Guild Wars 2

ZBs guild, I take my hat off to you, you were incredible, probably the best guild I have had the pleasure of fighting against. You have the numbers as well so you can do anything you want, with a raid of 20 or so there’s only a limited amount that you can achieve, but because you had 40ish it was incredible what you could do. I can see why SFR are so strong in the early afternoon like vizunah, which is unfortunate because we really seem to be lacking manpower throughout the day.

Awesome on reset everyone, don’t have a clue who was on Seafarer’s bl but you did an amazing job!

Thanks to everyone for following on Viz bl, wiping both sfr and vizunah inside the lords and then capping it was very nice indeed. Good night all round, on that bl we won whichever way you look at it, kills, battles won, points gained.

Thanks to Coin and INVI also, you guys were great and we managed to dismantle the entire vizunah blob when we grouped up. Also thanks to all the DVG guys and friends from other guilds who were following, was a really fun night to be part of!

If I’m honest, I was disappointed when I saw servers we were facing after reset. It is nothing against either of the two servers, I was just hoping Desolation would be able to test itself against Elona/BB/Jade Sea.

Reset night was great fun, we were in Kodash Bl and there were multiple threeways. It was nice that we had two groups going around who joined forces for the big fights, seemed to work pretty well in the fights.

It was fun commanding this morning/afternoon, it was a slow start with not many players on teamspeak, we struggled to reclaim deso bay with low numbers compared to the two German sides, both having bigger zergs in our own borderland.

After that though it was great fun hopping across the borders with a fully armed, crazy (and sometimes psychotic) desolation group, we had 50 on teamspeak I believe and we had some great fights with both Millers and Kodakitten was a shame (for us) that almost half of your borderlands were tier 3, which limited what we could go for with them being so well sieged and manned with an equal number of defenders. We had some great open field fights, it took us a while to get organised, but eventually we got it right. So yeah, thanks to everything that was following, it was great fun.

Can I just thank everyone that was following me through this morning, it was great fun, we had about 40 of us on teamspeak and that showed with how well we performed in battles. I think we were semi-whiped once in all those AC red circles (sorry about that again, bad decision, but we took it in the end ) But yeah it was great fun commanding with everyone being great, never thought we take all of pikens bl during our weakest point of coverage. Still don’t know how we took Abbadon’s garrison with their huge zerg around the map, maybe they just didn’t expect us to be so stupid and attack garrison! (Not one golem used btw )

But yeah, I just wanted to post and thank everyone that was following, I’ve only been commanding a few weeks and this was probably my best experience at it. I know I’m still a bit kitten, but I’m learning so I hope one day I’ll actually be pretty good!

Sylosis.7125:

LJMaster.6214:

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Update: Well done you reset our Garri even though we’re usually good with our scouting.

We had scouts, by the time we could WP after about 30 seconds getting the golems to land (we had to leave them at the bottom of Piken garrison watergate) the garrison had flipped. I had hoped the EB team would have gone back to desolation rather than spend a significant proportion of time on one target in EB (probably the hardest tower to take on the game) considering we had already lost hills and bay. In fairness to the EB team, they were about to go to Desolation as well, but by he time either of us could WP it had flipped. Borderhopping team managed to take all of Piken bl but we lacked a lot of numbers tonight and we heavily outnumbered by both the opponents forces. Was a difficult night, I was surprised when I saw the size of Piken and Abbadon’s zergs, could have been prime time!

I had fun commanding on EB last night, guild mate set me a challenge to take t3 veloka which had 700 supply….so i did it including OW t3 …yes it took longer than a golem rush of 15 golems no skill, great timing and luck.,….but who cares? We drained 700 supply from Veloka plus 900 from the AM keep….and OW t3 with supply.

Seriously though i get notice in ts that golems inside garri on deso, no idea of numbers, no idea of timer on wp…and you expect me to drop everything in EB??? thats not scouting…thats suddenly realising we are getting rushed…….

Who was commanding on deso that evening, which guild were assigned deso???? its not just me and you who are responsible for deso’s performance. How many commanders are in ts channels right now ( go check) bet 3 atleast per channel are all together instead of tagging up on a map that has no commander? question them.

IF you wanna get serious i’ll show you serious……. and pick out all your faults to your face….not on a forum….. if for one night i wanna have fun and actually set myself a challenge then i will. Your all welcome to follow another commander.

