Guild Wars 2

Not discrediting her claims, but correcting you usage of the word dev: Eva’s a community manager, not a dev.

Glaeser.8015:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Wafflez.8460:

Pizz.3698:

Here’s a short clip of [Seed] and some pugs getting attacked by a HoD group trying to ninja Bluelake after we cleared NSP out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfugZ_gOxSs

P.S. sorry for the bad editing
P.P.S. paxa might want to watch it

This is your big paxa fail? I count atleast 15 guys there, plus npc commander which can 1 shot people and actually did to one of the paxa guys. So 15 plus commander vs their 5 and you expected them to win?

Lol, there was 6 of us guildies there, with 2 pugs. There was at least 6 PAXA guys that ran up and we were inside an NSP tower. We just got done fighting off a 10~ish man NSP-named NSP guild and were trying to cap when they ran up. Killed the HoD off and capped the tower as well. It was pretty fun, although rather disillusioning as well.

False false false!!! Holy crap, the lieing is awful. 6 of us Splt/SPCA and 8 [NSP], plus I’m sure a couple PuGs defended that tower for awhile after SF trebbed the walls. It was awesome fights for a long time, then SF amassed at LEAST 20-30 people, I’ll admit I can’t get an exact count when all the nameplates stack up but that right there was a “zurg”.
Again, we held out for awhile, PAXA even flanked the SF zerg a couple times, but in the end SF massed up, and wiped us NSP off the tower. Casualties on both sides so who knows what the “real” count was, but shortly after we wiped PAXA took 7 into the tower, I walked back in to observe as PAXA did indeed hit what looked like 15+ players in the lord room, killed a few, but ended up losing out. It was not “6+2 PuGs”, that is complete garbage. All your guild or not the odds were not even for us, nor HoD.

But hey, numbers are hard to count in WvW and it’s my word against yours, so I guess feel free to gloat over the “even matchup”. Regardless I had a blast.

If you wanna see the actual fight I posted the vid earlier. We trebbed for a while, some of us went to fight with you at the broken wall, we team up about 15-20 and portal bombed inside and the vid starts there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs--z6QatUo

Agreed the 6+2 pugs was on the top of my head, after looking we had around 12 still alive in the lord room, maybe more when we got attacked by HoD. Anyways, fun 3-way fight.

Wafflez.8460:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Varconi.1804:

Clearly my eyes are deceiving me I will trust you over what I watched.

Give me a timestamp at which point PAXA visibly downs or kills someone. Prove your point with facts instead of adwords and injecting bias beforehand.

Anyway, the end point was that we wanted to fight PAXA, but they turned tail and didn’t show up again that night, so it was dissapointing. No one said anything about them failing or us owning them.

Ok, maybe i just assumed too much based on the previous arguing with them and then telling them to take a look at the vid. Also from what I know about their running times they tend to log off at about midnight central, so depending on your timezone and the in game clock in that vid looks like its getting close to that, so that could have been why you didn’t see them come back. Anyways looks like you had a fun fight over the tower.

The PAXA shout was simply because I see them on the forums and they’re in the vid. I started recording WvW last night with the intention to post more vids.

Here’s a vid of a 2v2 between a pug+me and [ tM ], ended up in a draw. Nice fight guys ! Keep them coming : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSDNwmZaZPg

Here’s the first part of the Bluelake assault, fun fight NSP, cya on the battlefield:

Edit: I know there’s no sound, sorry.

Varconi.1804:

Pizz.3698:

Wafflez.8460:

Learn to count? You can see 10 green names(all with different guild tags so they are not clones) in the opening frame alone, plus the 5 in your group.

After looking there’s about 7 green names that are still alive, this make us 12 in Bluelake vs your 9-10. Also noticed how you attacked us before we owned the tower discrediting your RI Champion 1-shot claim.

If you honestly believe you bested PAXA in this fight congrats. Next time though can I suggest just saying you smoked them even odds and they left map and leave it at that instead of providing video evidence to show what really occurred. Keep explaining how you saw it but anyone who watched that clip can clearly see it was not even close to even odds and they got more kills than your group did.

