Guild Wars 2

I am currently trying out Berserker set, except I decided to stay with some Soldier Trinkets rather than going full glass, this is so that I don’t die instantly, you should try it out, it does reduce some damage, but you can always manage.

I want a snapjaw turtle

There’s not enough changes to ranger, I don’t want to play this anymore. I see warriors doing more damage with a longbow than any kind of ranger, I see thieves able to go zerker and blast finish a ranger in seconds, the pets, okay I like the fact they got more health, but seriously, not much useful by the fact that the character does not do any damage at all. I’m tired of people telling me to reroll, I’m tired of people not wanting me in zergs, I’m tired of being tanky and still taking a lot of damage, I’m just sick of everything anet has done to rangers since December. Each day I’m online I keep thinking to myself if I wan to go to a damage based ranger, or to a tanky based ranger. So I decided on going hybrid between both, and I died vigorously in wvw. I went damage, and died vigorously again. I went tanky, and died vigourously yet again. I go into spvp, and every duel I’ve had I pretty much lost. I go to spvp and everyone on the enemy team, no matter how much damage they’re taking, ALWAYS goes for the rangers first.

The description of " Their[ranger’s] loyal pets, which rangers tame and train, distract enemies while the rangers strike safely from a distance," is a real lie because when it comes to players, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO TO GO FOR, and I doubt the anets know that. Also, this description of “They[rangers] rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature to slay their targets,” is yet another lie! No matter how hard you try to use condition damage to slay foes or multiple foes, this statement never works out the way it’s supposed to. The signature weapon, which was supposed to be the bow, not only has a weak animation, but does so little damage compared to a warrior and a greatsword, a guardian with a mace, a thief with daggers, an elementalist with a sceptre, a necromancer with a staff, and an engineer with an kitten nal of weapons(CHEERS TO THE WEAPON MOST DISREGARDED BY THE COMMON RANGER).

Honestly, the ranger is really weak, I was expecting to have fun with mine, but the developers of this game have utterly ruined my experience, and have seriously make me lose hope for the class.

Silverkung.9127:

I love muddy terrain and use often.
If you are survival type muddy terrain is realy distrub and anoyying skill on right time.
It can cut zerg half(Head and tail) 2sec immobilize on pop and cripple who pass useful on wise situation.
Or you need catch someone just pop in front of way who pass and let them run in to it.

Too bad for this skill is no has combo field.
BTW. Funny to use sick’em nowday lol

Interesting, i’ll try that out. And at the poster, it’s more of survival than a trap.

Funny, my guild never creates a mindless blob, we are too organized to create what you call a mindless blob, hence why we have taken on a hundred at a time as a group of 35 or a little higher than that. We offer each other builds for survivability and certainly do not rely on full burst, nor full condition damage , but a hybrid of everything. When we die, it’s because we messed up in tactic or got flanked for creating too much of a tail; moreover, when rangers in my guild die from a zerg, it’s primarily due to our bad positioning(like straying away from the periphery without noticing, or not grouping up, etc). Since what you see happening to your rangers is obviously not working out, well, then maybe you should work with them instead of cracking jokes and making them feel worse about the class; theoretically, a guild is supposed to be like a family overall. If you only see bad rangers, well then don’t use that sample size to draw the conclusion for all rangers in the game; the reason I say this is because ranger is a difficult class to build so that it suits every one of your needs. Of course for the context of this post, I probably mentioned earlier that WvW is not intended for a 1v1 clash; WvW is Server Vs Server, if you want to roam alone in WvW, there would be absolutely no point in doing so because your roaming really isn’t helping your server win the battles. As far as mobility goes, there are survivability utility skills, warhorn buffs, and static fields and warhorn buffs that should come from warriors and elementalists to keep up with speed. Overall there is not much you should be complaining about other than your expertise as a commander orguild leader.

Shinoobi.1259:

My topic was WvW. I am a very experienced tPvPer and sPvPer, and I know all the “tools” a ranger is capable of executing. They offer a lot for small groups, because unfortunately, much of their “tools” are tagged with an HP bar. What I said is my opinion on how to be useful in zerg fights(I’m talking t1 skill lag zerg balls). If you’re on a smaller server, you’ll likely have more success with the common tanky/condi/ trap build.

