Guild Wars 2

Dragonbrand could use more coverage in the gap between NA and Oceanic

Mag,TC,CD, and FA are also very good choices

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

Jurrzy.1594:

Infuriating. Gasm and Protocol have are so untrustworthy. Abandoning a server you’ve been with for months, not even saying goodbye. All of their talks of server pride were just lies and deceit, I guess. But we can pull the server together.

Anyway, Back on topic. Darn Kaineng, you guys are kicking are butts. You might go all the way to top tier.

Not sure about the story about Gasm, but as for Pro, it appears to have some internal drama/conflict/backstab that caused the entire guild to break down and go each separate ways.

From what I’ve heard, it was because the Leader of Pro got demoted by Pro’s War Counsel for making order to move to Magumma. So he left, brining like 15~20 people with him along the way. Then the rest splits into two groups, one that still trying to amend all the damage that the now ex-leader did, and the other just had enough of the guild drama, not to even mention all the internal DR drama that raises inside.

So yeah … Drama kills a guild, and a server.

this is alittle off

1) Im not going into the reason for the initial split, its over and done with and had nothing to do with with DR or the match up at the time. the only thing i will say is that “he who shall not be named” reformed with 10-15 members of pro on Yak’s bend under the [HELL] tag.

2) We the remainder left because of the paid transfers first and foremost. [PRO] was created as a competitive wvwvw guild and the initial plan after talking with [gasm] and [red] was to turn DR into a competitive server. paid transfers made this impossible, because realistically their is no reason for any oceanic or EU guilds to PAY to xfer to DR. If free transfers weren’t ending we would have stayed. That being said we discussed transfering for almost 10 hours in our voice chat and after putting it to a vote decided to go ahead with it. we had to make the move quick simply because their is only small windows in which to make transfers(see below). Also to any of the guilds on any of the servers…if your planning a move…do it before this thursday or you may end up with half a guild.

Currently we are in the process of moving our members to Dragonbrand(which is full for the weekend so you may see some pro floating around for the next couple days)

and to Jurrzy:
we talked to all the major wvw guild leaders before we left and explained our position. we did what was best for our guild, because frankly it probably wouldn’t have survived as a competitive guild after paid transfers hit. Family before nation, im sorry if anyone feels betrayed.

ive was getting 8.4-9k crits with them while my alpha golem was wielding golems in a box

RockonHarder.7235:

Maniac.5163:

Drae.3189:

This thread really should be called “1/18/13 CD/FA and IoJ/DB”. I know server transfers are kosher in-game and part of everything. But I have to express extreme dissapointment with all the large WvW guilds from IoJ that transferred to FA just before their server went down a bracket.
Hello [PRO], hello [OBEY]. Well hope you like FA cause your stuck for now and will need to pay to switch next time.
So if the name of the game this next week or so (till the 28th) is going to be about server transfers while they are still free…well…fine. We will play too.
The funniest part about this whole thing is that for the first few weeks of the last matchup, CD/FA/IoJ, their was much talk and rumors of FA and IoJ teaming up to attack CD’d map at exactly the same time every night. Rumors of friends/guilds actually splitting themselves over the two servers……and now the two servers have joined up…

I’m not saying anything you guys have done is wrong or against the rules or anything.
But when I go into WvW and see all the big IoJ guilds fighting along side FA now…glad your not on my server.

Umm.. [PRO] has been on Fort Aspenwood since day one.
(hint, that’s why we are called the Protectorate of Aspenwood)
[OBEY] has been a guild on FA for months.
Do you guys even know which IOJ guilds we have yet?
Most of the guilds that transferred over are very small but rather effective.
Our server TS has really not climbed in numbers significantly.

I think there is confusion over the fact that there was a guild called PRO on DR server and they transfered over. but i thought it was to DB not FA

This is correct, Protocol [PRO] from DR is transfering to DB. Still waiting for the server to open up again so we can get the other half of our guild here though. >.<

dunno if this is the right forum but,

having a problem with an ex-guild member harassing members of my guild almost daily, to the point of creating new accounts to get around the in game message block. is there a direct link that we can talk to game support in order to stop this behavior.

ktith.6197:

You’re going to see people migrating to top tier servers (T4 and up). What you’re not going to see after the paid transfers go in are people still wanting to move up to these tiers. To move up to a higher tier after the paid transfers go in will cost the equivalent in gems to about 50 bucks. But, to move down to lower tiers T5 and down it could be as cheap as 5 bucks.

These figures are based on the last meta data that I saw with gems and the costs of transfers. These figures may or may not change by the 28th.

why would anyone pay 5 dollars to transfer to a dead server. also i doubt it will be $50 because thats as much as the game itself….might aswell buy a new account at that point.

Buy the dragon brand

Otokomae.9356:

This idea is actually not that bad…

I…agree

Henrik.7560:

If FA were smart, they would let us win this week so they wont have to put up with us next week.

wut?

1) use voice chat, dont rely on party or map chat
2) get over your zerg phobia, wvw is a numbers and coverage game
3) only other option for “stack on me” in small group pvp is making use of combo fields
4) quit, your obviously not having fun

To all pro, do not respond to any of dreds posts. if he messages you in game and you don’t like it, please set him on ignore and report him for verbal abuse.

