Guild Wars 2

Zep it doesnt matter if its Canandians / wellfare living easy mode pve hero’s or NASA alliens.

At this point WvW has no meaning or doesnt reflect the (real score) and even that doesnt mean much.

What means alot to us are epic battles and fair fights.
Not getting spawncamped in the morning for 2 hours retake the whole map and lose it a few hours later when we log of

The people on your server doing the night capping is giving your daytime french players a bad name.
Offcourse some dont care about reputation, but for some it means everything.

Far Shiverpeaks wants to be known as ferocious fighters with honor.
Desolation wants to be known as ferocious fighters with honor.

No no no Any1 asking blocking / nerfing points or anything like that are wrong.
Australlians Asians or other time zone’s have all the rights of other time zone’s have.

But the main problem is that there arent many servers to balance diffrent time zone’s

I play in Europe and yes we play versus the French Vizunah Sqaure that does night capping.

Its lame from our PoV as both Far Shiverpeaks + desolation do not contain counters to prevent it unless we skip sleep + work

The only solution to make this more balanced is to match servers with 24/7 WvW versus other 24/7 WvW servers

Absurd people ask to block Australlian or USA brothers to play the game lolz

There just have to be made adjustments in balance ^^ problem solved

Uhm if you bought it and press F you gain control of it allready right ?
Its your siege even if others helped build it.

Or iam missing something ?

When i put down a siege and come back later and see some1 using it i can press F and regain control of my siege weapon.

It should never been put into a WvW zone to begin with….
Ive seen a total of 30/40 people at a jumping puzzle….30/40 people is quite a number you miss to defend or attack positions.

Like how its griefed tough, might going to get some fun afterall this week in WvW

Seems not all FULL servers want to be lame and cap when theri opponents sleep, ever tought about that ?

Desolation / Far Shiverpeaks both full servers, both contain hardcore WvW guilds.
Yet they dont feel the need to steal / towers / keeps.

We are not like you French, honor you opponents when they dont WvW, something French could do, they have a choice

But lets see and wait that this Friday will bring.

if its another matchup versus VS, i either stop WvW for the time being or perhaps try to get a discussion going about joining USA / Australlia / Asia players to make sure this wont happen again.

Lets wait and see what the near future brings and what needs to be done about it, 1 thing is for sure, you can ask people to skip sleep for a night to prevent this kitten.
Most dutch / scandinavian work and need to get up at 06:00 / 07:00 to go to work, maybe french has to many people living in welfare ?
Or dont need sleep ?

Either way sollutions must be found, this isnt fun for any1.

Doesnt matter what time in the night you french recap whole maps.
People allready /afk and we cant seem to get more then 20/25 serious pvp’s inside Eternal anymore.

I dont blame you guys anymore, we can only hope to fight servers like Desolation who dont need player versus gate guilds to take lead.

Friday moment of truth, if we get matched versus VS again it might be time to /quit for the time being untill this is match making is made alot better

DemonCow.5328:

Sinoby.8945:

No, it is not like that in EU.
I don’t want to whine, since now Im kinda ok with it, but just to explain:
Server A and B have same primetime, and fight each other,both win some and lose some.Then at 2-3AM server B goes to sleep, but server A still has an active group of players. They cap everything and go to sleep.
Next day server B has to take back everything that was taken last night, but they meet opposition fro server A since their prime time is the same. So server B can not capture whole map (don’t forget we have server C here too, which does want his pice of the pie).
But whatever B and C have done during their daytime will get destroyed by server’s A night krew.
That is how it works, and that is why it is concidered a problem.

Guess which server should be ranked higher….

Think about it, they are even during peak hours, and one is significantly better during off peak hours. That server will move up, the others will move down and the matchmaking will choose new matchups the next week. It is going to take a couple of iterations of week-long matches to get things right.

But what if Server A is ranked #1 and server B ranked #2 on the hall of fame / Ranking list ?
What happens then ?

Does server A Ranked #1 fight Server G ranked #8 who also have a nightcrew ?
Iam realy curious about that

Many points made, many posts written.
Maggnus named a few points that can be used by Anet to make WvW more fun.

