Guild Wars 2

I got two golem BP with in a hour of each other in WvW, but I don’t think I have ever gotten an exotic.

Crossplay.2067:

Aberrant.6749:

Here is the thing about vuln on staff… yes it sucks if you’re full cond and solo. However the vuln has good group applications (support). It also isn’t worthless if the staff is used as a as a power weapon (iwarlock hits like a truck if you’re power built).

While this is true, I would rather see poison then vulnerability. It doesn’t stack high enough and there aren’t many traits to boost it so it’s really only effective against champions. Poison, on the other hand, would synergize well with a condition build and a power build.

I would jump through the roof if my condition tank setup would have more poison at it’s command instead of vulnerability. Shoot, I’d be just happy just not having vulner on there.

Varconi.1804:

bellrang.1628:

Just wanted to say thank you to FIVE (aka SPCA) for ram sacking the fight club, to think you guys couldn’t get any lower.

Anyways, I enjoyed your loot bags.

wasn’t spca but grats getting 2 loot bags I looted 30+

FIVE is an alt for SPCA guys.

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Lots of complaining about GoM’s BL. You all realize it makes it next to impossible for us to defend lake and briar given we are DCing as well. I was fighting 5 guys for briar the other day, just to DC. By the time I logged back in and ran to briar, the gate was done. So much for the siege I put up to defend the tower.

Is it happening? Yes and it is effecting everyone, not just attackers. Nothing beats spending plenty of gold each day to upgrade things, just to run into a camp to defend it and lag out. And those that know me know that I can hold a camp pretty well.

Dont think anyone was arguing about it not affecting GoM defenders also, as we have heard statements from other GoM players about lag issues too.
The issue with GoM BL atm is its lags and disconnects everyone. Im sure you can appreciate its much harder to attack with constant disconnects than to defend.

I really hope that all the talk last week from DR when NSP and DR were hitting gom about not playing for seconds a great matchup was not just empty words, and the current cherry picking of an already undermanned NSP is just a result of GoM BL lag issues.

Well, yes it can be easier to defend than to attack, but it also take a whole lot longer for defenders to get to a given point in the south than an attacker. This means that DC’s effect defenders much worse than an attacker. With that being said, I certainly understand it is a turn off for others to come to our BL with all this going on.

BTW, I must comment on [WoS] guild of DR. I find it funny that a single mes (me) was holding you guys back (even stomped you guys badly at vale) just to have a several minute fight with 8-10 of you guys at Faithleap. When you guys finally did get me down with most of your force in very bad shape, I got a kick out of a necro deciding to teabag me. I’m not sure what he was all proud about when it was a huge number of guys to take little ole me down but to each their own I guess.

Lots of complaining about GoM’s BL. You all realize it makes it next to impossible for us to defend lake and briar given we are DCing as well. I was fighting 5 guys for briar the other day, just to DC. By the time I logged back in and ran to briar, the gate was done. So much for the siege I put up to defend the tower.

Is it happening? Yes and it is effecting everyone, not just attackers. Nothing beats spending plenty of gold each day to upgrade things, just to run into a camp to defend it and lag out. And those that know me know that I can hold a camp pretty well.

Embolism.8106:

The iWarden deals the most damage in a single attack, but that doesn’t mean it has the highest DPS. Remember it takes 5 seconds to execute its attack and then does nothing for 9 seconds, for a total of 14 seconds. Most other Phantasms have more than twice the attack rate.

That is what I was pointing out. Warden has the strongest attack, but I don’t think anything beats the Staff when it comes to pure DPS (when not getting locked into stacking vulner). With a pure condition build, you can easily achieve over 140 dmg per stack of bleeds, plus burn, plus poison (from chaos storm) on top of the direct damage from you and your clones.

Soupa.9842:

To much discussion about other people, score updates are needed for the peeps who can’t play. Yes the marshmallow ones. Peeps are people too.

http://mos.millenium.org/na Has update scoring now so you should always be able to see how things are going.

wads.5730:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Esplen.3940:

Dhampyr.2104:

wads.5730:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

I think it all comes done to weapon specks really. If you are getting good procs and running a condition build, I think the staff would have the highest dps but it has no burst. GS and sword are pretty much pure burst weapons. If you hit with all attacks, I believe the warden is far and away the strongest attack in the game. Just running a partial phantasm hybrid setup, iwarden will hit a gate for 200-420 (scaling up with each hit). Using an average of 310, that’s 3720 damage to a gate!

thats not how damage tooltips work.

