Guild Wars 2

cubed.2853:

I like it. New content, new mechanic. Supporting small scale skirmish. That’s exactly what I missed a little bit. I’m so happy to get something like that.
Dear wvw team, please dont forget, the happy people mostly dont write something, because they are happy! I’m an exception :-)

The problem is it won’t support that. Theres nothing stopping people from going there in a zerg. It will just end up hurting the servers with less coverage

DevonCarver.5370:

No. That is not a possibility at this time. The point of the buff is to affect the WvW game mode as a whole disabling it on your character would lessen the value of the buff to a server and completely invalidate the whole point.

Yes. Thats why we want it to get rid of it.

Also to say it is not a possibility is saying you’re unable to change a few lines of code.

Agreed Anet needs to deal with this problem, moving threads and ignoring it is only making it worse

Tom Gore.4035:

Client side my kitten .

Client side for everyone? This issue is server side, and GW2 isn’t the first game to have this problem.

Agreed, but what would be better is removing it altogether

Esuni.2498:

I’m the ignorant one? Show me the proof that 70% of small guilds are GvG guilds. The GvG community is small compared to all the players that participate in WvW, they shouldn’t be denied a fine update simply due to a style of play that was NEVER meant to be played in WvW

Ill just go by the servers that I know personally

Aurora glade:
EB full of pugs
spread over the borderlands: TUP, vcy, FIRE, NR, NP, DAWN and a couple of 5 man guilds
all of the above said guilds GvG. they bring about 150 players to the field total, AG doesnt have queues.
This said, there are 2-3 small guilds that do not GvG, the big guilds are diminant in WvW and do GvG so here you could say its more than the said number.

Far shiverpeaks:
+- 50 pugs total mostly on EB
pvx guilds focussed on pve who only WvW 1-3 times a week and do nto gvg: GOT/GOTD and AoA, these guilds are not very active but bring a total of 60 players to the field on active days, they mostly command pugs aswell.
These people play mostly for points.
WvW guilds are punk, kale and DW they bring about 80 players, all of them do GvG aswell and are considered the roaming guilds there.

I’m fairly certain gandara, Gunnars hold, piken square and augury rock have it similar to this, some of the blob servers have roaming guilds aswell which also, oops, happen to GvG
Roamers want good and fair fights, this is why they GvG aswell.

Now stop looking at your server alone and think outside of your blob servers

To add to this, pretty much every WvW guild on FA also GvG’s. Even PvX guilds like [HOPE] have been GvGing.

Izay.8725:

You have no proof what so ever that most “roam” guilds are GvG guilds so please stop claiming so unless you have actual proof, which you don’t.

The guy named off a bunch of guilds that GvG, and so am I. The only WvW guild on FA I can think of that doesn’t GvG is [CL]. However they could be and I might just not know it, they’re a Spanish speaking guild so I cant communicate with them really. I’m pretty sure most all of our guilds also have over 100 people each.

Izay.8725:

I was being generous with the numbers, I’m aware some guilds have more than 35 members, but most guilds have a set roster for GvG’s, that’s why I clinged to the 35 since most guilds GvG in 15s,20s,25s

I’m pretty sure most all of our guilds also have over 100 people. We also switch people out a lot. So while the battle might be 15v15, by the end our team has fielded 20-30 people.

Izay.8725:

I only claimed 10% of the online population to give some form of an idea. I imagine the number is much greater if you include cusual/hardcore WvWers.

For something to be completely community driven like GvG is, and have over 20,000 people actively participating with little hang ups in a public space, is a huge anomaly. That alone deserves attention from the devs.

As far as the update, as someone who only plays WvW (really I don’t sPvP and I’ve never done a fractal) I think the update is bad for WvW, as well as GvG. I like both, but the update is just a bad idea. It’s not me being selfish of WvW players or anything.

DevonCarver.5370:

We are focused on WvW right now and improving it.

By enhancing the coverage war? Thats all this update is going to do and I don’t think you realize things like that. With the new match-up system this will be worse. FA had to fight CD for nearly a month, they wouldn’t of had a chance to hold the middle of the BL. Not because they’re bad, but because they don’t have the man power to do so. The buff would of made it harder for them to do well, and harder for us to get good fights

Malpractice.7850:

Theyre not adding it to remove GvG, but to improve the incentive to use the new area of the map for the other 90% of the population.

Quit being selfish

But this update isn’t going to improve the map for the other 90%

Quit being a sheep.

mrstealth.6701:

And, as unfortunate as it may be, they aren’t likely to change their intentions for WvW to cater to that community’s needs.