It doesnt have to be DaoC copy, but i expected a little more from the maps.
In youtube people talked about massive maps, well massive comapred to Alterac Valley

There should be a little more focus on small objectives like Spawnpoints to make it a little more dynamic.
Also we could use 1 map 10x the size of borderlands with many spawnpoints and strategic locations / keeps / orbs / towers / forts etc etc.

And most importandly Free transfer needs to stop now…..it realy does.
Far shiverpeaks had 2 hours queue after the WvW list got reported queeu increased to abnormal time’s ive been in a queue for 5 hours to get into a Borderlands…

Server balance is not getting effect with free transfers Anet…..Hey my server lose !!! migrate to winning server !!!
Hey this server lose !!!! migrate to the new winning server !!!

Or read the forum and check the reported WvW ranking list and instandly transfer to the best ranked server.

It was a huge mistake if you ask me.

But lets wait and see, Anet brought us a very good game
They worked very hard the past years and GW2 is still a little baby making their 1st steps like any new mmo does.

It needs time to grow and mature….give them the time to do so even if things look like total kitten now.
Or just quit untill things and balance settle down.

Great post Maggnus

Lets build helicpters while we add it and mae nuclair mobs to wipe out a single server i bet Asura can create them with easily

Jorjeis please stop using expensive words when the rest of your post had the intelligence of a dropped on the head donkey.
Dont like to read people cry’s for assistance ? dont click the thread.

It has nothing to do with canadians / star trekkers in the night or Nasa releasing Aliens whatever.

Its about making WvW fun for everyone involved.
This can be achieved with balance, something that is being worked on hopefully.

Getting roflstomped for 24 hours aint fun getting roflstomped for 7 days is even worse getting roflstomped for 14 days is /rage quit uninstall GW2.

Anet needs to make sure that servers who contain 2 diffrent time zone’s or have alot of people who play at night matching other servers who do the same.

People lose interest in WvW and are still queueing but just go afk when they are inside.
Using up slots for people who wanne WvW even with a massive imbalance between day and night.

Seriously seems we need to merge our USA/ Aussies brothers to Europe or we migrating to USA if you want to have balance inside WvW.

Anets need to take lead in this or players keep jumping and quiting and jumping and quiting.

Offcourse nightcapping is fair, if the oponents have a similar force inside the same map.
It aint fair when there is zero resistance.

it creates muliple problems for servers who are up against night capping servers.

1. Fully upgraded enemy keeps / towers
2. fully filled suply’s inside all towers / keeps
3. full build up siege equipment on every tower / keep

Its a massive advantage versus server who cannot / doesnt have people willing to skip hours of sleep.

When servers who do that are matched against server who have similar night crews then i call it balanced.

Great post Racio

DeadAirRT.1324:

The problem is not that escorting doesn’t deserve a reward; the problem is that if you have an easily repeatable task with minor interference then it will be abused.

^this

I did walk with dolyaks when there was not much going on, but i saw some people doing ot for hours and the group doint it became bigger and bigger and bigger.

The main reward for running with dolyaks is making sure it arrives at the location you need them the most.

I realy hope you are right Kingface, and i realy hope we do not have the same matchup next week

It would create alot more imbalance and that is not good for servers who are in dire need of more people inside WvW.

No guild would transfer anymore to lower / lesser servers then the top bracket.

Wiran makes a good post about it.

Agreed with all points well made sugestions and a few more can be added.

Remove any PvE activities inside WvW.

Map completion
Jumping puzzle
Wood / Ore / Plants
Vista’s etc etc etc

People that have no intention to pvp are queueing up there are already heavy queue time’s on most servers, letting people queue that have no desire to pvp queu up for pve objectives only makes it more frustrating.

About the map and seeing where all your team mates are needs to be implemented.

Just a few hours ago it seemed like we only had 20 active people inside Eternal Battlegrounds….
We spammed /t for 10 minutes to assist our keep but not more then 20 people we there in that time frame, wich is kinda strange as it should be 150v150 / 160v160 per map right ?

Great post man

Hmm i wonder how Anet is going to balance server VS / FS they are ranked #1 and #2 :P
letting us drop a bracket means no fun for ranks number 4 /5
Letting us stay in the bracket means / quit

Friday / saturday is rematching day is it ?