To mag: GF this week i wish you well in the next tier
To DR: yes pro is xfering, we have already talk to all major wvw guild leaders on DR and explained our position and reasons. we wish y’all good luck.
To any kain ghosting in this thread, congrats on tiering up, and dont let the haters in the lower tiers bother you. PRO looks forward to fighting you again someday.

zastari.1730:

Psychatog.8246:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Why do people think that the enemy won’t react when you put up swords…? Then when they do, oh it has to be a spy! It’s like people don’t get that wiping groups at the lord is the greatest dream crusher there is.

Clear siege, watch entrances/exits, call out scouts, and watch your butts, and you’re least likely to get jumped.

Because zergs have been showing up before swords go up….in absolutely random locations. ive tested it out in our TS personally, when we give out info in party only or give out conflicting info in TS we’ve been significantly more successful. Its clear someone is feeding info….not that i really care personally, Ive found ways around it.

Are you talking about white or orange swords?

Because you better believe that Maguuma checks every single set of white swords that go up anywhere on the map, and we usually have a report in less than a minute.

im talking NO swords.

i say ninja bay water gate with omegas in TS we have 20 people + a cannon waitng for us when we get there.

i say meet up at the centaur camp for an assault on garrison in TS and we have a 50 man mag zerg waiting for us at the camp when we arrive

now i if i say we are attacking south hills in TS, but instead attack bay using party chat we usually end up getting bay while the randoms that went to south hills report running into a large mag zerg.

its happened too many times to be coincidence

GuardianOMS.8067:

Why do people think that the enemy won’t react when you put up swords…? Then when they do, oh it has to be a spy! It’s like people don’t get that wiping groups at the lord is the greatest dream crusher there is.

Clear siege, watch entrances/exits, call out scouts, and watch your butts, and you’re least likely to get jumped.

Because zergs have been showing up before swords go up….in absolutely random locations. ive tested it out in our TS personally, when we give out info in party only or give out conflicting info in TS we’ve been significantly more successful. Its clear someone is feeding info….not that i really care personally, Ive found ways around it.

Jscull.2514:

Styx,

That doesnt take as much skill/energy/or generate as much fun as winning a fight with a equal or higher skill based small man team. Clearly you don’t come from a gaming background like Daoc.

“Repairing, scouting, escorting dolyaks, running support skills, patrolling maps that aren’t yet contested by zergs, fighting losing battles to stall opponents rather than drop them, flipping camps/towers while their would be defenders are occupied elsewhere”

Easy mode man. That’s for players who just want to pass time. Sure it “helps” the overall picture. But here’s the thing, any skilled 5 man can do that and still win the fights open field. So devoting only to what you said is pointless if you can get the kills at the same time.

so what your saying is that [PAXA] is bad, because the 2 weeks i fought against them…..the most ive seen them do is take a camp in an uncontested area when it was no where near the end of the tick timer. the vast majority of the time it was just spawn camping and picking off stragglers.

Seriously, maybe try to actually WvWing at some point.
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to stay on topic:

I think someone should have X amount of the WvW achievement points, X amount of kills, and pay the 100 gold. Its still not perfect, but it shows people have experience in the different facets of WvW.

Another solution is just not follow an unknown commander….a bad commander, who loses constantly…..will disappear quickly.

Remove living from jumping puzzles, the chests should kill you when you open them

Darwinism.8619:

Sol.4310:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Bunzy.8674:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Bunzy.8674:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Bunzy.8674:

Smitten.3076:

Bunzy.8674:

Smitten.3076:

Bunzy.8674:

Smitten.3076:

Bunzy.8674:

Smitten.3076:

We’ll use every advantage we can to win an engagement, while trying to keep our groups small.

So /shrug …. game on.

You run with 20+ people in an attempt to keep your group small?

Actually .. edited it because you’re really not worth it.
All OG is, is forum bravado and a few dueling specs, nothing special. We get better fights from Mag from other guilds there, we’ll continue to enjoy fights with those folks.

Video should be out of the zerg busting in a few nights once Oozo has time to mess with them. Was a fun zerg stomp, we probably had 12-14 with us consisting of 1 BSty, about 5-6 Larp/Noqq.

so 14+1 = 15
+ 6 = 21
yep 20+ which is what i said earlier >.>

No you misread, the Larp/Noqq and Bsty count is added with our total.Hence the phrase “consisting of”. So still 14ish, i’ve been informed the third group might have been full but I can think of who was in it though.

I will be sure to count when you release the video, I am 95% confident there was at least 15.

I’ll give you 15, that’s pretty small compared to a zerg of 30+.

/shrug It was a fun fight, let it go at that. Video will come when Oozo has footage and time, I bet he’s compiling footage tonight since he’s not on.

So which one ended up wiping you?

4 OG, 5 TLP or The Maguuma Pugs

Wiping would imply you killed all of us. I am pretty sure I made it out alive since I recall killing some poor OG guy on the way back to garrison.

I would rather call it a tactical retreat in the face of superior numbers.