That’s not a very helpful comment.

Elaboration would be awesome.

The damage scales up because it’s tallying the total damage.

Assuming the iWarden hits a gate 10 times for 20 damage, the tooltip will show 200 damage at the end. Why? 20 + 20 + 20 +… 10 times is 200. It’ll go 20 —> 40 --> 60 —> 80 --> ~~~ —> 200.

Of course, that’s not the correct hits or damage on a Warden, but I was just elaborating in a way that would let you make sense.

If “combo” damage worked that way then a Warden could effectively 5-7shot an enemy. That way being each hit deals the amount shown in the air, not the amount shown in the air is your total off of the current attack.

The reason why it tallies it together as one damage is because it’s all coming from one damage source/attack and not multiple sources/attacks. I hope that clears it up.

That would make zero sense. The first hit for iWarden on the gate is just over 200, that would mean the next hit would be double that and so on. This is simply not the case when iWarden attacks. In my experience, I have seen the numbers go up, but they aren’t in some sort of addition progress but rather what looks like a variable addition to each attack that hits. In this case it was like 210, 232, 249, 269, … to 413.

you’re seeing things wrong. if your first hit is 200, then the second would be 400. but you’ll never get that kind of numbers on gates.

maybe you’re seeing autoattack numbers besides the phantasm damage, and you’re confused.

Nope, wasn’t an auto attack since I cast iWarden from a distance with a sword in my main hand. When I run a phantasm hybrid, the first attack my warden does is always over 150 and usually around 200+.

Esplen.3940:

Dhampyr.2104:

wads.5730:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

I think it all comes done to weapon specks really. If you are getting good procs and running a condition build, I think the staff would have the highest dps but it has no burst. GS and sword are pretty much pure burst weapons. If you hit with all attacks, I believe the warden is far and away the strongest attack in the game. Just running a partial phantasm hybrid setup, iwarden will hit a gate for 200-420 (scaling up with each hit). Using an average of 310, that’s 3720 damage to a gate!

thats not how damage tooltips work.

That’s not a very helpful comment.

Elaboration would be awesome.

The damage scales up because it’s tallying the total damage.

Assuming the iWarden hits a gate 10 times for 20 damage, the tooltip will show 200 damage at the end. Why? 20 + 20 + 20 +… 10 times is 200. It’ll go 20 —> 40 --> 60 —> 80 --> ~~~ —> 200.

Of course, that’s not the correct hits or damage on a Warden, but I was just elaborating in a way that would let you make sense.

If “combo” damage worked that way then a Warden could effectively 5-7shot an enemy. That way being each hit deals the amount shown in the air, not the amount shown in the air is your total off of the current attack.

The reason why it tallies it together as one damage is because it’s all coming from one damage source/attack and not multiple sources/attacks. I hope that clears it up.

That would make zero sense. The first hit for iWarden on the gate is just over 200, that would mean the next hit would be double that and so on. This is simply not the case when iWarden attacks. In my experience, I have seen the numbers go up, but they aren’t in some sort of addition progress but rather what looks like a variable addition to each attack that hits. In this case it was like 210, 232, 249, 269, … to 413.

I think it all comes done to weapon specks really. If you are getting good procs and running a condition build, I think the staff would have the highest dps but it has no burst. GS and sword are pretty much pure burst weapons. If you hit with all attacks, I believe the warden is far and away the strongest attack in the game. Just running a partial phantasm hybrid setup, iwarden will hit a gate for 200-420 (scaling up with each hit). Using an average of 310, that’s 3720 damage to a gate!

spiraling.6183:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Sorry for spoiling your fun on our BL there [RMPT]. Must be disheartening to have to run back into the camp when you have a 3v1 fight on your hands.

xD Ohai. Erm, it was an impersonal decision? We were all lagging too badly to function so we just disengaged… pretty simple. Dunno if you noticed everyone teleporting all over the universe and running into walls. GoM bl is terrible this week for some reason. ; ;

Dunno why you felt the need to post about it though ^^a Ehh.. High five anyway?