Devildoc.6721:

PVP should not cause equipment damage as it discourages people from PVP’ing and it also discourages taking risks which can result in epic fights.

You can’t go into PVP of any kind and expect never to die and to be able to avoid dying. Yeah you can mitigate it to some degree by always running with a zerg and taking out easy safe targets, but that’s not fun. If you’re going recon, going behind enemy lines, you have to anticipate that maybe the enemy will see you, catch you and kill you. Or maybe you’re attacking a heavily fortified keep, while people are manning cannons that pretty much 1 shot players. Do you want to encourage them to just not play and go back to PVE? Keep repair bills in WvW.

Do you want epic fights where people take risks? Have them have nothing to personally lose.

Yup myself doesnt care much at lower levels for repair costs, but when playing with my main…kitten14 silver for 2 or 3 death is adding up and making you think twice to finish your nukes to repel enemy’s

I can only agree with disabling this for PvP, as of right now higher levels are going broke real fast and stop dying or trying.

If the incomme was higher in WvW then it woulnt be a real problem but it can take 4 hours to siege keeps with death and retry’s

Realy hope Arenanet is monitoring this situation or we see people running naked soon!

By some comments we should all quit our jobs and dive into wellfare to play WvW 24/7 and have a little more balance ?
Thats the solution they want it seems rather then think about it and assist comming up with sollutions.

Yup perfect balance = imposible, there has to be a winner and a second place and a third place.
But the way battles are won or lost makes all the diffrence.

No1 wants to resume play in the morning to get spawncamped for 2 hours untill you have some decent numbers to repell the enemy’s.

And from there on its an massive uphill battle to regain controll over your own lands that are mostly upgraded and full of sieges to make your life even harder with lower numbers then the enemy’s

It takes alot of effort for the people who play in the early hours to regain controll.
And it created a shockwave on our server to…people are already losing any sence of trying to win and upgrade forts.

They get taken anyway when they are going to bed so is it worth it ?
I realy hope Anet is finding some epic solutions to this, as the upcomming 4 days versus the server we play against are bad enough, let alone we face them another week.

I think many will tranfer off or .quit if they bought GW2 for WvW.

USA have it worse i think ? they have Australia / Asia added on their servers if iam not mistaken ?
So they might have a bit more balance unless all Aussies / Asians ramp up on 1 server instead of 2 /3 /4

EU is abit diffrent, we dont have such large diffrence in time zone’s compared to USA.
I think our biggest diffrence is +- 3 hours give or take :P

But one thing is sure there is nothing worse then playing in the top brackets with your current server and wake up to see the whole map is taken and upgraded….

Points or no points it doesnt matter much, getting your map back when its fully upgraded or getting spawncamped even if your the second best server in the world is not balanced and have a huge impact on morale and gameplay.

Solutions dont come easy onthis one, but something has to be done….or it wont end well with these week long battles getting 1 sided like right now.

travosaga.6089:

Well now I’m curious. Is this a problem exclusive to the French servers? Maybe the United States should team up with our British buddies across the pond and do the same thing. Scandavians and Dutch can join too. You guys seem like a friendly bunch.

Heh we talk english only in chat, so no gibberish language

Thing is as follows in EU:

Vinunah Sqaure ranked #1 – French
Far Shiverpeaks Ranked #2 – Dutch / Scandinavian / language english
Desolation Ranked #3 – speaked language English
Riverside Ranked #4 German

French taking massive lead its imposible to close the gab as they have people taken all 4 WvW maps at the middle of the night.

Maybe if Arenanet doesnt match servers that play 24/7 we need to ask people from other timezone’s to defend realms.

I can tell you know that over half Far Shiverpeaks stand afk in WvW doing jack daniels and sing songs about french cheese and wine

One should expect some sort of balance after 24 hour matches for 20 days + beta days.
But nothing even come close to it, when you check the WvW section there are very loud voices screaming for some more balance (me included).

Our main problem is that we fight a server that plays when evry1 else is asleep and gaining 50/60k points in 1 night.
Our diffrence versus # 3 is 30k points take or give.

Hope Anet is aware of the many mis matches that are going on and do not put us versus the same server for another week.

Its very hard to set up servers within perfect balance, but some servers are in another league compared to the rest.

