Guild Wars 2

I disagree. I’m a new player and I got from lvl 17-29 just doing mapping , which can be quite fun (Cities are boring, but the maps outside of them are fun)

I’m new, and only lvl 29. Does this mean that if I don’t get to lvl 80 and do Silverwastes at least once before next week I’ll never be able to access it? Is the same true for this upcoming release on November 18?

So basically, what the title says.

When I think of Human, I think Guardian or Thief.
When I think of Sylvari, I think Ranger or Elementalist.
When I think of Asura, I think Engineer or Necromancer.
When I think Charr I think Warrior.
When I think Norn I think Guardian or Warrior.

What do you all think?

Take this from another former Maplestory player. They are completely different. I was worried about getting into GW2, but I’m having a blast. Like you I came into the game completely new and honestly confused.

BUT!

I met some people, joined a guild, and I’m having a blast. I suppose the thing for you though, is the play style. It’s not for everyone. All I can say is practice. Join a guild (probably have you and your friends remake chars of at least the same Race and same beginning traits so you have the exact same story) and do world bosses.

I don’t really know if this will help, but don’t knock it till you try it, and by try it, I mean play for a bit longer, level up, and do at least a few dungeon runs before giving up.

So far I seem to find myself relying on GS+Staff GS for damage (I now LOVE GS) and Staff simply for the speed. But then again, I’ve only been doing mapping for the past 24 hours. But I do use Sword+Focus when I go fighting or world bossing

I have 1 silver doubloon but it’s not worth much in my server. 1G 79S

Malin.2490:

Guardians will die a lot at first. I know I did. The reason is while you have heavy armour, you also has a low health pool. It is a lot tricker to learn to play than for example warrior, who has both armor and a large health pool.

As others have said here, a lot of the guardian’s strength comes from simply not being hit. And that is REALLY hard when you are starting out. A lot of the skills and traits you get as you level make you tons better, so this can actually be a deceptively difficult class at the start, especially if you go in and expect something super tanky.

That being said, guardian is not for everybody. I’ve got a fully kitted one at lvl 80 and I almost never use him. The playstyle just doesn’t suit me.

But you know what? You have lots of character slots! If you get frustrated, take a break and try out one of the other classes. You don’t have to delete anything, and even if you end up going back to your guardian, the money and materials you earned on the other character can still be used.

Reading your description I think that maybe Ranger would suit you if you don’tmind having a pet. The sword makes you automatically stick to a target, and they have lots of close range firing/melee options like axes and bows were you don’t have to run after your opponent all the time.

Or try the warrior, it is a lot sturdier than the guardian from the start, and is perfect at learning the system on.

There’s no harm in saying that a class might not be for you and try something new.

I thought so too, but in so many games I play, I play ranged/support (almost always support, which also happens to be ranged), so I wanted to come into this game trying something new. I’m liking guardian, but you’re right, I probably will end up trying Ranger and thief at a later date. But for now I really want to at least try Guardian.

Dalanor.5387:

NaotsuguLH.8915:

I know that, but it was an assumption I made. I know what he said, but for some reason I ASSUMED that because scepter/torch wasn’t all that good, that scepter and torch weren’t good in general. My bad.

I did read the links and such. But it didn’t really help me much. I’ll reread/watch some of them again in a bit.

They are just too situational. For example look at this video. You can see the bluish ring around the target. When the enemy has such large hitbox it’s the most beneficial to use scepter since if Smite (#2 ability) can hit with each hit, resulting in better dps than other options. But it’s situational.
Same with torch. Often you are better to just use focus for the block and additional blind (+vulnerability if you trait for it, which is just free extra damage again).

edit: forgot the link of the video :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0fTWRq4xTM

So it’s best use is boss monsters/ mobs with large hitbox?

Kritterz.7458:

Now that sucks. I really love the concept of a shield wielder. So does this mean that their defensive skills are not limited to having a shield equipped? But looking at the pictures, the greatsword looks kitten. I guess I’m gonna have to experiment myself. S

Well, yes. TRUST me, playing yourself will help to determine if you like it. I thought I’d love Sword+shield. I didn’t. Also, the offhand weapon Focus has defensive capabilies.