You realize that I"m just messing around. We all are lagging on GoM bl.

Sorry for spoiling your fun on our BL there [RMPT]. Must be disheartening to have to run back into the camp when you have a 3v1 fight on your hands.

Debois Guilbert.6413:

wish.1027:

How do I get in on this drama? It looks fun. My mule is on GOM, which side does that put me on??

I would suggest making a post about how your group wiped <insert random opponent> in a N vs. M battle. N and M should be different numbers, but to help start the drama, it should be unclear which side had N and which side had M. Don’t forget to point out the total awesomeness of your group and how easy it was to wipe the opponents.

If you want to innovate I suppose you could post about how your group won a three way battle. Don’t forget to describe the size of the forces in the most confusing way possible.

Fine, I’ll start. Took on a guild group yesterday [PB] from NSP. It was a four man group and they simply couldn’t do squat to me. I was even jumping up and down to try and let them know it was me who was killing them solo so as not to be confused as one of my clones. After I had completed stomping you guys (including the commander ele), I kind of felt bad about it. So to recap, thats 4v1 and the last one standing was me.

Rob.7624:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Rob.7624:

Yeup just came out of NSP bl.
Apparently we had no one on it, literal figures 0 for most of night.
GoM took most of it with 7 people, or so I was told.
Then DR showed up too with 3 Omegas.

Wanted to ask if either of you had siege problems? It didn’t look like it though.
Ours is bugging out, we drop it, get it to 90% built and then Poof. Its gone.
Reason why you may have witnessed some gate chewing.

That will happen when the siege cap is hit.

Couldn’t have been. We owned a single tower and that only had 1 ac in it.
No idea where all the siege could have been, other servers siege doesn’t effect each other, they’d have to keep ticking it which I’d say rules out under the map. The problem lasted for several hours when I was online.

Doesn’t it give you a max siege warning too?

@Nordic Natedog.4360 previous post
I want to buy you a new graphics card.
Seven shades of poop

Sorry, but I play on a laptop. As a father of four, the luxury of buying a gaming system for me to use isn’t in the cards. This is my work/gaming computer so I run it on lower graphics settings to decrease my odds of lag and such. Having great graphics just increases the look of the game but doesn’t increase in any fashion the fun of playing it.

Rob.7624:

Yeup just came out of NSP bl.
Apparently we had no one on it, literal figures 0 for most of night.
GoM took most of it with 7 people, or so I was told.
Then DR showed up too with 3 Omegas.

Wanted to ask if either of you had siege problems? It didn’t look like it though.
Ours is bugging out, we drop it, get it to 90% built and then Poof. Its gone.
Reason why you may have witnessed some gate chewing.

That will happen when the siege cap is hit.

Well, great to see that Os of NSP can actually kill something. This thief was so proud that his 5 man Os guild group plus 2 other pugs could actually kill one memser. Mind you this was the third time I came out from bay gate after being able to successfully go in against them and still be able to live.

Dubblebass.8519:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

bokkieskitten.8023:

Naffy.1493:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Rob.7624:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Rob.7624:

Sororita.3465:

Battle stations people

battle stations for your battle stations.

I see your Rig and I raise you a shiverpeaks commander

I see yours… and raise you Mine. with a 32 inch screen and 22 inch back up :]

All I see is drugs and is that a bong on the left?

Looks like one to me, as well as a pipe next to the lighters.

Haha You are both correct. I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice :] good thing I live in a state that is forward thinking enough that said items are 100% legal….. lets call them Game enhancement items.

Way to brag about drug abuse, hophead.

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#tonyjeal

How is it abuse if it’s legal there?

Just because something is legal doesn’t make it not abuse. Things get abused and can be deemed morally reprehensible despite what the law says.

If I have a beer, am I abusing alcohol? Just because you see paraphernalia doesn’t mean there is abuse involved. It may mean there is USE.

Now you fail at logic. I never said they were abusing it. The statement was ‘how it can be abuse if it is legal’, which don’t have anything to do with each other. Try quoting the guy who spoke about Zorin (who I chat with in game all the time) bragging about his drug abuse and not my explanation.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

bokkieskitten.8023:

Naffy.1493:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Rob.7624:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Rob.7624:

Sororita.3465:

Battle stations people

battle stations for your battle stations.