Lets pray Anet has their fingers on it and change it for the good next week :P

Heh GW2 doesnt have healers

Heals have a very long cooldown you need to dps / buff / heal and find that sweet spot in your rotation / traits / weapons.

You cannot expect to get full credit for tossing in a healing rain once in a while

badges come from killing blows in downstate, you can achieve that in 2 ways, the F key or the last damage blow in their down state.

No its because people get tired of it real fast and want to let Arenanet know there is a problem.

You guys dont seem to understand that, but for Desolation and Farshiverpeaks this song is already real old, and it continues for 4 more days.
And maybe another full week as we are still second place and we are already #2 in EU, so……..

But for you guys it seems fun

Expect many more posts of this in the upcomming days.
I bet if we need to do this another week many more will quit.

You know we already fight with around 100 people less in WvW ? 100 people seem to just stand afk somewhere gathering / jumping puzzle / making french jokes.

We lost Durios 15 min ago to Desolation – 15/20 people was our main force…go figure.
Far Shiverpeaks = tired of it and can say its likely to boycot WvW at this point by queueing and /afk

I cannot speak for our whole server offcourse, but 20 man is our main pvp force atm, maybe 30/40 tops no idea where all the other are inside Eternal….

Its just a server indication its not the current population playing it seems.

But its ok we know you have people that love to bash keep doors for 5 hours on end without any resistance.

Your repuation is damaged so bad already, not that you guys care but still.

You cant beat yourself on the chest saying we are the best…..we will never know do wo ?

Let those french enjoy their night shifting player versus gate day in day out untill they get matched (hopefully real soon) versus other servers that do the same.

Cant wait to see some server that doesnt depend on night shifters.

We just lost Durios, total players that wanted to assist 20….20 real pvp’rs paying attention…
Dunno where all the others are in Eternal but it seems 140 dont care anymore and just take up slots to afk and do whatever they are doing except doing pvp.

Hope Desolation wins second place so we can see something else then those cheesy french

Anet needs to set 24/7 servers versus 24/7 servers problem solved.

Most of the Far Shiverpeaks players doesnt even bother anymore.
Keep scoring those points when 95% of the WvW players sleep.

Leet skillz them French inz ze nightz, hardcore WvW guilds versus gate’s <3

Igolbug.7295:

You just said it right there, at night you guys don’t try you sit around at the jumping puzzle and whine.

If you were really the #2 server because of your skills then you could slow them down, but you are probably #2 server because of your numbers just like they are #1 because of their numbers.

People sit at the jumping puzzle at day time now not at night…..read before posting
We dont have a midweek night shift like Vizunah Sqaure has…
We shoulnt be matched againt them next week, but we will.

24/7 server should be fighting 24/7 servers = evryone happy ?except the people who dont like a challenge and want a easy karma ride at night when there is zero oposition.

Lets hope your right Kingface

My thread isnt made becuase we are losing and #2 but to create a fun WvW expirience for any participating server with as much balance as posible to provide epic battles on any time of the day.

I never said to lock out Austrialian players or Asia players or whatever time zone we are from.

Last weekend was so epic in WvW….yesterday and today is totaly diffrent.
The only thing that i hope is gone this weekend is all PvE objectives inside the WvW maps.
They have no place inside that envirement, 30 people standing at a jumping puzzle is 30 less people to defend or attack positions.
And not to mention those players dont even like WvW and are taking up slots for people who are already standing on hours long queues.

GW2 community = 1000x better then any other community lets keep it that way

Kingface.9781:

No, what can be done is to be patient and the worldwide ranking will do the rest.

They have already on Europe side top bracket Vizunah Aqaure – Far Shiverpeaks – Desolation – Riverside those 4 servers are the top 4 in rankings.
Its not going to change anytime soon.

Desolation switch with riverside i think this saturday after the 1 week battle ?
Far Shiverpeaks will remain second this week and the week after and the week after that while Vizunah Sqaure will remain #1 this week the next week and the week after that…

Its the main problem of being the top #2 server
Even if they boot us down to the 2nd bracket we will be right back in the 1st and it solves nothing.

Maybe for other brackets more balance will come in the next few weeks, but not for the top bracket in Europe.