You got wiped doesn’t matter if a person makes it out lol
We lost 99% of our forces but we didn’t wipe – DR logic

Never seen a zerg with a hundred people in it, but I think we are drifting off-topic here.

Oh I forgot you haven’t been to T4 yet.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

DR has never had a zerg of a 100 people.

Funny DR zerged there way to Tier 5, face some numbers and skilled players and DR results to forum smack.

I used to be on DR, I have seen 100 man DR zerg……….. But one thing DR never did from lower tiers was learn some solid tactics for WvW.

1st… that’s impossible.. no one has ever seen a 100 man Zerg… Not w/ Anets Graphics rendering and culling…

2nd… OTW to tier 5 Devona’s set the record for consecutive Wins… Set the Record for Most Points in a week… in tier 5 we ran into a better organized & greater “WvW” population server… and did the best we could… DR has every right to Hold our Head’s High & has nothing to be ashamed okittenPlus we have learned from every server we played against.. . Even this match-up…stuff like…
He who slings mud… looses ground….
Or…Never catch snowflakes on your tongue… till “all” the birds have flown south for Winter…
And.. its always Darkest before the Dawn… so that’s the best time to Steal Maguuma’s Newspaper

justsay’n

don’t forget most forum post removed by moderators for a single server aswell

wow….. the amount of fail in this thread

Mag you have an advantage and you know it, no need to rub it in. Just get ready for next week.

DR you have a disadvantage and you know it, stop whining about it and prepare for next week.

a good thief is only heard, never seen

Darwinism.8619:

I think many of us can related to being at a Family Reunion and realizing by accident you just sat next to that Crazy Uncle that thinks Glen Beck is right about everything and that Obama is going to “take away our guns” and euthanize grandma cause she costs Medicare to much… so you just Smile & Nod being polite while you finish your Potato Salad… and pretend your listening as you look for a Cute Relative that you hope is at least a 2nd cousin to ask to dance…

That’s how you should be to anyone Posting “Inflaming Nonsense” in this Forums… if you react to them you have giving them exactly what they want “Attention” & they have Won..

Haikus are easy
But sometimes they don’t make sense
Refridgerator

standard d/d elemental bunker build

Learn 2 boon strip and immoblize

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Question for DR and BP: Does your server attendance for WvW drop off during the week?

DRs retention rate is fairly high. evenings and late night stay about the same, early morning their is usually a small drop off, and mid days is around 80% of weekend.

Hi from DR

Just came to say grats to kain for tiering up, and wish them luck on thier climb. looking forward to having another 8 week stalemate.

also i hope you enjoy transfer/higher population QQ from other servers, because T6 is nothing but the same——-hmm why does this seem familar

jkctmc.8754:

Drednyte.7601:

jkctmc.8754:

When our fully upgraded Bay was reset, you sure as hell didn’t allow us to fully upgrade it again, before you came back within an hour to take it back, after we did. You guys got caught red handed, and couldn’t play it off, so you left the map as a show of disgust, when in fact it was probably just a show. Because you came back to take a wooden keep, not long after we took it back.

You didn’t allow us to fix the major issue YOU caused, and immediately took advantage of it. Nor did you return the gold spent on Bay either.

Mate neither me nor any of the other larger Wv3 guilds have control of randoms, pugs, or other guilds. All i can tell u is this…when it happened ALL OF US left AR and didnt go back. If a group of randoms/upgrades went back in and retook it from your zerg defense…your fault not ours.

As to refunding gold for the Bay upgrade costs. Sure thing mate, how bout you take it out of the gold your exploits/hacks has cost us. Id imagine you owe us quite a bit more than we owe you for the Bay.

You see, you’re not being honest. I guess that is to be expected. We fought a lot of PRO members that night, who did come back. I think you guys trolled that thread to deletion, but will go look later tonight.

BS, i posted a video of us fighting on another borderland, while discussing the whole incident in TS last week on the forums. your the one not being honest

Wow, you have some major reading issues, and you continue with the insults.

I’m not sure why I’m going to bother, but here goes nothing.

My children are fine with dying, but in your lack of reading skills, can you show me where I said they were not? I’m find with the dying as well, IT IS PART OF THE GAME, but can you show me where I said otherwise? This has nothing to do with what has happened in game, only the childish nonsense that happens here on the forums.

What I’m not fine with, is the constant insults you guys throw around, and the videos that go along with it. You guys started the trash talking, not Anvil Rock, not Northern Shiverpeaks, no you, your guild, and your server. You were being childish, and I called you out on it. It’s comical to me, and a bit sad that my 10 year old daughter can show more class, and maturity. She wins well, and she loses well.

You guys want to say; “Anvil Rock sucks”, but you refuse to face our best. How funny is that? How can you go on, and talk trash on us, but refuse to fight equally geared, and leveled players?

You’re just another Borlis Pass, and the [GOAT] guild who has a lot of immature posters, who can’t enjoy the game without trying to make others not enjoy it. It’s both comical to me, and sad that the internet after so many years hasn’t got better, but continues to get worse. This is no longer 1995, and trolling has been beating the dead horse for long enough.

