Enginier in knight gear, every piece of armor and trinkets gives toughness. Tougness traits maxed. “Steal” hits for 7k -there goes half of my healt bar in one shot. I did not know im plaing an FPS where it takes 2 shots to kill you. Waiting for balance or other mmo.
Looks balance to me.
Thief’s dagger is the only melee weapon that does not cleave therefore it must deal the most damage. All other melee weapon sets cleave up to 3 target.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Steal
Yea ^thats dagger attack. So what it doesnt cleave? You want to “Steal” to be aoe? You shodowstep and steal ability from 3 opponents? With no activation time, no cast time, no time to dodge he just took 1/2 of my hp bar while im wearing most defensive gear i can. But ok its balanced. I’m not going to be prey for another Ezio-assain-wannab who just faceroll on keybord and wins, no skilzz involved.
It’s balanced in sPvP and that’s all that matters. Players have no problem handling thieves in sPvP, especially the thieves that rely heavily on CnD. The issue is culling in WvW and that’s it. Want a nerf? Not going to happen because of WvW.
This topic is about WvW not sPvP. I have no problem with thieves in spvp. And no i dont want a nerf. Let thieves giggle at big numbers. I want defence buff.
In this thread: Thieves saying thieves aren’t OP. I see noone has been able to answer my question about what other class can kill in 2 hits. I rest my case.
Next up: thieves saying “guard” skill for ranger’s pets is OP.
I will answer your question.
Warrior Kill shot. 1 hit at 1500 range.
Warrior Kill shot thats need adrenaline. Warrior Kill shot that have activation time 1 3/4 s. Warrior Kill shot that is so obvious that basicly Warrior is scraming out loaud
" Burst inc" If you have having trouble with Kill shot i say use what you all assasins-wannabe like to use: “L2P”
Enginier in knight gear, every piece of armor and trinkets gives toughness. Tougness traits maxed. “Steal” hits for 7k -there goes half of my healt bar in one shot. I did not know im plaing an FPS where it takes 2 shots to kill you. Waiting for balance or other mmo.
Looks balance to me.
Thief’s dagger is the only melee weapon that does not cleave therefore it must deal the most damage. All other melee weapon sets cleave up to 3 target.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Steal
Yea ^thats dagger attack. So what it doesnt cleave? You want to “Steal” to be aoe? You shodowstep and steal ability from 3 opponents? With no activation time, no cast time, no time to dodge he just took 1/2 of my hp bar while im wearing most defensive gear i can. But ok its balanced. I’m not going to be prey for another Ezio-assain-wannab who just faceroll on keybord and wins, no skilzz involved.
Yes, I know it is not a dagger attack. I was just talking about dagger damage in general. But for a 45sec F1 ability that you have to trait, that is balance.
A warrior’s axe F1 will crit for 10K w/o having to trait for it. What is your point?
Warrior Eviscerate lol. Eviscerate need adrenialine thats one. Its 300 range thats two. And please i have 1000h on Warrior and did never hit anyone in WvW for 10k with Eviscerate. You may hit some glass canon for 7k if you get luck . Its so easy to dodge from Eviscerate that that comparison just make me laugh.
Point is that defence doesn not matter in this game. You can have 3k armor and you go down after 2 hits by glass canon theif attaking from nowhere, with no chance to avoid his attack. Welcome to the Theif Wars where all other classes are just pray for almighty noob slayers thieves.
Enginier in knight gear, every piece of armor and trinkets gives toughness. Tougness traits maxed. “Steal” hits for 7k -there goes half of my healt bar in one shot. I did not know im plaing an FPS where it takes 2 shots to kill you. Waiting for balance or other mmo.
Looks balance to me.
Thief’s dagger is the only melee weapon that does not cleave therefore it must deal the most damage. All other melee weapon sets cleave up to 3 target.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Steal
Yea ^thats dagger attack. So what it doesnt cleave? You want to “Steal” to be aoe? You shodowstep and steal ability from 3 opponents? With no activation time, no cast time, no time to dodge he just took 1/2 of my hp bar while im wearing most defensive gear i can. But ok its balanced. I’m not going to be prey for another Ezio-assain-wannab who just faceroll on keybord and wins, no skilzz involved.
Enginier in knight gear, every piece of armor and trinkets gives toughness. Tougness traits maxed. “Steal” hits for 7k -there goes half of my healt bar in one shot. I did not know im plaing an FPS where it takes 2 shots to kill you. Waiting for balance or other mmo.
Whirlwind Attak gives you bonus evade.
Other skills like: Savage Leap, Eviscerate, Earthshaker, Bull’s Charge should do the same thing.