Thats why i made this posts, if we would change into another bracket it would be diffrent for 1 or 2 weeks, but we all know how the other servers are going to end versus #2 in EU…that aint going to be fun for them either.

Reading all posts in this thread it seems the only solution is putting the 24/7 server against the same 24/7 servers.
Or beg for USA / Australian servers to join a Dutch/ Scandinavian community on Far Shiverpeaks, but that is not what we should be doing…
What about #3 who would go up against us….see the problem :P ?

I would realy like to see what Arenanet is thinking about servers on USA / Europe who play 24/7 in the top bracket

stealthmonkey.1563:

USA / Europe / Australia / Asia put all those servers who have 24/7 WvW going on against each other ?

This system is already in place. Once the www starts cycling, higher ranked servers will be fighting higher ranked servers. I’m unsure what you’re suggesting happens that isn’t already starting to happen?

Also, accusing people of flaming because they legitimately disagree with your point serves no purpose.

Europe server list in WvW top 3 atm is Vizunah Sqaure <—#1 Far Shiverpeaks <—#2 Desolation <—#3
Time 11:06 – 18-9-2012
Points Vizunah 153k —- Far Shiverpeaks 95k – Desolation 65k
15-16-10-1 <—Vizunah Sqaure 7-4-1 <—Far Shiverpeaks 2-4-1<— Desolation
We are currently ranked 1 – 2 – 3 in Europe and are doomed to keep playing versus them untill we lose on purpose or some intervantion is taken we will remain #2 for god knows how long

Last weekend we had a 10k points lead it all was gone on monday and you see the score its tuesday and many days to extend this imbalance….
End score doesnt represent the real score if you look at how we did in the weekend when people dont have to go to work.

it was balanced and we had EPIC fights its nothing compared how Wvw was going on monday….people dint even try anymore and just stood at the jumping puzzle whining about this and hoping something is done to create more balance or top put Viznuah Sqaure verus other 24/7 servers.

No1 wants 1 sided matches right ?
I think we all agree that battles should be fought and duked out in skills not off time hours, or servers who has 24/7 guilds night capping and taking a 50k lead in 1 night!

I understand there has to be a winner and a loser…but it is the way you win what makes you stand out of the other servers.
And pls dont come here with war aint fair and crap like that its a video game, it should resemble a little more balance then real life wars

It seems the only solution is to put 24/7 servers against 24/7 servers. as right now they are in their own league with not 1 server posing a threat.

AXLORD.2045:

I think The Sims or Wii Sports should fit you better. Why should people stop playing when you go to bed ?

Plus it’s not like there is anything big to win in WvW, being 1st/2nd/3rd doesn’t bring anything except small PvE boost, which are nearly useless for the WvW player who invest time in WvW objectives. And even with your suggestions, the servers currently winning will buy the immunity, and if you’re not able to take back objectives during day-time now you won’t be able to de it after, nothing will change.

A 24/7 war is not a daily-5-hours-long-battleground, it’s time for people to understand that. Whining all day long only makes your server look bad.

Then put 24/7 servers versus 24/7 servers ?

USA / Europe / Australia / Asia put all those servers who have 24/7 WvW going on against each other ?

I bet if there is 1 gaming studio who can pull this off then its Arenanet, this mmo has a massive potantial to become #1 mmo for many many years.
On all fronts this game has made wicked impressions not only on revieuw site’s but also its playerbase.

The developers and forum moderators are involved, they communitcate with their playerbase on even level.
I have not seen this in any mmo at this level.

I think in the end we all wanne fight servers with perfect balance and resistance do we not ?
Maybe scrap immune buffs and put 24/7 servers in 1 pool ?
Bring solutions to this thread not flaming / trolling / rage and hate.

Think what we can improve on WvW and PvP Anet listens and iam sure they see this is becomming an unfair problem for some servers.

it is no fun to wake up and see a 60k lead on the other server and then joining WvW to get spawn camped for 2 hours long untill you have enough people inside WvW to fight an uphill battle to regain your towers and keeps.

Bring your toughts here in this thread instead of flaming guys.

You can still cap Suply camps and make sure you side have 100% filled keeps / towers you just cannot cap Upgraded keeps from guilds who payed a fee to protect their keep when they are asleep for a few hours.
offcourse this cannot be used on daytime.