I understand online games are faceless to you, but at least show some class.

wow your view is jaded,

1) I inferred that because you brought up it up followed by a QQ about lvling,population,exploits….so i just assumed it was all inclusive….. i apologize for feeling sympathy.

2) where did i insult you. i simply explained why we still value points, and pointed out that DR/PRO isn’t the cause of your server/personal problems.

3) so you call AR coming into our topics 2 weeks ago throwing insults before the match up even started not starting it(kinda like mag is doing this week, IF you lose i dont wanna hear kitten from you either).

4) as for screen shots and videos they are also part of the game, be glad people are at least providing proof of action, instead of wild claims like others in these forums.

5) “we” don’t want to say “anvil rock sucks”, “we” want to discredit attempts by AR and NSP to hollow our victory. hell my posts have been nothing but positive towards AR

6) DR and PRO are not “posters, who can’t enjoy the game without trying to make others not enjoy it”(thanks for the childish insult btw, im sure your 10yr old is proud). YOU are the only one that has control over your own fun. Dont deflect on me bro

This is my last response to you, take it as you will. I don’t feel like arguing with someone i don’t know, over a game and whom i wont even be matched with next week anyway. have a nice early morning.

yeah JP IS unfair, we should get perma siege in the JP, so pvpers can farm their badges off of the pvers more easily.

jkctmc.8754:

Psychatog.8246:

jkctmc.8754:

Drednyte.7601:

SOS…lol. why are u camping inside the NPCs at the supply camp right now. There’s like 6 DR folks there and 7-8 of you. And you hide in the NPCs? rofl

All good though, still getting my loot bags =)

Why do you wait for the top players of our guild to be at work, or doing things with our family to talk trash?

Fight our top crews, we’ll set up the times.

or you know, you could assault keeps and defend them, why should we go out of our way if points aren’t involved.

and as annoying as dred can be sometimes, his general play time IS late at night. he also isn’t pros “top player”, so fights seems valid to me.

the bigger question is why do you imply that your guild has such a big intra-guild skill gap.

All guilds have a variety of skill levels. We have full FAMILIES inside the guild. I don’t expect my 10 year old daugther to play any where near the skill level I play, and yes she’s been caught up in your guys videos when she’s following the Karma trains.

What is the point, of points when you’ve got such a lead on us, and we can’t match your numbers even during prime time?

Between the numbers issues we’ve been facing week, after week, and the ever present exploits all servers seem willing to use, many of us, like myself have reduced our activities to leveling alts, or helping gear up other peoples toons. I myself have 4-80s with three sets of exotic gear, and working on my fifth 80, while my wife, and oldest boy (who works two jobs) are guilting me into leveling their toons.

DR is going to be blue next week, putting us at a tactical disadvantage, we need as big a buffer is possible. Also the point was we are not npcs here for your amusement, if you want fights you have to come to us, not the other way around.

as for families and jobs, DR and PRO have those as well(hell, my hours are a bit variable but i still put in 60-100hrs a week). It seems like you have a declining interest in the game, and are deflecting onto other servers. All the problems you’ve mentioned are not in anyway DR or PROs fault. Population >>> Anet’s bad system, exploits >>> Anet’s bad programing (hell DR wvw guilds wont even defend exploited structures and report our own players), getting killed/family members getting killed leveling alts>>>your choice, you don’t HAVE to wvw to do that, and the same is true for staying on your server>>>don’t like it, transfer. yet you get aggressive with us when we succeed in what we are trying to do within the confines of wvw (which is win and move up, that is our goal).

and while you have my sympathy if your family members are getting upset because they are dying, there is nothing i can do about it…I’m not going to let them win. There are faces on this side of the screen as well, and we are in competition.

needs to be addressed, people are clearly dueling instead of participating in wvwvw

jkctmc.8754:

Drednyte.7601:

SOS…lol. why are u camping inside the NPCs at the supply camp right now. There’s like 6 DR folks there and 7-8 of you. And you hide in the NPCs? rofl

All good though, still getting my loot bags =)

Why do you wait for the top players of our guild to be at work, or doing things with our family to talk trash?

Fight our top crews, we’ll set up the times.

or you know, you could assault keeps and defend them, why should we go out of our way if points aren’t involved.

and as annoying as dred can be sometimes, his general play time IS late at night. he also isn’t pros “top player”, so fights seems valid to me.

the bigger question is why do you imply that your guild has such a big intra-guild skill gap.