I see your Rig and I raise you a shiverpeaks commander

I see yours… and raise you Mine. with a 32 inch screen and 22 inch back up :]

All I see is drugs and is that a bong on the left?

Looks like one to me, as well as a pipe next to the lighters.

Haha You are both correct. I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice :] good thing I live in a state that is forward thinking enough that said items are 100% legal….. lets call them Game enhancement items.

Way to brag about drug abuse, hophead.

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#tonyjeal

How is it abuse if it’s legal there?

Just because something is legal doesn’t make it not abuse. Things get abused and can be deemed morally reprehensible despite what the law says.

I’m sure this discussion would have happened if there was a glass of wine there instead.

That would be a picture of me with my laptop, glass of wine in hand.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Seeing all these people post pictures of older systems, I have to wonder how many people actually used them. I, for one, got my early game experiences on a TI-99. Long live Tombstone City, Munch Man, Dig Dug, and Parsec!!!

I had one of those! PARSEC was my favorite game for a long time. I also had Munch Man, Car Wars, TI Invaders, and Early Learning Fun (lol).

I had early learning fun as well. We also had an exercise game which I don’t recall the name.

Probably Physical Fitness. Your post made me all nostalgic, so I found this site with links to screenshots and box art for all the old TI-99 games.

http://www.mainbyte.com/ti99/carts/carts_list.asp

So sweet. I forgot about Blasto. I remembered a tank game similar to atari’s Combat, but this brought it back for me. And yes, it was Physical Fitness. Loved the stick man animation.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Seeing all these people post pictures of older systems, I have to wonder how many people actually used them. I, for one, got my early game experiences on a TI-99. Long live Tombstone City, Munch Man, Dig Dug, and Parsec!!!

I had one of those! PARSEC was my favorite game for a long time. I also had Munch Man, Car Wars, TI Invaders, and Early Learning Fun (lol).

I had early learning fun as well. We also had an exercise game which I don’t recall the name.

Naffy.1493:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

bokkieskitten.8023:

Naffy.1493:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Rob.7624:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Rob.7624:

Sororita.3465:

Battle stations people

battle stations for your battle stations.

I see your Rig and I raise you a shiverpeaks commander

I see yours… and raise you Mine. with a 32 inch screen and 22 inch back up :]

All I see is drugs and is that a bong on the left?

Looks like one to me, as well as a pipe next to the lighters.

Haha You are both correct. I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice :] good thing I live in a state that is forward thinking enough that said items are 100% legal….. lets call them Game enhancement items.

Way to brag about drug abuse, hophead.

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#tonyjeal

How is it abuse if it’s legal there?

Just because something is legal doesn’t make it not abuse. Things get abused and can be deemed morally reprehensible despite what the law says.

“Morally reprehensible” is a little strong for puffing a little ckittena, isn’t it?

I didn’t say one thing about what was morally reprehensible, simply stating that pointing to something being legal doesn’t automatically change the morality of it. If that was the case, then moral codes simply flow like the ocean wherever society decides to lead it.

bokkieskitten.8023:

Naffy.1493:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Rob.7624:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Rob.7624:

Sororita.3465:

Battle stations people

battle stations for your battle stations.

I see your Rig and I raise you a shiverpeaks commander

I see yours… and raise you Mine. with a 32 inch screen and 22 inch back up :]

All I see is drugs and is that a bong on the left?

Looks like one to me, as well as a pipe next to the lighters.

Haha You are both correct. I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice :] good thing I live in a state that is forward thinking enough that said items are 100% legal….. lets call them Game enhancement items.

Way to brag about drug abuse, hophead.

Show Spoiler

hide spoiler

#tonyjeal

How is it abuse if it’s legal there?

Just because something is legal doesn’t make it not abuse. Things get abused and can be deemed morally reprehensible despite what the law says.

Rob.7624:

Ninjapotpie.6973:

Rob.7624:

Sororita.3465:

Battle stations people

battle stations for your battle stations.

I see your Rig and I raise you a shiverpeaks commander

I see yours… and raise you Mine. with a 32 inch screen and 22 inch back up :]

All I see is drugs and is that a bong on the left?

Looks like one to me, as well as a pipe next to the lighters.