If Arenanet wants WvW balanced something has to be done.
If you play on a diffrent time zone then move to the USA / Europe who match your time zone ?

If this is going to continue then Server number 2 and server number 3 are doomed to always play versus servers number 1 who can never ever be defeated due to scoring so many points when their oponent are sleeping.

You can this balance ? or you do not want balance ? there is a diffrence, servers should not be doomed to play versus servers for all time if they havent got people on them to night cap a map 100%.
Maybe put those servers versus USA servers who also play 24/7 ? thats balance.

And what i dont understand is why cant you have fun doing something else ingame instead of hitting 300 gate’s in the night ? cant you do something more beneficial with your ingame time then that ?
GW2 doesnt provide more fun then hitting gate’s each night ?

Come on people…..it creates an unfair balance and you know it.

-At Raf i asume you play on USA server with Australian people ?
Then in time you will play versus servers who also have 24/7 wvw going ?

In Europe there is only 1 server doing that as far as i know, and thats a french server named Vizunah Sqaure.
They are ranked 1 while we are ranked 2…….we dont get matched versus other servers.
And even if we lose on purpose and get matched versus #4 – #5 then it would be a clear devestation on our advantage and would create another imbalance for them.

Whats wrong with only capping Suply camps and building sieges on your forts when you have zero oposition ? you still make your server better in WvW, you just dont create inbalance…

There is plenty to do in GW2…even if that doesnt mean hitting 400 gates in the night you can do plenty of other stuff to make sure your server can kick butt.

Kayato.9178:

So I have to play on eu prime time, then switch to US server with so much lag and continue to fight without friend or guild. And this every day.

Will you pay my gem transfer ? What is the good hour to switch and stop to play on eu server ? What time do you go to bed ?

Like WvW has 30 ping now ? you dont have 8 seconds delay with 300 people duking it out on screen ? your point is moot at best 8 seconds or 8.3 seconds doesnt matter a bit do it ?

You can still cap all suply camps and make sure your server as 100% capped suply’s in all towers / keeps / even Stonemist and other major keeps <——-Massive advantage other server could only dream of.

You dont have to switch of you dont want to brother….but capping 100% of the map is just lame and makes your oponents stop making an effort…
Its a 100% uphill battle for all your opponents already when they wake up and need to siege towers / Blockade walls / Keeps with 100% full suply’s.

Not to mention all the siege’s you can buil din the meantime to repel attacks from small roaming gangs in the morning.

If you work on daytime and can only play at night hours join USA servers ? this aint WoW where your forced to play on EU or vice versa for that matter.
+ woulnt it be more fun when you have actual resistance when playing WvW ?
Or you dont want resistance and just easy karma farming ?

I dont understand whats fun about it……its gate hitting time after time after time without any resistance….
You take an unfair advantage in any way posible….
Its get 1 sided as many people just dont bother anymore and just give up as they know in about a few hours all will be gone again and again and again.

Ashame you guys dont see how you hurt WvW balance with this sort of gameplay…

Maybe Anet needs to put 24/7 server versus 24/7 servers to resolve this, thing is we are stuck at #2 and will not drop a place to fight another bracket of servers…..

These posts gets more vocal by the day…..untill this stuff is resolved in a proper way where all sides win.

There are many many problems with balance / population / active players in Borderlands standing afk or doing jumping puzzles and not making your server win.

ive made a sugestion about night capping and pve objectives, but a strong server should be battled with combined forces.

If 100 of you and 100 of your enemy enemy’s join forces you should be able to make a dent and stop their progresion.

WvW has many flaws that ruin the fun atm, losiing in fair battles aint on eof them, but balance should be roughly even, if not combine forces and start roflstomping then on 2 fronts

To be real honest, the 5 hours queue + many other flaws inside Borderlands is starting to get old real fast.
Actions are needed on a fast pace if you ask me, unless they want to lose many many players who bought GW2 for the sole reason to WvW.

Remove all Mining / Wood / Plants
Remove Jumping Puzzle
Remove 100% Map Completion
Remove anything that hasnt a PvP objective

Night capping – Let guilds buy a immunity buff that makes keeps / Towers immune for capping for a set amount of time that can only be activated from set hours.