Saweth You Him.9047:

I could care less about reward in WvW. I prefer the 13ish sets of exotic armor and 7ish sets of exotic jewelry you can currently get. I’d rather their not be something greater to gain from WvW that lessens your options overall. There are many paths to achieve a full set of exotics and in my opinion thats the way it should be. Stuff is stuff whether it is orange or pink or magenta who cares. I’d rather spend more time enjoying WvW than chasing down stuff. With that said the mist vault jumping puzzle time sink should be rid of and a player should recieve two random sets of blueprints in the mail upon entering WvW. And something should be done about theifs. Their kill time is less than my reaction time and I’m not entering some hyper-conscious zen state traveling between objectives because they exist. My toon isn’t a glass cannon either. He was built using a gradient curve and an iterative method to put a 2:1 ratio between damage and survivability and max out the damage component. If I die to a theif before I can react either I’m kitten or your game isn’t balanced or that’s the way its meant to be(not even enough time to hit the invulnerability button). If it is then it is. Otherwise had a fantastic 3 way battle last night until we got outnumbered on multiple fronts.

or its balanced around a 1:2 instead of a 2:1 ratio for your chosen class

JudgeD.5673:

What I, and I daresay others in Kaineng want to know, is what is fighting NSP like? They can’t be DR could they? Does their strategy involve things like putting lots of AC and cat coverage on the bridge in the BL eastern keep like ET did? It slowed down our assault considerably, as this eng can attest. Or will we roll over NSP like we have FC and ET in T8? Guess we will find out very soon.

NSP is generally spread between the NA and EU timezones. The general strat kaineng should use is to push forward in the NA then minimize loss in the EU until your asian pop gets in(if you motivate chaster you’ll face roll em). NSP also likes to pressure EB more then the BLs(sometimes to a fault, so you can take advantage of that). Guilds you have to watch out for are [Os] and [Meow] in the objective based department. NSP also has a number of guilds similar to noqq/envy/larp on ferg with the main difference being that the NSP small team gameplay is totally toxic because they wont bother taking anything bigger then a supply camp…and can generally be ignored.

As a server NSP does generally play fair and the randoms are about on par with what you’ve seen so far.

As far as HoD goes, they generally have a very small wvw population that is fairly easy to discourage. Its probably going to be mostly Kain vs NSP next week.
wish y’all look kaineg, luck forward to fighting you again in higher tiers.

Rob.7624:

Match up for next week..

Tier 5
DragonBrand or Maguuma
Borlispass
Devonas rest

Tier 6
Darkhaven
Gates of Madness
AnvilRock

Tier 7
Kaineng
Northern Shiverpeaks
? Mystery ? (Could be Henge or Sorrows its close)

Match up notes:
Borlis pass no longer has a good enough presence in my eyes and will be easily crushed against Maguuma leaving easy points for Mags night crew which will make DR easily outmanned. DR will face a true test next week. Which will most likely in a couple of weeks break apart all the new server transfer guilds into nothing. (Evidence is Borlis pass)

Anvil Rock will put up a good fight against Darkhavens dying server, they will lose though. Gates won’t pose much of a threat.

NSP and Kain will fight head to head with little bother from Henge. Kain will start off strong but will lose to NSP’s weekday night crew and strong Primetime presence.

Kain has a huge Asian base especially since [WM] transfered in full. if [SOS] and [WM] come out to play NSP is looking at a kain night/day crew as big as DRs prime time.

Rinzler.8072:

Calling out AD…….our SOS A-team has been itchin to have a battle with you guys. So far it looks like you are the best 5-man out there, we wanna test our skills! Since we formed our 5man we have had trouble finding ya. You actually inspired me to form my 5-man since i saw your video wiping the floor with SoS, lol.

BSTY. Ide say your prolly 2nd best weve fought, We got a nice 5 on 5 on the ramp down to astralhome 2 days ago. Dunno if thats your A-team or not. We ended up beating you. You started off puttin the hurt on, but then it seems you got flustered and fell apart. We love to fight you guys more often too.

PRO. You guys have alot of decent players, most the time we smoke ya. You should put together a 5 man of your best, i bet you would b e a force to be reckoned with.

PAXA. You guys seem to be learning quick, we had some fun fights with ya. Keep it up!

But yea if any of you 5-mans are on, msg me so we can try to run into one another :-)

[PRO] generally doesn’t run our 5-mans without specific objectives and are usually doing the boring kitten(like refreshing siege) to make sure the server wins first. That being said you may see us rolling around on fridays(after victory has been garenteed or at the white swords ninjaing with golem(s) at your keeps.

Deria.9158:

Hey DR — you’ve got a GASM mesmer exploiting to kill the Tower Lord at Anzalia’s Pass right now.

He’s ruining an otherwise fine match.

screenie it and message both the GASM guild leader and anet

ill head there now and see if i can get a name… try not to kill the pro thief with the commander icon

ok i fraps’d the said person and ill send it to GASM’s leader….o and thanks for killing me kitten.

so what your saying is you can’t cut it in spvp, so you want to disrupt not only wvw but the servers in the weakest tactical position on top of it.

how about this, you get your dueling community together on one server, and go into the mists waiting area and setup matches….then go into an EMPTY spvp maps and fight it out.

i think the biggest travesty is that the yakk slapper title isnt " ultimate yakk slapper"

should have gotten a bunch of thieves together to render them to death and maybe motivate them to fix the issue.

It’s because the skins for lvl 80 badge gear are the same as the highest rank spvp gear, and anet associated cost around this comparison like morons, instead of making unique skins.