In sPvP or tPvP, I’ll again say that you should bring what your party needs. If that is far point, point defense, or wrestling around in middle, you’ll need to readjust your build for each thing. There are much better resources for sPvP and tPvP building than… this place.

“A lot of time to master target attack with pet and retreat,” I’m pretty sure that is one click and two keybinds.

well to master it as the commander calls for regroups and bombs.

Chopps.5047:

Well, lukromero has a point about skill being able to account for a lot of production. Let’s take it in a different direction. What tools does ranger have to help the the zerg?

Hmm… A pet will have to be put on passive and stay close, that’s just a result of so many enemies running around it will chase (you will be tagging a lot too). This suggests pets like brown bear or moa or dog, something that does an aoe the group could use.

The tools I see are…

1) condition removal and resurrection (healing spring, brown bear, signet of renewal, spirit elite, healer’s celerity, trapper’s defense, search and rescue, fernhound heals, plenty of sources of quickness). In theory, a ranger spirit elite could resurrect up to what? 3 or 5 allies? Whatever that is plus in theory two (ranger and search and rescue) means that ranger can resurrect A LOT of downies.

2) Slow downs: ranger has many sources of slow downs (some of which are unblockable), not much need to elaborate on the usefulness of “slows” here but they include chill, cripple, immobilze, and crowd control. This pushes a trap/condition/offhand torch type approach

3) group buffs (spotter, traited spirits are awesome)

4) ranged power similar to luky describes but it’s conditional

Ranged power works best when you can keep gaps. It’s awesome in tpvp to pressure from a distance. But there’s problems with it. For example, yesterday, I tested berserker ranger with knights teinkets against knight warrior. I could not put a dent in his armor. Literally did nothing. Then I switched to my condition/immobilize trap build. Destroyed him handily.

Ranger power is best combined with a pet in action. In tpvp, this works great because the ranger pressures a point and the pet harasses the point. Enemy does not want to leave point and just getting him off point is a victory in a way. So it’s tough to kite the pet in a tight circle. But in wvw, this tends to be limiting. The pet is typically passive at the side and the ranger is in fact underperforming in my view.

Let me know what you think about that analysis, lukyromero.

I like it; you sir, are a true ranger. I’ve pointed this out on another forum post, but as clearly stated in the class description, “With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.” I just hate how people claim that they’re utterly useless in zergs, which in fact, is not true. I’m trying to point out that they can be if you’re skilled enough. Your analysis shows that you understand what’s supposed to happen in WvW zergs. Though, as a follow up comment, I would never run knight’s on my ranger, and in my personal preference, I’d always put my pet into where the meele train is at; what do I mean by this? Assuming your guild uses vent to communicate, when the forward commander calls for a bomb, you put your pet on a target where the meele train is, and when the commander calls for a regroup, you pull your pet back to the periphery. This can take a lot of time to master, which all eventually comes down to, once again,skill.

Shinoobi.1259:

Again, your grammar skills are inadequate, please learn that it’s ’you’re’ and not ‘your.’ Also, you don’t know anything about me; so you have a weak emphasis on your argument about you having played “At a more competitive level” than me. And common ranger?! I never said you were a common ranger! I don’t even know anything about you other than that you have poor grammar skills! And I am right, YOU are a follower, and you BAD MOUTH rangers. Also, as far as I can tell, you’re probably just another warrior or guardian that goes into youtube and server forums loking for a viable build to sustain your satisfaction. Please, shoot me. :/

Please stop derailing the thread with grammar accusations when your display of grammar in the quoted post is peppered with mistakes(run-on sentences, double punctuation, random capital letters, misspelling words…).

Rangers suffer in larger scale fights. This problem can be remedied by not joining the zerg in the first place. There is a lot of use in small roaming parties capping camps before the timer expires. Small skirmishes are where rangers shine. Use this to your advantage. If that playstyle is not for you, then I would suggest always keeping your pet on passive and use either support utility pets such as the fern or DPS pets such as the drake. Using your pet’s F2 ability will cause them to enter combat, but if you keybind the “go back” command, you’ll be in a good spot just dragging the pet back to you after the pet tries to run into sixty AoE circles. I personally enjoy enjoy using Barrage and Lightning Breath for nice AoE damage if I am to run with a zerg. Otherwise, use what your small skirmishing party needs, and do not try to make your square build peg fit into a circular party hole.