2 nights ago i took everything back on deso bl after the previous failed commander logged off. I managed to seige up everything, take everything back……get scouts in towers and paid them. I paid for upgrades and between the hours i commanded i spent over 6g in seige and upgrades. After my beautiful scouts finally had to leave due to fatigue i then spent the rest of the evening being 1 of 2 guys scouting the whole of deso , refreshing all the seige…etc etc while deso border yumpers golem rushed everything….mayeb you should appreciate the real commanders of deso before spouting nonsense on forums.

I do not rub it in peoples faces my opinion on pvding at night ……you wish to play like that go ahead. But to question the fact i decided for once evening to actually fight real players and take a very hard objective under fire ….is erm strange.

GG anyway mate for being nice to me on ts , and talking kitten on a forum.

mayebe change your char name to 2face?

I’m nice on ts because you’re a funny and great guy. I wasn’t saying you we’re a bad commander or criticising, I wouldn’t have been able to take veloka. All I’m saying is that if you’re playing for points, spending that long on one target probably isn’t the best thing to do. Deso wasn’t your fault either, EB was the only map doing well. You are right though, there was probably a lot of commanders online but a border hopping force only really formed when you let me take a few people off you. I also didn’t say I expected you to drop everything? You were about to WP at the same time. I also know you’ve sieged up garrison and upgraded Deso bl for days, I’m not criticising you for any of that. All I was saying is that you probably spent a bit long on one tower. I don’t think saying that deserves the response that you have.

warriorjrd.8695:

I was part of the group that came to defend garrison and that flipped before any of us got in. The only blame I can pin is on AM, it was scouted but whatever they used they got into lords room in less than 2 minutes, no time for any defenders to get inside. You can’t blame the eb group because they couldn’t make it into the keep. As for spending two hours trying to take veloka, that was strategical, it drained their keep supply to around 800. If we kept up that pressure their keep would have been incredibly vulnerable. However, strategy seems to be lacking on a lot of players recently…

Well I edited my originally post because I realised it came across as hostile and I misread Rubio’s post, apologies to him, it’s late and I skimmed over the Piken zerg to mean our team in piken, so yeah apologies, although you still could have stayed for a reply in map chat.

But I didn’t also mean to blame EB, there was nothing either team could have done to prevent us from losing gari. As for the ‘strategy’ surely you would have noticed they had a tier 3 garrison so could just take supplies from one and WP to the other? Also was there really any realistic hope of taking their keep when they had a bigger zerg than us, as well as a fully sieged up keep. The only way to take that tower would have been one of those infamous ‘golem rushes’ before their zerg had time to arrive. I don’t mean to be having a dig, Perish is by far a better commander than myself and has a lot more experience at it, it was just disappointing to find no borderhopping team when I came on at 2am though which is usually our strongest time for points.

Would also like to credit GoD for doing a great job on Abbadon BL for taking everything but their tier 3 towers. Our two border teams managed to achieve a respectful score, unfortunately we didn’t maintain it for long. We obviously didn’t have the numbers (or the lack of enemies) to achieve our usual 3am peak, but it would have been nice to have less concentration on EB and more on the borderlands trying to gain as many points as possible.

warriorjrd.8695:

As for people complaining about people running heavy gaurdians, that really makes me laugh, every good wvw guild runs them and you think that it takes no skill? Why because the auto attack on staff is an aoe? Melee is what does the most damage and thats how you win fights, its plain and simple.

As for people complaining about people using golems, that really makes me laugh, every good wvw server runs them and you think that takes no skill? Why? Because they do serious damage to gates? Golems are the most efficient way to take a tier 3 keep, it’s plain and simple.

PS. I just couldn’t resist.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

Update: Well done you reset our Garri even though we’re usually good with our scouting.

We had scouts, by the time we could WP after about 30 seconds getting the golems to land (we had to leave them at the bottom of Piken garrison watergate) the garrison had flipped. I had hoped the EB team would have gone back to desolation rather than spend a significant proportion of time on one target in EB (probably the hardest tower to take on the game) considering we had already lost hills and bay. In fairness to the EB team, they were about to go to Desolation as well, but by he time either of us could WP it had flipped. Borderhopping team managed to take all of Piken bl but we lacked a lot of numbers tonight and we heavily outnumbered by both the opponents forces. Was a difficult night, I was surprised when I saw the size of Piken and Abbadon’s zergs, could have been prime time!