Where did anyone say we smoked them out? All we said is we fought them and didnt see them on the map later. They had 5 apparently, with pugs and we had 6 with pugs and they surprised us. It was a good fight, that’s all.

Wafflez.8460:

Pizz.3698:

Wafflez.8460:

Learn to count? You can see 10 green names(all with different guild tags so they are not clones) in the opening frame alone, plus the 5 in your group.

After looking there’s about 7 green names that are still alive, this make us 12 in Bluelake vs your 9-10. Also noticed how you attacked us before we owned the tower discrediting your RI Champion 1-shot claim.

dank just listed off guild names so i won’t get into that but i was talking about npc commander not champion, you know…breakout event?

It’s Bluelake, SF is red.

dank.3680:

Cosa, Boh, HCG, NOBL, DUSK, Ship, WD, LYSS, EX, BR, TH, ICE-

These are the tags I can pick out (from people who are alive). If we assume it’s only 1 person with each of those tags (which it wasn’t for some), and add 6 Seed we have at least 18 people (alive at first) + a super OP NPC fighting 5 PAXA who managed to down several people and even secure some spikes. I say it was a pretty good show, good job PAXA.

3 of these are already dead. There’s also more than 5 PAXA excluding the HoD pugs behind them. Anyways, good fight. See you on the battlefield

Wafflez.8460:

Learn to count? You can see 10 green names(all with different guild tags so they are not clones) in the opening frame alone, plus the 5 in your group.

After looking there’s about 7 green names that are still alive, this make us 12 in Bluelake vs your 9-10. Also noticed how you attacked us before we owned the tower discrediting your RI Champion 1-shot claim.

Varconi.1804:

Forgetting to mention how many dead SF players are clearly visible on screen.

NSP killed them, I’ll upload the clip for you in a minute. We had just reached the guild claiming platform when HoD attacked us.

Wafflez.8460:

This is your big paxa fail? I count atleast 15 guys there, plus npc commander which can 1 shot people and actually did to one of the paxa guys. So 15 plus commander vs their 5 and you expected them to win?

If you’d learn to count there’s 5-6[Seed] 2 dead pugs and 3 more pugs, one of you died on the boss platform, 5 of you just ran away and an extra 3 of you died on the bridge and before the platform. We never implied fails all we said is we saw you, we killed most of you and you just disappaered from the map.

Here’s a short clip of [Seed] and some pugs getting attacked by a HoD group trying to ninja Bluelake after we cleared NSP out.

P.S. sorry for the bad editing
P.P.S. paxa might want to watch it

FilthyRat.4652:

Wait I just got done with my vacation and missed out all the good drama, how will I sleep tonight without my fix.

Go read the other 3 threads and have a laugh

Im sure a record has been broken

Not sure if a record was broken here? 2 thread with the last one having 16 pages, both shut down. Gj guys ! :-P

Varconi.1804:

Pizz.3698:

Quick shout to the Splt group running around in SFBL, you guys are good to burst targets down, gotta give you that.

PAXA showed up, finally they left the forum and showed their faces. Didnt present anything though, lots of talk, not much to show.

Keep it going guys. Also, lol at HoD and NSP avoiding each other at Bluelake while facing us, sadly I missclicked and couldnt get the screenshot

Edit: bad spelling

If you need help with your clicking skills I would check out PvP I heard on forums they are well skilled in that.

Keep hiding in the forums

Quick shout to the Splt group running around in SFBL, you guys are good to burst targets down, gotta give you that.

PAXA showed up, finally they left the forum and showed their faces. Didnt present anything though, lots of talk, not much to show.

Keep it going guys. Also, lol at HoD and NSP avoiding each other at Bluelake while facing us, sadly I missclicked and couldnt get the screenshot

Edit: bad spelling

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Lol, can we finally build siege again? That’s why I left last night, didn’t feel like PvDooring and wanted to finish Bioshock Infinite (amazing btw). I like that NSP/HoD are forcing us to take pre-emptive measures on holding things. (Seriously, I do not recall having to fend off attacks on SM from each individual wall in t8, it’s been fun in t7.)