As far as group utility is concerned, your utility is your damage. The best you’ll offer, truly, is muddy terrain.

Again, if that’s all you can do, then you have a skill problem.

Lukyromero.6780:

Boreal.9826:

Lukyromero.6780:

Sol.4310:

Lukyromero.6780:

Don’t listen to the trolls above this post, they are as long as you know how to build them for zerg. The longbow should be the most effective AoE weapon along with the shortbow, and possibly axe(havent tried with axe yet, but very good for meele train). I do so much damage while zerging, and no; you shouldn’t have to give anyone speed or might; everything should be based on your jurisdiction. As a member of Os, I have zerged so many times, Enough to know how powerful rangers can be in one small zerg.

How are we Trolls? and please post this build you talk about, we all known rangers are weak in Open field PvP. Why do you think no one uses a ranger in GvG, cause its the weakest link… There decent at tower/keep fight’s but all it take’s is one decent thief in open field and your done for. Why cause the build’s you require to be decent put you at a high risk…..

Sigh, it’s never in a common ranger’s nature to post up his/her build simply because of the fact that building a ranger to perfectly suit your needs takes a lot of time, and for the most part, is not obvious like how you can build a warrior or a mesmer, although the one im about to show you may seem obvious, it isn’t, and it is only for zerg. But since you asked, beserker armor, soldier trinkets,Sigil of bloodlust on either weapon(whichever you roll better with), LB/SB 30-30-10-0-0, III VIII XI-VI VIII XI-III, pop barrage on incoming traffic zerg(to cause cripple), remain in the periphery, cast rapid fire and flank (theres a trait for that), switch to shortbow cast poison valley,

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Sorry, but if you run with a zerg busting group, you’d know that this type of ranger pretty much just melts instantly. Push through the front line and down they go. It’s so bad that my guild cracks ranger jokes whenever a zerg seems particularly glassy.

I run full cleric or pvt bunker 0/0/30/30/10, depending on what we’re doing, and I’m under no illusion that I’m not giving up a lot just to be able to survive as a ranger with my guild.

In fact, rangers are perceived so poorly that our policy is no more rangers. I know that’s the case with many serious WvW guilds.

It sucks, but that is just the state of the ranger at this time.

edit: I’m talking medium to large scale combat. Roaming, we’re fine IMHO. Not the best and definitely not the worst.

Honestly, as far as I can tell, you’re complaining about a skill problem. Stop trying to look for guilds that don’t look for rangers, and get your act together if you main one. Also, “Pushing through the front line, and down they go,” you should not be in the front line— EVER. If your guild is making a ranged focus class do that, then they are the idiots and not you. Obviously, you’re another person who claims that rangers suck; you said “our guild policy is no more rangers.” You can make that claim, but no matter what, it just shows how bad you are with the class. You obviously do not understand ranger, and you obviously lack sufficient skill to be one. I am so angry at you, I don’t even know where to start, also, your argument about the build I posted melting instantly, yeah, that’s another skill problem. learn to play the game, and quit being on forums just to insult the class.

Also, here’s a comment from one of your fellow warriors and guards that I read recently about a roaming ranger: “Ok so in one year of play time I have yet to die to a ranger, but I need to be clear about what happen to me a few nights ago. I ran into the best ranger I have ever seen and would have died if i hadn’t run my sweet little kitten off. This guy was incredible. I’m in an extremely high end guild and there were 4 or 5 of us trying to kill 1, yes 1, ranger. He did have npc help but that shouldn’t have matter. Normally I will fight a ranger and his buddies by myself in the middle of as many npcs as they need.
So now for the brunt of this. The ranger had such quick regen his health bar never moved, it appeared he was using one handed weapons I think it was sword/torch or sword/dagger, I may be wrong. Never the less my question to you all is, is anyone aware of this build and how it is played. I’ve been slowly working on a ranger myself and fell in love with this guys play style when i saw him play. It was a lot of regen’ing (rarely saw him actually heal) and he did a lot of dodging, moving very quickly around the screen.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!”
Obviously, what you complain about is a skill problem, just like all the other ranger trolls that come onto forums babbling about how broken they are. Truth is, youre just another statistic. End of story.