So the week draws to an end, it was an interesting match up. One side used to fighting tier 1 servers, the other used to guild raids. As for Kodash, well, you put up some valiant defences of your tier 3 keeps and towers in your own borderlands after prime time was over, it’s a shame you lacked numbers throughout the week though.

As a server desolation can learn a lot from piken, the organisation during the battles is unreal, the amount of static fields, immobilizers, and all the other crowd control skills are ridiculous, and utilised so effectively! I doubt we’re ever going to be able to match the melee train that you have though, it seems like 80% of your characters are guardians. I do like how you fight. With that said, I do hope desolation maintains its current ideology, that the server is more important than individual guilds and that we continue to fight together.

The non-primetime was pretty boring this week, our server participation obviously helped us out, I think the fact that we were winning a match up for the first time in months attracted more people to WvW as well.

As for nightcapping, well for a lot of desolation it is just the time they prefer to play guild wars, against vizunah and the other tier 1 servers, at night is when you get the best fun, it’s teams of 30 rather than just mass skill lag that often occurs at prime time. I’m not going to lie, I kind of missed vizunah this week, PvD is very boring and we resorted to strange topics of conversation on teamspeak.

With all things considered though it was an interesting match up, but at the end of the day, we wanted to win and we did that. So nice work everyone on desolation, especially the people who play at night, through the morning, and the early afternoon!

Piken are extremely well organised and it’s amazing how they manage to recover from near-whipe situations. Maybe playing vizunah for so many weeks has made us forget how tough some zergs can be. It really is a completely different challenge to what we’ve faced these past two weeks, don’t really think I’ve seen a server this organised in open field battles.

We had a good night last night, scored a lot of points, we managed to get a WP in SM, at this point a lot of our forces decided to call it a night, bad move because 10 minutes later Piken came in and whiped the 6 defenders haha.

Piken got their revenge after that, basically eradicated us from EB, when you took our tier 3 keep we called in all our players from all the maps and we still had the ounumbered buff! (We really are short of numbers in the morning, we have no hope of competing with viz unless we find a way to cover it). We should probably have been better prepared as it is usually the time that vizu golem rushes every map and flips everything, allowing for quick point taking all day.

I kind of feel bad for Kodash though, because they’re on the end of the night capping from us, and the morning capping from piken! It would be interesting to see how piken coordinate their field battles, I think there’s a lot to appreciate from it. Hopefully we can learn from the way you fight and take that into our inevitable battles against the viz hordes and maybe manage to whipe THE blob with inferior numbers.

And to the guy above, every server has permastealth thiefs, be fair! I must admit, it’s the class/build I hate the most just because of the zerker ones that always seem to pop up when you’re trying to type in guild chat!

Repuran.1859:

LJMaster.6214:

It makes me laugh how we are accused of blobing because we don’t all carry the same guild tag. A lot on Desolation are more concerned with the server doing well than how their guild is perceived by the enemy. I’ll follow a commander regardless of what Desolation guild he comes from, we all share a teamspeak server and I talk to people from other guilds as much as my own. For the record, most of our ‘pugs’ are also on the teamspeak server listening to the commander.

I was not here for the IRON days but I’m glad I wasn’t, the idea of one dominant guild does not appeal to me in the slightest. I much prefer the way it seems to be on Desolation now with the priority being on the server doing well.

When it comes to capping stuff at night, a lot of our players just play at this time (I’m a uni student with nothing to do over summer), it’s not our fault there is not much resistance, it’s not like you would stop ramming a gate because you don’t receive any arrow cart fire. Also, we do better then Vizu at night, it’s the reason we don’t finish 100k points behind anymore, they have more numbers but we are more tactical in our approach. Also viz leaves a scout at every tower and keep 24/7 and so there is always resistance so this is what we are used to. Also, to the guy who suggested arranging a 5v5 for a keep, are we supposed to just tell the other 20 players on ts that they’re not allowed to join in? Besides, it’s war, not spvp.

The aim of my guild and what I hope is the aim of all Desolation is to win, and I mean real winning, not the moral victory we cling to against viz because we don’t use quite as many arrow carts and use about half the number of golems. Besides, viz are the most organised server there is, as previously mentioned they have scouts everywhere and snipping teams on every map. Yet everyone calls them ‘pugs’ (a term I am beginning to despise due to it’s negative implications from elitists) or a blob because they have a lot of numbers and they don’t all carry the same guild tag.