Seeing all these people post pictures of older systems, I have to wonder how many people actually used them. I, for one, got my early game experiences on a TI-99. Long live Tombstone City, Munch Man, Dig Dug, and Parsec!!!

ProxyDamage.9826:

Mesmers are sort of in the same bag as Thieves, in the “why in the hell wouldn’t you use berserker” bag. They get a lot of millage out of burst and they have enough innate survival that they don’t need toughness/vit as much as others.

I couldn’t disagree more. My setup will almost always destroy a zerker mes or thief with very very few being able to down me and that is usually because there is multiple foes against just me. I run high toughness in most of my builds and the increased survivability allows me to remain on the field far longer than zerker.

Crixus.9247:

Great fun at GOM today, VP held bay and briar for only 9 hours. Impressive effort GOM, you pulled huge numbers to take it back

Picture of 5 VPs against 50 GOM, as last stand for the night at briar.

It was more like 30, not 50, and you guys had already had plenty of siege built up hence it takes quite a few guys to take anything these days with the major buffs to AC’s.

I will say I got a kick out of the thieves trying to jump me once we were inside Bay on top of the north hill. The VP thief who was teleporting just gave up trying. It was a nice game of tag after that. LOL

arKRazor.8654:

Colt.9051:

Been slaving over fractals trying to get an ascended back piece so I could transmute my flower backpack with the correct stats and look even more like a fairy >.> Took a late night stroll in DR’s BLs and got some great roaming done. Had some great 1v2 fights with the Glob warrior and Rain ranger (Had to jet when 2 more ppl showed up, but i almost had a nice 1v1 with the warrior when i got chased to spawn) and later on the DDLG ranger and same Rain ranger, which lasted like a whole hour it seemed… Great fights which I needed since I missed the fight club… (Apologies to the xQcx (I Think) thief I was dueling that got rolled by the two rangers, we had a good fight going as well >.<)

The Glob warrior would have been Theoden Warstar. Good guy and one of the cherished few wvw’ers that Glob fields.

I saw a few of your Glob guys just a little bit again on our (GoM) BL. I hope they had fun trying to kill me (the Obon Mesmer). I do what I can. The 3 of us looking to retake got quite the kick out of DR building up siege (1 AC and 2 Balistas) when it was a 6 v 3 fight in their favor plus they had the NPC’s. I guess that’s what you call respect.

The vulner is one of the traits we Mesmers have. It’s 5 stacks when you cause daze, so it works on chaos storm as well, but diversion is just that much better given you can cause 3-4 dazes, hence 15-20 stacks. I don’t play shattercat style, but will do this particular shatter to go with the rest of my build.

I wanted to say good match to the guardian from [NAME] I was 1v1ing with between your spawn point and Lake tower on GoM BL before we were rudely interrupted. It was likely just going to go back and forth anyways. You certainly have quite the bunker build going there, so much stability.

GenerationX.9178:

People are still on about thieves calling them op, after thieves get nerfed yeah yeah. Then people will complain about mesmers being op, they get nerfed yeah yeah seee where this is going? Elementalist next ect…play game…

Mesmsers have already been wacked with the nerf stick a few times. But as far as thieves go, I don’t have any trouble facing them. I may lose against some, but most I can take down.

Wait wait wait. Thieves were often crying about mesmers and their confusion which ended up getting the damage cut in half permanently. Now they are crying that if they fall into a trap they don’t get to stay perma-stealthed?

And those saying that thieves are the squishiest class couldn’t be more wrong. Mesmers by in large are the squishiest class when we get locked down. We have to use trickery, kiting, some stealth, decoys to prevent us from being smashed to bits. Welcome to the world of actually having to add some toughness to your gear and learning how to actually play outside of stealth.

I often stomp other mesmers right after they use the #2. The thing is the timing. If you start a stomp and they instantly teleport, chances are you won’t finish the stomp until they are seen again. If the teleport doesn’t move them far enough away (which does happen often), you will stomp them.