Boreal.9826:

Lukyromero.6780:

Sol.4310:

Lukyromero.6780:

Don’t listen to the trolls above this post, they are as long as you know how to build them for zerg. The longbow should be the most effective AoE weapon along with the shortbow, and possibly axe(havent tried with axe yet, but very good for meele train). I do so much damage while zerging, and no; you shouldn’t have to give anyone speed or might; everything should be based on your jurisdiction. As a member of Os, I have zerged so many times, Enough to know how powerful rangers can be in one small zerg.

How are we Trolls? and please post this build you talk about, we all known rangers are weak in Open field PvP. Why do you think no one uses a ranger in GvG, cause its the weakest link… There decent at tower/keep fight’s but all it take’s is one decent thief in open field and your done for. Why cause the build’s you require to be decent put you at a high risk…..

Sigh, it’s never in a common ranger’s nature to post up his/her build simply because of the fact that building a ranger to perfectly suit your needs takes a lot of time, and for the most part, is not obvious like how you can build a warrior or a mesmer, although the one im about to show you may seem obvious, it isn’t, and it is only for zerg. But since you asked, beserker armor, soldier trinkets,Sigil of bloodlust on either weapon(whichever you roll better with), LB/SB 30-30-10-0-0, III VIII XI-VI VIII XI-III, pop barrage on incoming traffic zerg(to cause cripple), remain in the periphery, cast rapid fire and flank (theres a trait for that), switch to shortbow cast poison valley,

<snip>

Sorry, but if you run with a zerg busting group, you’d know that this type of ranger pretty much just melts instantly. Push through the front line and down they go. It’s so bad that my guild cracks ranger jokes whenever a zerg seems particularly glassy.

I run full cleric or pvt bunker 0/0/30/30/10, depending on what we’re doing, and I’m under no illusion that I’m not giving up a lot just to be able to survive as a ranger with my guild.

In fact, rangers are perceived so poorly that our policy is no more rangers. I know that’s the case with many serious WvW guilds.

It sucks, but that is just the state of the ranger at this time.

edit: I’m talking medium to large scale combat. Roaming, we’re fine IMHO. Not the best and definitely not the worst.

Honestly, as far as I can tell, you’re complaining about a skill problem. Stop trying to look for guilds that don’t look for rangers, and get your act together if you main one. Also, “Pushing through the front line, and down they go,” you should not be in the front line— EVER. If your guild is making a ranged focus class do that, then they are the idiots and not you. Obviously, you’re another person who claims that rangers suck; you said “our guild policy is no more rangers.” You can make that claim, but no matter what, it just shows how bad you are with the class. You obviously do not understand ranger, and you obviously lack sufficient skill to be one. I am so angry at you, I don’t even know where to start, also, your argument about the build I posted melting instantly, yeah, that’s another skill problem. learn to play the game, and quit being on forums just to insult the class.

Sol.4310:

Lukyromero.6780:

Sol.4310:

Lukyromero.6780:

Don’t listen to the trolls above this post, they are as long as you know how to build them for zerg. The longbow should be the most effective AoE weapon along with the shortbow, and possibly axe(havent tried with axe yet, but very good for meele train). I do so much damage while zerging, and no; you shouldn’t have to give anyone speed or might; everything should be based on your jurisdiction. As a member of Os, I have zerged so many times, Enough to know how powerful rangers can be in one small zerg.

How are we Trolls? and please post this build you talk about, we all known rangers are weak in Open field PvP. Why do you think no one uses a ranger in GvG, cause its the weakest link… There decent at tower/keep fight’s but all it take’s is one decent thief in open field and your done for. Why cause the build’s you require to be decent put you at a high risk…..

