough with our townclothes.

There have been changes to the chat? I just logged on after the short update and nothing seems to have changed for me.

EDIT: nevermind, just found out.

Shh, don’t give them ideas.

Hamfast.8719:

Hystery.8415:

Kallandra.2610:

Suggestions

If it’s possible it would be great if we could zoom in on our character in the Wardrobe panel, so that we can see the details of masks and other items.

Also, it would be great if we could see our weapons drawn, like in the preview window, so we can see any particle effects.

You are daydreaming, my friend.

He is ASKING. You don’t know what’s possible and what isn’t. Those features are both available elsewhere (Zooming – Character Creation & Makeovers, Weapons Drawn – any Item Preview). So why not in the Hero pane as well? So negative!

He is asking something to Anet.

Do you see the problem in this sentence? If anything, they are REMOVING options, so they are far from adding zoom and wielding weapons

Kallandra.2610:

Suggestions

If it’s possible it would be great if we could zoom in on our character in the Wardrobe panel, so that we can see the details of masks and other items.

Also, it would be great if we could see our weapons drawn, like in the preview window, so we can see any particle effects.

You are daydreaming, my friend.

I wish I could show you how hype my character was before with his town clothes, but well.

Awbee.8405:

This change to the basic racial townclothes feels, to me, as if they suddenly turned all Cultural Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 armor into undyable, unmatchable, black and red tonics. It’s beyond unacceptable.

You forgot “and lasting for 15 minutes”.

Shyhalu.4891:

Yes how dare I believe that RPers should be treated just like any other player of GW2. The inhumanity. Maybe there needs to be a new thread for keeping communities of people together, instead of just RPers.

Well then go ahead sir, do this thread for keeping communities together.

Oh wait, you are just here to troll people with no arguments, and are only here to bash us for no apparent reason.

We don’t say that we have to be treated better than other players. Though this megaserver stuff is touching us -more- than the rest, since our game style is simply ruined. For people PvPing, they’ll manage to find arenas. For people PvEing, they’ll manage to find dungeons and world bosses, yet with some difficulties, but at least, the stuff is there. For people RPing, we simply -CAN’T- find what we are looking for because of this. Do you see the difference? I bet you don’t, or you refuse to do so because you are only here to bring more hatred and to try to discredit us. Which obviously fails since the beginning considering your lack of arguments.

Now I agree that other communities can be touched to, and if they feel like they have to be heard by Anet, they are free to do a thread on the forum. But the fact is that so far, none of them moved a finger to do such, while us stood here to let them hear our disappointment.

So we officially have the answer now. Two days ago someone was wondering what would happen in the case of a bounty hunt for a guild. Well, apparently it fails.

Really, this megaserver thing is a fail in every aspect.

UncleOris.1892:

But if I had to try and find some shred of a reason, I’d have to go with this: They hope, collectivly, that this thread dies soon. The faster the better.

That way, they don’t even have to come and answer us. They won’t have to explain themselves. They can just keep pretending that everything is amazing.

That won’t happen. I am personally resolute to keep bumping this thread on first page, only to remind them that I’m still here and still waiting answers. I do hope I am not the only one being determined doing that.

Overall it remains such a waste of time. If we think about it, why did they decide to do this megaserver stuff?

They say it was to group people together. for more interactions and gameplay.
I say that the servers are getting empty, and thus they need to regroup people together to hide this fact.

It was perfectly working before, and I don’t remember seeing someone complaining about ‘OMG there’s none on this map! Laaaame!’. They did like the town clothes. They took something working perfectly fine, to kitten it up so hard.

Astraea.2981:

Now to go waste time screaming at the wind about how the Megaserver system is an attack on small-guild RPers.

Great minds think alike. Maybe we should start some kind of petition or something.

Mistwing.3578:

Alright, agreed, but i won’t let this thread fall off front page. If i have to be denied it’s one thing, but to be ignored, that, i won’t stand for.
So keep bumping this thread my rp brothers.

I agree on this, we must keep this thread on front page, at least to show Anet that we are serious, and not complaining lightly.

Forst.5863:

Stop acting like the kittening French Revolution towards us.

I’m french and I find this offensive.

Joke aside, being also a resident of Piken Square, I see so many players having the same feedback as us here. It’s just overwhelming. It’s actually funny that we still have no official answer from a dev with all those negative feedbacks from a rather large community (because yes, to those people thinking that RPers are only a minority, I can assure you we are representing a very good percentage of the total population of GW2).

I invite you to yell your disappointment on this topic

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Game-Updates-Wardrobe-Transmutation-Outfits/page/11#post3914773

before a dev decides to pass by and close your thread. Also, it’ll make the thread I linked bump a bit in the list, and since it’s an official one with thousands of views, it’ll help us letting them know how jaded we are.

Katsuki.1674:

Overall the wardrobe implementation is very satisfying, the account wide skins and account wide dyes are the most blessing features we have in this patch.

And I can use my outfit in combat = awesome.

Thank you.

I believe you don’t quite see the whole thing yet. This thing is flawed.

Arrion.2185:

This thread, it makes me happy!

As a role player myself, on Borlis pass, you should have seen my jaw drop when at two AM I go to Hoelbrak and see people of all races in it. This Mega server may not be such a bad idea as I initially thought.

Oh yeah, I’ve seen such too.

A bunch of players, not RPing, standing still, sometimes trolling other people.

That’s not because there’s more people than before that they are actually RPers. Last night, I posted a /e, I got mocked by 3 people, got trolled by 2 others, and the rest simply didn’t see or notice me due to the heavy spam of the chat box.

Tell me Anet, is that what you wanted, to actually kill interactions between people in a supposed Massive Multiplayer game? Now I’m afraid to press enter each time I type an emote or a reply, fearing that someone will come to ruin the momentum of the roleplay or the ambiance of it. I no longer feel comfortable, nor are my friends, my guild and other RP guilds.

bibakilla.4903:

I really have to say that i’m deeply dissapointed that there is not a single Dev-comment in this thread since the patch went online.

You post in the “Wow, great Patch”-Threads and suggest in small threads, that the comments about the patches belong to another thread.
But no word in a thread with 10 sites full of comments an nearly 27.300 views about the MASSIVE critics here.

Oddly enough, I am totally not surprised by such, I did not expect any less from the devs. Answering on threads congratuling them, but once it comes to receive critics, they poof to nothingness like our town clothes.

ipan.4356:

This is probably the best change in the game, and the only one I am excited about.

Good job, now fix the rest of the game.

I… I think we don’t play the same game.

Snow.2048:

When I read their vague wording in the quotes I posted earlier on this thread, I was worried. But what they did to you guys was even worse than I feared. I’m still rooting for you guys though, whats an mmorpg without RPers!

So glad to see that some people feel actually concerned for us. Thank you very much for your support, friend.

I don’t know, it’s a matter of taste? Why do you like chocolate? Some people don’t, do you ask them why they don’t like it?