Vistal.2906:

Exploit is a exploit. People get sick and tired of Servers who brag and exploit, so i guess we will see tons more coming from servers who are against it. Isnt the saying a EYE for a EYE? Well guess what ? DR has a bunch .. not a few like 2-3 more like 15+ who been exploiting for 2 weeks now. Guess its the other servers turn to exploit right back.

really? troll post k

-4pts: No one on any of the servers brag about exploiting
-2pts: If any of the wvw guilds on DR hear or see exploiting into towers/keeps/etc. we report the incident ourselves, and leave said node without defense so the other server can quickly recap it.
-3pts: accusing 15+ people without screen shots, fraps, character descriptions, or even guild names
-1pts : for the use of the phrase “eye for an eye”

i give this troll post a 0 points out of a possible 10 points. at least come up with accusations that make sense.

osif.8673:

Psychatog.8246:

osif.8673:

Psychatog.8246:

Psychatog.8246:

Npac.3476:

Psychatog.8246:

Jscull.2514:

How do any of you guys telling us that Zergs are just as important as a 5 man justify when our 5 man gets 3x the “Zergs” kills every night? Ur answer going to be because you take keeps an occupy attention?

Well take 5-8 camps kill 20 dolyaks 5 sentrys, ninja a keep on the opposite side of the map and kill 30-50 players while you stand with 20 people and fight over one keep for an hour…thanks for all your serious support.

want a cookie

my [pro] 5 man has successfully taken 3 garrys, 6 hills, 4 bays, 3 towers, countless camps and yaks, multiple clutch defenses, and wiped a [PAXA] 5 man.

we have seen your group out and we typically go around it because your in a pointless spot like ruins(i mean seriously atleast set up siege or something in a camp to make it look like your doing something useful).

also im willing to bet those 20 people you mentioned managed to get FARRRRRRRRRR more then 50 kills

Hey what class are you? We’ll give you a fight if that’s what you want

ok! now we’re getting somewhere. grab a keep and ill show up eventually

actually i changed my mind, i just watched you ignore a paper tower with no supplies in lew of camping your own spawn point killing upscaleds….not worth my time.

I’ll kitten penguins all over your giraff.

thats cool ill kitten daggers all over your rangers: nom nom

also on a serious note: video of some fights this week here

usually i do fight to fight videos and i didnt know about the 15min limit youtube has(was lazy this week), so i just picked the visual interesting fights instead of doing win/loss commentary.

Ah yes, very nice evidence of skill. I was lucky enough to get a screenshot of the outcome of our 1v1 before you released (unfortunately my computer isn’t quite good enough to run fraps atm). I’ll admit, you weren’t half bad for a being one of the most underplayed, hardest classes to play as. You were pretty quick on the heart seekers, which was tough to get out of the way of. Anyways, here it is.

-4pts: no man boobs(you could have drew a shirt lazy), pistol spec and no direct hit the forhead, computer can’t run fraps, and yellow comment not a joke about protocol.

+1pts: giving me a big head

7 out of a possible 10 troll pts

sarcasm aside, it has been a pretty fun week.
[Os] your amazing wvwers…..definitely best guild on your server
[WAR] you guys are fun to fight as well….lots of numbers and you don’t give up
and AR randoms are up their as some the best ive seen on any server, including the week i spent in tier 1.

Npac.3476:

Psychatog.8246:

osif.8673:

Psychatog.8246:

Psychatog.8246:

Npac.3476:

Psychatog.8246:

Jscull.2514:

How do any of you guys telling us that Zergs are just as important as a 5 man justify when our 5 man gets 3x the “Zergs” kills every night? Ur answer going to be because you take keeps an occupy attention?

Well take 5-8 camps kill 20 dolyaks 5 sentrys, ninja a keep on the opposite side of the map and kill 30-50 players while you stand with 20 people and fight over one keep for an hour…thanks for all your serious support.

want a cookie

my [pro] 5 man has successfully taken 3 garrys, 6 hills, 4 bays, 3 towers, countless camps and yaks, multiple clutch defenses, and wiped a [PAXA] 5 man.

we have seen your group out and we typically go around it because your in a pointless spot like ruins(i mean seriously atleast set up siege or something in a camp to make it look like your doing something useful).

also im willing to bet those 20 people you mentioned managed to get FARRRRRRRRRR more then 50 kills

Hey what class are you? We’ll give you a fight if that’s what you want

ok! now we’re getting somewhere. grab a keep and ill show up eventually

actually i changed my mind, i just watched you ignore a paper tower with no supplies in lew of camping your own spawn point killing upscaleds….not worth my time.

I’ll kitten penguins all over your giraff.

thats cool ill kitten daggers all over your rangers: nom nom

also on a serious note: video of some fights this week here

usually i do fight to fight videos and i didnt know about the 15min limit youtube has(was lazy this week), so i just picked the visual interesting fights instead of doing win/loss commentary.

So…just to clarify once again. That video shows you (not sure if any of your other guild members) killing 2 of us, me (the thief) and our Mesmer. Now, in order to do this (and I could be wrong), you needed 6 players on the ground, one by the gate, and at least 2 arrow carts shooting us from the walls. Furthermore, this group you had was not all PRO (at least from what I could tell) but rather you participating in a keep Zerg defense…making you “5 man” comment earlier pretty invalid.