Sigh, it’s never in a common ranger’s nature to post up his/her build simply because of the fact that building a ranger to perfectly suit your needs takes a lot of time, and for the most part, is not obvious like how you can build a warrior or a mesmer, although the one im about to show you may seem obvious, it isn’t, and it is only for zerg. But since you asked, beserker armor, soldier trinkets,Sigil of bloodlust on either weapon(whichever you roll better with), LB/SB 30-30-10-0-0, III VIII XI-VI VIII XI-III, pop barrage on incoming traffic zerg(to cause cripple), remain in the periphery, cast rapid fire and flank (theres a trait for that), switch to shortbow cast poison valley, keep flanking while on periphery, cast cripplying shot,cast flame trap(use targeting), proceed auto attack, and repeat. So easy. Pet choice, again, up to your jurisdiction; personally I prefer pets that support with boons, or pets that do range damage. Again, this is for zerg only, targeting skill may take practice, and if you stay off the forum long enough you should get better. I don’t want to give you my roaming build, because of course, you’re one of those prejudice hipster followers that go on forums and bad mouth everything they can about rangers.

Another thing is your comment about open field pvp. If you roam, you should develop your own build, not a zerg build; hence why they have different names. For the sake of being a troll, if you wanted to roam around and kill everyone on site, then go to spvp, find your own freaking 1v1 build, go to a dueling server, and clash with people there. WvW was intentinally designed for a clash between servers! Not a clash between 2 people! Sure PvE gear can play fine, but nobody cares about you having killed someone in wvw because honestly, 1 person is not going to do much for a server. Also, it’s “Builds require you,” you should look into learning some proper grammar along the way.

“you’re one of those prejudice hipster followers that go on forums and bad mouth everything they can about rangers.” and you called me common ranger when your the common ranger.

Just made me laugh. I’ve been playing Ranger at competitive level probably 1000x longer then you. So when you talk down to someone atleast make sure you know what your talking about.

Again, your grammar skills are inadequate, please learn that it’s ’you’re’ and not ‘your.’ Also, you don’t know anything about me; so you have a weak emphasis on your argument about you having played “At a more competitive level” than me. And common ranger?! I never said you were a common ranger! I don’t even know anything about you other than that you have poor grammar skills! And I am right, YOU are a follower, and you BAD MOUTH rangers. Also, as far as I can tell, you’re probably just another warrior or guardian that goes into youtube and server forums loking for a viable build to sustain your satisfaction. Please, shoot me. :/

Sol.4310:

Lukyromero.6780:

Don’t listen to the trolls above this post, they are as long as you know how to build them for zerg. The longbow should be the most effective AoE weapon along with the shortbow, and possibly axe(havent tried with axe yet, but very good for meele train). I do so much damage while zerging, and no; you shouldn’t have to give anyone speed or might; everything should be based on your jurisdiction. As a member of Os, I have zerged so many times, Enough to know how powerful rangers can be in one small zerg.

How are we Trolls? and please post this build you talk about, we all known rangers are weak in Open field PvP. Why do you think no one uses a ranger in GvG, cause its the weakest link… There decent at tower/keep fight’s but all it take’s is one decent thief in open field and your done for. Why cause the build’s you require to be decent put you at a high risk…..

Sigh, it’s never in a common ranger’s nature to post up his/her build simply because of the fact that building a ranger to perfectly suit your needs takes a lot of time, and for the most part, is not obvious like how you can build a warrior or a mesmer, although the one im about to show you may seem obvious, it isn’t, and it is only for zerg. But since you asked, beserker armor, soldier trinkets,Sigil of bloodlust on either weapon(whichever you roll better with), LB/SB 30-30-10-0-0, III VIII XI-VI VIII XI-III, pop barrage on incoming traffic zerg(to cause cripple), remain in the periphery, cast rapid fire and flank (theres a trait for that), switch to shortbow cast poison valley, keep flanking while on periphery, cast cripplying shot,cast flame trap(use targeting), proceed auto attack, and repeat. So easy. Pet choice, again, up to your jurisdiction; personally I prefer pets that support with boons, or pets that do range damage. Again, this is for zerg only, targeting skill may take practice, and if you stay off the forum long enough you should get better. I don’t want to give you my roaming build, because of course, you’re one of those prejudice hipster followers that go on forums and bad mouth everything they can about rangers.