I will say that I am generally annoyed at where the teleport brings me. It honestly should work very similar to phase retreat and move away from your target. As it stands, I got killed today while I was downed simply because I moved right next to my original position (basically didn’t move at all) and the warrior had kept wacking in the same space. I had another foe downed and near dead so I would have easily rallied if I had moved even a little away from him.

vincecontix.1264:

umm you guys do realize that there are people out there that can take on groups by themselves btw are you from Darkhaven? if so Seven Mirrors(Mesmer) on SF (KING guild) likes to take on groups and has constant regen and if theif you saw was from ioj FT guild that was prob me, if your new to WvW i suggest you practice on your pvping and your build may not be suited for WvW there are many vids and post on forums that can help you out

I am on GoM (Angelic Renae) and you will see me taking on multiple foes on a regular basis. I’m probably not as good as Seven who is really fun to watch on his videos, but I do have plenty of similar situations where I took out 4+ players by myself. I had fun with one defense when I was looking to hold the crossroads camp against 6 guys coming from the east. Just as I was to two guys, I turned around to find another 8 guys coming from the west with most of the camp NPC’s gone. Another 2-3 GoM (including a buddy of mine) had come to help but in the end it was I who was the last one trying to hold the camp which is just too many for me. I did get 2 more before I went down though.

I can see how a boon mesmer could end up with a great constant regen setup. Between using dolyak runes (30 hp every sec), regen (which they can keep on constantly and get quite a bit if they spec for it and have something like cleric gear) , plus they could add the rejuvenation booster (100 hp/sec). With all this they could end up with a great regen setup as well as other buffs like protection mitigating damage.

Got to send out some props to the SPCA group we GoM were fighting last night in and around our Vale. Seems you guys really have a nice solid group of bunkers going to go with a crazy shatter happy char mes. I just wish my fellow GoM members would show more patience when dealing with you guys but still have to give you guys props.

On another note, I’m not sure what that char tA thief was laughing over me for after he tried repeatedly to kill me only to run away like crazy as I crushed him over and over again and finally got downed when I got caught from behind by a hundred blades warrior. Well, I suppose someone has to boost their ego while doing nothing more than be annoying.

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Tried out a variation on this setup today. I don’t have any PTV gear right now, so I went with my knights gear loaded with ruby orbs. This made this very powerful, although a little more glass cannon since you don’t have as much vital.

In WvW I run full PTV jewels + zerker weapons and an armour combination of clerics and rabbid (however I will be replacing the rabbid chest piece/mask and legs for PTV or the new VPT.)

I never run PTV in wvw. I’m always running either knights (for my power/crit builds) or rabid (for my cond tank). I’ve gotten use to running with 17k health so it’s no biggy to me.

yeah, that’s how I feel, however under the circumstances I’ve been running this, our group usually finds ourselves in 2-3v6-10’s a majority of the time. Since I have less invis’ as opposed to my shatter counterparts, and if we go against groups more than once, I noticed that I get targeted first, and thus need the extra 7k HP to survive, (No point in being group support and control if you’re dead right?)

Certainly. I love to roam and tried this out by switching out the sig for decoy. It considerably helped. I also change that slot out for feedback when capping. But I do understand you want to be as durable as possible in the above situation.

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Tried out a variation on this setup today. I don’t have any PTV gear right now, so I went with my knights gear loaded with ruby orbs. This made this very powerful, although a little more glass cannon since you don’t have as much vital.

In WvW I run full PTV jewels + zerker weapons and an armour combination of clerics and rabbid (however I will be replacing the rabbid chest piece/mask and legs for PTV or the new VPT.)

I never run PTV in wvw. I’m always running either knights (for my power/crit builds) or rabid (for my cond tank). I’ve gotten use to running with 17k health so it’s no biggy to me.

Tried out a variation on this setup today. I don’t have any PTV gear right now, so I went with my knights gear loaded with ruby orbs. This made this very powerful, although a little more glass cannon since you don’t have as much vital.

Zumi.6384:

I don’t think anyone from GoM has participated in this thread in the last 4 pages unless it was for a score update ><

I’ve made a few comments on the last few pages and I’m on GoM.

From your friendly Obon Mesmer,

Angelic Renae

Neeho.3859:

As far as I am concerned, [SoCo] is the best guild out there, period. It’s not because we never lose fights; we /release more than you guys do fighting the same guilds. It’s not because of our notoriety; I’m sure there are plenty of enemy guilds who aren’t familiar with the tag (probably more that don;t than do). It’s not because we blindly support the guilds on the server; just ask the DR Alliance.