This will prevent Player versus Gate guilds ruining the whole atmosphere inside Borderlands.
Its horrible to wake up and see all your work demolished in a few hours of sleep.

Not only that, but by the time you wake up you fight an uphill battle versus keeps / Towers that are Tier 3 upgraded and have 40 arrows charts / Catapults / Balista’s not to mention the walls inside every Borderlands (except Eternal) are forts on their own.

Suply camps can be captured 24/7 offcourse.

As of now i have no interest to play WvW anymore and it seems many people who bought GW2 for the sole reason to WvW are already done with it.

Waking up and seeing the pie 100% sliced for 1 faction has totaly ruined any sence of progresion.
Not to mention you cannot make the gap smaller as each night the night hero’s make a 40/50k lead in points if not more.

Iam willing to pay 10 gold for that immunity buff btw, a guild who claims a keep need to invest in it.
All members of the guild should donate if they like WvW.

In the meantime /Planetside 2 beta

Good thing all classes can do range damage when they want, gun / bow is a great tool to use in zergs.
I dont understand why so many a re negative…what you wanne do with melee ? suck up 200k damage and mollest 20 people with charge / 1k blades walk back to your zerg turn your camera and see 20 people death ?

if you have a Thief / Mesmer on your side yo u pull that kitten off btw, but you need time it perfectly.

Zergs vs Zergs is outlasting, any damage you can pump out from range adds to the total damage on 1 unlucky soul that gets focus fired, yo guys use Call target in zergs right :P ?

Warrior can do some serious pain at range, unlike other mmo’s

Once you upgrade your Tower / Keep to Tier 3 and put 15 people on the walls manning Balista’s / Arrow charts / Catapults / Cannons its realy easy to hold a tower / Keep.

The only way to take a well defended tower or keep is with nuking down the side’s rather then the Gate.

Once the Walls are down the best zerg wins.

Ive been in Stonemist versus 2 servers and hold it for 4 hours…

ive seen much worse WvW in regards to stat scaling :P
I have a 80 Ranger and a Warrior / Thief can get my health to zero in a matter of seconds.
Also make sure you are NEVER RUNNING ALONE !!!! at 80 i have 12 /14 silver repairs <—-this adds up real fast when running solo

Traits + gear + level makes a diffrence, glass cannons or Toughness healing specced traits also make a huge impact.

Far Shiverpeaks contains Dutch / Scandinavian population, we can get along real good.
Why should we tranfer to a strange server ? and if we do we prolly end up right back at #2 versus the french….

It doesnt solve anything and what about the other servers who end up at #2 and #3 ? they face the same problems…

Offcourse people speak up about it on the Forums, its the only place to talk to Anet / Desolation / VS…
Even EU french getting tired of this, its giving them bad rep, while last weekend on day time we had EPIC EPIC EPIC EPIC battles X1000

Now its monday, 5+ hours in queue and 50 people at akittenjumping puzzle doing nothing….
We cant even attack Klovan or SM with 20/30 active people….

Pray its friday again and hope it has the same level of epicness we had last weekend.

Already getting tired of 5/6 hours long queues and nightshifters doing a clean sweep when evry1 sleeps.

At this rate WvW is fail….even without your posts about buggs WvW is boring zerg vs walls.

Cant queue with guild

Cant make a raid.

Cant prevent night shifters from recapping 100% of the map.

Cant attack towers keeps when 50 people are busy in jumping puzzles or exploring./ farming ore’s / plants / wood

WvW is losing appeal real fast without intervention in buggs and the things i listed above.

Had massive fun in the weekend tough epic battles, today its horrible….not worth playing anymore untill the weekend starts and the real pvp’rs have time to queeu up and make a diffrence.

5 hours queue at Far Shiverpeaks….and free transfers are still open…

Do you know what most people on Far Shiverpeaks do atm ? jumping puzzles and chatting about your mad skills of awesomeness in the night.
Whole chat is whining about it, none is making an effort to attack anymore.

20 people going Klovan….thats our main attack force, we cant seem to sport more then 20 people for attacks…

They dont bother anymore, good work tough you get what you wanted right ?
No opposition to fight, just nuking down 20 people who are willing to try with your massive mad skill super WvW guilds ?