Another thing is your comment about open field pvp. If you roam, you should develop your own build, not a zerg build; hence why they have different names. For the sake of being a troll, if you wanted to roam around and kill everyone on site, then go to spvp, find your own freaking 1v1 build, go to a dueling server, and clash with people there. WvW was intentinally designed for a clash between servers! Not a clash between 2 people! Sure PvE gear can play fine, but nobody cares about you having killed someone in wvw because honestly, 1 person is not going to do much for a server. Also, it’s “Builds require you,” you should look into learning some proper grammar along the way.

Don’t listen to the trolls above this post, they are as long as you know how to build them for zerg. The longbow should be the most effective AoE weapon along with the shortbow, and possibly axe(havent tried with axe yet, but very good for meele train). I do so much damage while zerging, and no; you shouldn’t have to give anyone speed or might; everything should be based on your jurisdiction. As a member of Os, I have zerged so many times, Enough to know how powerful rangers can be in one small zerg.

I roll a ranger, because I’m naturally attuned and determined to build a ranger. I main one, and in the game I enjoy being one. I agree that rangers are inevitably the most broken class in game, but no matter how much we beg, Anet is not going to care. I do pretty good in most spvp matches (and not just me! I see a bunch more rangers reaching the top of the list on their teams!), I do well in tourneys, I also support my guild, Os, in WvW. But what it comes down to in the end, is the determination and resilience you have to find the perfect build. As far as I’m concerned, There’s a lot of stuff that can be added to ranger, moreover, the damage a ranger can do with a longbow. The longbow is a key weapon in the idea of becoming a ranger(I’m not saying that it’s the best); for one thing, warriors do way more damage with a longbow than a ranger, also, the speed that arrows are being shot at, is absolutely atrocious. Another thing is the skills; rangers have little condition clearing as opposed to every other class. Okay, the healing spring, psht changing the healing done helped, okay, the signet still works(along with bear), but there is absolutely nothing that protects rangers from falling under conditions right after they were cleared. As far as pets go, well good job thinking about the pet…but bad job for not critically about the danger that rangers have to endure from other classes. But all the more, in order to be a ranger, you have to be able to cherish it; that’s my honest opinion, and I believe that it’s what it’s come down to.

NargofWoV.4267:

Lukyromero.6780:

First of all, ranger is not a class where you hop into and think you can build easily. This is probably the most complicated class in the whole game and people have trouble seeing the potential that this class holds. People who play ranger thing that just because they can do some fancy tricks with sword and dagger, it means that the build they’re using is the only way rangers can be good. THIS IN FACT IS NOT THE CASE, AS EVEN ANET PUT IT TO YOU STRAIGHT FORWARD ON THE CLASS DESCRIPTION: “With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.” KEY WORDS : ADAPT TO ANY SITUATION. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy to build a ranger, and on top of all that, this takes a lot of time to do. I personally have a warrior and thief along with my ranger, but unlike ranger, they are easy to build; I just put points here and there, and voila, I’m done. I play ranger and it gets more technical because the trees don’t give matching stats they way other classes do, let alone you have to find ways to connect different traits together.

Another thing is that people are crying about their pets no being strong enough to sustain your satisfaction. This is a really odd ideology for one thing that most rangers seem to disregard their pets. Your pets have to come from you as a connection; you have to make your pets able to work with you in a way you know that you can trust them to do something you want them to do. For me, I am nothing without my pet jaguar and jungle stalker. I simply have to love them for the amount of damage they do for me as i slowly devour my enemy using shortbow or axes. If your pet is dying constantly, then it’s a fact that you’re not into rangers. Again, this brings up the point about adapting to situations.

What is meant about adapting to situations? take zerk warrior or thief, no matter what, they’re not gonna stop trying to burst you, so what can you do to counter their burst? You see a condi necro and you know hes going to put a ton of conditions on you what are you going to do? These questions should come to mind a lot. Most of these can be answered by the use of your pet, the use quick wits, and the ability to adapt to whatever situation you’re presented with. This takes a lot of time and patience to work on, developing your play style, and making your pet useful are all very hard.