That siege cap though, blows hard.

Tell me about it, we had to PvDoor the blue keep couple nights ago, we got that reinforced gate to 20% before our golem finally arrived, what a pain.

Jscull.2514:

This is funny. The reason I know you don’t get where I’m coming from is because the first thing you did was give me a scoreboard update. I never once asked and actually explained non of PAXA care about the score. Thank you for answering you spent 4 months doing the exact same thing everyday to finally move up a tier…. To guess what? Do the exact same thing. 4 months in which I’m sure you had fun but by Anets (and your own apparently) standards gained you nothing but forum bragging. Point is dude Zerging should not be the ONLY form an entire server’s pvp team uses. Like I said earlier I get new players want to have backup close by and to work together. Please name 3-5 small man guilds that run primetime? Can you do that? And running 15 is not small man. To be specific, run 10 or less and look for fights and not ONLY points? Can you do that?

[Seed] runs a 3-5 man team most of the time during primetime and up to 10-15 during scheduled event, though we do join/command zergs when they are useful for the situation. There’s no point in avoiding zergs when your server is siegeing Stonemist.

And YES we do cap camps with 10+ people because that’s how you make sure you have enough supply to siege towers, keeps and castles. Wether you like it or not and wether you think it’s skill or not, SF is really good to group up on certain BLs when called upon. We group up fast and cap fast because we know how to do it and how effective it is.

When you ask: ’’What’s the point of capping something to loose it half an hour later?" I answer: “How’d you feel loosing that waypoint in your garrison?” You seem to be trolling just for the fun of trolling. I still have yet to be outskilled in WvW, be it 1v1s 2v1s 5v5s, etc.

Not sure if you guys watched the same video, but their whole group stood inside your keep while your whole server just charged in and died. I really love how you guys rotated feedbacks and guardian walls and how you all stacked under Sanctuary when it was used. Great team communication.

You are indeed right though, most of the video PVP has a bigger group than what’s being thrown at them, but they stood 10 minute inside that keep and barely lost anyone while you guys just died like flies, if this is not skill play i really dont know what is.

Why dont you post some vids of your guild see what ’’it’s really about’’.

“All SF has is numbers, no skill. All SF does is zerg, zerg, zerg.” “NSP/HoD only have 10-15 players group”. I’m just surprised how you had more people than us at that SM wall for hours and never got through, hell you can even spawn camp us in your BL if you feel like it.

Yes, these pictures only show HoD, but they’re the only of the two that I remembered screenshotting.

Dont get me wrong, im not against zergs or anything, but we’ve dealt with FC/ET telling us about numbers for weeks and you guys just followed their tradition, then so will we. Enjoy the screenshots.

P.S. Can’t wait to see ET in T7

Pentose.3479:

SF’s zerg is so big they get inside our tower before the door is even down

The first screenshot is definetly a mesmer clone. Not sure if screenshots were posted sarcasticaly.

Give it an other week to see the population balance out and then we can start talking about numbers/strategie. For now WvW is still full of PvE players trying out the new no-culling WvW. Free transfers are also done now(i think?).

As for throwing the easy l2p SF argument, think about it for a second. We’ve had 8-9 weeks of an average of 500-600 PPT. The server never had to rely on any real strategie as the lvl of play in T8 was really really low. Yes there was some times where there were some number disparity (dont get me wrong, i have seen fair fights/numbers from ET a lot and sometimes FC, they were simply not constant).

Both ET and FC had the chance to play with more skilled guilds and got the chance to learn. And, from what i’ve seen, they decided to stick to their commanders the same way Agg and VK did. Give us some time to adapt and the score will go back to what it once was.

DisplayName.7802:

Day 1:
I made some friends today. But I think they are a bunch of yak slappers

Day 16:

ET still thinks I am one of them. I ate an omnom ghost to spook them out. Plan backfired.