Warrior is my main and by main i mean that i wear full T3 armor, work on my Juggernaut and have 1140h played only on my Warrior. I don’t agree with op entirely but i must say that warrior is missing something in wvw/spvp. Its great in pve, its god of pve and i love it. But when i run in wvw i get frustrated. Constant cc like cripple, chill immobilized and you can just /wave and die. I run 3 shouts that remove my conditions with “Shake it of” that removes 2 conditions and still i get hard time with trying get into melee range. I use leaps like sword 2 and “Earthshaker” and other but most of the time its no use because you will get knockback, cripple. chill and immobilize in mid air.
Since lunch i played many builds. Some of them i found, some of them i made myself. I was using:
- Shout support build with shouts that heal and remove conditons
- i stop using it because i felt like a healer, a weak healer
- Sword/axe and Longbow with gear focused on condition damage
- it was fun using longbow burst on zerg knocking at tower gate but conditions are too easy to remove ( unless you fight other warrior) and you if you have brain you will just dodge out of longbow burst
- Idea was to take advantage of combo. You immobilize target land longbow burst at him, Savage leap at target- you get Fire Aura, youse axe “5” throwing burning bolts around.
*Axe/warhorn and Rifle
- I wanted hight burst- full berserk but later found out that Kill shot and Eviscerate are easily avoidable. Kill shot get dodged/blocked or you get blinded or stunned. Eviscerate is worst because you are about to land it and get blind, cripple. chill, immobilize sometimes before using it, sometimes in mid air.
- Hammer/Greatsword
- Good dps with good cc but same problem as before- Earthshaker easily stopped by conditions. Hundred blades is only a noob check- kills only those who don’t know how to dodge or don’t bother with stunn breakers.
Now use build that focus on using adrenaline burst attack. Idea was that i want to use my mechanic more often. I build adrenaline fast and took lower burst cooldown.
Problem is that warrior burst skills aren’t in my humble opinion powerful enough compare to other class mechanic. And by powerful i mean thats its so easy to avoid it. For example:
- you fight thief:
Thief: “OMG a Warrior!”
Me: “Come get some!”
Thief: “Ain’t gonna happen dude”/invisbilty
Me: “So where i should land my Earthshaker?”
Thief: “Backstab!”
Me: Ouch. 4 k hp down
Thief: Heartseeker! Heartseeker!/vanish/
Me: Im just gonna land Earthshaker on me! /slap the ground with hammer/
Thief: Dude i’m not even there. Heartseeker! Heartseeker! /vanish/
Me: /run around waiting for Earthshaker to come of cooldown/
Thief: ??? /somewhere/
Me: Here you are! Earthshaker!/blind-miss/
Thief: Heartseeker! Heartseeker! Heartseeker! Stomp! /dance
- you fight a mesmer
Mesmer: “ I like purple and cats. I should dye my cat purple!
Me: You gonna die!
Mesmer: O Lyssa what is this? I should summon my army of clones. I like my clones they look like me and i look awesome.
Me: Where is he?! Or it was she? There he/she is! Earthshaker! /slap the ground with hammer/ /Butterflies. over 9000 butterflies/
Mesmer: You know nothing about fashion! Die!
Me: /dead/
*you fight guardian
Guardian: Hey! You warrior! You sux!
Me: Earthshaker!/blocked
Guardian: You call it an attack! LOL! I will show you the meaning of damage/do something with greatsword/
Me: /dead/
- you fight ele
Me: /hear buzz of lighting/
Elemnatist: Hi and die!
Me: Earthshaker!
Ele: Sorry dude stability.
Me: Why is he running away? Hey come back to melee range!
Ele: Ok. Let me just channel that abilty
Me: Backbreaker!
Ele: Dude stability! I’m almost finish! You should run away! Oh i forgot there is no point I;m gonna catch always.
Me: He wasn’t lying about that catching always thing/ dead
Ok so i don’t want to write other classes because my creativity ends here. I hope you get my point.
My ideas to “fix” Warrior is;
- Make burst skill ignore block. blind. chill immobilized etc. and make harder to build adrenaline and maybe add longer cooldown to burst
Or
- After using burst skill you get 1-2 seconds immunity for conditions or 1 second of endure pain
Or
- More adrenaline you have- conditions wear of faster or after using burst skill you lose one condition? XD
Or
- While using burst skill you are immune to crowd control + conditions ( while you are mid air in earthshaker/Eviscerate while using Flurry etc.
In my whole post I’m not staying that Warrior is underpowered. Its mechanic its just not as effective compare to stealth, clones etc.
Or maybe this whole wall of text is about nothing and i just need l2p.
Sorry for my bad english- its not my first language.