We show up in the weekend again, have fun tonight bro’s and watch out for those Mad Gate’s of Doom when you retake 100% of the maps again.

Desolation is a good server to fight, honest warriors on the battlefield, offcourse yo can sandwitched sometimes, it happens to FS and VS and Desolation at times.

Still this issue aint about crying to be #1 or #2 or #3 in the list of fame in EU, its about losing a whole map full off upgrades over a few hours sleep….

But its been mentioned more then enough, We shall see what Anet can do about this.
1 thing is for sure, You french already had a bad name, and your not making it better.

No comment Angel, you proved all my points with a few screenshots.
But hey that 500 member troll guild aint canadians or whateve alien race playing at night time’s !!!

Its just Dedicated mad skills pur WvW guilds who like to play versus gate and show the EU their wicked mad skills on the reinforced gate !!!

Bravo VS you guys are the creme de la creme of Europe well done and we admire you dedication on the night time to show us how leet you people are.

Again /golfclap

Agreed and signed….when you get disconected you should be able to relog back in withina certain time frame.

Now you can get back in a 5 hour queue…..

Its no use it will remain the same player versus gate guilds that makes the top bracket a farce……

We never know who is beating who with a few hero’s of the gate’s at night time.

The top bracket fight a uphill battle from the morning glory till the moon starts shining.

Each morning will be the same and it goes like this.

Being spawncamped untill enough people join.

Fighting uphill versus fully suplyd tower and keeps on our own lands.

Try to take down a FULLY upgraded Stonemist who is filled with trebs nuking our Tier 1 towers / keeps.

When Prime time begins we are on even ground again…

Untill bed time come and the Hero’s of the Night make all our effort worthless again.

Rinse and Repeat all over for a week.

I bet VS will take a AWESOME 500k lead this week if not more by their dedicated mad skillz in day time.

Keep it up <3

You take a lead when other servers are sleeping……ah well why even bother talking here….

This week you guys take 50k points in the night making it imposible for Desolation or Far Shiverpeaks to gain decent points.

Many people are already fed up with WvW, the queue times + your Epic Player versus Gate guilds are making sure of that.

What can we do now ? upgrading out keeps again untill midnight only to wake up and see a FULLY green map again ?
And getting spawn camped for 4 hours untill we manage to get some even numbers inside Borderlands….

We can discuss this all day long about who is better and who has more weight, but untill your Player versus Gate players stop we will never know do we ?

Charlouf.1985:

Phara Miu.2816:

Please stop telling yourselves you own, the only thing you own is Players versus Gate’s when We are asleep.

then stop telling urself u own VS on day cause u lost latenight zergling ?

screenshot ? already done ! ur answer ?
—we are working on day
—we are queued primetime
—we sleeping at night

next = ?

they won cause of french canadian
we are better than VS on day

screenshot ?already done ! ur answer ?
—we are working on day
—we are queued primetime
—we sleeping at night

goto 1

Hmm we had a 10000 point lead from saturday morning untill Sunday night…. explain pls ?
Ah you dint get in you say ? well our 40 member guild was in queue for 6 hours and had 5 members inside at prime time….

But its ok keep telling yourself you guys win fair and sqaure
Even your own french brothers are admitting it…..your own people saying Canadians ruining your reputation…..

Please stop the nonesence…..

Trikk.4685:

The sad part is that due to this Canadian night team, all players on VS has to suffer from the poor reputation they cause and have to play against the top EU servers during daytime. VS is by far not a top daytime server, which is why this matchmaking is so flawed and punishes casuals. A few Canadians have fun at the expense of all French people, basically.

Thing is Far Shiverpeaks is a Dutch / Scandinavian server, we are the same time zone give or take 1 or 2 hours.
We dont want to ask Australians / Americans to join our server to counter nightshifters….
its not fair versus Desolation or any other server…

Time will tell what will happen, but as it stands now it sucks to get spawncamped in the morning and lose all Tier 3 upgraded keeps….Not to mention how you guys can Build up SM and have a major advancement versus Far Shiver and Desolation.

We are upgrading our keeps again now, and hope to fight the REAL EU french again today.
Not the wanne be french who like players versus Gate’s.