They’re not catering for WvW players either. The new buff will only enhance the coverage war problem, not the zerg problem. This update is bad for everyone, especially servers with low coverage. They should take out the buff aspect of the middle points, while keeping the “stab for points” aspect. Everyone wins.

mrstealth.6701:

Unfortunately, it’s not something they wanted to be in the game. Guilds were intended to be a social aspect, not a competitive one. It might be called “Guild Wars”, but the name is lore reference, not a indication of wars between guilds being a part of the game. It’s quite amazing that this community does exist, but you have to realize you are going directly against the grain on what Anet intended for WvW.

What does that have to do with anything? I’m not shouting “the game is called guild wars, therefore there should be guild battles”. Saying that is arbitrary. What is not arbitrary is that larger 20v20 fights is fun in this game for a lot of people. While it’s called GvG, you could also call sPvP GvG assuming it was two guilds fighting.

What Anet intended is irrelevant, what players want is.

mrstealth.6701:

As someone mentioned above, players tend to not interfere with GvG matches, so I think it’s reasonable to expect the same courtesy from GvGers in regards to the WvW match. The two communities can exist together.

Generally, most GvG’s take place later in the week so it doesn’t matter. Of the 10 or so GvG’s [RET] has taken part in we’ve never had a queue and assuming there was one we’d most likely have to move BL’s anyway.

Also with the bloodlust buff, the two communities can not exist together, as one of the two has been destroyed .

mrstealth.6701:

Stop worrying about so staunchly defending your presence in the WvW maps, and push for your own game mode to be added.

If that does get added, you’ll have a place to do GvGs in peace, and still be able to WvW anytime you want. It’s a win for both sides of this.

Pretty much every GvGer has been asking for that already. The problem is devs aren’t even acknowledging GvG exist, and seem to want to cover it up.

Whats with the GW1 bashing? GW1 PvP was great, a mix of tower defense type play with MMO elements. Was a totally different game but still was the 2nd largest MMO for years. Was also much smaller in budget so what do you expect?

Anyway, GvG is very popular in this game and there are over 200 guilds involved, thats over 4200 people if you only count the people in the match. If you count the guilds as a whole its closer to 20,000 people, maybe more and its growing, and if you count the amount of people that show up to watch GvG’s the number only grows more

Anet really needs to address this. It’s a community made PvP arena that’s somewhat underground, and has that many people interested in it. If they made it official only more people would join in. This has never happened in such a large scale in any other MMO I’ve played. How can they just ignore it?

In all honestly it’s amazing it even works now. Though at anytime people can mess up a GvG, it rarely happens. There’s nothing from stopping the people watching from jumping in, or the other people on map coming to screw with it, but it doesn’t happen. In general It’s respected by players and to me that level of cooperation in a online game with little to nothing being said is amazing and demands attention from the devs

Tarkus.4109:

Just out of curiosity, how many oceanic players does FA run per night? Looking to find some fights this week, and its good to have different competition. Sadly enough I don’t think OC will be a competitive timezone soon as too few guilds still play WvW seriously in GMT+10 (i.e. all of SoRs OC are PvX and get demoralized too quickly if they lose on open field with equal numbers, whilst JQ doesn’t have OC coverage at all). If I wanted to PvE, I’d be playing another game.

Whats Oceanic?

Wintuo.1356:

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Pfft. RE are the track stars of TC. Every encounter I’ve had with RE this week is them turning around and running into a keep with siege. I assume they’re still kitten about the GvG they lost to a PvE guild last week.

Xirin.8593:

Current PvF standings:

Maguuma: 120k
Fort Aspenwood: 100k
Tarnished Coast: 7k

Really? We’re doing that good?

As far as the QQ about numbers, it’s WvW. What do you expect? Balancing mechanics aren’t there on purpose.

Sovereign.1093:

i wish there was this system. you gvg people 15v15 and then if you win or lose the price would be a camp/tower/keep/smc. would be fun. ahaha

Holy kitten TC really cares about PPT.

CAA.9653:

saiyr.3071:

Said while standing next to RET and RAM zergs

It’s true. RET and RAM carry the server. HOPE is a PvE guild just testing out the WvW waters. Especially RAM, they roll 60 deep every night. RET has at least 50 in their zerg. There are other guilds in FA like APS and SIC among others, but all talent-less. You should challenge all of them to a 15v15 or 20v20 GvG. Easy bags.

ZEEEEEEEEEEERRRGGGGGGG

Lately we’ve only had around 20-30. Think some people are burnt out or something

Jayne.8749:

Sorry for taking all the keeps, everyone!

This is like congratulating one’s self for making a basket while everyone else is playing beat the kitten out of each other in open field.

I Iron Monk I.2103:

Heres some love from yaks bend CD i made you a heart!

Sovereign.1093:

man the gates of our keeps are bursting with rocks. funny looking glitch but a glitch non-the less.

Truearrow.3527:

Istaf.1953:

So Mag, TC was trying to copy you’re necro zerg last week. You should show them how it’s actually done.

Oh we will. ;-D <3 Ret

#magswag

What the hell CD, you left us for this bunch? This saddens me. Come back CD, we miss you. TC means nothing to us. Really.