Now, obviously there are things I could have got wrong there…but from what I can tell you posted a video of you dropping 2 of us with 5 buddies and 2 arrow carts. ….I fail to see the impressive side of this? Please clarify?

1) i wasn’t trying to impress you i was just responding to a stupid comment by upscaling it with a stupid video.
2) i actually droped 4 of you, theres a ranger off screen and i droped another thief on the other side of the rock. also i only ran over because you were picking on a bunch of randoms to begin with
3) losing to a small amount of random makes your earlier comments about destorying zergs pretty invalid.
4) you never did get the tower thus DR wins by default anyway. if you had actually setup catas you might have had a shot of actually winning…..i honestly feel bad for NSP for having you on their server….you lead several randoms to thier deaths.

osif.8673:

Psychatog.8246:

Psychatog.8246:

Npac.3476:

Psychatog.8246:

Jscull.2514:

How do any of you guys telling us that Zergs are just as important as a 5 man justify when our 5 man gets 3x the “Zergs” kills every night? Ur answer going to be because you take keeps an occupy attention?

Well take 5-8 camps kill 20 dolyaks 5 sentrys, ninja a keep on the opposite side of the map and kill 30-50 players while you stand with 20 people and fight over one keep for an hour…thanks for all your serious support.

want a cookie

my [pro] 5 man has successfully taken 3 garrys, 6 hills, 4 bays, 3 towers, countless camps and yaks, multiple clutch defenses, and wiped a [PAXA] 5 man.

we have seen your group out and we typically go around it because your in a pointless spot like ruins(i mean seriously atleast set up siege or something in a camp to make it look like your doing something useful).

also im willing to bet those 20 people you mentioned managed to get FARRRRRRRRRR more then 50 kills

Hey what class are you? We’ll give you a fight if that’s what you want

ok! now we’re getting somewhere. grab a keep and ill show up eventually

actually i changed my mind, i just watched you ignore a paper tower with no supplies in lew of camping your own spawn point killing upscaleds….not worth my time.

I’ll kitten penguins all over your giraff.

thats cool ill kitten daggers all over your rangers: nom nom

also on a serious note: video of some fights this week here

usually i do fight to fight videos and i didnt know about the 15min limit youtube has(was lazy this week), so i just picked the visual interesting fights instead of doing win/loss commentary.

Psychatog.8246:

Npac.3476:

Psychatog.8246:

Jscull.2514:

How do any of you guys telling us that Zergs are just as important as a 5 man justify when our 5 man gets 3x the “Zergs” kills every night? Ur answer going to be because you take keeps an occupy attention?

Well take 5-8 camps kill 20 dolyaks 5 sentrys, ninja a keep on the opposite side of the map and kill 30-50 players while you stand with 20 people and fight over one keep for an hour…thanks for all your serious support.

want a cookie

my [pro] 5 man has successfully taken 3 garrys, 6 hills, 4 bays, 3 towers, countless camps and yaks, multiple clutch defenses, and wiped a [PAXA] 5 man.

we have seen your group out and we typically go around it because your in a pointless spot like ruins(i mean seriously atleast set up siege or something in a camp to make it look like your doing something useful).

also im willing to bet those 20 people you mentioned managed to get FARRRRRRRRRR more then 50 kills

Hey what class are you? We’ll give you a fight if that’s what you want

ok! now we’re getting somewhere. grab a keep and ill show up eventually

actually i changed my mind, i just watched you ignore a paper tower with no supplies in lew of camping your own spawn point killing upscaleds….not worth my time.

Npac.3476:

Psychatog.8246:

Jscull.2514:

How do any of you guys telling us that Zergs are just as important as a 5 man justify when our 5 man gets 3x the “Zergs” kills every night? Ur answer going to be because you take keeps an occupy attention?

Well take 5-8 camps kill 20 dolyaks 5 sentrys, ninja a keep on the opposite side of the map and kill 30-50 players while you stand with 20 people and fight over one keep for an hour…thanks for all your serious support.

want a cookie

my [pro] 5 man has successfully taken 3 garrys, 6 hills, 4 bays, 3 towers, countless camps and yaks, multiple clutch defenses, and wiped a [PAXA] 5 man.

we have seen your group out and we typically go around it because your in a pointless spot like ruins(i mean seriously atleast set up siege or something in a camp to make it look like your doing something useful).

also im willing to bet those 20 people you mentioned managed to get FARRRRRRRRRR more then 50 kills

Hey what class are you? We’ll give you a fight if that’s what you want

ok! now we’re getting somewhere. grab a keep and ill show up eventually

Jscull.2514:

How do any of you guys telling us that Zergs are just as important as a 5 man justify when our 5 man gets 3x the “Zergs” kills every night? Ur answer going to be because you take keeps an occupy attention?