Ooohhh the dirty savannah talk in that 3rd screenshot hahaha

Ipea.2974:

I did make a post then post in another thread telling people to use mine…….I think you’ll find that was you…….
Have a good day attention seeking more

I dont think you understand that nobody cares who starts the thread, the only thing that’s asked is a date in the thread topic.

Ipea.2974:

Pizz.3698:

Plz post in here —->https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/3-29-FC-ET-SF if it’S about this week’S WvW, to avoid confusion.

Also known as “I need some attention so use my post as its better”

It was only because there’S no date on this thread, I dont care about it being my thread or not. If you really want that much attention you could go and create your own. I’ll gladly post in it.

P.S. make sure to put the right date in the topic !

Plz post in here —→https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/3-29-FC-ET-SF if it’S about this week’S WvW, to avoid confusion.

Created the thread because the other one doesnt have a date making it confusing, have a fun WvW week everyone !

Manoa.5897:

insanemaniac.2456:

makes face at SF
nyah!

ColinJohanson.2394:

For the next week, all the medium population servers will be free to transfer to. Might be worth giving one of them a look!

So much rage at ArenaNet right now. Instead of actually fixing the Glicko Ghetto, they instead give free transfers to our T8 enemies and the T7 server that we’ve been trying desperately to swap places with. So this is our “reward” for dominating for 2 months straight? Such bullkitten.

EDIT: Free transfers to HoD might no be soo bad it would push NSP and GoM down in ratings fast, allowing us to join T7 still. At even score, HoD gets +22 and NSP, GoM gets -10. Imagine if they get mass transfers and start being T7’s SF, it’ll push NSP or GoM in T8 in 2-3 weeks.

ET giving SF their free fully upgraded garrison and Dawn’s when they have 20-30 people in FCBL. Way to prioritize. +1

Edit: Screenshot

Jeknar.6184:

Pizz.3698:

I love that Screenshot because not long after I typed charge!, the 10 of us at QL jump down and just wipe that zerg as they spread out in fear of SF. It was hilarious to see.

Actually you already did it on the SS, and also said: “OMFG get the cata up guys”

No, if you look closely im right in the middle of all the red names, look for the blue icon. (I’m hard to see since im a tiny black asura) so the screen shot is right as I charged in, the people on the walls followed instants later

FilthyRat.4652:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Also, question for PK, what is the point of standing still when you see Invaders and subsequently dying without doing anything? Some sort of ‘giving up’ message perhaps? That seemed to be a recurring theme with your members…

Lol…think we just figured out why ET can run around with zergs but not bring up orange swords (they did here, but there was like 50). Look close at the right side and you will notice people standing there with their hands in their pockets.

I love that Screenshot because not long after I typed charge!, the 10 of us at QL jump down and just wipe that zerg as they spread out in fear of SF. It was hilarious to see.

HoD’s getting scared of the T8 sinkhole.

I think I’ve seen some WOLF and pugs pop swords at one point too. That hide-n-seek strat… +1

ET playing Hide-N-Seek again. We’ll play all night, kittens.

Oh, im not saying i didnt enjoy the fight, i was happy ET finally decided to stand up and fight, and we had tons of fun.

roostapro.9827:

If you called bait..then why get lured? lol

First 2 golem sites was not soloed..10 of you guys went out (lured) and destroyed them while we killed you..

and NO, we did not outnumber you one bit nor was the fight close to equal, Overtime though I guess both sides started losing interest.

anyway, I enjoy your hate but I shall be the better person and say GG, was a very well fought battle and I enjoyed every minute of it (the golem lure tactic….I have always wanted to do such a thing..worked out sorta OK..but I need to find something cheaper & more disposable than a Golem…free siege ftw..SF shall be my guinea Pigs /Evil Laugh)

as said, “Assault on Dawnstar” (Hollywood..make a movie of this NOW) was enjoyable and a well fought GG for both sides.