So Mag, TC was trying to copy you’re necro zerg last week. You should show them how it’s actually done.

Seeing how this is the More Official thread, I’ll use this one instead.

EPAM, just saying.

If you’re playing this game and getting upset about being called a nerd you should probably re-think your life.

Oh one more thing that’s been bugging me. TC you really need to work on your video editing. Nothing against TCers in general, but the WvW vid’s you guys have been posting have been kinda poop. Nothing is cool about negatives or using chat bubbles to speak to viewers and if you’re getting less than 5fps don’t bother posting it.

Also skip the PvD parts. I mean really, why do we need to watch a group PvD with 5fps for like 3mins?

kitten , people take it really personally if they’re outnumbered in a game mode that’s purposely not designed to be balanced.

Furiousbeard.7602:

RNG allows more GvGs to happen so I hope it doesn’t go away

Or they could add a GvG game mode.

Equinox.4195:

At least you’re not 50-70 with a majority of your group running Minion Master builds.
Looking forward to fighting you as well.

Oh god #Magswag

My main classes in GW1 is monk and hammer warrior. Monk by far, and seeing how there isn’t a monk in GW2 and how I like support classes more than DPS, I went Guardian. That simple :P

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

I’d settle for helms that don’t make me look like I’ve got a pot on my head. I understand it is personal taste, but most the helms in game for heavies share way too much similarity. The helm in my opinion is one item that creative art teams can go overboard on in terms of concept designs.

To be honest there are very few armors and weapon skins I like in GW2. At least for human. They should really port over some of the GW1 stuff in my opinion. Lots of skins for everything that looked way better in that game than GW2.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJASWlUgqCnFyLEf4ES2DRCBXQsHYUG1RXFSIA-j0xAorhoRMGiW2rIasV2ioxqXw0lER1ukioVLEQ/FA-w

I’d suggest this if you’re new to WvW. Changing to Clerics or Knights once you get a handle of it.

Made a change.

Top two my knights armor, bottom my clerics.

I’m old timey and stick to GW1 items :P

So a lot of people in my guild are sitting on 100s if not 1000s of badges of honor. We also have a rank system now. Why not add some perks like different armor/weapon skins, food, random items etc that you unlock the ability to buy as you get ranks?

Boomstin.3460:

Tower’s/Keeps matter the other ways too. Once the coverage server has upgraded everything the capped overnight , they refuse to come out from their tier 3 keeps/towers if they don’t outnumber you atleast 3 to 1. Fighting agains’t tier3 walls and arrowcarts is boring.
But that’s something the devs want the wvw to be so i guess there’s no point complaining about it.

Yea JQ did that a lot last match up. That’s when you treb. Then they have to come out. Sure might take longer but that’s how you counter that.

Jamais vu.5284:

Istaf.1953:

Aside of PPT, are other servers getting good fights or is it as one sided as the PPT is in some cases?

I’m not saying this system is awesome, but if you’re getting good fights who cares? Fighting 1 to 2 have generally been the most fun fights for me.

PPT isn’t just some abstract number.
It means you have only T1 towers at your disposal and the opponent perpetually fully upgraded T3 towers.

Isn’t it though? Towers only really matter if you’re going for PPT. Last week for us it was JQ/FA/Mag, Mag came in last by far and JQ ahead by over double. Mag were much fiercer opponents than JQ. PPT =/= Skill

Aside of PPT, are other servers getting good fights or is it as one sided as the PPT is in some cases?

I’m not saying this system is awesome, but if you’re getting good fights who cares? Fighting 1 to 2 have generally been the most fun fights for me.

Shout out to the CD that took long view from our 10ish man ele team last night. Really one of the most fun fights I’ve been in in a while.

linfurong.9032:

I may not like you…

Why don’t you like me? Really, what have I done for this?

“People having fun! Ban them!” Is pretty much what I’m getting from this thread. While it would be cool to have a instance for it to make it easier to organize, I don’t see the problem with it in WvW. Yaro is most likely right about it killing off WvW Though. WvW would become random pug vs random pug if GvG was a new game mode.

Personally I think the commander tag should be removed from WvW. I think that would help lower the amount of people running in zergs. A lot of WvW guilds run without one anyway, but maybe make it so only guild members can see it or something along those lines so its not wasted completely

Chris.3290:

FA vs JQ was bad enough, but Maguuma (as is their habit) wasn’t even able to put up much of a fight until the workweek began.

I had fun this week tbh. The PPT is way off, but FA and I assume Mag as well doesn’t have as large of a night crew as JQ. During prime time the fights were generally good and we’d even the PPT. Then wake up and find everything was flipped by their night crew.

Personally I don’t care about PPT. I don’t go into WvW with PPT on my mind, I go in for the massive fights. So over all good week for me, lots of bags and the servers were rarely dead when I was on.