RoseofGilead.8907:

The rewards are just based on your level. The only “special” drop that comes from a JP chest is the blade shard(s) that drop from the Aetherblade JP in Gendarran Fields. The rewards, depending on which chest is at the end of each JP, are usually 1-2 pieces of armor or weapons, empyreal shards, a crafting mat, and an upgrade (seals and such). The armor/weapon drop you get will be based on your current level. Also, every time you do a JP for the first time, you get an achievement.

Just as an FYI, if you have a level 20-25ish character, you have a good chance of getting silver doubloons from JP chests. Silver doubloons are pretty highly coveted and can make you some nice gold on the TP. So, consider doing JPs on those characters.

Ahh so it’s a bit different then I thought. Thanks. When I get to lvl 20-25ish on my first char, I will do just that I’m currently lvl 17 I think.

Rhianne.4027:

Make sure your gear is reasonably up to date for your level, and put some cheap runes on your armour (I generally go for minor ones giving +10 to power) and sigils on your weapon. Putting a minor sigil of bloodlust on the main weapon you’re using to kill things and one of your underwater weapons. This gives you power buffs when you kill things, so will help with killing enemies before they kill you.

This might not be the case for you, but I found my characters I was levelling tended to go through periods of dying horribly when I just hadn’t updated their equipment in a while.

I think that did apply to me when I was lvl 7 and using starter stuff. I have a few weapons with sigils but I’m still new and don’t know anything about them, such as where to get a sigil and how to apply it to a weapon. Same for runes.

Dalanor.5387:

NaotsuguLH.8915:

oxtred.7658:

After some experience, you’ll be able to take absolutely 0 damage in melee, no matter the numbers and strenght of mobs. You can swap a sword for scepter though, going scepter-focus/greatsword.

So scepter isn’t completely garbage then? that’s good to hear actually. I thought when you said scepter+torch was garbage you meant scepters and torches in general

Reading comprehension?

He sad it’s bad against multiple enemies (aka trash mobs) since scepter is a single target weapon and other options, namely greatsword and sword, has blind on it which negates 100% incoming damage.

oxtred.7658:

Don’t take scepter for trash mobs. The main damage from scepter is smite, and each hit is single target. Scepter torch against trash mobs is the lowest dps, lowest utilities you can get.

Read my previous links and watch the guides finally.

I know that, but it was an assumption I made. I know what he said, but for some reason I ASSUMED that because scepter/torch wasn’t all that good, that scepter and torch weren’t good in general. My bad.

I did read the links and such. But it didn’t really help me much. I’ll reread/watch some of them again in a bit.

oxtred.7658:

After some experience, you’ll be able to take absolutely 0 damage in melee, no matter the numbers and strenght of mobs. You can swap a sword for scepter though, going scepter-focus/greatsword.

So scepter isn’t completely garbage then? that’s good to hear actually. I thought when you said scepter+torch was garbage you meant scepters and torches in general

Kritterz.7458:

Thanks you guys. I think we’ll both pick the same race so that we can progress everything together without having to side track.

As far as classes go, I guess the guardian here seems like a templar/paladin such that it is defensive, can heal and can be built for damage? I’m leaning towards guardian and warrior more, but I would like to go with the one that wields a shield. Or are shields not that useful as a defensive character here? I’ve seen in the guardian forums where they post pics of their chars that a lot were wearing a big 2h sword.

Thanks for everything guys!

From my thread I have been told shields are no good. Useless. Guardians seem to like Greatsword, but I’ve been told Sword + Focus is really good.

Edit: Just so you know, Humans are making a comeback to capture their stolen property.

oxtred.7658:

Trash mobs refer to the non champion mobs between bosses in dungeons. All open world pve mobs are trash mobs. You can either use staff, or just melee with gs/ sw-f. You have enough blinds to survive melee. Go in with gs 3, pull mobs with gs 5, use gs 2 and 4, refresh the blind with f1 when traited, swap to sword focus, use sword 2 and focus 5 if needed, auto attack, use focus 4, aegis/shelter if mobs are still not dead, swap to gs and start again.

Very complicated, but I get the gist. I’ll feel it out and see. But I like the idea of luring mobs in from a distance, doing damage while taking no damage (or very little), then wopping them with melee.

oxtred.7658:

Don’t take scepter for trash mobs. The main damage from scepter is smite, and each hit is single target. Scepter torch against trash mobs is the lowest dps, lowest utilities you can get.

What are trash mobs? Then should I use staff to lure?