We are the best guild out there because these are the people I play with daily. They know my kids names, I know their kids names, girlfriends, wives, birthdays, been across the country to visit with people I have only known from pictures and teamspeak. With the exception of an intolerance for cheating, I could give a good kitten what others think about me or my guild. Our actions on the field (and in chat) are where our reputation is made. Like us or not, it does not matter to me. Why would I let someone else’s opinion of my friends and I add stress to a GAME? It’s supposed to be fun. Enjoy it with your friends.

Perhaps you’re putting too much stock in what others think of you and your group. It’s an added stress that just isn’t needed. I’ve watched most of your guys videos, fought alongside you (you probably rezzed me many times), and seen enemies pause when they see your tags pop up. Does it matter if they say you had more when you didn’t, or when you wipe 30 with a group of 10 and they have nothing but excuses?

If you didn’t have a video, you wouldn’t remember a month from now which guild said you had more numbers, which you beat 7v15, or which had the most excuses, but you will remember having a good time with your friends. And if that is why we are here, why does any of the other kitten matter?

That is exactly what Yama Seki (Obon) is all about. There aren’t that many actives these days but we have been together since 2006 back in GW1. We’ve gone through lots of things in our personal lives and supported each other through them. We know we can always hop on Vent to have a great chat, especially when dealing with other things in our lives. Our guild isn’t about accomplishments, being seen as the best to other, or drama but rather just a place were we can have fun together and be there for each other when we can. We actually are having some of our kids and wives playing along side us.

Wafflez.8460:

Here is a roaming vid that teivospy wanted me to post for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpexaPSXTFI

Got to love the trash talk, like saying how my ego got hurt. I just plain told you that dueling someone doesn’t involve going to out of aggro range constantly, which you did. You weren’t at 1200 range, you were well beyond that seeing as you ran away and could only hit my illusions who were at their max range from me. I then said, it wasn’t worth my time to simply sit there while you pick them off at max range. But you did win the majority of those duels.

I lose duels and I win some. You’ll often see me taking on multiple foes without support. Sometimes I am the last one standing, sometimes I’m not. Either way, I’ll adjust and come back for more.

BTW, thanks for the compliment at the end. Catch you all roaming out there as I’m sure you know I will be. Wink wink.

Jscull.2514:

Oozo,

I don’t necessarily agree with how you speak of small manning like you are a promoter and in game more often than not run with more, but I will say its gratifying to say the least to see weasels come on the forums a couple weeks after running in 10+ bragging and ALWAYS chasing our 5 across the map crying about y’all hitting them. All the “good” players in t7 purely fight with numbers and have no shame doing it. That’s the face value of t7.

I guess i’m not a “good” player as you’ll often seem me roaming alone (or perhaps with a pug friend if they are up for a challenge). This puts me usually at a numbers disadvantage but doesn’t mean I’m not the last one standing. You won’t see me complaining about zergs, although I really dislike them. I find it dumbs down the play and I’d rather have a challenge.

So if you meet a GoM female Mesmer with an Obon tag, you’re facing me and you’d better bring your A game.

PS. I’d like to say it was a great fight last night to the SPCA ranger who I 1v1ed just south of the GoM Cliff Tower after we broke away from a zerg fight. I was curious if that other guy who joined was called off by you are realized he was over his head. I did feel bad that stupid ram finished you off.

selan.8354:

Lightsbane.9012:

you clowns act like the shatter confusion build is the only mesmer build ever. ridiculous.

ok first of all i think you are rude and calling people clowns is not acceptable!no one said that shatterer was the only build. btw i was a glam mesmer and it breaks my heart to change my entire build, playstyle and gear!
so your comment is only here to offend people, so why don’t u go and troll somewhere else

and again @ OP play around with unique builds, not just plain shatterer, try mantras, immortal mesmer build and play around with skills u normally don’t use, maybe u will find something that encourages u again…and stick with the gear for now or just get an alt with bades or karma..

immortal mesmer does even less damage now because of the hit to retaliation. I still play my condition mesmer build but now its more of a cond tank. Heavy cond removers are a real pain to get down (if I can at all) without the added spikes I could get from confusion, but I am still durable and can fight 3+. I found that I had to run less stealth to compensate for the lack of spike since I really need to interrupt guys more often with temporal curtain.