There are no rules in world vs world and it’s like that for a reason, it’s supposed to be the equivalent of a war, the aim is to win, we all have the same instruments we all just use them differently. If you’re going to complain about unequal numbers or expect the enemy to not capture a tower because there is no resistance then wvw is not really for you, there’s nothing wrong in hating us for it because we’re doing well, but complaining that we’re playing the game is a bit pathetic.

I’m getting sick of this “if you can’t beat them, join them” mentality that a lot of people on deso seem to be picking up. The style of play we have atm is no different from Vizunah’s which is why people are moaning, we nightcap undefended objects and all travel in 1 blob. You say your happy you wasn;t here when IRON were around but tbh the guilds we had apart from IRON like GH, VoTF, Bull, and FG would of done a lot better than our current group is with even less people.

Even in Desolation’s prime it never had this blob or nightcap mentality, it would battle in fair numbers and be strongest in prime time, atm our tick in prime time is really low and we are just as strong at 4am in the morning which is pathetic.

So all of Deso used to just log out at night? People pretending that they wouldn’t capture an undefended tower is laughable. When you lose a tower you don’t think ‘kitten them for taking it when we were offline/elsewhere in wvw,’ you think ‘kitten it, we should have been there to defend it!’

For the record, we just have more people that play at night, that’s not a crime, are people like me just not supposed to play the game because I prefer to play at night? Don’t blame me because they are undefended. The Viz horde captures almost the entire map at 6am, your answer would probably be the flame them on the forums and say ‘well, at least we play in the right way.’ Firstly, who decides what is the right and wrong way to play the game? The only thing I can see is that viz are top. But secondly, my thinking would be that we needed to get numbers on at 6am to be able to counter the viz horde.

I wish GvG was a separate game mode to be honest, I just want Desolation to do well. I bet if 80 people had the same guild tag they wouldn’t be called a ‘blob’ just because they all decided to represent. We’re all on ts, it doesn’t matter what the tag is before your name, it’s world vs world, not guild vs guild.

To the Piken guys, yeah I know a lot of you weren’t complaining so apologies, I was directing my post at a specific Piken guy who posted earlier so I probably should have quoted that, so apologies, it’s been a fun match up though and your guys are really good in the fights.

It makes me laugh how we are accused of blobing because we don’t all carry the same guild tag. A lot on Desolation are more concerned with the server doing well than how their guild is perceived by the enemy. I’ll follow a commander regardless of what Desolation guild he comes from, we all share a teamspeak server and I talk to people from other guilds as much as my own. For the record, most of our ‘pugs’ are also on the teamspeak server listening to the commander.

I was not here for the IRON days but I’m glad I wasn’t, the idea of one dominant guild does not appeal to me in the slightest. I much prefer the way it seems to be on Desolation now with the priority being on the server doing well.

When it comes to capping stuff at night, a lot of our players just play at this time (I’m a uni student with nothing to do over summer), it’s not our fault there is not much resistance, it’s not like you would stop ramming a gate because you don’t receive any arrow cart fire. Also, we do better then Vizu at night, it’s the reason we don’t finish 100k points behind anymore, they have more numbers but we are more tactical in our approach. Also viz leaves a scout at every tower and keep 24/7 and so there is always resistance so this is what we are used to. Also, to the guy who suggested arranging a 5v5 for a keep, are we supposed to just tell the other 20 players on ts that they’re not allowed to join in? Besides, it’s war, not spvp.

The aim of my guild and what I hope is the aim of all Desolation is to win, and I mean real winning, not the moral victory we cling to against viz because we don’t use quite as many arrow carts and use about half the number of golems. Besides, viz are the most organised server there is, as previously mentioned they have scouts everywhere and snipping teams on every map. Yet everyone calls them ‘pugs’ (a term I am beginning to despise due to it’s negative implications from elitists) or a blob because they have a lot of numbers and they don’t all carry the same guild tag.

There are no rules in world vs world and it’s like that for a reason, it’s supposed to be the equivalent of a war, the aim is to win, we all have the same instruments we all just use them differently. If you’re going to complain about unequal numbers or expect the enemy to not capture a tower because there is no resistance then wvw is not really for you, there’s nothing wrong in hating us for it because we’re doing well, but complaining that we’re playing the game is a bit pathetic.

It’s nice to have a match up we can for the first time in a very long time.