I wont go deep as to how I build my ranger because this is a build I’ve worked on for 2 months now, and of course, you shouldn’t look crouch over a build you see coming from other players in YouTube, you should find our own build and find ways to make it adaptable to any situation. It takes practice, patience, and above all, resilience.

take a look at this ranger, although he uses an apothecary build, he’s mastered situations rather well with sword and dagger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cK4CaTy24ZA

I’m not saying to copy him I’m jsut pointing out the fact that hes prepared for whatever is thrown at him and if you looked closely at his video, HIS PET does a lo fo work from once he pops signets.

Couple problems with your ideas in your post, first is you’re thinking adaptability on the fly is an easy thing to do, especially involving pets. I don’t have all their attributes memorized to know exactly what pet I should quickly put into my hot bar because the guy I see at clip range might be a condition Necro who may attack me so I need a condition removal…. was it Bear? Not to mention that the Bear is being enhanced in the next patch because its condition removal is deemed too weak, but glad you (ok not you but some here in general) think it has been exceptional up until now.

And If I am NOT a trap build, but one is needed, it isn’t so easy to say… Oh hang on, let me port to town, get my trap build purchased from a vendor, re gear, re signet… then be back to fight the fight in 15 min.

Adaptability comes from having a mechanic that is Adaptable on the fly, not one that is adaptable in 15 min and requires a few silver or a costly GEM purchase to make happen.

I completely agree with you, and thanks for clearing that out; I’m not trying to imply that that becoming adaptable is easy, I was trying to say that it’s something that takes time and patience to learn how to do. Also, what I was saying about being adaptable, pertains only to a situation you might be presented with, not that your build should be adaptable. As far as what I said about pets, I was referring to those people who say pets are useless; I was trying to point out that they can be used to your advantage, not that it has to be; I apologize if i went on several different tangents, I was typing this on they fly xD

First of all, ranger is not a class where you hop into and think you can build easily. This is probably the most complicated class in the whole game and people have trouble seeing the potential that this class holds. People who play ranger thing that just because they can do some fancy tricks with sword and dagger, it means that the build they’re using is the only way rangers can be good. THIS IN FACT IS NOT THE CASE, AS EVEN ANET PUT IT TO YOU STRAIGHT FORWARD ON THE CLASS DESCRIPTION: “With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.” KEY WORDS : ADAPT TO ANY SITUATION. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy to build a ranger, and on top of all that, this takes a lot of time to do. I personally have a warrior and thief along with my ranger, but unlike ranger, they are easy to build; I just put points here and there, and voila, I’m done. I play ranger and it gets more technical because the trees don’t give matching stats they way other classes do, let alone you have to find ways to connect different traits together.

Another thing is that people are crying about their pets no being strong enough to sustain your satisfaction. This is a really odd ideology for one thing that most rangers seem to disregard their pets. Your pets have to come from you as a connection; you have to make your pets able to work with you in a way you know that you can trust them to do something you want them to do. For me, I am nothing without my pet jaguar and jungle stalker. I simply have to love them for the amount of damage they do for me as i slowly devour my enemy using shortbow or axes. If your pet is dying constantly, then it’s a fact that you’re not into rangers. Again, this brings up the point about adapting to situations.

What is meant about adapting to situations? take zerk warrior or thief, no matter what, they’re not gonna stop trying to burst you, so what can you do to counter their burst? You see a condi necro and you know hes going to put a ton of conditions on you what are you going to do? These questions should come to mind a lot. Most of these can be answered by the use of your pet, the use quick wits, and the ability to adapt to whatever situation you’re presented with. This takes a lot of time and patience to work on, developing your play style, and making your pet useful are all very hard.

I wont go deep as to how I build my ranger because this is a build I’ve worked on for 2 months now, and of course, you shouldn’t look crouch over a build you see coming from other players in YouTube, you should find our own build and find ways to make it adaptable to any situation. It takes practice, patience, and above all, resilience.

take a look at this ranger, although he uses an apothecary build, he’s mastered situations rather well with sword and dagger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cK4CaTy24ZA

I’m not saying to copy him I’m jsut pointing out the fact that hes prepared for whatever is thrown at him and if you looked closely at his video, HIS PET does a lo fo work from once he pops signets.

I do believe that this is a good idea; I mean hey! What’s the use of keeping players that never get on?! It can be frustrating to know that someone might have given up on the game when we have already scheduled runs and wvw grouping.