EDIT: spelling

I went to kill the sites so the zerg wouldnt. 10 people didnt go up to the site, they invited a bit past the wall. Your ’’lure’’ wasnt really effective since nobody actually died, at least not more than they would without sites. And yes you did have as much as we did during the assault on Dawn. If you’re telling we add that much more than what you can see there, I want actual proof. Dont forget there’s probably more still culling on those screenshots (it’s the same fight but 1 screenshot didnt include your whole group) and that was while some of us were at the supply camp fighting more of ET.

katz.8376:

orange swords pop when 25 people are fighting. doesn’t matter what side they are on. if 10 meets 15, orange swords. if 20 meets 5, orange swords.

I forgot to mention they were created while ET fought a champion in an empty tower.

This issue, that is often the case, is that SF can have 3 groups of 20 players running around which wont cause swords. So while there may be a fight where we have 25 people and SF has 20 you might be outnumbered but we are often outmanned.
We can fight in one location while you guys fight in three.

You never see 3x groups of 20 in borderlands, 2x group of 20 is possible but it still doesnt explain why you guys are getting wiped off the map on 2 sides, so fast. And one of the big reason why you can get outmanned if because you dont even try to fight. Today we’ve capped Hills with a waypoint and the garrison with a waypoint and nobody defended them.

Also, it’s kind of sad that on a saturday night, prime time. If ET faces any sized group they just leave their BL and wait for it to turn green and for most of SF to leave before coming back with enough people to create orange crossed swords. Do you like PvDoor that much? Dont give me that ‘’you guys outnumber us’’ b.s. we didnt create any sword while you guys did.

roostapro.9827:

QQ ?
No, we were giggling in map chat on how bad your offensive was..
And we had less numbers and siege placements to pidgeonhole you guys at certain points near the tower, 3 eles blocking your treb shots and great defending by our side.

No QQ on our side, your assumptions are wrong

Btw, i was the guy placing golems….I seriously cannot believe you guys fell for the Lure (free disposable siege) your commander must have raged…..

Glad i got to test the siege lure tactic on you guys, was fun killing you albeit, might not do the siege lurer for another while yet, needs some refining :P

You know you had as much numbers as we had? and you were defending the easiest tower there is to defend?

That tower allows you to defend every destructible gate/wall with unhittable siege. So with equal numbers all you could do is defend 1 tower while we capped your whole BL, dont tap on each others back on something that’s not even close to an accomplishement.

I also called your golem sites as bait and that’s why i soloed the 2 first and an other commander soloed the 3rd, nobody really cared.

roostapro.9827:

Capped dawns tower yet SF?
Oh….no…no you haven’t…
Our last remaining tower (focus us first…bring us higher morale) and you cannot even cap it LOL

Edit: tower nane

And after it’S capped you read QQs about our numbers in ET mapchat. lol. You know ET had even number with us this whole afternoon and maybe more?

Shademehr.1397:

…

You’re assuming I’m in a populated zone, when I mostly run around the emptiest zones. They meet just a little bit of resistance and poof they disappear leaving us free upgraded keeps. Even though it’s free exp, karma, money, tokens, it gets boring fast.

Sometimes we just have to choose our battles wisely. Sadly, “wisely” might mean that we have to lose 10 points here and 5 points there to hold onto 20 points (or to head to Ferg and grab even more points in a shorter amount of time than it would take us to simply hang onto that upgraded keep)

First of all, during most of the day the ‘’SF zerg’’ is far from being 4:1 to ET’s or FC’s. Hell, I’ve even been outmanned during the day.
2nd of all, I thought you guys wanted to see us out of T8 as much as we want to get out? Why dont you focus on having fun instead of trying to PvDoor as much as possible? The most fun I had in WvW recently is the rare times where ET or FC decides they want to put up a fight.

Jeknar.6184:

Pizz.3698:

Not sure if we’ve seen the same ET, but ET always runs away when they see SF. Wether they outnumber SF or not at this point in time doesnt matter. In most cases they just run away if they can’t zerg/insta cap w/e they’re after until they fall back to the last tower/keep they still own. I’ve only seen the night crew of ET stand and fight.

You destroy a reinforced wall when the target have a paper gate?