Bit disappointed by the level of resistance at night, I mean it’s fun to win but I think we took both your borderlands without seeing more than 5 defenders. I mean I’m sure you blame us for capping stuff at night but we are used to a lot of heavy resistance at night and it’s actually the most fun time to wvw. It’s smaller scale zergs of like 20-30 and so the fights are a lot more fun than prime time vs viz.

I’m not going to apologise for using golems, it’s not my fault arena net put them on the game, I’m not going to apologise for wanting to win and for doing anything possible to make that happen. For the record I have never criticised viz for the way they play, it’s not like they care, they win every match up with ease.

With that being said, there were a lot of great fights with Piken, you have some great commanders, I never really look at guild tags so apologies for not being able to name. I also hope we continue to use our commander tags in every map.

So I saw a new side to Viz tonight, it wasn’t 12 golems, it was 12 superior trebs on the edge of SM with a monster zerg.

They first took Durios, although even outnumbering us probably about 5 to 1 in the lords room it was a close run thing.

But then the real fun started, they quickly smashed down the wall at Quentin Lake and about 15 of us held off a full vizombie zerg for multiple attacks, the lootbags I had next to my arrow cart was ridiculous, enough to fill all my inventory twice over. Then then built more trebs, more catapults, more ballistas until they eventually took out all of our siege. But still outnumbered at least 3-1, the brave Desonians repelled the Vizombies, destroyed all the trebs, and hopefully retook SM. (I fell asleep before the last bit)

I must admit though, the most depressing thing I saw all night was from my fellow Desonians. We get the call on viz bl to come and defend a tier 2 SM, so off we go, we hear they’re at inner so we use all the swiftness we can buff. But low and behold about 15 Desonians were fighting a grub in the keep rather than defending SM! It was a sad time, I expressed myself ‘kindly’ in map chat to those fools and congratulated them on completing the defend keep from giant glitching grub event.

All in all though it was a fun night, shame we won’t get that waypoint in SM though.

So Desolation borderland was interesting the past two hours…

We (deso) were running around defending our two towers alternatively against the French hordes, we eventually lost them due to the attacks being simultaneously, I have to say, I don’t think there has been much fighting on the south on the map, if you get my point.

But then it came to gari, we’re defending against Vizombies from the north, and then all of a sudden Augary are at the South gate! I had a plan to wait it out on the roof/upstairs and let you both fight it out, but as ever viz let us down by actually being pathetic at combat and they ran away and wp-ed (shock) leaving Augary to cap it as we were too few.

It was a fun night that ended with the server crashing, well it did for everyone in desolation, hopefully it did for you as well or I’ll be logging back in to a green map!

The only annoying this is that it was about 40 of us against 150 of you, I’m sure it was coincidence that your attacks kept coinciding, but it really was tough work for us poor defenders!

Hi, basically I’ve been level 80 elementalist for ages and I usually spent my time doing sPVP or dungeons until a couple of weeks ago I stumbled onto the awesomeness of WvW! I never played the original GW so I never realised how good it was.

So yeah, now I’m looking to join a guild that is dedicated to the WvW aspect so I can get a bit more involved. I’m active and usually play from 8pm onwards (until later than I’d like to admit!)

English speaking is preferable as it’s basically the only language I speak.

I should probably add I’ve never been in a guild before, but I know they have their missions so I’d always be happy to get involved on that.

Thanks,
LJoey

Yeah I have full beserker gear at the moment for PVE but when it comes to WvW and dungeons I want to be a little bit tougher.

So is the boon duration runes the way to go? Can I use 2 superior water and 2 major runes instead of the major sanctuary as the former gives 15% and the latter 10% or can you not use the same type of rune?

I’m thinking of going full knights armour with a mixture of knights and Valkyrie trinklets. No idea about a back item though, I hear that the best you can acquire is from being in a guild?

Hi, basically as the title says I’ve recently hit level 80 and I need help.

I’ve been researching about what build is best and the only thing people seem to agree on is 0/10/0/30/30!

What I’m unsure of is what armour and trinkets to acquire, I’ve seen many say PVT and others knights armour so I was wondering if anyone could clarify which was best and what trinkets to use in support?

I’ve also seen people suggesting mixing armour and major runes so would this be the way to go?

I’m hoping to D/D but on occasion switch to staff when it’s preferable so which are the best stats and runes to go on the weapons?

Sorry to ask so many questions, I’ve watched about 50 YouTube videos and viewed a lot of forums and everybody seems to suggest something different!

Thanks!