Well take 5-8 camps kill 20 dolyaks 5 sentrys, ninja a keep on the opposite side of the map and kill 30-50 players while you stand with 20 people and fight over one keep for an hour…thanks for all your serious support.

want a cookie

my [pro] 5 man has successfully taken 3 garrys, 6 hills, 4 bays, 3 towers, countless camps and yaks, multiple clutch defenses, and wiped a [PAXA] 5 man.

we have seen your group out and we typically go around it because your in a pointless spot like ruins(i mean seriously atleast set up siege or something in a camp to make it look like your doing something useful).

also im willing to bet those 20 people you mentioned managed to get FARRRRRRRRRR more then 50 kills

Plok.6145:

Exact;y how many guild transfers has DR gotten? Cause it certainly appears to be a kittenload.

recent guild transfers, nothing huge(although there are currently a number of guilds “looking”)

10 weeks ago… a kitten load and no ones really left.

ive have been seeing a lot more guildless/soloers and have been put into LA overflow more, but that generally only results in a little extra fodder in wvw.

WrathOfGod.4695:

Such a good WvW turnout today. AR you guys made us suffer by going through our supply camps, if you kept it up we would have been massacred. SF hats off to you guys, holding us at your keep for that long is quite an accomplishment. Klovan and Wildcreek were pretty much taken every 20min for 3 hours. Can’t get Aldons, Can’t get Jerrifers, And definately can’t get the keep yet.

DR – we still have alot of work to get done, see when I commanded how I managed to take back ALL of what AR took in about 30min? That’s what we need all the time between us as a WvW server. It’s a shame our group fizzled out when we hit Jerrifers and people didn’t keep moving.

YES MORNINGSTAR IS BACKKKK

-AR/SF gona suffer now.

we’re fighting AR and NSP not SF bro

Kardiamond.6952:

@Oozo

Elitism much?

You are the usual player, that every matchup thread have each week. The player that think that there server individual player skill is so much greater then the ennemies.

If you are running with a premade guild, for sure you’ll win most fights. 50% of WvW population is pug.

Premade vs pug = pug death.

Since Avil Rock have the best tPvP population in the NA servers, I doubt we are really lacking skill.

I think overall everyone is about equal, we have our bads, we have our pros.

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The thing I think DR stand out of the much is the FOTM players. The PRO guild, each time I fight them, they are like 90% made of DD Thief/Shatter Mesmer/Guardian/DDElem. Seems like your roster I mostly made of the FOTM class/build, and man is it annoying lol.

Can’t I fight some necros? engis?

It the fights time I come to this conclusion, as I usually see every class represented.

Am I just unlucky?

actually [PRO] has way more warriors then anything else i think. also it has very little to do with FoTM classes and more to do with the current meta being tanky dps > glass cannon. the only classes we are REALLY lacking are rangers(generally bad in wvw) and engineers(alot of anger over the nade nerf). i personally play both my thief(which is a 0/0/20/20/30 deathblossom spec) and necro bunker/well spec(im the big kitten in the middle that doesn’t die) roughly equally in wvw. Also our smaller squads are made up of thieves,guardians, and elementals because they are highly mobile to devastating effect, which is probably why you notice them more often.

what every one of our opponents have yet to understand is that DR is a wvw server(same for upcoming kaineg aswell…they are going roflstomp GoM when they hit t7). we spec,plan, and dedicate ourselves to this aspect of the game. come reset time DR pve is completely devoid of people. our general population is probably smaller then either of ARs or NSPs(know it true here i haz my scout) but our wvw participation percentage is WAY higher.

as for us being all number, i have more then a few fraps clips showing otherwise that im planning to include in my summary of the week video on thursday(ill also have losses and kitten…i try to remain unbias).

also 2 non DR guilds that ive seen play skillful in wvw are [WOLF] and [PAXA](believe this is right). these 2 seem to be on the ball in wvw. props to you

Nuzt.7894:

ok wtf, DR population is rediculous. So NSP I say yourselves and us AR take it to DR in full force and worry about each other next week.

I do not speak for all of AR but I’m sure theres many that would agree.

sounds good to DR…so we just focus AR and force them down a tier and take care of NSP and GoM next week

Zizanzi.4678:

Psychatog.8246:

Zizanzi.4678:

Khanswrath.1032:

I had a video of me soloing 3 Envy mesmers AND 6 NoQQ at the same time to prove my egaming leet pro skilz, but my wife deleted it.

Riggggghhhhttt (rolls eyes). At least it was good for a laugh ;-p

Stylii Elementalist (Staff)
(NoQQ) Leader

Can’t wait for the AoE nerfs since we ALL know Staff Elms are so powerful

i dunno styl, last week me and my guardian buddy 2v12ish a group of 50/50 noqq/larp, and all the noqq died before the larp d/d eles managed to drop us. you guys don’t do as well when your on the other side of the ambush.

Interesting since all of LARP has been on Ehmry Bay with Me for we’ll over a week. Nice try and good attempt at a Troll. CYA.

Stylii
(NoQQ)

sorry for the late response worked 38 hours in the last 2 days but to address your response. Notice i used the words last week, the fight in question was sunday before DR moved up when FC and KAIN were pushing hard on the weekend after the reset. Your always trying to give advice to other after you beat them, im just returning the favor. If you wanna say it didn’t happen fine, but Im 100% honest when i talk about fights. Look on page one of this week(i posted vids of DR losses, and withheld vids of hod/sf zergs droping to 1-3 DR players) if you want proof that im honest.