If the answer is no, then why should ET fight over a well defended base over taking an easier target?

My two coppers…

You’re assuming I’m in a populated zone, when I mostly run around the emptiest zones. They meet just a little bit of resistance and poof they disappear leaving us free upgraded keeps. Even though it’s free exp, karma, money, tokens, it gets boring fast.

Parktou.4263:

Eredon Terrace has put a bad taste in our mouths……why, because we didn’t let your mindless zerg PvDoor? Don’t know which one of us offended you so much my gentle little friend, but if you guys are attacking us instead of FC for something so petty, then that’s just dumb. Last I checked the reason why both SF and FC always start their days on OUR BL is because its the only place you’ll actually find a fight.

Oh, and don’t be so sore that we ninja’d 2 of your keeps the other night, we took all of FC’s keeps too.

Not sure if we’ve seen the same ET, but ET always runs away when they see SF. Wether they outnumber SF or not at this point in time doesnt matter. In most cases they just run away if they can’t zerg/insta cap w/e they’re after until they fall back to the last tower/keep they still own. I’ve only seen the night crew of ET stand and fight.

Quick tip to ET, when you capture a keep or push back invaders, make sure to sweep around for siege. It’s the 2nd time this week that i was able to use siege at a keep without having to build any.

Anya.6015:

Hi guys, I’m new to the WvW forums… and WvW in general. I just kinda have to say that I thought the reset was going to help me a bit with my world completion (working on a legendary), but it’s quickly become an entirely green map, which means I’m kind of stuck because the FC zergs don’t often leave FC. Is there any way we could work out some way for people who are working on world completion to go and get the points of interest/vistas and then let the server they were running through take their stuff back with little to no resistance? It probably wouldn’t change the score much…

(P.S. World vs World is seriously fun… I wasn’t expecting it to be, but it is.)
(P.P.S. I’ve been killed in the jumping puzzle a few times, once in the middle of the bow animation. That isn’t cool. Please don’t camp the puzzles for kills.)

1-If you’re desperate for your legendary you could always transfer server for a while. Unless you have all the mats already you dont need to so you might be able to get your map completion when SF leaves t8

2-The 3 borderland JPs and the EB JP are PvP area, being killed in the JP is part of the game. Nobody’s supposed to give you free siege and free tokens the same way nobody would let you cap a supply camp or a tower just because ’’it’s not cool’’ to stop you. What’s the point of a PvP JP if you’re not supposed to kill one another?

bump, or at least, right-click join friend in PvP so you can at least play with friends

digiowl.9620:

Pizz.3698:

Condition cleansing is not really a problem as most of them only clear one condition and the classes that do apply a lot of weakness (thief and necro comes to mind) apply it so fast and so often that cleasing it wont even matter.

Actually i think a elixir gun engineer may apply weakness faster than a necromancer as it is part of the guns #1 attack.

Yeah but a necro with enough precision can apply poison weakness chill at once and fast. but yeah, most classes have anti-bunker set-ups.

Killing a bunker like a d/d ele is really simple, try to keep weakness, chill and dont be scared to use the already in-game boon removing utilities.

Weakness = Endurance regeneration decreased by 50%; 50% of Non Critical hits are glancing blows (50% damage) (so 25% less damage on non-crit)
Chill = Movement speed decreased by 66%; skill cooldown increased by 66%

Those 2 conditions might be the 2 main counters to bunker/boon builds as they nerf their damage to the complete ground making them running meatshields.

Condition cleansing is not really a problem as most of them only clear one condition and the classes that do apply a lot of weakness (thief and necro comes to mind) apply it so fast and so often that cleasing it wont even matter.

Necro is probably the best class to counter bunkers, you should try it out if those boon stacking builds really annoy you. (Corrupt boon, Well of corruption, spinal shiver x2, perm weakness, a lot of chill, chill on blind, fast application of multiple conditions, etc)

Darek.1836:

Trust me, you didn’t. You probably held 10-15 at the best.

That’s still about 3-4 times our numbers