“But let’s talk direct-damage hexes. Mesmers had Conjure Phantasm, Conjure Nightmare, Illusion of Pain (although they were healed at the end), Illusion of Remorse, Migraine, Overload, Phantom Pain, Recurring Insecurity, and Shrinking Armor, to name a few. If you wanted to play a Mesmer who simply hit the degen cap, you could do so fairly easily.”

Most of these are degen hexes, not direct damage ones. I played mesmer from 3 months after the original GW1 release. Mesmer was very rarely setup for direct damage (outside of e-denial) and most that did to it were mostly gimmick builds or speed nukers. You had those IW (pure gimmick), fragility (which had it’s moments), and later on Wastrel’s & VOR builds. I absolutely hated when they changed up Visions of regret to trigger on all skills. Originally it only effect adren skills (if I remember correctly) but when they made that change it completely dumbed down the profession. I just hope they don’t end up going down this kind of road (although it looks like they have already started by pushing us into mostly power/shatter builds).

To say that it wasn’t their intention to have glamours be a focal point to cause confusion is just ignorant and foolish. They gave us 2 traits in the illusion line that synergize together (glamour blind and blindness causes confusion). They also have glamours cause confusion when entering and exiting it. ANet’s intention that they would be used in this matter is very very clear.

If they wanted to nerf the glamour build to make it less powerful, there are many many ways to do that and have been discussed on several other threads. They took the easy way out and completely destroyed the viability of condition and glamour builds.

MrInfinit.1864:

zaxon.6819:

if anyone is playing a glamour spec and says its fine.. you may not notice how hard you are being carried by your zerg. obviously you are getting loot bags and patting yourself on the back but all your spec is doing is tagging people that someone else is killing for you.

As a glam mesmer, aren’t you still blinding people within a specific area multiple times? Aren’t you reflecting projectiles back onto the attackers and protecting your allies? Aren’t you tearing off boons from the attackers while removing conditions off your allies? And while you’re doing that, aren’t you still doing at least some damage on top of all that with confusion?

I’m not defending the nerfs, I hate them (esp the blinding befuddlement nerf). But to say glam mesmers are useless and are being carried and only useful for tagging people is just silly and wrong.

This issue is, you don’t have to spec to be a glamour mes to do most of what you just said. I can change out my utility skills for feedback and null field plus change my illusion mastery to glamours cause blindness and have everything you just stated. This while not running entire glamour spec. The only reason to spec for a glamour build was the confusion, which is utterly useless now.

When I ran my glamour build in the past, I’d see numbers 1k-3k on a regular basis with an occasional spike of 4k+ when someone decided to run through those fields without being cleansed (by himself or his fellow zergers). This is pretty much non-existant since now its 500-1k damage (usually on the lower side) with basically a cap of 2k. I’m better off just throwing iberserker out there now.

Rolled my condition mes setup today and am extremely disappointed. Certainly, you still have the condition build up we always had, but simply no burst damage at all now. In the past, I was able to hit a target for 3-4k at least twice (even against a good player) during a fight to really put them in a bind thanks to the confusion but now that simply doesn’t exist. Now they have less confusion stacks on them thanks to nerf on blinding befuddlement and those stacks do far less to even make it a very slow death if I can kill them. I have great survivability but it doesn’t do much if you can’t kill your target or it takes 10+ minutes to do so.

saintange.5816:

wedo.3049:

I also have 1854 condi dmg without stacks, and 42% crit

Is 1854 your base condition damage?
because i have full exotic rabid gear(with run of the undead), weapons and accessories and i just reach about 1600 base condition damage. My build is 0/20/20/0/30.
Is there something i am doing wrong?

Getting 25 in chaos boosts your condition damage even more than going to 30 in illusions (another +5% of toughness goes to condition damage). He’s also probably using consumables so that is likely his amount with the usage of those foods.

I’m sorry, the best we can do now is get 5 stacks that last a good amount of time and an occasional boost of 8-10 stacks. So with all the traiting and work to build up to that, we know can do a whole 3k and that would be lucky to proc more than 1 time before the majority of the stacks drop off. Way to kill a whole set of viable builds. RIP condition mesmers. Even glamour mes are basically point less unless you get 5+ of them together to drop their glamours in the same area.

The only place condition mesmers were even viable in the first place was WvW. Lets put it another way, bleeding now does far more damage than confusion. Simply sad.