Olvendred.3027:

Yes. You can even leave a character “parked” at the end of a jumping puzzle, and open the chest with that character every day.

Oooh. Do the rewards vary depending on location and difficulty? I know it varies per chest, but…

Yargesh.4965:

an option that is surprisingly complained about is to kill the enemy before they kill you. That is use dps as a defensive strategy. For me that is scepter/torch at slight range then jump in with greatsword, things are dead really fast.

I usually do scepter/torch to lure them in, then switch to a close range weapon to murder them. Usually mace, but I will retry greatsword.

The wiki says “jumping puzzle chests reset daily”. Does this mean I can redo jumping quests and get the reward again?

@dalanor, I kind of understand now, I guess, but that only strengthens my reason for using mace + (from what you’re telling me, focus). Mace has a block + healing skill, and focus has 1 block skill as well, while sword only has a projectile shield.

I play in SBI, NA server.

Rip Van Winkle.4859:

You may want to have a look at this. I found it to be very helpful.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/GW2-Combat-system-101-Guide

For the most part, it added to confusion, but it did answer the one about play style. Thanks.

Dalanor.5387:

I guess it’s a PvE related question.
Hammer is for control and perma protection which is more useful in high level Fractals where mobs hit really hard.
Greatsword is your basic trash clearing weapon with cleaving (it hits up to 3 targets at once in a single swing), aoe skills and a 600 range aoe pull.
Staff is just for utility (swiftness, CC wall) and mob tagging (auto attack hits 5 target in a wide cone).
Scepter is your default ranged weapon. Your second ability, Smite is great against targets with larger hitbox since its an area based attack and it lands more hits the bigger the target is.
Sword is your highest dps option though it’s better for single targets.
Mace is a tricky one. It’s good against multiple mobs since it cleaves as well, has a healing field and can block an attack in a wide area to protect your team mates.
Shield is kinda useless since …
Focus is your off-hand which can block a few attacks. Also it has a ranged blind attack on #4.
Torch is just a dps off-hand. It’s good when you don’t use anything else just a main hand weapon, let’s say sword and you can have two off-hands at the same time (focus + torch).

It’s just a learn to play issue. Use your blocks and skills that aegis instead of eating the damage. Thats why in PvE gear sets with toughness or vitality are almost useless.

You’ll get used to it. Btw there is a thing called “max melee range”. Watch for the red line below your skills. Thats your range indicator. If it lits up you are out of range. But if you slightly step back and when the moment it appears you should stop. While spamming your buttons you can still hit enemy mobs but they cant hit back.

Detailed guardian build guides.
What to do as a guardian in dungeons. Useful tips while leveling too.
http://gw2dungeons.net/ for dungeon guides.

I’ve looked at those links (aside from dungeon guide) and those are partially why I’m asking. I chose mace because of the healing (because I was dieing so often at lower levels). But I gather I should switch to sword for DPS? I don’t like Hammer or Greatsword because it’s so slow. I do like a bit of speed. Or does the DPS even out?

So I started this game on Friday, and everyone I’ve met has seem to be fairly nice. I’m enjoying it.

However, after doing some reading and talking to people I’ve met (such as my guild etc), I’m a bit confused.

I understand that the game doesn’t have your typical Tank, DPS, or healer roles. That’s fine. I like games that break the norm. But! I am a bit confused in regards to certain things.

For example, I’m a guardian, and guardians have a million and one weapons to choose from. Well, which weapons have the best synergy? I’ve been switching in and out, and currently, because I just got weapon switching at lvl 15, I’m using Scepter + Torch, and when they get close, switch to either hammer (too slow) or mace + shield. Is this a good combo? I do not know.

Second, as a guardian who is one of the more “tankier” classes, or so I have read, I seem to take A LOT of damage. I can’t count the number of times I’ve died. Which leaves me to wonder, if all the other classes die as much.

Also, I’m playing guardian, and liking it, but as my first MMO I’m not used to having to be “in range” with a close range weapon. It gets a bit annoying to have to follow the enemy and swing my sword. In most games I’ve played (MMORPG’s mostly) all weapons have a little range, to say the least. Does my playstyle fit the guardian role?

I know these questions are “up to my preference” but I’ve never really had experience in MMO’s and I don’t want to waste time/money (I got deluxe edition so I don’t want to waste those on a char I won’t like).